Draft talk:GeorgeNotFound

"Draft:GeorgeNotFound" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Draft:GeorgeNotFound and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 16#Draft:GeorgeNotFound until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Sr. Knowthing ¿señor? 03:18, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Explanation on sourcing and notability

Hi new page patrollers and other editors! Due to the turbulent history of this page, you may be eager to delete this article at the mere sight of this page entering mainspace. But before starting an AfD, please read this explanation.

Much work has been done to improve the article in recent months; the page at the time of the May 2022 AfC rejection was in a completely different state than the page now. There have been two main issues historically: poor sourcing and insufficient demonstrated notability. To address the former: all citations in the article are from reliable sources, demonstrated through inclusion on WP:RS/PS, WP:RS/N, or WP:VG/RS. To address the latter: many of these sources are independent and demonstrate significant coverage, clearly demonstrating that the subject now passes WP:GNG. See below the source assessment table, which features just some of the sources contributing toward GNG.

Source assessment table: prepared by User:PantheonRadiance

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Kotaku - June 3, 2021	Did not respond to request for comment, nor is he affiliated with any staff at Kotaku.	Per WP:VG/RS	In-depth article containing secondary sourced summary and synthesis about a Twitch stream he made, which describes web content he himself made per WP:WEBCRIT.	✔ Yes
Dot Esports - October 11th, 2022	Unaffiliated with publication.	Per WP:VG/RS	In-depth, secondary source article about GeorgeNotFound's background, including his career, analysis on his video content, and what led him to become an internet personality (multiple credible claims of importance)	✔ Yes
PC Gamer - January 13, 2020		Per WP:VG/RS	Secondary source summary of a video George himself made describing one of his videos - suitable per WP:WEBCRIT.	✔ Yes
Variety - October 13, 2022	IS Independent - GeorgeNotFound isn't affiliated with anyone from Variety. See comment below.	Per WP:RSPSS and WP:VG/RS.	Despite containing some primary sourced quotes, most of the material is secondary thoughts/analysis from the author. In-depth article discussing his YouTube content, background and impact and their other future endeavors, while also adding secondary material contextualizing his popularity in terms of internet fame and the emergence of social media and its influence on society. In-line with investigative journalism akin to 60 Minutes, per WP:INTERVIEWS.	✔ Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

As for why this page was rejected through AfC this month, you can read the rejection comments and the subsequent review discussion yourself. All concerns made by the reviewers were either addressed in the discussion or remedied in later edits. However, at some point reviewers were just unwilling to engage in discussion, to either move it ourselves or submit it to AfC again — so I am following their suggestion.

If you are considering an AfD, I first encourage you to reevaluate the article as it is today. BappleBusiness^[talk] 04:25, 11 January 2023 (UTC)