Talk:History of trams

Merge Histories

Due to the complexities the history of Trams Tramways and Light Rail being stretched over 3 pages it was necessary to merge the three sections into a single page which enables the article to flow better. If you have any problems with this please let me know. L blue l 01:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

A link has been place to all sections which where used in this article and with no objections the other sections will be removed or summarized to reflect the change. L blue l 01:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

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There is also a small line operated on Main Street at DisneyWorld, outside of Orlando Florida. A small horse-drawn service operates every 40 minutes at Victor Harbour, South Australia, daily with 20 minute services during tourist seasons. This service runs between the mainland and Granite Island across a causeway.[1]

Many original Tram and Streetcar systems were decommissioned in the 1950s and onward as the popularity of the automobile increased. Britain abandoned its last Tram system except Blackpool by 1962. Although some traditional trolley or tram systems still exist to this day, the term "light rail" has come to mean a different type of rail system. Modern light rail technology has primarily German origins, since an attempt by Boeing Vertol to introduce a new American light rail vehicle was a technical failure. After World War II, the Germans retained their streetcar networks and evolved them into model light rail systems (stadtbahnen). Except for Hamburg, all large and most medium-sized German cities maintain light rail networks.

Later, cable cars were attached to a moving cable underneath the road. The cable would be pulled by a steam engine at a powerhouse. The Monongahela and Duquesne Inclines in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA, have some of the appearance of trams, but are more accurately funiculars.

Golden Age

Trams experienced a rapid expansion at the start of the 20th century until the period between the two world wars. There was a rapid increase in the number of lines and increase in the number of riders: indeed, it became the primary mode of urban transportation. Horse-drawn transport virtually disappeared in all European, American and Indian cities by 1910. Buses were still in a development phase at this time, gaining in mechanical reliability, but remaining behind compared to the benefits offered by trams. Even in the United States, the automobile was still reserved mostly for the well-to-do prior to World War I. A great number of these were destroyed in the Great American Streetcar Scandal. L blue l 23:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

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Trolley Car

• Agree to have Trolley car merged in History of Trams. It makes good sense to do so. ***Adam*** 08:57, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I am sorry i made a mess with this article Trolley Car but was hoping to make an article like Horsecar but due to lack of time i was unable to finish. In its current state i agree the article should be merged. L blue l (talk) 22:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

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Unverified statement — footnote doesn’t provide any documentation

Text states: >>By 1889, 110 electric railways incorporating Sprague's equipment had been begun or planned on several continents.(4)<< Footnote 4 leads to a site that does not mention Sprague trams — it’s a site for the German company Siemens. Seems to me highly unlikely that “by 1889” — i.e. within less than a year of the opening of the revolutionary Richmond Va electric tram system — 110 similar systems were underway or planned — unless the word “planned” is employed with a very fuzzy meaning. Kits2 (talk) 23:37, 5 May 2023 (UTC)