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Requested move 11 May 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ❯❯❯ Raydann^(Talk) 05:33, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

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SUNY Empire State University → Empire State University – I do not believe the current title is a commonly-used name for this university. There was a recent name change when the university transitioned from college status to university status, but I am pretty confident that, at the very least, Empire State University without the "SUNY" in front is more commonly used, along with appearing to be the form the university itself uses. Other possible titles include the former name of "Empire State College", "SUNY Empire", and "SUNY Empire State College". The lead in both google hits and google news hits appears to go to the title I've proposed the move to, however, in "Empire State University". Skarmory (talk • contribs) 01:11, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

•Oppose Weak Support (see reasoning in comments below) - if it’s in the SUNY system then I do not see any reason to switch it. 4theloveofallthings (talk) 12:17, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

See University at Buffalo and Binghamton University. If the common name does not include SUNY, the article's name shouldn't either.

I wouldn't be opposed to moving to "SUNY Empire", however, and that does keep SUNY in the article title – it's a form that appears to be used by the university itself in some cases (it's mentioned multiple on the university's page linked above). I just don't think "SUNY Empire State University" is the right title, even among SUNY names. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 18:52, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

I would like to switch my Oppose to a Weak Support. You do prove a very good point with the other universities. Personally, I think they should all include “SUNY” — but as this is unlikely to change, for the sake of logic, I definitely am going to go ahead and take back my opposition of the suggested move. 4theloveofallthings (talk) 19:16, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

• Comment For clarification, here's the university's official brand guidelines on the name, which state to use "Empire State University" upon first mention and "SUNY Empire" from there on. (I should've checked this sooner, sorry.) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 19:10, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
• Support per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:OFFICIALNAME. Does appear to be the common name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

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Requested move 22 December 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved per WP:SNOW, considered in the context of the 100+ RMs proposed at once by this user. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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Empire State University → SUNY Empire – WP:COMMONNAME. Theparties (talk) 14:43, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. The full name provides a WP:TITLECON consistent naming convention across all articles on universities and colleges in the United States. Many reliable sources like Forbes and US News and World Report still use the full name. The OP has also made numerous individual RMs on this same issue like this one, which may violate WP:ACROTITLE or use a shorter common name that is rarely used outside a sports/athletic context. Better to stick to the status quo. Zzyzx11 (talk) 14:45, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose as unnecessary, unwise, and unhelpful for readers. ElKevbo (talk) 15:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, per the comments of Zzyzx11. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 16:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Agree with ElKevbo including being unnecessary and unhelpful to readers, plus it is contrary to protocol for college and university article titles. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 01:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, as "Empire State University" is the WP:COMMONNAME. Additionally, the target title does not exist, proving that "SUNY Empire" is not the COMMONNAME, and that this is an unnecessary move for the sake of moving. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:38, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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