Talk:Crenshaw, Los Angeles
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editSince the Hahns actually lived in Morningside Park, which is south of the Baldwin Hills adjacent to the city of Inglewood, the reference to them here should perhaps be removed. --Slightlyslack 06:20, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- The James Hahn article says:
- Hahn lives in the Los Angeles community of San Pedro; he was formerly married to Monica Hahn.
- Are all of those assertions correct? Is Morningside Park in San Pedro? Cheers, -Willmcw 06:36, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
- James Hahn moved to San Pedro when he got married. Morningside Park is in South Central, adjacent to Inglewood, and is where Kenneth Hahn lived essentially his entire life. I'm not sure if Pedro was even in Kenny Hahn's old supervisoral district. I found this out from the biographical sketch of Hahn that the LAT published a week before the runoff.--Slightlyslack 19:14, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I;ve hcanged the bio to say that he grew up in the Morningside Park district of South Central. His elementary school is located by the 105 and 110 intersection, between Figueroa and Vermon, south of Manchester. His official bios say that he lives "with his family" in San Pedro. Our bio says that he is no longer married. Do you recall of the Times gave any info on his current marital status? Thanks, -Willmcw 21:47, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
- This is the Hahn bio from the LAT (reg required). Hahn is separated from his wife, and has custody of the kids. --Slightlyslack 01:48, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reference. Unfortunately it is just on his childhood. At least we got some facts corrected. Good work. -Willmcw 02:47, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
- This is the Hahn bio from the LAT (reg required). Hahn is separated from his wife, and has custody of the kids. --Slightlyslack 01:48, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Is it necessary for Crenshaw Boulevard to redirect to this page? The street goes down beyond the neighborhood and it goes all the way to the beach. Floydspinky71 22:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
I think that it's Ice-T who's from Crenshaw - not Ice Cube.
Correct...Ice-T graduated from Crenshaw High School in 1976. One note: The article states that the Faithdome is located in the Crenshaw District. It was originally located on Crenshaw Blvd, hence The Crenshaw Christian Center. It is now located in the Vermont Knolls Community as is the community where James Hahn grew up. Also the area south of Manchester between Figueroa and Vermont is not Morningside Park.
- Howcum nobody in all these years pointed out that Morningside Park is in Inglewood, California? BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 00:23, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
"Crenshaw" versus "Crenshaw District"
editThis needs to be changed. When people in L.A. speak of "Crenshaw", they are referring to the Boulevard, and not the community. When people speak of the community, they will say "Crenshaw District". Therefore, it is incorrect to say James Hahn or Ice Cube are "from Crenshaw", when it is a street and a high school, and not a city or neighborhood. (RTistic (talk) 02:00, 30 December 2008 (UTC))
Boundaries of Crenshaw
editAs it stands now, the article gives Vernon Ave as the northern boundary of Crenshaw. I don't think that's right. I've always thought anything south of the 10 and west of Jefferson Park and east of Culver City was also part of Crenshaw. If you look at the Jefferson Park article, it describes Crenshaw as being to the west of Jefferson Park.
The Baldwin Hills article says the area north of Baldwin Village is Mid-City, Los angeles, California but, the mid-city article says that Crenshaw is south of Mid-City.
Why doesn't the city of Los Angeles just declare some official boundaries?
^I agree with this 100%. It makes no sense saying that the border is Vernon, seeing that the shopping district, mall, Church, and all else is up to 2 or 3 miles north of Vernon. This needs to be fixed. (RTistic (talk) 02:02, 30 December 2008 (UTC))
Photo
editDoes anyone really think a picture of the freeway exit ramp is the most representative image of Crenshaw there is? I'm not from Crenshaw, but I think this needs to be fixed. Add a picture of some community gathering point, or some homes, or a street, or something! Not an offramp from a freeway that helped demolish part of the city.
Agree, and perhaps we can find a picture that doesn't look like it came from Dark Shadows :)
This photo absolutely needs to change. I'm also not from Crenshaw, but this photo doesn't show anything about the neighborhood and doesn't add to the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.51.229 (talk) 06:08, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Replaced photo per this discussion. New photo is the African American mural at 52nd st and Crenshaw Blvd, hopefully a more informative and interesting image.Nomotiv867 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:37, 21 January 2010 (UTC).
Statistics
editThere seems to be a problem with the statistics of population in this article. they add up to 117.1% Dangaz 06:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- It's a crowded area. ;) But seriously... "Hispanic" is not a race so it overlaps with the others. I'm not sure what the source for these statistics is so we can't double check them. -Will Beback · † · 17:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- This is primarily because in statsical sense (e.g. the U.S. Census Bureau), "Hispanic" could be of any race. --Moreau36 (talk) 18:04, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
editThere is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Bunker Hill, Los Angeles which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 19:30, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
- Interested editors can also comment at Talk:Los Angeles Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 03:50, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Baldwin Hills-Crenshaw District
editThe fact that there is a dispute over whether the "Crenshaw District" is the more normal usage (I think it is) should not mean we remove this helpful information which is used by the Los Angeles Times to identify this area. So I put it all back. I hope you understand that this is only for information, and I do not care to take sides in this dispute. Sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 05:59, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Crenshaw is not the same as Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw
edit- I have removed the Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw map and the "also see: Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw" suggestion from the top of the Crenshaw page. I have outlined a history of one user and - despite consensus - his insistence that this page reflect the the much larger area of the combined neighhorhoods of Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw.
