Talk:Australian greyhound racing live baiting scandal
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Proposal to move
editDoes this current event really deserve it's own stand-alone wikipedia page? Obviously live baiting has a history in greyhound racing, as various state governments have in the past taken action to outlaw it. Given this fact, and given that the topic of 'greyhound racing' already has it's own page which includes information live baiting - shouldn't this current event merely be a subsection on the 'greyhound racing' wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 10KittyKat01 (talk • contribs) 03:01, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- 10KittyKat01, I would certainly say yes, now that in the interim there has been an Inquiry in new south wales that led to a ban being schudeled for 1 July 2017, and the ACT also stating that they would ban greyhound racing. 220 of Borg 14:17, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- 220 of Borg, how do any of those facts lead to "Australian greyhound racing live baiting scandal" deserving it's own separate page from the "Greyhound racing" page? --10KittyKat01 (talk) 01:12, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Requested move 26 August 2016
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Not moved. There is a consensus that this is a notable topic in its own right, and that certainly a wider article is needed, but that should be created separately. — Amakuru (talk) 13:05, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Australian greyhound racing live baiting scandal → Greyhound racing in Australia – Undue prominence is given to the 'scandal' that should simply be a section within a wider article about greyhound racing in Australia, covering its history and its (potential) demise. Respectful and constructive feedback is welcome. Rangasyd (talk) 10:43, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Agree It could also incorporate the Special_Commission_of_Inquiry_into_the_Greyhound_Racing_Industry_in_NSW. --220 of Borg 19:43, 27 August 2016 (UTC)- Oppose. We need a separate article about the greyhound racing industry, but demolishing this article to create it is absolutely not the answer. This scandal poses the greatest threat to the existence of the greyhound industry in its history, appears set to end it in at least one state, has sparked at least one judicial inquiry and has thousands and thousands of sources at this point. It absolutely warrants a summary style link in a summary section in a broader article, but it is absolutely ludicrous to delete content on a massive, well-sourced and ongoing issue that is still making headlines (with significant political and commercial ramifications) daily after many months. We had two parliamentary secretaries sacked over the political fallout of this issue, what, yesterday? How can that be a footnote in a general industry article? The Drover's Wife (talk) 20:17, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support the need for rescoping, per WP:NPOV, but that's a general article talk discussion, not a WP:RM discussion. Anyway, we do not need a separate article on the scandal unless and until such time as an article on the broader topic is so large as to warrant a WP:SPLIT, per WP:SUMMARY. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 21:29, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
- This is backwards. We already have a detailed article on this. The need for the creation of a separate article on the broader topic doesn't magically erase the tons of content and sources here. The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:09, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose move. I agree with others above - the article Greyhound racing in Australia should be created as the main article for Category:Greyhound racing in Australia and Greyhound racing#Australia. This article can then be a meaningful expansion of one section of that article, such that the recent live baiting scandal does not dominate the main article about the sport in Australia that has been around for a long time. --Scott Davis Talk 02:40, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Parent article created
editI have created Greyhound racing in Australia, but realised I don't know much about the topic, nor what is important to cover in it, so have not put much in the article. I hope someone else can fill it in with some meaningful content please. --Scott Davis Talk 07:34, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
- Well done, Scott Davis. A good start. Just a few minor tweaks and more content plus images needed. Well done on WP:BOLD. Cheers Rangasyd (talk) 14:18, 5 September 2016 (UTC)