Talk:Basileus
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editCan anyone throw light on why the Wallstreet Gold article "Render Untoi Causer Part II" from <http://news.goldseek.com/BullionVault/1346265092.php> says:- The Euro symbol itself however, when decided in 1995, was chosen by the nearest thing Europe had to a basileus. "The European Commission organised an internal competition to come up with the symbol," the EC explains. "Some 30 drafts were considered – ten of which were tested on the public – and the final design was selected from two short-listed proposals by the then President of the Commission, Jacques Santer, and Commissioner Yves Thibault de Silguy." I can't see the resemblance in € as a Basileus? --Robbygay (talk) 02:07, 3 September 2012 (UTC) Small correction and reference added --Robbygay (talk) 02:11, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
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editAre you sure that Justinian II was the first Roman emperor to use the title of Basileus? I've read in several places that Heraclius was the first to use it. Kuralyov 20:55, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Under the section "Archaic basileus," an article by Robert Drews is mentioned, but not cited. Although the section includes a link to the Wikipedia page about Robert Drews, and the year in which the article was published (1983), I would recommend citing the article as well.
Edowker 13:09, 17 September 2017
Wasn't this the other way around?
editThis use of the word was new — when the Romans had originally conquered the Mediterranean, the imperial title "Caesar Augustus" was initially translated as "Kaisar Sebastos", and later Hellenized to "Kaisar Augoustos". "Imperator", another imperial title, was translated as "Autokrator". Interestingly, "BASILEUS" was initially stamped on Byzantine coins (in lieu of the standard Latin abbreviations "C.IMP." for "Caesar Imperator") in Latin script. Only somewhat later was the Greek script universally used.
Didn't it go from Καίσαρ Ἀυγούστους to Καίσαρ Σεβαστός? Augustus is the Latin word, Sebastos the native Greek. --Jpbrenna 03:02, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- No, it was initially fully translated and only later, when Αύγουστος became a familiar word due, among other things, to the universal adoption of the Roman calendar, was Αύγουστος adopted uniformly. Chronographos 01:22, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Basileus in another countries
editAs I know Byzantine emperors recognized title of basileus not only for rulers of Franks and Bulgarians, but also Persian rulers and Trapezuntine emperors (as "basileuses of East"). What's about rulers of Holy Roman Empire of German nation, of Georgia, of Armenia, Seljuk and Ottoman sultans, who knows? And Trapazuntine emperors could recognize this title for another monarchs/ For example, Serbian rulers (Byzantine emperors didn't recognize imperial title of Serbia). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.86.230.114 (talk) 11:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
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Use of title in the Greco-Bactrian Kingdom
editHello Materialscientist. Can you explain why you reverted this, diff? I see that the editor who made the contribution has since been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppetry, but this was actually an improvement. Under the section Use of basileus in classical times, you can see a "coin of the Greco-Bactrian/Indo-Greek king Agathocles of Bactria (r. 190–180 BC), bearing the title of basileōs". Thanks for your time. Demetrios1993 (talk) 04:41, 20 July 2021 (UTC)