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The lead contains this sentence: Critics of this term contend that the linguistic nature of this term inherently attacks police officers as individuals and believe other terms should be used in its place to support police reform. The one cited source doesn't say anything of the sort - it's a single primary opinion piece whose only mention of the term is But I know a lot of good police officers who do heroic work for all the right reasons, so I won’t be signing my name to any poster that says all cops are bastards. I can't find anything in the body supporting it, either. It appears to just be the opinion of an editor, or, at best, an editor's uncited opinion of what they think people say. If we're going to have it in the lead we should ideally find secondary sourcing saying that it's a common slogan; at the very least we would need more than one opinion piece saying the same thing in the body which we can then summarize in the lead, otherwise the best we can say is "Steve Lopez says X", which isn't leadworthy. But at the moment there's a more basic problem that the Lopez piece (which would already be undue to summarize as the sole source of criticism in the lead) doesn't even actually say what we're citing it for. I resisted the urge to reword it into something like "Steve Lopez has said he cannot endorse the term because he knows a lot of good police officers" because I assume better sources can be found, but that's what we'd have to do if we want to rely on it exclusively. --Aquillion (talk) 06:49, 17 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
according to what sources or content in the article?
For context: this is about this diff and the categories Category:Political slurs for people and Category:Pejorative terms for people. The first sentence of the article currently reads: ACAB (All Cops Are Bastards) is an acronym used as a political slogan associated with dissidents who are opposed to the police.There is no mention of the word "slur", but for some strange reason our article on pejorative defines both "pejorative" and "slur" as just being terms that are negative. I would have expected "slur" to be more narrowly applicable to terms of discrimination e.g. a homophobic word is a slur, but the negative phrase "mindless bureaucrat" is not. But I've self-reverted as the category system we have doesn't seem to follow this. — Bilorv (talk) 14:37, 8 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
