Talk:Castlevania (TV series)
Latest comment: 4 years ago by Hijiri88 in topic When is this series set?
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When is this series set?
editThe only reference I can find to it in the article is Category:Television series set in the 15th century, which is inappropriate when the body of the article doesn't appear to give this information with a reliable secondary source. Are we assuming that it takes place around the same time as the game that seasons 1 and 2 were loosely based on? Season 3, episode 9 opens with a family of what appear to be Europeans (certainly not native Americans) eating tomato, and while I know it's a common trope in medieval-based fantasy fiction to have Europeans eating food that didn't exist in Europe in the middle ages, the 18th-century Comte de Saint Germain is also a prominent character in the third season. Was there a point earlier on in the show (I haven't re-watched season 1 in three years) where it was explicitly stated to take place in the 15th century? Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:11, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Season 1, episode 1 begins with the caption "Wallachia, 1455".--AlexandraIDV 13:50, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Alexandra IDV: Thank you -- can you find a secondary source that describes the show as being set in the 15th century and add that text to the article body? If the primary source material contradicts itself (isn't it widely known that there were no tomatoes in Europe in 1455?), we generally try to find secondary sources that allow us to address the matter, rather than simply assuming that one datum somewhere in the show is correct and another piece of contradictory information (that I freely admit is a lot less direct) is just a flub. The article currently contains an unsourced, unattributed (and unsourceable and unattributable) claim that the show takes place in the 15th century, and there are doubtless many readers like me who didn't rewatch the first two seasons before watching this most recent one and coming to Wikipedia to find out what was up. (BTW, I'm pretty sure reliable sources could be found to address the show's confusion over Catholic/Orthodox Christianity, and while at no point during the Christian era did Romanian and English calendar dates differ by decades or centuries, 1455 in the Coptic calendar apparently corresponds to 1739. Yes, this way of thinking about the show is completely absurd, and I am not advocating it with any degree of seriousness, but rather making an analogy to explain why relying on primary, fictional sources is problematic.) Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 16:18, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- The answer to this is - it is fantasy fiction and does not have any obligation to be consistent with the real world or itself, and you can't use real-world history to "prove it wrong". There weren't vampires in Europe in the 15th century, either. If the show says it's set in 1455, it is.--AlexandraIDV 16:39, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Please focus on article content. The article currently violates policy by including an unsourced claim in the categories that doesn't appear anywhere else in the article. I don't care about "proving the show wrong", and I don't know what in my above comment gave you that impression. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 01:14, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- The answer to this is - it is fantasy fiction and does not have any obligation to be consistent with the real world or itself, and you can't use real-world history to "prove it wrong". There weren't vampires in Europe in the 15th century, either. If the show says it's set in 1455, it is.--AlexandraIDV 16:39, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Alexandra IDV: Thank you -- can you find a secondary source that describes the show as being set in the 15th century and add that text to the article body? If the primary source material contradicts itself (isn't it widely known that there were no tomatoes in Europe in 1455?), we generally try to find secondary sources that allow us to address the matter, rather than simply assuming that one datum somewhere in the show is correct and another piece of contradictory information (that I freely admit is a lot less direct) is just a flub. The article currently contains an unsourced, unattributed (and unsourceable and unattributable) claim that the show takes place in the 15th century, and there are doubtless many readers like me who didn't rewatch the first two seasons before watching this most recent one and coming to Wikipedia to find out what was up. (BTW, I'm pretty sure reliable sources could be found to address the show's confusion over Catholic/Orthodox Christianity, and while at no point during the Christian era did Romanian and English calendar dates differ by decades or centuries, 1455 in the Coptic calendar apparently corresponds to 1739. Yes, this way of thinking about the show is completely absurd, and I am not advocating it with any degree of seriousness, but rather making an analogy to explain why relying on primary, fictional sources is problematic.) Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 16:18, 16 March 2020 (UTC)