Talk:Black and Tan Coonhound

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The entire personality section reads like a personal essay on the author's love of the dog. "These dogs are truly one of the best kept secrets."??! Hope someone neutral who knows about the subject can re-write it. 75.36.128.21 21:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Response to discussion on neutrality of 'Black and Tan Coonhound Personality' Author.

Hi waving ;)

Though I will agree, it DOES sound very one sided and bias, the Author truly did capture the personality of the Black and Tan Coonhound. I have owned many dogs, some of which include a Husky, Sheltie, Border Collie/Sheltie cross, a Redbone Coonhound and, yes, a Black and Tan Coonhound. More than one, actually. And I must say, they truly are the most lovable, underapreciated dogs out there. I wouldnt disagree with a single thing he has said. It describes, well, not only my own Black and Tan, but also my father's and various other owners I have met and talked to. He is not lying though, they ARE harder dogs to fine. Mine and my father's are sisters and my father is very deep into Coonhounds so we have met other owners. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.65.69.36 (talk) 05:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Response to discussion on neutrality of 'Black and Tan Coonhound Personality' Author.

Hi waving ;)

So what, this is the nature of Wikipedia. When looking at Wikipedia information you will never know the credentials or lack there of, of the author. If you need solid information you need to be looking else where. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.129.60.164 (talk) 23:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi, waving! ;)

Sample size of N=1, but I will say that when I was a boy, my parents adopted a dog they were told was a "beagle mix," who I later found out was a black-and-tan coonhound. He was a brilliant dog, extremely loyal and affectionate, but because we lived a classic suburban lifestyle, he had elements that we were simply unequipped to train out of him. I loved that dog dearly, but I would caution anyone who's consulting Wikipedia about adopting certain breeds that coonhounds do not make good housepets. My dog was, if anything, too smart and too independent to take well to domestic life. Coonhounds are working dogs, and I feel that we didn't do right by him not giving him animals to hunt to death. If you have no interest in keeping dogs that can tree animals for you to kill, there are much better choices for adoption. He'll outsmart your best attempts at training him, and his breeding will kick in at the worst times, like when he's chasing cars, chasing rabbits, and chasing cats. Sure, you can keep him leashed at all times, but before you do that, consider a breed or a mixed breed that's more in tune with contemporary domestic needs. OTOH, if you live in a rural area where there are pest animals to control, coonhounds are the best. I am even told they make great pigdogs. 71.67.117.241 (talk) 01:43, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Black and Tan Coonhound references

Hi waving ;)

Not sure how you add references, but much of the initial paragraph as well as the description section and at least the 3rd paragraph of the personality section appears to be more or less a condensation of information from the AKC webpage(http://www.akc.org/breeds/black_tan_coonhound/index.cfm).

While I tend to agree with most of the subjective descriptions of the Black and Tan Coonhound found in this article, I also agree that the descriptions as written do read as subjective descriptions and could be helped by greater objectivity in writing style and/or supporting references. I would also enjoy seeing citations with regard to Mr. Washington's and Mr. Jefferson's ownership of B&T's. The AKC's history of the breed suggests that they were first "Owned by scouts and Indian fighters during the late 1700s," and that, "the Black and Tan was the first coonhound to be considered a separate breed from the American Foxhound and was admitted to American Kennel Club registry in 1945," (http://www.akc.org/breeds/black_tan_coonhound/history.cfm).

The final couple of paragraphs of this article are a bit bizarre and should probably be deleted as they are the poorly expressed and unsupported opinions of the writer. I could just as easily argue that black and tans are readily available--we often see coonhound litters (frequently including black & tans) & grown hounds in the classifieds as well as at the local animal shelters here in Arizona. (bgungle) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.15.84.160 (talk) 00:39, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Edited tone of article

Hi waving ;)

I edited up the sections of the article which referred to the author and the reader to make it more appropriate for Wikipedia, but it does still need some references for several of its statements. Predator47 (talk) 07:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Treeing?

I have no idea what "treeing" is. Cutler (talk) 00:49, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi waving ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.100.11.69 (talk) 00:38, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Treeing is what all coonhounds do - they were bred to chase a racoon up a tree for the hunter. While the article may seem biased, it is quite spot on. Pure bred black and tans are not are really not all that easy to find. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morgan17981 (talk • contribs) 16:32, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

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Can someone help, please? I'm just learning how to edit so I can contribute, and do not know how to change this. The link for the UKC 'STD' (under the upper right hand side picture) is broken. The correct link is: Here As far as the article itself, I see both arguments as being very valid. I intend upon re-editing and writing a more comprehensive article in it's place, as soon as I've learned to do it properly, with solid references listed and a much more neutral point of view. I hope that it will make up for the vast amount of info missing or assumed there now.

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