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Requested move at Talk:The New York Times Crossword#Requested move 5 June 2024
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:The New York Times Crossword#Requested move 5 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Chinese whispers § Requested move 15 August 2024
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You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Chinese whispers § Requested move 15 August 2024. Levivich (talk) 23:47, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Magic: The Gathering
editMagic: The Gathering has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 16:16, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
"Theme" category problem started by Category:Games by genre or theme
editI just found that. Ouch. First, any categories that merge two concepts in the name are problematic and should be split. There is no parent level category for "by genre or theme". There is no Category:Works by theme or Category:Themes. This is just in the Category:Works by genre and Category:Works by topic . It is the only cross-polluting them category (there is no other topic category in works by genre, and vice versa).
So, solution one is to rename all instances of 'theme' introduced by this to 'topic' (as theme does not have a category structureI did find one more error (use of theme at a high level) in Category:Novels by theme, forunately that one also has not spread elsewhere; it sits in Category:Fiction books by topic and obviously merits a simple renaming to Category:Category:Novels by topic). ). Fortunately, this issue hasn't spread far down the category tree:
- A) Category:Games by genre or theme -> Category:Games by genre or topic
- B) Category:Board games by genre or theme -> Category:Board games by genre or topic
- C) Category:Role-playing games by genre or theme -> Category:Role-playing games by genre or topic
- D) Category:Video games by theme -> Video games by topic
- E) Category:Novels by theme -> Category:Novels by topic (here, merge)
More complex is to consider what to do with the three existing 'genre or theme' categories (games, board games, rpgs). We should probably do what has been done with all other cats for media, closest here is the video game split (Category:Video games by genre and Category:Video games by theme; it exists for all other media ex. Category:Films by genre and Category:Films by topic, or Category:Comics by genre and Category:Comics by topic).
Comparing what we have in the board game and rpg categories with what exists in video games/films/comics/etc. it seems what we have is a 'by topic (theme)' split. I'd therefore suggest renaming the three or categories by removing 'by genre' and changing 'theme' to 'topic'. Here's the solution two, with no prejduce to creating Category:Games by genre, Category:Board games by genre and Category:Role-playing games by genre at some later point. I.e. this would mean:
- A) Category:Games by genre or theme -> Category:Games by topic
- B) Category:Board games by genre or theme -> Category:Board games by topic
- C) Category:Role-playing games by genre or theme -> Category:Role-playing games by topic
- D) Category:Video games by theme -> Video games by topic
- E) Category:Novels by theme -> Category:Novels by topic (here, merge)
I'll link to this discussion from some related WikiProjects and CfD. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- PS. I started the least controversial (if anything here is controversial, which I hope it is not...) renaming CfD already for Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_December_27#Category:Novels_by_theme. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- A comment: within video games, "genres" refer to gameplay aspects rather than narrative theme. So just going to make these cats "by topic" seems to be the better solution. — Masem (t) 06:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Masem I think this can make sense for board games too (not sure about RPGs). Category:Educational board games and Category:Party board games would be genre, given Category:Educational video games and Category:Party video games are under Category:Video games by genre. Possibly Category:Board wargames and Category:Word board games might be 'genre' and not 'topic/theme' (there are no VG equivalent for these, AFAIT: Category:Video wargames and Category:Word video games). Everything else there seems like 'topic/theme' (sf, fantasy, sport, race, etc.). Not sure about Category:Children's board games (Category:Children's video games was deleted long ago, but I am not sure I'd agree with that rationale). Btw, there is no VG equivalent for Category:Race games? The latter two issues might be worth bringing up at VG project, perhaps? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:36, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- In terms of "race games", as best I know that outside of board game adaptions into video games, no game uses "first to the end" as a victory condition, outside of course racing games (though this should not be conflated with a race game in the board game space).
In general, I don't we should try to find a nice equivalancy between video game and board game genres, outside of clear and obvious cases like for role-playing games since they were heavily inspired by D&D — Masem (t) 02:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- In terms of "race games", as best I know that outside of board game adaptions into video games, no game uses "first to the end" as a victory condition, outside of course racing games (though this should not be conflated with a race game in the board game space).
- @Masem I think this can make sense for board games too (not sure about RPGs). Category:Educational board games and Category:Party board games would be genre, given Category:Educational video games and Category:Party video games are under Category:Video games by genre. Possibly Category:Board wargames and Category:Word board games might be 'genre' and not 'topic/theme' (there are no VG equivalent for these, AFAIT: Category:Video wargames and Category:Word video games). Everything else there seems like 'topic/theme' (sf, fantasy, sport, race, etc.). Not sure about Category:Children's board games (Category:Children's video games was deleted long ago, but I am not sure I'd agree with that rationale). Btw, there is no VG equivalent for Category:Race games? The latter two issues might be worth bringing up at VG project, perhaps? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:36, 28 December 2024 (UTC)