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Joseon Tongsinsa
Hi, I am also very busy these days. However, this is serious, so I really need help. As User:Tenmei edits Korea-Japan history articles, Joseon Tongsinsa, Taejo of Joseon and Korean diplomats, he ignores Korean naming conventions and names, and removed contents. He also inserted unrelated or trivia and very old outdated sources to articles. So please join the discussion of Joseon Tongsinsa and Taejo of Joseon. Thank you.--Historiographer (talk) 13:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't say correctly. Joseon Tongsinsa is arbitrarily split to the two document by Tenmei. He cuted and pasted materials to Joseon missions to Japan. There was no discussion about the split. I don't know why everyone is so quiet. Please join to the it's merge discussion.--Historiographer (talk) 13:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Need help with translation
I'm going to have a go at bringing Jang Jin-young up to GA status, but I need some help translating some of the info from her agency's website [1], specifically:
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| Education | 상명대학교 의상학과 | Jang studied fashion design at Sangmyung University |
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I've tried translating it with Google, but didn't find it very helpful. Any help would be appreciated! :) PC78 (talk) 17:10, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- I will help you since you have been great help for me a lot. :-)--Caspian blue 17:22, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Done --Caspian blue 18:27, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot Caspian! :) PC78 (talk) 18:35, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Requested move on Gyeongbokgung
User:Gryffindor has requested move from Gyeongbokgung to Gyeongbok Palace. This is related to his moves of Korean royal palace on Commons. I would appreciate if anyone interested in the subject gives input to Talk:Gyeongbokgung#move request. Thanks.--Caspian blue 03:53, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Relevant AfD
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moonies. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 07:21, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Popular pages
A popular pages list for this project is now available at http://toolserver.org/~alexz/pop/view.php?proj=korea&month=Oct09&limit=100&offset=0. How sad that the most popular Korean article is Super Junior. PC78 (talk) 18:53, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- -) I feel like contributing to Korean Pop culture would be more meaningful if I care about viewer numbers. --Caspian blue 19:01, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Submitting an article request on Korean Wikipedia
How do I, who does not speak Korean, submit an article request to the Korean Wikipedia? Kenseiden was released in Korea as "ko:화랑의검" - And I think someone should start an article about that subject. Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 02:31, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
218.150.146.130 keeps writing... er... 'far from perfect' things... I think he (or she) should write on the Discussion page, and ask someone else to write it in. Yet 218.150.146.130 is not a registered user... so I can't contact him. I don't think he looks at the 'talk' page. Help, anyone? -IspinIm (talk) 08:08, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
- You can contact IP address users. Use User talk:218.150.146.130 WhisperToMe (talk) 10:55, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Pageview stats
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Relevant AFD
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dan Fefferman. Cirt (talk) 06:50, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Junko Sakurada
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Junko Sakurada. Thank you for your time, Cirt (talk) 12:21, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Korean language sources for K-Multimedia Player
This article K-Multimedia Player looks like it may be important to Korean computer users. It currently lacks the requirements of the Wikipedia:Notability guideline and needs multiple references from mainstream reliable sources. Those sources might exist in Korean language news sources. Can you help add them to the article? Miami33139 (talk) 17:24, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
About Kim Yoon-ok
The Japanese Wikipedia page makes mention to a quote by Mrs. Kim made during Lee Myung-bak's mayoral campaign in Seoul. In response to a rumor that her husband had an illegitimate child, she responded to media questions by saying (something along the lines of) "If that's so, then go get [him] so [he] can help with the campaign." (the word 隠し子 is gender-neutral, so it isn't necessarily [he]." I can't seem to find a good source with this quote, but I think it's an interesting bit to have on the page if it's true (personally, I enjoy seeing these kinds of quotes from people). A Google search of 金潤玉 and 隠し子 brings up a number of pages with variations on the quote (all in Japanese), but I can't find a good primary source.
Unfortunately, I don't have the time to be on Wikipedia often anymore, so I thought I'd bring it up here in case someone here had the time and maybe knows enough Korean to run a Korean language search. Maybe something might come up in a mainstream news article in Korean, or maybe the quote is made up (the Japanese page has no reference for it).
Need imput on Dabang
It's a mess. Apparently created in retaliation from those who "have felt the flack from Koreans about how we as english teachers are all corrupt."[2] The sources are really bad. Now the page creator Mugamalanga and his various ip and accounts [3][4][5][6][7](probably more - their edits are limited to the same articles relating to New Zealand and ESL teaching) insists that his |personal experience (or just flat-out secondhand experience gathered from blogs) are somehow credible enough to contend with actual fact.
Just a badly written article. The state that it's in right now, I would propose a deletion. I would try to rewrite it according to the Korean wiki page (if the idea is even notable at all), but Mugamalanga is prone to edit warring with proxies and I just don't have the time for it right now. I would appreciate it if someone would review the page.