- (1) BeenAroundAWhile started a merger discussion [1]to combine the two distinct neighborhoods of Baldwin Hills and Crenshaw into the Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw page that BeenAround had recently created. The response was a resounding “No”.
- (2) Four months later, BeenAround overruled consensus that came out of the merger discussion, deleted the Crenshaw page, and redirected it to Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw [2] The re-direct was quickly reverted.
- (3) The following month, BeenAround then went over to the Baldwin Hills page, and again, despite consensus from the merger discussion, deleted and re-directed the Baldwin Hills page to Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw. Again, the re-direct was quickly reverted.
- (4) Despite it being made clear that these two distinct neighborhoods should remain separate – and not combined into one – BeenAround then added the map from the much larger Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw area to Crenshaw[3] The map was removed with the notation that it does not represent this neighborhood.
- (6) BeenAround re-installed the Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw map and it’s written boundaries to the Crenshaw page, despite the fact that the map and boundaries do not represent the Crenshaw neighborhood. [5]Phatblackmama (talk) 23:37, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Content Issue
editUser:Phatblackmama,User:BeenAroundAWhile - I understand that there is some disagreement about what should be the scope of this article or the subject of this article. I suggest that each editor state, in one paragraph, what they think is at issue or should be changed or left the same in this article. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:41, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
- Whatever the sources say is just what we should follow. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 01:37, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Crenshaw Neighborhood
editCrenshaw was recently changed from being a "neighborhood" to only a "commercial thoroughfare". I have reverted it back to a "neighborhood".
On her government web page, State Rep. Karen Bass refers to neighborhoods she represents: "California’s 37th District encompasses many neighborhoods in the City of Los Angeles, including South Los Angeles, Crenshaw, Baldwin Hills, Miracle Mile, Pico-Robertson, Century City, Cheviot Hills, West Los Angeles, and Mar Vista."[1]. LAPD's Southwest Division serves the neighborhoods of "Adams-Normandie, Baldwin Hills, Baldwin Village, Baldwin Vista, Crenshaw, Exposition Park, Jefferson Park, Leimert Park, Union Square, University Park, Village Green, West Adams". [2] Curbed had chosen Crenshaw as a runner-up for "neighborhood of the year". [3] In 2016, the Los Angeles Times had an article on a "Promise Zone" whose "boundaries include about 200,000 residents living in parts of Crenshaw, Leimert Park, Exposition Park, University Park, Historic South-Central, Central-Alameda, Florence and downtown Los Angeles." LA Almanac sells maps that show the Crenshaw neighborhood as being south of "Leimert Park" and north of "Hyde Park". [4] The Thomas Guide, which is cited in numerous LA neighborhood articles, places "Crenshaw" as a neighborhood and this has long been noted in the List of districts and neighborhoods of Los Angeles. Long standing citations within this article also refer to Crenshaw as a neighborhood. "Crenshaw was at the forefront of the fair housing movement in the postwar era. After opening in 1958, Holiday Bowl became the hub of this integrated neighborhood." [5]
Crenshaw Neighborhood 2
editThe official name that the city and state use is Crenshaw [6] [7] and neither city nor state place it inside a larger neighborhood called "Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw". Nor is that phrase used by notable sources Laist, curbed or Los Angeles magazine. Beyond the pages of the mapping project, I am even having a hard time finding the phrase "Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw" used in the LA Times newspaper itself; in 2016, it places the Baldwin Hills Crenshaw Mall in Baldwin Hills.[8]
Wiki Education assignment: Writing 1 TR Both Classes
editThis article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 24 August 2023 and 14 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): JosephB724 (article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by JosephB724 (talk) 18:01, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
Girlfriends
editThis was listed under "Media":
- Girlfriends - Maya has a book reading at Crenshaw Bookstore.
Looking at the list of Girlfriends episodes, it appears to be from season 5, episode 108. But there is no mention of Crenshaw as the location of the bookstore. Googled, but could not find a source to cite. Phatblackmama (talk) 17:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
References
edit- ^ https://bass.house.gov/our-district/district-map-ca-37-overview
- ^ http://www.lapdonline.org/southwest_community_police_station
- ^ https://la.curbed.com/2015/12/28/10851324/los-angeles-pacoima-versus-crenshaw-competition-curbed-cup-final-four
- ^ http://www.laalmanac.com/LA/lamap2.php
- ^ https://web.archive.org/web/20081121112526/http://www.aamovement.net/community/holidaybowl.html
- ^ https://bass.house.gov/our-district/district-map-ca-37-overview
- ^ https://culturela.org/council-districts-directory/city-council-district-8/
- ^ Jennings, Angel (february 16, 2016). "Could a mall in Baldwin Hills become the next Glendale Americana?". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 10 June 2020.
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