Talk:American propaganda during World War II
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editI've tagged this article as unbalanced, because it presents only one side of American WWII propaganda, which did not just consist of evil Germans attacking babies. There were also postitive pieces, such as Rosie the Riveter. The article also included tons of original research, unsourced statements and weasel words, though that's somewhat better now.--Gyrcompass 21:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Proposed merge and deletion of Anti-Japanese propaganda. --HanzoHattori 10:31, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- I agree that article Anti-Japanese propaganda can be included (merged) into American propaganda during World War II, together with nice propaganda poster.Biophys 14:21, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- Agree on merge. -- Hongooi 12:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
This is dreadful. It reads like an eighth-grade social studies essay. Delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.33.158.121 (talk) 20:43, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with the above comment. It almost sounds sympathetic towards the Nazis and Japanese on top of it being poorly written. "This portrays the Germans and Japanese as evil and the Americans as angelic." - Thanks for the observation, random internet dude..? There's nothing scholarly at all in this article's text. Entire thing is WP:OR.LokiiT (talk) 22:56, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Recent redirect/merge
editAnti-Japanese propaganda was recently redirected to here, and the content pasted in. I'm concerned that this is inappropriate; there has been plenty of other propaganda against Japan, apart from that published in America. Other countries have produced anti-japanese propaganda; there's enough source material for an article on anti-japanese propaganda even if you were to arbitrarily omit any published in the USA. We might as well redirect Film industry to Hollywood...
Any comments / suggestions / complaints? bobrayner (talk) 01:20, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- See, the problem with that is that the "Anti-Japanese Propaganda" Section only contains american Propaganda. You need to provide examples of Anti-Japanese Propaganda elsewhere.
- If some elements of content are lacking, that problem should be fixed by adding more content, not by deleting the existing text and then redirecting the article.
- I removed the comments that mysteriously got duplicated & mangled. They are still visible above, in their original place.
- bobrayner (talk) 09:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- If you would like to take the redirect off of the Anit-Japanese Propaganda, then go ahead BUT FIRST add some Anit-Japanese propaganda from other countries.(BEFORE YOU TAKE THE REDIRECT OFF). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geoffreyfishing (talk • contribs) 16:38, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Somebody really needs to clean this up
editPlease clean up this article, somebody. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.38.146 (talk) 01:26, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Working on it.Goldfritha (talk) 01:42, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
What a shame, such a wonderful topic and so poorly written. I've added it to my watch list and will try to clean it up. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 06:44, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- I will not touch the organization of the references. I'll leave that to someone with more time than I have. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 20:06, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- I am working on this a little bit at a time and it is rough. First, I'm just accepting that what is said is true. Second, many sentences in the same paragraph do not seem to bear much relation to each other. They do not flow. It is as if they were separate thoughts or sentences just cut and pasted together. At times I have no idea what the original author meant in some sentences. But I'll keep trying. And all I promise is that it will hopefully read better. I am also having problems trying to understand what the text is trying to get across in some cases. Very confusing. As such, I'm taking this very slowly as the editing is painful. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 03:13, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, I have completed my rewriting of this article to make it more readable, but it still has major problems. I may go through the article creating more links to other WP articles, but that is all I will do. Hopefully, someone with a greater understanding of the topic than I have will resolve some of these problems. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 10:19, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Copyright problem removed
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Questions about text
editUnder Media: Leaflets
Does the statement, "one squadron of B-17 bombers was entirely dedicated to this purpose." apply only to the European theater? And how does that agree with the statement that the Allies made such extensive use of planes for this purpose that the Germans were dismayed by Allied industry production? One squadron is not a lot of planes. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 19:46, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Under Themes: anti-German
What is meant by the sentence: "Much was made of Hitler's dictatorship as the government." Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 03:17, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- I see someone had dealt with this. Thanks. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 01:33, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Under Themes: False Optimism
I have a problem with "Joseph Goebbels countered this propaganda to prevent it influencing Germany, downplaying the defense of Corrigidor and attacking Douglas MacArthur as a coward. This was not very successful, as the German people knew it understated the American defense and that MacArthur had left under orders." Someone tell me how the German people knew this when the Nazis completely controlled the media, including radio. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 01:33, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Under Media
under Posters it states: "The U.S. used posters more than any other type of propaganda media, and produced more propaganda posters than any other country fighting in World War II."
whereas under Radio it states: "In the United States, radio was so widely used for propaganda that it greatly exceeded the use of other media that was typically used against other nations."
Which was more widely used? Appears to be a contradiction. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 00:40, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Animation
editThanks to Jordanpres1 for working on the Animation section, but it has grown so large that it dominates the article. I suggest this section be spun off into another article and its content here reduced to its essentials and linked to a new Use of animation in American World War II propaganda article. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 01:41, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Trfasulo. The section is well-done and lengthy enough to warrant its own page. I'll move it along with reducing the content on this page if there are no major objections. User: ACRCali (talk) 11:33, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Movies
editHey this article is missing any reference to racial inclusion propaganda used to encourage integrated black and white units in ww2. 174.89.255.8 (talk) 20:11, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
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Hirohito/Tojo
editThere are two images identified in the captions as caricatures of Hirohito, but they seem to clearly be caricatures of Tojo - military uniform and thick round glasses. I'm going to change the captions, but this note is in case there are other sources that say otherwise. Fishal (talk) 15:02, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
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Who is the he in his?
editIn the following, who is the he in his?
<quote> Careless talk
Many posters ridiculed and shamed careless talk as providing information to the enemy, resulting in Allied deaths. *His* effort presented to the public as a device to prevent people with sensitive information from talking about it where spies or saboteurs could listen in.[151] </quote>