Cheers. Akkies (talk) 02:29, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Looking for Help
Does anyone know how to write ㅼㅏ without having it two different spaces? I am doing research on pre-1930s Korean magazines and I'm trying to write things like ㅼㅏ님 (modern: 따님) on my word processor... Thanks for your help Konamaiki (talk) 22:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- One way is to manually use Unicode's individual (i.e. decomposed) combining characters; see section 3.12 in the Unicode spec. Basically you'll have to bring up a character map and hunt for each letter you need individually (first from the "choseong" block, then from the "jungseong" block, then from the "jongseong" block). Something like U+112F + U+1161. But at least for me it doesn't quite look right: ᄯᅡ ... cab (talk) 01:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Help: Gwangpo Bay
Hi there,
Can anyone help editing Gwangpo Bay?
I am not quite accustomed to Wikipedia, and don't know how to improve this article.
Relevant AFD
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Unificationists (2nd nomination). Thank you for your time, Cirt (talk) 09:00, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
AFD
Hi. Any input on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kin_Yang-Song would be appreciated. I googled the subject, and came up with nothing (suspecting a hoax). But I can't search Korean websites for references, so any help would be useful. --Soman (talk) 09:52, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
MBC Voice Acting Division
MBC Voice Acting Division is a redlink with about 50 incoming links from articles.
An article on this topic has been deleted twice, once as an expired PROposed Deletion, once as advertising.
Is this subject matter notable? Can an article be written that will withstand scrutiny? If so, could someone familiar with the topic and Korean-language resources write one?
If not, let me know and I'll delete the incoming links. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 16:38, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
East Asian snowstorms of 2009-2010
The article East Asian snowstorms of 2009-2010 needs work, is anyone willing to help clean up the article?
Excuse me.
Would you plesase participate talk:Agony of Doha. I think it is NPOV problem. So that name would be changed. I'll wait for your opinion. Thank you.--Awesong (talk) 06:34, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
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Korean Empire
Please visit Talk:Greater Korean Empire#Requested move. Thanks.--Historiographer (talk) 01:24, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Magical JXR
the korean Manhwa article for "magical JXR" is currently being made. i started it here User:Bread Ninja/Magical JXR. I don't have a lot of time to work on it due to other articles, but it will be great if someone added refs plot, and/or reception.Bread Ninja (talk) 15:44, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Economy of South Korea
Hey can someone give me a hand with this article. I'll admit I was edit warring for a bit but now I've stopped. I know its a no no around here. Anyways the problem is that as it currently stands, the introduction is horribly biased, and there's a ridiculous amount of irrelevant images. The other two users (possibly the same) who are reverting refuse to hold intelligent discussion on the talk page. What to do? Anawrahta (talk) 01:21, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- I guess WP:SPI would be an answer for you if you can collect enough evidences. --Caspian blue 03:21, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Additional hanja to the top of Infobox settlement
Although I left a message to User talk:ASDFGH#Hanja in regards to ASDFGH (talk · contribs)'s insertion of additional hanja to {{Infobox settlement}} on Korean geography-related articles, I think any available input would be appreciated since he already made such edits to many articles. I don't doubt that his such edits are from good faith, but hanja is already addressed in such infobox, and only used as a supplement in Korean writing system. I believe the addition is also not a convention for Korean geography related articles. If this needs a discussion, please discuss the matter here.--Caspian blue 03:21, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
GA reassessment of Harisu
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Harisu/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:51, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Discussion over Anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea
| A duplicated argument of Je suis tres fatigue (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) with one at Talk:Anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea |
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There is a dispute over a certain section. The section is now like this. Most historians know the close relations between Korea and Japan throughout history, with Korea transmitting major technological advances to Japan. In Japan this history is downplayed or omitted causing anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea. Emperor Kammu's grandfather was recorded to be of Korean ancestry but this is disputed by some Japanese historians, citing the source as unreliable. Accordingly, Imperial tombs are blocked from archeological studies by foreign archeologists[1] and historical errors from the early 1900s are not updated.[2] The National geographics wrote Japan "has kept access to the tombs restricted, prompting rumors that officials fear excavation would reveal bloodline links between the "pure" imperial family and Korea"[3] Other historians have pointed to "Korean type pottery, crowns, earrings, and weapons are artifacts that are commonly found in fifth century Japanese tombs, and the stone-corridor-and-chambered tombs in northern Kyūshū are perhaps “the tombs of descendents of Koguryŏ immigrants from Korea." and "The importation of Korea-style jewelry at this time implies [that]…the techniques of inlaying and inscribing also entered Japan in the fifth century. Once again it seems apparent that peninsular master metalworkers taught the native of the island their important skills.” (Farris, 1996: 13)"[4] Many of Japan's ancient artifacts are related to Korea, "Inariyama sword, as well as some other swords discovered in Japan, utilized the Korean “Idu” system of writing" the swords "originated in Paekche and that the kings named in their inscriptions represent Paekche kings rather than Japanese kings"[5][6] The denial of these facts in history was the beginning of the anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea. Howevre, I believe this article is full of original research and irrelevant materials. Please let me explain it.
