Talk:Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear
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Data format
edit@Ferret: Hi. I didn't thought to make a discussion and applied the edit to date format since it is used as m-d-y even on others linked articles to this one, as Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition and Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn and Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition. Also the expansion Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast, then I just thought this expansion should not be different. Lone Internaut (talk) 20:23, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Lone Internaut: See MOS:DATERET. Needs to be discussed first, other articles using a particular format is a valid argument to make but posting on the talk page first is necessary to reach consensus. I'm ok with switching to MDY. Give it a couple days to see if anyone opposes. -- ferret (talk) 20:35, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- OK, didn't know that, thanks. Lone Internaut (talk) 20:39, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Transphobia?
editThe lead said that the backlash is driven by transphobia (hate or fear of transgender people), while the body says it's driven by the gamers annoyed by the perceived pushing of a political agenda (opposition to bringing politics into gaming). The article will benefit from being clearer and more nuanced as these two reasons are vastly different. 109.131.118.59 (talk) 10:14, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Missing Context
editThis article could use additional context regarding its controversy. While it's true that there was much transphobic backlash, there was also some criticism from the transgender community as well. One of the most prominent examples here. The gist is that the character Mizhena deadnames herself immediately -- in other words, she reveals the fact that she is trans and readily shares her former, "dead" name, something that a real trans person would likely never do so casually. This helps to explain why Beamdog chose the response they did, as described in the article: only after Mizhena trusts the players does she reveal her past. If Beamdog was pandering to transphobia as is implied, they would not have doubled-down on making this character a better, more accurate representation of trans people. As I am a novice with Wikipedia, I am not sure whether a forum link can be cited, or even should be cited, but more results on this topic can be found by searching the internet for Siege of Dragonspear + deadname. This article about a separate controversy in Mass Effect also mentions it; that particular controversy surrounded the deadnaming aspect much more than whether the character should be included at all. 2600:1702:4190:1B60:2D9A:7A19:5027:F0F7 (talk) 17:07, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
- A reliable source will be needed. The forum post is not usable as it is user generated -- ferret (talk) 19:00, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
This article full of far-left extremist bias
editThe article repeatedly uses the far-left propaganda slur "transphobic." "Transphobic" and "transphobia" are not real words. They are neologisms and slurs used by far-left propagandists to smear normal people who believe in biological reality as some kind of "phobe." Also, it incorrectly calls the tranny a "trans woman." That is far-left extremist propaganda and biological science-denial. The thing is a man, not a woman. It should be called a male transvestite or male-to-female transsexual. The article also incorrectly uses feminine pronouns to refer to the transvestite character. Since it is a man dresses as a woman, not an actual woman, it should have masculine pronouns. This far-left gender ideology propaganda that denies science is very damaging to the credibility of Wikipedia and should be removed. Furthermore, Polygon is by no means a reliable source. It is part of Vox and is a radical left-wing activist site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:FD0A:FB00:A833:189B:58E8:6D73 (talk) 06:53, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
- Cry me a river, and go edit Conservapedia instead. 2601:241:4280:161:5CB8:B482:6635:FDE0 (talk) 11:42, 27 August 2019 (UTC)