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Wildlife Section
editWhy is there a section "devoted" to a single type of bird, that's not even the same bird mentioned earlier in the article as the national bird? Ron Schnell 16:09, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
Boosterism
editYesterday, I made three edits to try to put related information together and to pare down some of the boosterism in the text, such as citation-less gushing about the prowess of the government in Economy, including the government-centric assertion that "While the adjustment to VAT has been difficult, it may improve day-to-day life because of the significant additional funds the government will have available for public spending." These edits were swept away without comment by @Mr. James Dimsey:, and restored by @BilCat:, whose talk page suggests that we react on article talk pages such as this.
Mr. Dimsey's edit seems to be the latest of many attempts to install a black-and-white collage showing the lowering of the Union Jack and hoisting of the flag of Guyana. BilCat commented via revert summary (14-Dec) that there is "not enough room in article". This is rectified by controlling the picture width, but BilCat made the earlier comment that the picture is not very good, a problem made worse if it were shrunk to fit. Mr. Dimsey stated (7-Dec) that "this picture is important because it documents the independence of Guyana." I don't agree that it is important; the independence of Guyana is not questioned. A small, full-color photo of the national flag flying over a government building would be much better. Tirelessly trying to plant the same photo into the article is edit-warring.
(I have no interest in Guyana beyond a small investment in the offshore oil exploration. I was checking this article for news on the no-confidence vote in Parliament when I saw it needed editing.) Spike-from-NH (talk) 15:16, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Parliamentary with an executive president or presidential?
editPresently this article says that Guyana is a presidential republic, but I have found two credible sources that suggest this may not be true, that is may in fact be a parliamentary system with an executive presidency, namely:
1. Allard, P (2016). "Government social advertising and ethno-politics in a small, ethnically diverse nation" (PDF). ResearchGate. p. 67. Retrieved 17 April 2019. Guyana is a parliamentary republic with an executive president
2. Section 106 of the constitution, subsection 6:
The Cabinet including the President shall resign if the Government is defeated by the vote of a majority of all the elected members of the National Assembly on a vote of confidence.
Parliamentary systems with an executive presidency are set up so that the president can be removed by a vote of no confidence, which is precisely what this arrangement sounds like. Although, I have read section 91 of the constitution and that makes it sound like the president is directly elected, which makes Guyana's system a hybrid of sorts between a parliamentary system with an executive presidency and a presidential system. Fuse809 (contribs · email · talk · uploads) 09:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Agree with you and fixed it - LionCountry25 (talk) 10:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
A question related to grammar
editThis represents an increase of 47.3% or annual growth of 3.5%.
Shouldn't it be "an annual growth"?--Adûnâi (talk) 20:24, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Graphical depiction of Guyana's product exports in 28 colour-coded categories
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Should this media be used instead?
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This is what is currently used
(Flagrant hysterical curious (talk) 23:30, 19 November 2019 (UTC))
Above & active page export proportion graphics are seriously outdated / misrepresentative. Guyana Exports 2021 --88.110.157.91 (talk) 11:15, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Repetition in introduction
editThere is a lot of repetition in the introduction, particularly between the 1st and first paragrapgh, for example, about English being the official language and CARICOM. 194.28.124.53 (talk) 22:51, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Government system
editThe infobox says Guyana is a Unitary presidential constitutional socialist republic but under it, I see a president and prime minister. The section Government says the president is head of state and head of government. This doesn't really make sense. Guyana must be a parliamentary republic or semi presidential. Lugrasio (talk) 15:52, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Spelling
editWhat was behind the decision to change the spelling from Guiana to Guyana post-independence? Couldn't find anything on google, if someone can find the rationale and/or person behind the change it would good to include in the article. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 02:49, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
The 'Organisation of American States' hyperlink should be moved
editIn my opinion, the 'Organisation of American States' hyperlink should be moved to the 'See also' section of the article as in my opinion it looks strange having a hyperlink on a sub-heading. Xboxsponge15 (talk) 08:45, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Mistake
editPopulation density should be way lower then 3000 persons per km^2. It is a mistake!! Please fix it — Preceding unsigned comment added by יעוז (talk • contribs) 20:46, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Good catch. The decimal point was changed to a comma by User:SpaceCowboy1207 in this edit while they were updating other numbers. I assume it was an inadvertent mistake, or someone used to decimal commas, but whatever the case, I've reverted the changes. It might be a good idea to check all of the numbers changed by the user, just in case. BilCat (talk) 21:17, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Two history sections
editCurrently, the history subsection of the economy section is much longer and better cited than the history section for the entire country. Moreover, much of history is economic anyway. I propose that we fold the economic history into the broader history. Mgnbar (talk) 12:40, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: Black American Music 209
editThis article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 October 2022 and 15 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Peer reviewers: CHELSIAC.
— Assignment last updated by CHELSIAC (talk) 00:39, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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Disputed Areas Not marked correctly
editDear Wikipedia, Why are the disputed areas of Guyana NOT marked correctly? i mean on the Orthographic Locator map. Guyana has 2 disputed areas, with Venezuela and Suriname, these areas are not marked on the map of Guyana, and in the case of Suriname these disputed areas are left out completely. Other Countried like India have disputed areas, but there they are marked in a lighter color. i ask that the same be done for Surname/Venezuela/Guyana SurinameCentral (talk) 21:48, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- The map of Guyana in South America is really too small for for that. You' need to get a consensus first before adding it back, as you've been reverted already. BilCat (talk) 03:45, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Dear SurinameCentral Why are you creating so many maps that show regions of French Guiana (France) and Guyana as fully incorporated in Suriname? Before you make further edits, please first correct all of your uploaded maps to ensure internationally recognized borders are clearly indicated and separate from claimed territories. You need to correct these issues, before creating problems in other pages! 142.20.16.6 (talk) 05:37, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Disputed areas must be marked accordingly. There are disputed areas between Venezuela-Guyana-Suriname-French Guiana, and none of the articles/maps here show them marked accordingly. why are you so Biased? Go to Google maps and see how they show this region. if an area is disputed it cannot be shown normally on the map of Guyana and left out completely from the map of Suriname. either show it there too, or remove it from the map of Guyana as well. because we are so "transparent" here, why are those disputed areas not marked even on the maps of Guyana ??? SurinameCentral (talk) 12:09, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Because as with the India map, controlled territories are included in dark green. CMD (talk) 14:23, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- This discussion is my about the undisputed territory, it's about disputed areas (light green), go check how google maps, Esri Maps display these borders. Dashed lines showing both country's claims. That's something that can ve considered neutral. Not these biased maps here where everyone seems to be making excuses to justify them. It's nothing close to neutral and transparent. SurinameCentral (talk) 09:13, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- As you can see on the India map you raised, File:India (orthographic projection).svg, territory merely being disputed does not mean it is coloured differently. CMD (talk) 12:26, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- This discussion is my about the undisputed territory, it's about disputed areas (light green), go check how google maps, Esri Maps display these borders. Dashed lines showing both country's claims. That's something that can ve considered neutral. Not these biased maps here where everyone seems to be making excuses to justify them. It's nothing close to neutral and transparent. SurinameCentral (talk) 09:13, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Time Zone
editTimeanddate.com shows that on 1 Mar 1915, Georgetown, British Guiana adopted a time zone setting it 3 hours 45 minutes behind GMT. In 1975, it changed to 3 hours behind, and in 1991, it changed to four hours behind. Is timeanddate.com not considered a suitable source of information? Re Jan 4 2023 revision and reversion. GBC (talk) 21:59, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- I also have early 1970s World Almanac editions which show Guyana's unusual time zone offset. GBC (talk) 22:04, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- I removed your additions in January, and have removed them again, for the same reasons. First, just naming a website, https://www.timeanddate.com/ in your edit summary, especially without giving the specific page you got the information, is inadequate. You have to actually cite the information in the article when you add it. Second, the website doesn't appear to be a reliable source per WP:RS. I could be wrong, but it is up to the contributor (you) to show that the sources you cite are reliable when challenged. The 1970s World Almanacs are most likely reliable, but of course couldn't verify anything. after they were published, such as in the 1990s. These would still need to be cited in the article. BilCat (talk) 22:14, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- "The 1970s World Almanacs are most likely reliable, but of course couldn't verify anything. after they were published, such as in the 1990s." I am not understanding what you're getting at with this. "These would need to be cited in the article" - cited how? Upload an image of a map from the almanac? timeanddate.com says it, old World Almanacs show it, what more is needed? Does anyone have evidence that Guyana never had an unusual offset? This opposition to the information is frustrating to me and bespeaks stubbornness and officiousness and I am unwilling to make further efforts as it is evident that nothing will be good enough, not even a letter from the President of Guyana! GBC (talk) 13:20, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- I suggest that you read Wikipedia:Citing sources. BilCat (talk) 17:46, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- "The 1970s World Almanacs are most likely reliable, but of course couldn't verify anything. after they were published, such as in the 1990s." I am not understanding what you're getting at with this. "These would need to be cited in the article" - cited how? Upload an image of a map from the almanac? timeanddate.com says it, old World Almanacs show it, what more is needed? Does anyone have evidence that Guyana never had an unusual offset? This opposition to the information is frustrating to me and bespeaks stubbornness and officiousness and I am unwilling to make further efforts as it is evident that nothing will be good enough, not even a letter from the President of Guyana! GBC (talk) 13:20, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- I removed your additions in January, and have removed them again, for the same reasons. First, just naming a website, https://www.timeanddate.com/ in your edit summary, especially without giving the specific page you got the information, is inadequate. You have to actually cite the information in the article when you add it. Second, the website doesn't appear to be a reliable source per WP:RS. I could be wrong, but it is up to the contributor (you) to show that the sources you cite are reliable when challenged. The 1970s World Almanacs are most likely reliable, but of course couldn't verify anything. after they were published, such as in the 1990s. These would still need to be cited in the article. BilCat (talk) 22:14, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
Socialism in Guyana
edit1. The State in transition to socialism Guyana is an indivisible, secular, democratic sovereign state in the course of transition from capitalism to socialism and shall be known as the Co-operative Republic of Guyana. 28. Youth Every young person has the right to ideological, social, cultural and vocational development and to the opportunity for responsible participation in the development of the socialist order of society. Gorgonopsi (talk) 12:27, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- 35. National culture
- The State honours and respects the diverse cultural strains which enrich the society and will seek constantly to promote national appreciation of them at all levels and to develop out of them a socialist national culture for Guyana.
- 71. Local Government
- Local Government is a vital aspect of socialist democracy and shall be organised so as to involve as many people as possible in the task of managing and developing the communities in which they live.
- For this purpose Parliament shall provide for the institution of a country-wide system of local government through the establishment of organs of local democratic power as an integral part of the political organisation of the State. Gorgonopsi (talk) 12:28, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
are all Guyanese articles supposed to be written in British English?
editthats the question Iljhgtn (talk) 17:32, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Typo?
editUSD 100 000 as GDP per capita appears to be a mistake? The country information for Guyana at imf.org states a GDP per capita of USD 26 590 in April 2024, which is about what you'd expect by dividing the GDP by the number of inhabitants. 2001:2043:BA53:B00:8E81:C39B:987A:5091 (talk) 16:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)