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Reference for Name for Drag Race Germany...

Drag Race Deutschland has been registered with the German Trademark Office by World of Wonder [1] is this a good reference for the series name over on the Franchise page?Naraht (talk) 04:58, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

For Mexico, the patent is for it as Drag Race Mexico (no accented E) [2] but the translation into Spanish does have it. DRAG RACE MEXICO vs. CARRERA DRAG MÉXICO . The fandom site also has a link from Brasil, but I can't bring up the website.Naraht (talk) 05:19, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Well for Germany, someone did add it on franchise page but then removed. If Mexico's reference is in the page, then it's no problem to add Germany's reference. — JuanGLP (talk) 11:26, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm extremely late to the party, but I've been keeping an eye out on German sources and still not any info about a name. In case I drop off editing again for a few more months, here are a few reliable German/Austrian sites that might yield some info if/when it starts trickling out: Queer.de Mannschaft.com (these two are queer-oriented sites kinda like Out.com) derStandard.de Berliner Zeitung (these are more formal news publications) Tajaditas^(talk) 06:52, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

@Tajaditas, thank you for being on the look out for the name of the German adaptation! I will also be on the lookout for the Mexican adaptation. — JuanGLP (talk) 02:49, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Vivacious

Back in 2019, the article about Vivacious was deleted. I've recently asked for restoration so the entry can be expanded and possibly taken live again at some point in the future. You can view the draft at Draft:Vivacious (drag queen).

Project members are invited to make improvements. However, please do not move the draft into main space prematurely. Thank you! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:30, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Loosey LaDuca

New article: Loosey LaDuca ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:20, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Luxx Noir London

I created a draft for Luxx Noir London, project members are invited to improve it! — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 17:26, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Like Let us know if you copy or move the draft into main space! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:25, 11 April 2023 (UTC) I'm expanded the draft a bit more and moved the page into main space. I hope that's ok. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:44, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Drag Couenne

New stub: Drag Couenne ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:09, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Protection for RuPaul's Drag Race (season 15)

I requested protection for RPDR:S15 based on the number of vandals this morning and got a 2 day semi-protection. Not sure this needs to be announced here, but be ready Friday morning when it expires.Naraht (talk) 14:11, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Winners.

I believe, that with the new creation of Drag Couenne, that all queens who have won a season of a Drag Race Franchise show have pages. I'm simply going to assume that the project will always do so. :) Naraht (talk) 14:18, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Mistress Isabelle Brooks

New stub: Mistress Isabelle Brooks ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:22, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Anetra

New stub: Anetra ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:55, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Salina EsTitties

New stub for Salina EsTitties ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:49, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Image for Drag Race Sverige?

Resolved

Anyone able to add a title card or promotional artwork to the infobox at Drag Race Sverige? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Added logo! — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 13:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:09, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Month suggestion?

Jorgeous

Would anyone like to suggest a Collaboration of the Month for April? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:33, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I am thinking DRES Season 3, maybe the winner of DRBE (which is next week), or anything. — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 17:00, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I vote for DRES3 in May. I've gone ahead and selected Jorgeous for April. Improvements welcome! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:19, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

JuanGLP, I've added Drag Race España (season 3) to the queue for May -- thanks for the suggestion! Looking forward to another season. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:11, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Alrighty! Thank you for the update! — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 02:05, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Redirect proposal

Xilhouete has been cast in a Filipino movie "Here Comes the Groom" (a *massive* body switch movie, think Freaky Friday on Steroids) as such, I checked to see where she was otherwise mentioned. I noted that as a RPDR Philippines queen, her redirect is to Drag Race Philippines *not* to Drag Race Philippines (season 1). My proposal is that when a Season 1 is forked from the National Drag Race article (presumably due to the announcement of Season 2) that all queens that are redirects from the National Drag article be moved to Season 1.Naraht (talk) 15:44, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

I believed whenever a DR series is renewed or casting call is announced (for a season 2), we always forked season 1 to its own page and re-redirect the S1 contestants to the S1 article. Though I believe this time that one of the editors forgot to re-redirect the S1 contestants to the S1 articles (for the Philippines). If you would like to move them, then go ahead. 😊 — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 16:26, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Moved them. Also created a few more redirects. The season had 3 queens where there drag name was XYZ ABC, but they went by XYZ on the show. Both XYZ and XYZ ABC should be made into redirects.13:40, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Drag Isn't Dangerous

The telethon, Drag Isn't Dangerous, would it be considered to be included in this Wikiproject? It does involve many drag queens from Drag Race, and we know they have close connection with PEG. — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 02:11, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm comfortable including the WikiProject Drag Race banner given sources like "RuPaul's Drag Race winners and queer icons unite for telethon combatting anti-drag politics". I've updated the talk page. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:23, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Alrighty! Thank you very much! — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 02:48, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

DRES3 question.

