Talk:Hasbro Interactive

Regarding the merge

@LTPHarry @oknazevad regarding the merge. I've recently been looking at ways to clean up and make Atari-related articles easier to understand. As part of all this, I've come to the conclusion that the title of the new merged article, Atari Interactive, is something that shouldn't be. I recently made a post to try and get attention to the Atari confusion: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#About Atari

I'm not contesting/disagreeing with the merge. LTPHarry was right that the 'other' Interactive in the old article is unrelated to Hasbro/Infogrames's, and oknazevad, you're 100% correct in saying that a subsidiary company holding a trademark is all corporate stuff that doesn't warrant an article. But what I do think is that the page title needs to be Hasbro Interactive, not Atari Interactive, because

• The article is almost entirely about Hasbro Interactive, a video game company of note
• Atari Interactive is, like oknazevad mentioned, nothing but an entity that holds the brand and trademark for the group. See page 11 of their organization chart as primary evidence.
• Since Atari's history can already be confusing enough with so many Atari articles here, we really shouldn't make it worse by having the title of this "Atari Interactive", as part of my goal to simplify and make things straightforward.

I would have the title as Hasbro with of course a mention in the history how its corporate changes led to it briefly branded under Infogrames before it became Atari and a subsidiary holding the trademark licensed to the rest of the Atari group (Atari SA).

Based on these, would you agree that Hasbro Interactive is the better title? Sceeegt (talk) 16:17, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I was actually thinking that the Atari, Inc. page as a whole could be renamed back to GT Interactive, considering I moved all the information about that to the Atari SA page a while ago so there isn’t much else to say. In all honesty, the Atari page should be named “Atari (Brand)” because a lot of pages of games published under the current company direct to the brand page. But who knows. Luigitehplumber (talk) 01:25, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't know what exactly the content of what you moved, but Atari SA is a holding company with various properties, especially now with acquisitions of other devs and the return of the Infogrames brand - so the two articles shouldn't be mixed. Atari SA should be the article about the group and its corporate stuff, similar to Bandai Namco Holdings for example and how it clearly differs from Bandai Namco Entertainment - in this case Atari SA and Atari Inc. Atari Inc. is an active publisher and it definitely must remain, but I actually intend to improve it by adding more and newer content about its games and activities, and sourcing and structuring it properly.

I think the best case scenario is moving some of the game-related content (not corporate) from Atari SA to Atari Inc., and it would be improved into a proper article like what a standard game publisher article is like. That plus getting Atari Interactive renamed to Hasbro Interactive. Though I don't object to splitting GT Interactive away if you think that's best, in fact I may support that too. Sceeegt (talk) 02:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Honestly, I don’t mind what goes on. I could help with some more rewriting on the pages if you want. Luigitehplumber (talk) 10:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

I object to moving the Atari Interactive article to Hasbro Interactive. The decision the last time this was discussed was definitive about using the Atari name. I'd also like to point out that this discussion should be at Talk:Atari Interactive, not here, as that is the article's current title and talk page. Take this discussion there, not the talk page of a redirect. oknazevad (talk) 06:08, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Discussion is now at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#About Atari. Sceeegt (talk) 12:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC)