Talk:François Achille Bazaine

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Article needs to be translated into English

... and not by a machine, this time.... 31.54.35.24 (talk) 00:59, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Continuity?

His father abandoned his family just prior to Bazaines birth, leaving it without financial support. He failed the entrance examination to the École Polytechnique.

— Bit of a jump from birth to engineering school. Any word on what happened in between? Sca (talk) 18:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Serious POV problems

The article lionizes Bazaine, which is by no means the unanimous verdict of history. "There was practically no chance of success. The question was one of extricating the army and the government from a disastrous adventure, and Bazaine's solution of it was to bring back his army to Metz"??? GMAFB. Geoffrey Wawro's well-received history of the Franco-Prussian War will not support this conclusion -- Bazaine repeatedly did his best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

The problem appears to be a definite bias in the Britannica author -- the article doesn't draw on more recent sources.

I'll do a rewrite myself in a few days if need be, but wanted to go ahead and point out this problem & tag the article. --Andersonblog (talk) 01:16, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

"...who win every battle except the last"

This statement is misleading since it seems to imply that he did in fact win all but one battle. In fact, he was defeated at the Battles of Gravelotte, Mars-la-Tour and failed to make a breakout from the Siege of Metz. So I would argue for changing this sentence. -- LightSpectra (talk) 23:58, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

the Mexican wife

Just what was the name of the mexican wife of Bazaine? In the article it seems as if he married two different women. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.198.216.242 (talk) 09:02, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

According to the current version of the "François Achille Bazaine" Wikipedia page, his first wife was called "Maria Juaria Gregorio Tormo de la Soledad", who he married on 12 June 1852. There is not a lot of mention about François Achille Bazaine's first wife, who died whilst François Achille Bazaine was in Mexico. His second wife appears to have been callsed "Maria-Josefa Pedraza de la Peña y Barragán", who he married on 28 May 1865, who was a much younger and richer woman, who was actually from Mexico. SMargan (talk) 04:39, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

== Problem with the "trial" section That section repeats itself (e.g., the Hugo quote etc.) That should be cleaned up.

Surname pronunciation

It would be helpful if someone familiar with French pronunciation would add an International Phonetic Alphabet key explaning how to pronounce Bazaine. Carguychris (talk) 14:14, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Run on and on and on

Surely needs to be broken up into several sentences; try reading out loud with one breath:

“This book also recorded his defence against the 1873 accusation of treason, it was not directed to a vindication of Bazaine's conduct during the Franco-German War, but instead a sort of history of that disastrous campaign, with a considerable portion of the book devoted to setting forth how the catastrophes of 1870 might have been prevented, or at least diminished, providing facsimiles of official documents, dispatches, and letters, including a report addressed by the Emperor Napoleon in captivity at Wilhelmshohe and a communication to Empress Engénie during the events of Metz, and maps to elucidate the campaign.” 216.212.111.111 (talk) 13:41, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Unlikely cliff height

“ climbed down the 300 foot cliffs to a boat”

wow. That is a lot of rope and straps. Also, the fort is only 26 meters above sea level, according to https://www.cheminsdememoire.gouv.fr/en/royal-fort-royal-island-sainte-marguerite 216.212.111.111 (talk) 14:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)