The text for DRES3 includes the following. "Contestants in the season included The Switch Drag Race alumni Pakita and Clover Bish, ". While I can find Pakita on The Switch season 2 (she was the Porkchop of the season), I can't find Clover Bish on either season 1 or season 2. Was there a season 3, did she participate under another name or something else?Naraht (talk) 13:17, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

I think it was a typo, who ever wrote that. And I know that there wasn't a season three of The Switch, since they were cancelled after S2. And if she did participated, check her social media, contestants always put that they participated in a contest on their bio. — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 14:09, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

I think the sentence was just written in a way which suggested both appeared on The Switch. Hopefully these minor changes help to reduce confusion a bit. Glad you pointed this out! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:17, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Marcia Marcia Marcia

New stub: Marcia Marcia Marcia! — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 13:30, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

(FranchE.C.C) Unfortunately, this boils down to "Only claim to notability is finishing 7th on a season of RPDR", which as far as I can tell equals immediate return to redirect.Naraht (talk) 14:17, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

ok :( FranchE.C.C (talk) 16:03, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

FranchE.C.C} (Hug) I know you did a lot of work, and I don't want to lose it. I'm curious as to the opinion of the other regulars here and am looking for consensus even if a consensus develops to keep. And with the abilities you showed in making that, I'm sure you'll find other articles to create and improve.Naraht (talk) 01:23, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I am not very expert in this because I am Spanish speaking, but I will try to improve my articles in English. FranchE.C.C (talk) 02:26, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

The article has been redirected. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:39, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars (season 8)

We learned last night, May 12 brings RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars (season 8)

I assume we'll know the competing queens soon! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:52, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

The queens have been announced:

• https://ew.com/tv/rupauls-drag-race-all-stars-8-cast-promo-looks/

I've added Template:RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars and Category:RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars contestants to all bios. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:09, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Lolita Banana

Lolita Banana

New stub: Lolita Banana ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:11, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Cherry Valentine, Featured article candidate

JuanGLP and I have co-nominated Cherry Valentine for Featured article status:

• Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cherry Valentine/archive1

Wish us luck! :p

Last call for any article improvements. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:38, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Can't wait! 🎉 — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 14:42, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Does anyone know if the memorial concert took place in November? I found some sources announcing the concert, but I don't see any reporting on the event itself. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:59, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

There are videos of many Drag Race UK contestants performing for the concert. I found one from Gay Times: https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/life/drag-race-uk-stars-honour-cherry-valentine-in-heartfelt-memorial-concert/. I found a video of Anubis performing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pjHY6uHT14. — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 15:10, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! Updating the article now. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:30, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

 ! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:18, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Congrats! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 12:38, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:51, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

WikiProject Drag

From @Another Believer,

"If I were to create WikiProject Drag, would you join? I should note, Wikipedia has WikiProject Drag Race, but this project seeks to improve coverage of one specific drag franchise. WikiProject Drag would apply to a much larger collection of entries."

If you editors are interested, please join the discussion so we can start the project! — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 17:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

List of lip syncs?

Over at Talk:Drag Race discography, I've asked about the possibility of forking out List of Drag Race lip syncs. To me, Discographies are music created by artists, and the list is getting quite long. Project members are invited to share thoughts at Talk:Drag Race discography.

Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

There's some agreement to remove the lip syncs from the discography. So, I've moved the lip syncs content to Draft:List of Drag Race lip syncs. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:51, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

I've moved the list into the main space so editors can continue to expand, discuss, delete, whatever, etc. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:25, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Welp, that didn't take long...