The words "most historians" should not be used because you cannot tell who they are. Therfore it should be like "It is well known that Japan and Korea have had close relations throughout history."
The relationship is not a one-way relationship. Both countries have had influence on each other. When you use the word "throughout history", talking as is the relationship were a one-way relationship is not proper.
There is no supporting source for this sentence. When did Japan downplayed what? This sentence should be removed.
"Emperor Kammu's grandfather" is not accurate. Shoku Nihongi says that Emperor Kammu's mother was of Korean ancestory.
Emperor Kammu's mother has nothing to do with the bloking of the tombs. The source does not say anything about Emperor Kammu. Therefore, "accordingly" isn't properly used here.
Not only because the source is of DPRK, the early 1900s have nothing to do with the tombs or Emperor Kammu. This sentence is irrelevant.
Rumours are rumours.
Actually I still can't see why you need these sentences. Why do you need them?
There is no supporting source for this sentence. When did Japan deny the relationship between the two nations? It says the "facts" but what mentioned above have been disputed. They are not "facts" yet. Besides, there is no evidence that it was the beginning of the anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea. Therefore, this sentence has no source and should be removed. As a compromise, I made the sentences below.
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Others who are concerned with this issue, User:Kuebie, User:Objectiveye and User:KoreanSentry refused to talk and kept reverting without making any efforts to reach a compromise. Therefore, I strongly need other editors who are without anti-Japanese sentiment but with proper ability of think and judge.
Please come to Talk:Anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea.--Je suis tres fatigue (talk) 17:34, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
- Je suis tres fatigue (talk · contribs), it is highly unwise to resume the behaviors to lead you in trouble yesterday right after you got off the block. I made your comment collapsed with the template since it is too long and duplicated. You don't need to post the duplicated material here, linking "diff" or directing the page would be more than enough. Moreover, the excessive bold paragraphs rather distract editors to read or to understand what you're trying to say. None would bother to read such WP:TLDR writing in bold and capital letter which also are considered WP:UNCIVIL. Not to mention, it is worrying that your attempt to block your opponents with the bogus accusations[8][9] out of grudge to WP:AIV is disruptive. Wikipedia is not a WP:BATTLEFIELD. --Caspian blue 18:09, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Red Mango
The article Red Mango says it is HQed in Dallas. But I can't tell where the global HQ is by looking at the Global website. Is Red Mango really HQ'ed in the USA? Also, where is its Korean article? WhisperToMe (talk) 15:30, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
GA Nom for Mo Tae-Bum
I have nominated Mo Tae-Bum for GA, and as it falls under the scope of WP:KOREA I have notified you. If you wish to review it you may do so here. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 03:38, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Help with Anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea
I wonder if I am in the right place... Please read Talk:Anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea#Which do you think is better?. I'm currently having a discussion. I think my version is much better than the current one but there is an editor who objects my idea. I think we need more people to solve this issue. Please come help us improve the page by making it more nutral.--Seven-Year Child (talk) 08:31, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Help with Korean names of school districts
Hi! I need help with several Korean names of school districts in this thread Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language#Foreign_language_names_of_school_districts - Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 22:02, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I've created an article for this recently-deceased North Korean politician. Can someone more familiar with the situation -- and the language -- review the article, please? -- Karada (talk) 12:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Could someone please add cats/info to Christine Shin and her movies Janie / My Fake Husband?
This article, Christine Shin, appears to be about an up-and-coming Korean director. My Fake Husband is listed for AFD. All her related articles could use input and review from your project. Please flesh out her articles. --Morenooso (talk) 08:25, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
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Sennen goroshi's anti-Korean editings
User:Sennen goroshi, who has a long term problem with several Korean independence activists (Jang In-hwan, Yoon Bong-Gil, An Jung-geun and Kim Gu), List of Korean inventions and innovations and South Korea (Dokdo description) are edit their articles on his own. Editiors with neutral eyes will settle down the problem. I hope you can help improve the aritcles.--Historiographer (talk) 13:53, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- You want neutrality, so you put your message on WikiProject Korea? カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 14:02, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- Is this related?--Historiographer (talk) 14:03, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- Obviously, yes. カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 14:06, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- Judgment is often biased by each others interest.--Historiographer (talk) 12:54, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- Obviously, yes. カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 14:06, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- Is this related?--Historiographer (talk) 14:03, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Good Topic Time
I've started work (albeit am faaaar from complete) on a "Steel Manufacturers of South Korea" Good Topic. I will also be trying to get SK Telecom to GA. If anybody wishes to help, that would be most welcome. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs/Vote! 05:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Seeking 3rd party to help reach a consensus
I'd apprciate it if someone would give their opinions/thoughts on the current dispute in the Kim Gu article. http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Talk:Kim_Gu#Dishonesty
Regards. Akkies (talk) 05:18, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Chinese character redirects being speedily deleted
See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 April 15
As some Korean topics also use Hanja redirects, some may also get deleted in such a manner.
SeoulPodcast notability question
A user has raised a question about the SeoulPodcast w/u notability. Please see the discussion here for your thoughts on the issue. In sum:
The podcast has received coverage in two major Korean dailies and Korean broadcast tv. The podcast was sponsored by another Korean major daily. It was also mentioned by a US paper about the death of Michael White. These links are found within the w/u reference/see also sections. Crossmr contends SP's mentions are not the focus of the articles and the host has written for two of the sources and is friends with one of the reporters so he questions their independence. I counter argue any long time resident and notable writer in Korea is going to have op ed pieces published in all three of Korea's english dailies and will naturally be friends with many in the expat journalist community. That doesn't imply, however, the host of the SP has power over editorial coverage. Journalists do get legit story ideas from their friends. As well, the host is a jack of all trades who has about 3 major projects on the go so naturally there's not going to be deep coverage of one single project. In absolute terms, crossmr is probably right the coverage of the SP is not deep. However, in relative terms, given Korean media's narrow focus, the coverage SP has got is about as significant as it comes. Mindme (talk) 14:53, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Copyright on NK stamps
Hello, I'm trying to find out if I can upload a DPRK stamp from 1974 onto Commons. I posted a question there, but they couldn't tell. Anyone here knows it? Bye, Apdency (talk) 17:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
오이 General Oi
There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/General Oi about the article General Oi (오이). Comments from editors involved in this project would be welcome. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 09:00, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Need Help
South Korea – United States relations Some POV editor (WilliamWater) disrupting page by POV and original research. But, another user(Snowded) try to block all my edit, revert my edit. Becasue of theser two members team play, Even i can't point out what is the wrong edit. This annoying bad faith editor((Snowded)) stalking all my edit, and try to block me. Somebody watch this page. Two team play tag users ruin its page. 660gd4qo (talk) 18:47, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Dok Hyon Sunim
Could someone who speaks Korean please check the referencing etc on the BLP article Dok Hyon Sunim, thanks. Chzz ► 14:49, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
When was the women of Korea unveiled?
I have been told that women in old Korea, especially upper-class women, lived confided to their homes and was forced to cover themselwes with a veil if they left the house during the day. When did this end? And how? I have the impression that this was still the case in 1905, but not in 1945, is this correct? When could Korean upper-class women show themselwes on the streets of Seul without a veil? I have read a poem by a Korean woman, who describes how she is allowed out of the home for the first time: this was from 1920. I hope someone can answer, I would be grateful.--Aciram (talk) 13:25, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Women of the royal court
As upper-class women of old Korea was expected to live in seclusion, how was the role of women at court? Was the queens, the royal women and their lady-in-waitings excepted from seclusion, or were they also prevented from having contanct with men? I find this an interesting issue, but it is hard to find any clear information.--Aciram (talk) 16:14, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons
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Need help with History of Korea
Please read History of Korea#User:Kuebie's repeated reverting. A user named Kuebie, who never admits any information unfacourable to Korea, has been trying to remove the information below.
"As a result of this war (Sino-Japanese war), China, which had had an enormous influence on Korea for centuries, was forced to recognize the full and complete independence and autonomy of Korea."
There is no doubt that Joseon had been one of the tributaries of Qing Dynasty. Japan tried to cut the tributary relationship between the two countries and that was the aim of the first Sino-Japanese war. The Treaty of Shimonoseki, which was concluded between China and Japan in 1895 after the war, says "China recognizes definitively the full and complete independence and autonomy of Korea, and, in consequence, the payment of tribute and the performance of ceremonies and formalities by Korea to China, that are in derogation of such independence and autonomy, shall wholly cease for the future." Althought this treaty was the first step of Japan's ruling Korea, the Koreans at that time regarded the end of the tributary relationship as their independence from China and built the Independence Gate. But for this treaty, the tributary relationship would have continued and Japan would not have ruled Korea. This treat has a lot to do with history of Korea. Kuebie, however, never want to admit this fact and it is not possible to talk to him because he never even tries to understand what I say.
