Talk:Erin Fitzgerald
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Sources
editHey there. I'm thinking about expanding the article to meet the standards of WP:RS as well as WP:BLP. As this is a BLP, all unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material should be removed per the policy on verifiability. So far, there has been one source. I will go ahead and try to search for some sources. Thoughts or objections? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 05:35, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
No discussion is taking place, so I am being bold and adding some of them. Please respect the WP:BLP and WP:V policies. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:53, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
- Erin recently tweeted that her roles were deleted from her page, https://twitter.com/ErinFitzgerald/status/697315740550975488 which prompted a bunch of IP and relatively new editors to restore unsourced material. Please use cite video game or cite episode when referencing credits of video games and cartoons for Erin Fitzgerald. Do not use your own hearing or voice matching videos as that is original research. And do not use IMDb as a reference WP:IMDB/RS. You cannot use her own website credits page after she references Wikipedia itself [1] since that is WP:CIRCULAR. You can use her biography since that is still her writeup. [2] This is her last known credits list that doesn't reference Wikipedia. [3] You can also use her tweets announcing her own roles. There are only about 6 roles that have not been confirmed. Her credits list have not been massively wiped despite what Erin's tweet said. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:11, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- Here's her linkedin, you can use that too: [4] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:42, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Conflict of interest/promotional editing
editI just tagged the article with regard to COI, advertisement, and sourcing. This has clearly been under heavy pressure from people seeking to promote Fitzgerald. I will see what I can do to get the IP editor to stop, by talking with them. We will see how that goes. Jytdog (talk) 04:39, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Turned out not to be COI, but plain old fan-based advocacy. Hopefully things will be better here, going forward. Jytdog (talk) 06:54, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
Filmography
editPer WP:NOT, which is a policy and pillar of Wikipedia, this is an encyclopedia, meant to provide enduring "accepted knowledge". Wikipedia articles aren't personal websites for promotion, nor are they fansites. So I cut the filmography from the article in this dif and I am moving this exhaustive table here for discussion. This needs to be dramatically pared back, or put in some kind of WP:LIST article. Also, twitter and linkedin are not acceptable sources. Jytdog (talk) 04:58, 25 February 2016 (UTC) (see below, I moved it Jytdog (talk) 06:51, 25 February 2016 (UTC))
- Note - that list took up this whole page and made it unwieldy, so I moved it here: User:CartoonCara/sandbox. Jytdog (talk) 06:50, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Per discussion at COIN and here, I have restored the filmography which allows for primary sources, but have condensed the roles in Monster High and Ever After High back to one entry each. I have also removed the non-Wikipedia-notable movies and television shows. If someone needs that information they can go to her website, but I agree it would be cruft for here. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:38, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
apparently bloated, under-sourced bio
editThis needs to be weeded down, I think and the eye-hurting forest of WP:OVERLINKing toned down. I will leave that for more experienced to weed out..
- Biography
Fitzgerald was born in Victoria, British Columbia and graduated from University of Victoria's with a Bachelor of Fine Arts, Acting specialization. She moved to Vancouver and worked with local theater groups doing plays. She began working in television and film as well. Her voice over career began with loops groups in Vancouver for shows such as The Outer Limits, She worked in looping for six years.[1]
Her first VO animated role was May Kanker in the long-running Cartoon Network series Ed, Edd n Eddy.[1] She would voice May as well as Nazz. She had roles in other cartoons such as Sabrina: The Animated Series, Fat Dog Mendoza, Dragon Tales and Rainbow Fish. She moved to Los Angeles in 2000.
Fitzgerald continues to work as a voice actress on cartoons. In Mattel's Playground Productions animated series Monster High she is the original voice artist to play the roles of Abbey Bominable, Spectra Vondergeist, Rochelle Goyle. She also voices the lead character Raven Queen and character C.A. Cupid in the Playground Production series Ever After High.[2]: 64–65 In Wild Grinders, she voices Stubford, Denise and Patti. Erin plays Batricia in English version of The Jungle Bunch, which won an International Emmy award. She was also the announcer of Brainsurge for two seasons on Nickelodeon; the series was nominated for an Emmy.[3] In anime, she got involved in popular shows Naruto Shippuden, Bleach, and the Viz dub of Sailor Moon, and in more recent shows, she has voiced in Knights of Sidonia and K.
Fitzgerald has voiced in a number of video games, including World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor, "Adventure Time: The Secret of the Nameless Kingdom", "Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate", Bravely Default, Danganronpa, and League of Legends. She voiced Parasoul in Skullgirls which was nominated for an Annie Award for best video game, and she voiced lead female character Chie Satonaka in the Persona 4 series, of which Persona 4 Arena won several video game awards.[3]
On stage, Fitzgerald has worked with the comedy troupe "Fake Radio", performing 1940s radio plays and shows live at the Steve Allen Theater Hollywood, in authentic costumes.[4]
References
- ^ a b "Bio". Erin Fitzgerald Official Website. Retrieved January 11, 2016.
"Work Bio - Erin Fitzgerald". Erin Fitzgerald. Archived from the original on February 15, 2015. Retrieved February 10, 2016. - ^ Terrace, Vincent (2015). Internet Drama and Mystery Television Series, 1996–2014. McFarland. ISBN 9780786495818.
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: CS1 maint: ref duplicates default (link) - ^ a b "Erin Fitzgerald". AnimeCons.com. Retrieved January 11, 2016.
- ^ "The Cast". Fake Radio. Retrieved January 11, 2016.
--Jytdog (talk) 05:33, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Well the first two paragraphs are fine as they are sourced to her bio and give decent amounts of verifiable and relatively uncontested information. The second half is a rehash of the filmography, which doesn't add much insight as to her career. It needs to be rewritten to highlight her major roles such as with Ed Edd n Eddy and the utility voice for Sabrina and other shows that enjoyed long runs. After the filmography has years assigned to it, it can be made clear what are her notable and most important roles, and then that can be transferred over to the introduction paragraph. But yeah, finding secondary sources and reviews is key for this section. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 07:23, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking in here. I just wanted to wait til one of you came and started talking. I am going to unwatch this - this is not my field and you all can decide way better than me what is encyclopedic in this topic. Good luck, and feel free to ping me if you have trouble in with advocacy or COI in the future. Jytdog (talk) 07:27, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- I have gone ahead and restored the first half. The article still needs lots of work but hopefully those who fill in on the bio can provide the secondary sources to make it as quality as other voice actor articles as with Nancy Cartwright. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:40, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
ELs
editDoes everybody believe that all of these should stay? I left her personal website there
- Official deviantART
- Erin Fitzgerald convention appearances on AnimeCons.com
- Erin Fitzgerald at Anime News Network's encyclopedia
- Erin Fitzgerald at IMDb
- Jytdog (talk) 05:35, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- IMDb should be kept as a standard element of screen performer articles. DeviantART should go under the general category of one official page for each subject; subject can link to it from their official site. I withhold comment on the rest. --Nat Gertler (talk) 06:33, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Deviant ART is not needed. Official website covers all the big ones like twitter, facebook, Instagram and so forth. AnimeCons and ANN are standard EL's for English VAs who voice in anime shows and attend a lot of anime conventions. As she has equal or more work in animation and video games, you could remove those in favor of the supposedly comprehensive IMDb listing. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 07:14, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
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