Talk:Decan (astrology)
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- The result of this discussion was page merged D O N D E groovily Talk to me 03:24, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
These two articles seem to describe the same concept. If this is true, they should be merged. If this is not true, they should at least be linked to eachother through hatnotes. Neelix (talk) 18:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- The article aren't exactly compatible. This one claims that the decans originated from the "Chaldaeans" i.e. general Mesopotamians from Babylon, the other one claims that the decans originated from the ancient Egypt. I believe the other one is true, and that someone have filled this one with speculative assumptions or untrue allegations from some astrologer source out there. MUL.APIN gives at most 33 constellations in the northern (?) path of Enlil, but the Dendera zodiac gives 37 constellations or star stations (See [1]). The Egyptian calendar contained 36 week of 10 days each and exactly 5 intercalary days each year. Said: Rursus (☻) 15:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- This article is duplicate of the better Decans article. Someone is trying to connect the Decans material, describing Egyptian decans to later Renaissance magic material, such as Henry Cornelius Agrippa. Yes it should be merged. If there is anything useful in it, I'll add it to the other article, but unless someone has a reason not to, I'm going to do it in the next few days. Ok? NaySay (talk) 17:40, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- This article speaks qualified rubbish, such as
- In order to give fuller interpretation to the Zodiac Signs, ancient astrologers subdivided each Sign
- which is opposite of true. Truth is that Egyptian star observers (priests and their assistants?) started with 36 decans, and that Babylonian magi or astrologers reduced some 15-17 zodiacal constellations to 12 in the early antiquity (the hellenic period). The superposition of 36 decans upon 12 zodiacal signs is undated, but might have occurred either in the antiquity or more probably in about the 18th century, when egyptian hieroglyphs were beginning to become decoded. Regarding a merger, wouldn't it be better to delete this article as nonsential WP:OR? ... said: Rursus (mbork³) 07:20, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- This article speaks qualified rubbish, such as
- And looking up the source Egypt, land of eternity site, the egyptian decans numbered up to 37. ... said: Rursus (mbork³) 07:26, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Nothing was actually merged to Decans on 6 September 2011. Only the merge template was removed. It's not clear to me that Decan (astrology) is a content fork, so I've restored it. Either actually merge the content, or put this up for deletion. – wbm1058 (talk) 16:28, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
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editCompare this link to this one:
| Decan | ib205.tripod.com | Paul Christian |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Tepa-Kenmut | Asiccan |
| 2 | Kenmut | Senacher |
| 3 | Kher-Khept-Kenmut | Acentacer |
| 4 | Ha-tchat | Asicath |
| 5 | Pehui-Tchat | Viroaso |
| 6 | Themat-hert | Aharph |
| 7 | Themat-Khert | Thesogar |
| 8 | Ustha | Verasua |
| 9 | Bekatha | Thepisatosoa |
| 10 | Tepa-Khentet | Sothis |
| 11 | Khentet-hert | Sith |
| 12 | Khentet-khert | Thuimis |
| 13 | Themes-en-Khentet | Aphruimis |
| 14 | Sapt-Khennu | Sithacer |
| 15 | Her-ab-uaa | Phuonisi |
| 16 | Shesmu | Thumis |
| 17 | Kenmu | Thopithus |
| 18 | Tepa-Semt | Aphuth |
| 19 | Tepa-Semt | Semeuth |
| 20 | Sert | Aterechinis |
| 21 | Sasa-sert | Arpien |
| 22 | Kher-khept-sert | Senthacer |
| 23 | Khukhu | Thepiseuth |
| 24 | Baba | Sencmer |
| 25 | Khent-heru | Eregbuo |
| 26 | Her-ab-khentu | Sagen |
| 27 | Khent-kheru | Chenen |
| 28 | Qet | Themeso |
| 29 | Sasaqet | Epima |
| 30 | Art | Homoth |
| 31 | Khau | Oroasoer |
| 32 | Remen-heru-an-Sah | Astiro |
| 33 | Mestcher-Sah | Thepisathras |
| 34 | Remen-kher-Sah | Archathapias |
| 35 | A-Sah | Thopibui |
| 36 | Sah | Athembui |
| 37 | Septet | -- |
The one pointing to Paul Christian's "The History and Practice of Magic" seems to be desinformational, I would wager Christian's book lies like horses trot (Swedish telltale). Said: Rursus (☻) 16:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- So, ... I'll remove that link about magic stuff – it's perfectly irrelevant for decans. Said: Rursus (☻) 16:12, 12 September 2008 (UTC)