Talk:15th G7 summit

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EU participation

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There is a slow-motion edit war about one aspect of 15th G7 summit.

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Beginning with the 3rd G7 summit in London in 1977, the President of the European Commission or his successor President of the European Union has been a formal participant in successive annual events -- see "EU and the G8". In each article about G7/G8 summits, Lucie-Marie has deleted text about EU participation. These serial reverts ignored hyperlinks in the supporting inline citations which were also deleted. Despite attempts to engage discussion here, no consensus has been achieved. Her opinions here have merit, but they remain only opinions. No cited source supports these reverts. Our core policies require something different. WP:V seems relevant because "the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth — whether readers can check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true."

Group of Seven or G7+1
Group of Eight or G8+1

A slow-motion edit war is worrisome; but discussion can be constructive -- see Muskoka 2010: G8 members

The edit history of 36th G8 summit records an unhelpful pattern:

  1. diff 17:40, 9 July 2008 Lucy-marie (6,628 bytes) (→Composition of summit leaders)
  2. diff 16:48, 20 July 2008 Lucy-marie (10,987 bytes) (→Leaders at the summit: EU is invited and could be left off the invite list so it is not a oermenet member)
  3. diff 21:54, 10 April 2009 Lucy-marie m (24,339 bytes) (→Leaders at the summit)
  4. diff 19 March 2010 JLogan (24,837 bytes) (EU is a permanent participant, not merely a guest. check the main page)

The same pattern is seen at 37th G8 summit:

  1. diff 21:54, 10 April 2009 Lucy-marie m (12,394 bytes) (→Leaders at the summit)
  2. diff 09:28, 19 March 2010 JLogan (12,628 bytes) (→Leaders at the summit: EU is permanent participant, not just a guest)

This thread may help resolve the issues, or it may help bring clearer focus. --Tenmei (talk) 02:45, 29 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

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No mention here of the Financial Action Task Force invented at this meeting and tasked with worldwide asset forfeiture and substance prohibitionism. This was planned in 1949 as part of a Single Convention to replace the Versailles treaty and League of Nations prohibitionism, replanned in 1961, then revisited in March 1972, adding an ex-post-facto 25-yr deadline to the original 1961 plan. This, counting from 1961, made 1986 the target year in which all manner of drug laws were enacted, with more added after the 1987 Crash. With recessions and unemployment increasing apace with all these trade-hampering bureaucracies and enactments, does it make sense to pretend the FATF wasn't instituted and funded at this July 1989 meeting? Tradutor (talk) 19:13, 3 November 2024 (UTC)Reply