Talk:CIII-DT

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Too many navigational templates at the bottom of this article. We need to somehow make that section a little more friendly.  Denelson83  05:51, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Global Confusion

I've never understood Global. Global TV in Ottawa advertizes itself as "Ontario's source for news", but I have yet to see a Global reporter leave the greater Toronto area. A double-murder in Ottawa would (and has) gone unreported while "Ontario's source for news" reports on street sweepers in Toronto. Every anchor, reporter, and advertisement is very careful to use the word "Ontario" and never the word "Toronto", which seems very disingenuous. Anchors routinely use terms like "in THE city", as if Toronto is the only city in Ontario. Global is completely devoted imparting the virtues of the glorious Toronto Maple Leafs. Even traffic and weather reports are branded as being for Ontario despite being solely for Toronto.

The only reports from Ottawa are in relation to the federal government. Ottawa is a city with a metropolital area of over a million people, most of whom have nothing to do with the government. (The largest employer is the high-tech sector, followed by the service industry). I don't think any Global news reporter has ever wandered away from the parliament buildings. There's a lot of news here, and Global seems pretty clueless.

It wouldn't bother me so much if Global was more honest about their true market. CityTV for example is also Toronto-centric, but is quite honest about the fact that it's by Toronto, for Toronto. Global news seems to want the market share of an Ontario-wide news resource, without investing the resources to make it happen. --70.81.251.32 23:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Is the Toronto translator the main station?

Does anyone know if CIII sends its signal to the Toronto translator (channel 41) first, rather than to the "main" Paris one? Was wondering because CKMI-TV sends its signal to its Montreal translator first rather than the nominal main transmitter in Quebec City.Blueboy96 19:57, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Toronto is HDTV, Paris is not (as it is still analogue-only). There is therefore no way to operate Toronto as a pure repeater of the Paris station without killing any HD or DTV-specific functionality. I've updated this much; I'm also very inclined to remove the unsourced nonsense about CIII-DT-41 staying on its current UHF 65 position after analogue shutdown. Odds are, anything outside the 2-51 range of "core channels" (or more realistically 7-51, given the DTV impulse noise debacle) isn't going to stay on those frequencies after digital transition is complete as this bandwidth is being taken away from TV broadcasting for mobile providers. --66.102.80.212 (talk) 03:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Until CIII-TV-41 shuts down it's analog transmitter and CIII-DT-41 flashcuts to Ch. 41, it would be irresponsible to say that CIII-TV-41 would be moving back to Ch. 41. At least the channel 65 assignment is in the Industry Canada database. Emarsee ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 04:09, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

This article currently purports that "After the analog television shutdown and digital conversion, which is tentatively scheduled to take place on August 31, 2011, CIII-TV-41 will continue digital broadcasts on its current pre-transition channel number, 65." CIII-TV-41 legally cannot continue on 65 after this is over, as that channel will be reallocated for non-television use. SpectrumDirect.ic.gc.ca as a source only tells us that the station is allocated UHF 65 now, not that it has (or can even apply for) UHF 65 post-transition. CIII-TV-41 must turn off analogue in 2011 and move its digital signal in-core: if not to 41, then to another channel in the 2-51 range. The article text as it stands legally makes no sense. --66.102.80.212 (talk) 08:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

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Question about the name of the article

Since the CRTC has changed the COL of CIII from Paris to Toronto, wouldn't the article be renamed CIII-TV-41, since CIII-TV is now a translator of CIII-TV-41.  єmarsee  • Speak up! 04:52, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree in principle, but I'd be hesitant to do a move immediately since Canwest might use this opportunity to make the Toronto transmitter CIII-TV (and the Paris transmitter something else, say CIII-TV-1)... or maybe not. We'll know within a few weeks. In any event, "CIII-TV" remains the base call sign for most of the transmitters, so the article title isn't entirely invalid. — stickguy (:^›)— || talk || 00:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

If the Toronto transmitter actually had a different base call sign (i.e. the CIII part) from the Paris transmitter, I'd agree that the article should be moved. But if the only difference is the number suffix, I don't think it's particularly important to actually do so. Firstly, it's true that Canwest may flip the call signs at a later date, which would leave us having to move the article back again anyway. And secondly, the move wouldn't actually add anything of great value to the article beyond datageekery for the sake of datageekery; most Wikipedia users have absolutely no clue about the -41 suffix, so the move's only real value would be as a technicality with no genuinely meaningful significance.

The call sign rule was meant to forestall using a branding like "Global Ontario" as our article title. I don't think it was ever meant to be applied so strictly and invariably that we would have to move an article from "CIII-TV" to "CIII-TV-41" just because of a licensing technicality that merely reflected what was already functionally true about the station's operations anyway. Bearcat (talk) 17:31, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

The CRTC ownership chart lists CIII as CIII-TV-41 and CKMI as CKMI-TV-1: http://www.crtc.gc.ca/ownership/cht14A.pdf Also, if Canwest was going to change the call letters they probably would've done it by now, since it's been almost a year. --Noname2 (talk) 19:23, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

22 in Cottam blank during US shows?

According to the article, the channel 22 transmitter in Cottam went blank when an American show was televised. However, according to a 7/20/1974 TV Guide listing at Radio-Info, channel 22, as well as 29 in Oil Springs, showed an alternate program, "Country Matters", while the rest of Global's network saw "Apple's Way", a CBS program. Did Global provide alternate programming early on before deciding it would be better just to black it out? Or did they always provide an alternate program? -- azumanga (talk) 16:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Global Toronto changed frequency

Global Toronto (UHF 41) has officially changed its signal from UHF 41 to UHF 17. The virtual channel is still 41.1. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.248.136.46 (talk) 02:32, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

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DT11

I see someone has been re-inserting this false statement:

It is unclear what Industry Canada will now use VHF channel 11, the spectrum that had been allocated for CIII-TV-2 digital, for.

This is nonsense. Corus' refusal to move CKWS-DT is tying up the channel, per https://services.crtc.gc.ca/pub/DocWebBroker/OpenDocument.aspx?AppNo=2020-0195-7 - so CIII can't move to eleven. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.102.87.40 (talk) 16:51, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Corus made it clear that they were not transitioning CIII-2 to digital TV and elected to instead broadcast CIII-2 on a sub-channel of it's Kingston transmitter. This is why CKWS remained on DT11. This was approved by the CRTC (broadcast decision 2020-391). The Bancroft transmitter was shuttered in September 2022 and CIII-2 is now broadcasting from the CKWS-DT transmitter in Kingston on one of its sub channels. TV's display it as 2.1Bigoranget (talk) 15:30, 3 October 2022 (UTC)