I am not saying Japan made Korea independent from China for the people of Korea. Japan only did so in order to hold the control of the peninsula. But Kuebie claims Korea had been an independent country and the Treaty has nothing to do with it. It is impossible to solve this argument between only him and me. I need some help to put an end to this discussion.--Seven-Year Child (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:00, 7 May 2010 (UTC).
cursive
FYI, there is a notice on WT:CHINA about a request at WP:WikiProject Writing systems about cursive and semicursive, and grass and running styles. 70.29.208.247 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:40, 8 May 2010 (UTC).
Hirohito
FYI, the naming of Hirohito is up for debate again, see Talk:Hirohito. As Hirohito was the , head of state dejure, for the period ending at VJ-day, this may be of interest to you. 70.29.208.247 (talk) 06:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Calligraphy: Request for article creation (stub or more)
Hello, I come to request the creation of Korean Calligraphy. This subject need a specific article, at least a stub. Korean calligraphy have its own masters and famous pieces, and its own focus on Hangul. Hangul request specific techniques, as circle, that East Asian Calligraphy doesn't need. Currently, just one sentence on East_Asian_calligraphy#Japanese_and_Korean_calligraphies. On wikipedia, I'm in charge of Chinese Calligraphy, but I'm neither familiar with Korean calligraphy, neither korean language. Accordingly, I just work on Chinese calligraphy side. For Korean calligraphy your help : research of sources, reading, writing, is really welcome. You can get some idea of outline on Chinese calligraphy & Japanese calligraphy. This Korean tradition need an article. Regards Yug (talk) 10:00, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Italics in citation templates
If you use {{citation}} or similar templates for citing sources, you may find {{asiantitle}} useful. You use it inside the "title" or "journal" parameter of the citation template so that the title of the work will be underlined, rather than set in oblique type (which makes hanja/hangul/etc. hard to read). It also lets you provide a romanisation and/or translation of the title. See Template:Asiantitle/doc for more details. Comments appreciated. Cheers, cab (talk) 06:17, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject East Asia
FYI, there is a proposal for a WikiProject on East Asia, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/East Asia
Coordinates needed
Hi folks, I am helping out the WP:COORD project and I can't seem to find any coordinates (latitude/longitude) for Kyung Hee Astronomical Observatory, probably because I can't read Hangul. If anyone can help out, that would be great!-- φ OnePt618Talk φ 07:09, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
- I speak some, but can't find the address/coordinates for the life of me. You'd need somebody more fluent. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 00:22, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
- I really want to thank Amble for figuring them out and posting them! Great job!-- φ OnePt618Talk φ 04:59, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
FYI, Category:Disambiguation pages with Chinese character titles has been nominated for deletion. 70.29.212.131 (talk) 04:24, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
FYI, Penal code of Korea has been nominated for deletion. Location (talk) 18:46, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
FYI, The auction case has been nominated for deletion. Location (talk) 18:46, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
The biography of this Korean violinist is currently unreferenced and there are notability concerns as well. I've searched and failed to find any reliable third party references, so wondered whether anyone over here might like to take an interest.--Plad2 (talk) 22:14, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
- Replied on the talk page. cab (talk) 01:13, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. Would have replied sooner if I had remembered to "watch" the page.--Plad2 (talk) 20:10, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Here's another BLP which needs attention. Body text and lists of work look significant enough. Lots of links in the article but the references listed are in Korean, which is possibly why it's got an "unreferenced" tag. Really needs someone with knowledge and language to sort out and wikify.--Plad2 (talk) 20:09, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
I cordially invite input from this project, please. Bridgeplayer (talk) 19:22, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Translation
Someone translate below the text to verify, please.
양곡과 피복 등을 빼돌려 약 9만여명이 추위와 배고픔,질병 등으로 사망했다.source
Google translation is below.[10]
Grain and cloth, and stole nearly 9 million people with a cold, hunger, disease, etc. were killed.
My translation is below.
Foods and clothes were embezzled, about 90,000 people died by hunger, cold and disease. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Syngmung (talk • contribs) 14:39, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- Now we are talking in Talk:Korean War.--Syngmung (talk) 14:56, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Transliteration needed
Hi,
could someone please transliterate the name of the Korean Uncyclopedia (백괴사전) added by this edit? Thanks. --Schuhpuppe (talk) 01:51, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Done. Cheers, cab (call) 02:01, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Kkoktu
Hello,
I have recently created an article about Kkoktu. Unfortunately, I do not know very well how articles baout Korea are organised, so the article is in orphan state. I am mentionned this here in case somebody could find it useful to link. Cheers! Rama (talk) 16:30, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Translation requested
Can someone verify that the sources used Girls'_Generation#Members actually verify the birthdates of these individuals. And if not, please remove them per WP:BLP. Thanks! Active Banana (talk) 15:59, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Romanization help
If it wouldn't be too much trouble, could someone romanize the text 히싱 for the page Hissing (manhwa)? Thanks! WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 20:48, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Historical context needed...
