Talk:Celebrity culture

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This has a serious NPOV issue. I dislike the celebrity culture as much as anybody, but this isn't neutral. -- User:Tom Morris (not logged in)

Very much agreed. violet/riga (t) 20:35, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Not just a NPOV issue, but it's badly written and assumes too much previous knowledge of celebrity culture: it doesn't define what it is as much as add notes to its meaning. I will rewrite it when I have a chance.--Mike 17:48, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Although it assumes some information is known, it's still descriptive and self explanatory enough to understand the article's content. That being said, I would have liked a more in depth analysis rather than having the article be surface level. Cgelpieryn (talk) 16:34, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

I'll try to improve this article when I have time. I'll put it on my watchlist. Singerisbored 22:59, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

• hello, i just did alot of work on this page, i think it deserves it, alot of interesting things can be said here. for the part of listing unapreciated celebrities, lets add abillion, i cant think of any more tonite. what do you think? Spencerk 06:45, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

It's certainly much better now. :)Singerisbored 17:36, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

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Definition of celebrity

This gets into a Family Resemblance problem, on which it's perfectly sane to disagree with one another. The example of posthumous fame aren't very good, in my opinion, because we haven't got a clear definition of what a celebrity is. We can say that Socrates is a celebrity, but I don't think that we mean the same thing as when we say that Paris Hilton is a celebrity. Socrates or Vincent van Gogh are technically celebrities, but within the context of the articles, surely we should list showbiz-type celebrities of the sort that would be found in a modern media-driven system of celebrity. I'm thinking of people like James Dean, Jimi Hendrix and Marilyn Monroe. There isn't a cut and dried definition of celebrity, but I think that these fit better than the ones currently listed in the article. Thoughts? --Tom Morris (talk)

Yes, agreed. I began writing some of this logic into the History section just to get us started. The most important thing to distinguish between famous people and the "members of celebrity culture" is that celebrity culture is a modern day phenomenon. While the word "celebrity" technically means "famous person", there is still a need to focus on the current and relevant nature of this "culture". There might actually be an opportunity here to include research on public reactions to famous figures of the past to include an actual history of celebrity culture. Maybe there actually were ancient fan clubs of some kind and that people were influenced by known public figures' appearances, lifestyles, etc. It will also be important to define "culture" since that's more the operative word. There are probably many more essays on celebrity culture, but I found one that almost exactly mimicked my sentiments in what I wrote. http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3401800707.html Phil.wasag (talk) 02:39, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Personal opinions?

This article reads more like the personal opinions or musings of one or several authors and brings very little value.

If the term exists in (e.g.) sociology, give us the corresponding scientific discussion.

If it only exists as a poorly defined everyday term, cut the article down to the minimum that describes the core meaning.

If the term does not exist but is the free invention of the authors, delete the article. (I am not certain that I have seen "celebrity culture" in practical use, and my take on the meaning would have been a culture (or cult...) heavily based on celebrities or the wish to be famous, as seen by many young or intellectually limited people of today. The given meaning of "A celebrity culture is the structure that influences celebrities." does not strike me as obviously true or, for that matter, clear in meaning.) 80.226.24.9 (talk) 03:37, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello! I am wondering why this page doesn't seem up to date with today's celebrity culture. I would suggest edits that include celebrity culture examples. I would also like to ask why this article seems to be negatively speaking on celebrity culture and changing the topic to old somewhat underappreciated artists? It seems like an irrelevant change in topic and is strange considering the fact that no celebrity culture examples are listed but plenty of artists from centuries ago are. Treesssss (talk) 22:24, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Here are some useful articles I have found. They are credible and will be useful for some content edits I will make to the article. Furedi, Frank (Summer 2010). "Celebrity Culture". Society. 47 Issue 6: 493–496 – via EBSCOhost. Jump up ^ Driessens, Olivier (Fall 2013). "The celebritization of society and culture: Understanding the structural dynamics of celebrity culture". International Journal of Cultural Studies. Vol 16 Issue 6: 2–10 – via EBSCOhost. line feed character in |title= at position 35 (help) Jump up ^ Gamson, Joshua. "The Unwatched Life Is Not Worth Living: The Elevation of the Ordinary in Celebrity Culture". PMLA. 126 (4): 1061–1069. doi:10.1632/pmla.2011.126.4.1061. Jump up ^ "Britney, Beyonce, and me - primary school girls' role models and constructi...: EBSCOhost". web.b.ebscohost.com. Retrieved 2018-02-21. Avam11 (talk) 21:50, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

In addition to the articles above, I too found some credible articles. Caravelli, Jill. “Celebrity Culture.” The International Encyclopedia of Communication, vol. 2, 2008, pp. 421–424, Gale Virtual Reference Library, http://link.galegroup.com/apps/doc/CX1329700128/GVRL?u=wash11212&sid=GVRL&xid=5c0d74bf Accessed 23 Feb. 2018. , Driessens, Olivier. “The Celebritization of Society and Culture: Understanding the Structural Dynamics of Celebrity Culture.” International Journal of Cultural Studies, vol. 16, no. 6, 2013, pp. 641–657., doi:10.1177/1367877912459140. Accessed 23 Feb. 2018. , Feeley, Kathleen A. “Gossip as News: On Modern U.S. Celebrity Culture and Journalism.” History Compass, vol. 10, no. 6, 2012, pp. 467–482., doi:10.1111/j.1478-0542.2012.00854.x. Accessed 23 Feb. 2018. , Fox, S. “Spectacular Girls: Media Fascination & Celebrity Culture.” Womens Studies-an Interdisciplinary Journal, vol. 44, no. 4, 2015, pp. 577–577., doi: 10.1080/00497878.2015.1018012 Accessed 23 Feb. 2018. , Furedi, Frank. “Celebrity Culture.” Society, vol. 47, no. 6, 2010, pp. 493–497., doi:10.1007/s12115-010-9367-6. Accessed 23 Feb. 2018., Marshall, P. David. Celebrity and Power: Fame in Contemporary Culture. University of Minnesota Press, 2014, JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/10.5749/j.ctt7zw6qj. . Accessed 23 Feb. 2018 Michaelaj91 (talk) 02:20, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Celebrity Culture and Politics

I have added to the Celebrity Culture and Politics section of this page. It seemed to only focus on recent occurrences in presidential campaigns. I wanted to add some more information about Celebrity politicians, as President Trump seemed to bring a lot of attention to this area. I also put in some information about Celebrities and Political Issues. I tried to fit in the old information in the section, but I'm not sure if it flows all that well or not. AsianStudent852 (talk) 00:04, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

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