Right now I'm trying to add a Korean names to the article Third Battle of Seoul and I'm bit confused. 1·4 후퇴 literally means "January-Fourth Retreat" during the Korean War, but what is the exact scope of this retreat in Korean military history? From my own understanding after consulting Paik Sun-yup's memoir and ROK military's official history, the "January-Fourth Retreat" could be as large as the entire Chinese intervention from October 1950 to February 1951, or as small as the Seoul battle between January 1 to 5 in 1951, and anything in between. I would appreciate it if anyone can clear up this issue for me. Jim101 (talk) 06:00, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Gapung Station
Gapung Station is currently at AFD. Per TWP conventions, stations should be notable enough to sustain their own articles. Apparently there are sources in Korean, which would help assert notability. Is there a Korean-speaking editor who could assist by adding such sources please? Mjroots (talk) 04:41, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
15 August holiday
Although this is called Gwangbokjeol in the South, in the North I believe it's called ... er, what at one time would have been written as 祖国解放記念日. What would the latter be in hangul, or in whatever's the least undesirable romanization? Any other informed comments? Please chime in at Talk:Surrender of Japan#Celebrations. Thank you. -- Hoary (talk) 00:46, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Replied. Cheers, cab (call) 03:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Requested move discussion at Talk:Eulsa Treaty
Elmor (talk · contribs) has requested to move the title of Eulsa Treaty and Tenmei (talk · contribs) also rekindled the subject. Since the sensitive subject is about a matter between Korea and Japan in the early 20th century, your attention to the subject is appreciated for neutrality's sake. Thanks. --Caspian blue 03:49, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I saw this page is completely biased in beautified aspects. User:Finekim refuses to discuss about the problem rised in talk page. Your help is appreciated. Kwj2772 (talk) 15:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
KTX
Hey, if you have interesting of KTX article, Please leave comments at there.Talk:Korea_Train_Express#Move The Two Japanese users (Phoenix7777, Jpatokal. -not sure about two IDs are sock) pushing POV his own /silly/ short / strange reason. Their point of pushing is KTX is accidents trains by content forking. One User, Rontombontom (I believe he/she is close to NPOV than two) co-op with Japanese user Jpatokal. If you have interesting its topic, please participate in it. Ssyublyn (talk) 05:53, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just give them a dose of this and well I think they might have a heart attack. (Chunbum Park (talk) 07:47, 27 September 2010 (UTC))
Requested moved discussion at Talk:Kim Kwang-Seok
If anyone has the chance, this discussion would benefit from some more input from experienced editors. Thanks! PC78 (talk) 09:33, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Major proposed overhaul of Sea of Japan naming dispute
The article Sea of Japan naming dispute has been under full protection for about 1 month due to an edit war that occurred in August. Discussion on the talk page stalled at the end of August, and there are not many active participants on that page. Since that time, I have been working on a wholly new draft to fix, as best as I could, many of the numerous problems on the article. Since this article falls within the purview of this Wikiproject, I am inviting members to come participate in the discussion on the talk page at Sea of Japan naming dispute#Major overhaul, which explains the current articles deficiencies (poor sources, disorganized, etc.) and what I have done to fix them. In that section you will find a link to the draft version in my user space. While this article and its subject are clearly a contentious matter, I sincerely believe that we can create a useful and NPOV article about the subject through the careful involvement of more editors. Thank you for any help you can provide. Qwyrxian (talk) 10:30, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
AfD
I've nominated the page List of political parties in North Korea for deletion. I thought it would be courteous to notify the relevant WikiProjects. --Selket Talk 19:41, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Korean Name Infobox
I have a discussion with User:YumeChaser about Korean Name Infobox's. Is there a rule or guideline that says Hangul/Hanja has to be in the Musical Artist Infobox? Yume says it's common practice but it isn't sensible to have the same name in the article, Korean Name Infobox and the Musical Artist Infobox. So then what is the point of the Korean Name Infobox if the Hangul name is in the Musical Artist Infobox? 41.210.55.157 (talk) 01:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
- There's a difference between Hangul and Hanja. In the case of TVXQ, you were removing the Chinese from the infobox... on Japanese artist's, they include their kanji in the infobox (my example was Ayumi Hamasaki). I do not see why it should not be included as well, especially if the usage is common throughout other projects, let alone on Korean-related articles. The Korean name box displays the English romanization methods of Hangul, that's the reason why it exists. See Revised Romanization of Korean and McCune-Reischauer. oncamera(t) 02:56, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oncamera I am afraid you are wrong. The primary Infobox was built to have 1 name not 2. The Korean name Infobox is built for such names that is why it has a place for Hangul, Hanja, Revised Romanization and etc. You really shouldn't have names in different languages in the primary Infobox. Ayumi Hamasaki doesn not have a Korean name Infobox because it is Japanese, but even with that it's not suppose to have Japanese characters in the primary Infobox as well but it works because the Japanese characters don't have a Korean name Infobox.
especially if the usage is common throughout other projects - No it's not see other pages like Taeyang and Hyuna. 118.96.135.146 (talk) 09:19, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I created this article. If Korea also have its own frequency list, then please expand this article with korea-relate content.
FYI, Image:KimJongUn.jpg has been nominated for deletion. --76.66.200.95 (talk) 05:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Seo Hee Ham's blog
Could someone please check these websites? http://blog.daum.net/fighterham http://cafe.daum.net/FighterHam I'm not sure if any of them truly has a direct connection with her, but if one of them does, I'd like to add it to her Wikipedia article. Jfgslo (talk) 01:56, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
KITECH/urgent edit help needed
Some time ago, I created the KITECH article as a stub while editing the KTX article, because it seemed a fairly important research institute mentioned in many of my sources. However, it was beyond me to expand it, and no one else did, so it was now tagged for speedy deletion. Could someone help pre-empting that by adding the necessary secondary sources underlining its significance? --Rontombontom (talk) 15:39, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
I just noticed these things. Are they any use? Currently, they appear to be used for UBX abuse and misleading people about what their particular knowledge area is.
I think they should be deleted, since North Korea bans the internet, and as such, Wikipedia is not accessible.
List of political parties in North Korea
FYI, List of political parties in North Korea was redirected without being merged, however, examining the AFD discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of political parties in North Korea, I can't find a reason that supports such a closure. It seems like either a keep or a merge would be the appropriate outcome. In any event, it seems clear that atleast an AFD merge should occur.
Proper korean name
Hello. While creating the french article on Hwang Jang-yop, I've been left wondering why the links on Hwang Jang-Yop where all red before noticing the upper case Y in his last name. Could anyone correct it, if necessary ? Also, there's some concern over the proper hanja form in Talk:Hwang_Jang-yop. Thank you, Comte0 (talk) 23:52, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Alliance of Valiant Arms
The page Alliance of Valiant Arms has been nominated for deletion (by me) because currently it contains not sources that pass WP:RS, and I can't find any evidence of notability in English searches. In the AfD discussion, another editor commented that it may help to check Korean pages (a Google search turns up about 600,000 hits), as the game appears to be popular in Korea; however, since neither I nor the other editor can read Korean, we can't tell if the results we're getting are reliable sources, or if they're just press releases and/or self-published sources. If anyone has the inclination, please help look for reliable sources in Korean so that we can determine if this game meets the notability guidelines (either WP:GNG or WP:WEB). Thanks, Qwyrxian (talk) 21:51, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
"First/Second etc Republic of South Korea"
As the country is called ROK, it should be 1st Republic of Korea etc, shouldn't it. There are a lot of ROSKs all over the place. In Vietnamese, it is "Đệ nhất Cộng hòa Việt Nam" First Republic of Vietnam. Nobody calls it 1st Rep of SV (Rep of SV is wrong) and obviously not the informal "1st SV/SK" etc YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 01:30, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- The name of the country should be the Republic of Korea or South Korea. However, there are some articles like Second Republic of South Korea, where I think the historical terms First Republic, Second Republic, etc. are being used together with the descriptive phrase "of South Korea." In other words, these would not be names of the country or official titles, but historical terms for particular eras in the government of South Korea. Are these the articles you have in mind? Or are these terms used in other places where "South Korea" or "Republic of Korea" would be more appropriate? Thanks. --Amble (talk) 01:43, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I meant that sequence of 1 to 6. I'd have thought that "First Republic of Korea" was the way it was supposed to be as ROSV isn't the name of the country, so to speak YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 23:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- As I understand it, "First Republic" itself has no official standing (with respect to South Korea), it's just a historical term. And "of South Korea" is a descriptive phrase to distinguish it from other countries' first republics. So it's not First (Republic of South Korea) so much as (First Republic) of (South Korea). But since this is just a descriptive title rather than an official name, the current titles are by no means set in stone. --Amble (talk) 00:39, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I meant that sequence of 1 to 6. I'd have thought that "First Republic of Korea" was the way it was supposed to be as ROSV isn't the name of the country, so to speak YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 23:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Basic hanja for educational use
FYI Basic hanja for educational use has been prodded for deletion. 76.66.200.95 (talk) 05:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Requested move discussion at Talk:Jessica_(entertainer)#Move.3F
A user had requested to move the title of Jessica_(entertainer) to Jessica Jung. Since the sensitive subject is about first name vs. full name, your attention to the subject is appreciated for neutrality's sake. There are many other pages with last names in the title of the article please see Nicole Jung, Park Ji-yeon and Krystal Jung for examples. Jessica's Wikipedia article refers to her as Jessica Jung several times. Her full stage name is Jessica Jung and her own article addresses her as so. XemaLee (talk) 07:49, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- What is the name most commonly used in English sources? If there is an established usage of "Jessica Jung" as her common name in English, then that's what should be used. But if English sources mostly use "Jessica" only, then the first option should be used. It doesn't really matter how Korean sources refer to her as this is the English Wikipedia, unless there are not reliable sources in English. Also, for the article title it's not important how she is referred within the article, but what is her common English name (WP:UCN.) Jfgslo (talk) 15:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Actually it says "Articles are normally titled using the name which is most commonly used to refer to the subject of the article in English-language reliable sources. This includes usage in the sources used as references for the article." Normally' doesn't mean all the time. She is known as Jessica Jung in some articles not many.
- Note: If she isn't known as Jessica Jung that name should be removed from Wikipedia. XemaLee (talk) 15:37, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- No, "normally" in that context means that the name commonly used in English sources is the one that should be used in the title unless there is a good reason not to use the common name, such as it being ambiguous or inaccurate (see the Tsunami example), if it goes against some of the other policies/guidelines (such as MOS:TM) or if there is a consensus that determines to use another variant.
- In this case Jessica_(entertainer) actually falls in the problem or being ambiguous and inaccurate despite being the most commonly used form in English sources. The reason for this is that Jessica is a common name used by many other entertainers in the English world, therefore the title is misleading. Jessica Jung on the other hand, while not widely used, it's more accurate and less misleading because there is only one known entertainer that uses that name, so it is a good alternative for the article title. Without knowing much of the particulars of this case, I would suggest that, if "Jessica" is truly the more commonly used name and "Jessica Jung" is not truly used in reliable English sources, the article title should be "Jessica (South Korean entertainer)". That leaves out the ambiguity of the other title without relaying on forcing the Jung part. Jfgslo (talk) 17:21, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Japan-Korea Treaty of 1905
There is an archived discussion thread about changing the name of Eulsa Treaty to another name.
Summarizing the so-called discussion which began at Talk:Eulsa Treaty in early August here:
- A. In an attempt to help us start discussion, options were proposed here and refined here.
- Leave it at its current name?
- To Japan-Korea Protectorate Treaty?
- To Japan-Korea Treaty of 1905?
- To 1905 Protectorate Treaty?
- Or what?; see the second paragraph of page Eulsa Treaty.
- B. Valentim presented the results of a Lexis/Nexis search here. This supplements several Google searches.
In the many weeks of so-called discussion thread development, those opposing the move have either been unwilling or unable to present refutation or counterargument; and therefore, I propose we delay no longer.
In other words, I suggest that there is a consensus to act now on the basis of the Lexis-Nexis search outcome. The time has come for this article to be renamed Japan-Korea Treaty of 1905. If not, why not? --Tenmei (talk) 20:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Hirohito, rename, again
FYI, Hirohito has again been nominated for renaming, see Talk:Hirohito. As Hirohito was the head of state for Korea, then part of Japan, for the period ending VJ-day, I thought I'd let you know 76.66.203.138 (talk) 13:31, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Photography in Korea
I've just created Category:Photography in Korea. I tried hard to populate it, but could find very little. If I'm missing the obvious, please add it. If somebody feels inspired to write more articles on photography in Korea, so much the better. -- Hoary (talk) 14:40, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Precise translation?
Can a Korean-speaker please confirm/correct the precise meaning of the following much-quoted statement by Lee Hae Chan, made on 2005-01-14 (source):
| “경부고속철도 사업을 대표적인 정책실패 사례로 연구 분석하라고 국무조정실에 지시했다. 매년 수천억 원의 적자가 나게 생겼다. 수요예측을 잘못했거나 고의로 부풀린 것으로 생각된다” |
My reading is: "The launch of KTX was a classic example of a policy failure which the Office for Government Policy Coordination was ordered to analyse. There are annual deficits in the billions. The forecast was wrong or exaggerated on purpose." Is this anywhere near correct? In particular, the prime minister was not talking about a political failure, was he? As for the political context: at the end, is he putting the blame on a prior administration? --Rontombontom (talk) 15:50, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
my name (genus, pedigree, clan)
Hello, I would like to learn about their ancestry, my name Kang, my genus Chibi Kang, or Debi gan Thanks in advance ```` ~ ~ ~ ~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanigvv (talk • contribs) 01:06, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
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