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Drag Race lip syncs

---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:18, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Deleted. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 15:03, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Angeria Paris VanMicheals

Angeria Paris VanMichaels

New stub: Angeria Paris VanMicheals

---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:39, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

@Jose Machado Q: Might you be interested in adding Filmography tables for Angeria Paris VanMicheals? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:17, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Daya Betty

Daya Betty

New stub: Daya Betty

Improvements welcome! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:13, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

@Jose Machado Q: Might you be interested in adding Filmography tables for Daya Betty? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:18, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Orion Story

Orion Story

New stub: Orion Story

---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:24, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

@Jose Machado Q: Might you be interested in adding Filmography tables for Orion Story? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:18, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

DeJa Skye

New stub: DeJa Skye

---Another Believer _(Talk) 05:08, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

@Jose Machado Q: Might you be interested in adding Filmography tables for DeJa Skye? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:18, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Aura Mayari

Aura Mayari

New stub: Aura Mayari

---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:34, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

@Jose Machado Q: Might you be interested in adding Filmography tables for Aura Mayari? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:19, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Templates nominated for deletion

• Template:Drag Race Belgique
• Template:Drag Race Sverige
• Template:RuPaul's Secret Celebrity Drag Race

---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:10, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

+ Template:Frock Destroyers ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:36, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm bummed to see Woodensuperman gutting so many templates. I found them so helpful. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:12, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Helpful is not the same as encyclopedic. I'm "bummed" to see you ignoring all the guidelines. --woodensuperman 14:16, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Sorry but your reasoning does not make sense to me. You keep gutting content because you think people are "already celebrities" when in some cases their appearances on the shows are what make them notable. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:21, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Appearing in the first instance of a show can be what makes them notable. However, that cannot be claimed for their appearances on subsequent related shows. And we're making an exception to WP:PERFNAV for that first appearance anyway. --woodensuperman 14:26, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

I found the templates helpful because of the crossover amongst franchises by some contestants. In my opinion, you're being too aggressive and not listening to the editors who create and use these templates, but I'll move on to other things if no one else is bothered by your changes. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:31, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

We're back to WP:FANCRUFT again. The minutiae that you find helpful doesn't make for a good encyclopedia. That's why we have guidelines. It might be "WP:USEFUL" to Star Trek fans (as an example) to link to every Star Trek actor in {{Star Trek}}, but there's a reason WP:PERFNAV exists. --woodensuperman 14:34, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Agree to disagree. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:46, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Vivacious

Vivacious

Last call for improvements to Draft:Vivacious (drag queen)! Another editor has submitted for review at AfC. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:09, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Month

Drag Race España (season 3) is the Collaboration of the Month for May 2023. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 05:13, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Xilhouete

New stub: Xilhouete ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:01, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

The Macarena

New stub: The Macarena (drag queen) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:54, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Translated to eswiki MiguelAlanCS (talk) 21:47, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Maxi Shield

Maxi Shield

New stub: Maxi Shield

---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:11, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Molly Poppinz

Molly Poppinz

New stub: Molly Poppinz

---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:19, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Loosey LaDuca

Loosey LaDuca

I've nominated Loosey LaDuca for Good article status.

Last call for improvements before the review gets started. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:27, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Mistress Isabelle Brooks

Mistress Isabelle Brooks

I've also nominated Mistress Isabelle Brooks for Good status. Last call for improvements! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:40, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Katya template creation?

What do you think of creating a template for Katya? — JuanGLP (talk) 18:48, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm fine with everything other than possibly the "background=solo singer", I'm not sure why that was chosen, she appears to be more notable in at least two other areas more significantly than singing. It also would be a very asymmetric Template, in that most of the pages in the template would not be appropriate to have the template including in that page (I don't think for example, that this template belongs on the RPDR:AS3 page)Naraht (talk) 14:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@Naraht, yeah that AS3 mistake was from me (lol). But what other articles should I include? — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 07:09, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

I think with the recent templates being deleted, I think it is best to not create one, yet, for Katya. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 15:05, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Agree ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:06, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Untucked!

Since we do have two adaptations of Untucked (with DRSV coming up), would that be considered as a franchise? Technically there's four adaptations:

• RuPaul's Drag Race: Untucked
• RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars: Untucked
• Drag Race Philippines: Untucked
• Drag Race Sverige: Untucked

Should we add headlines (with info) based on the adaptations onto its origin? — JuanGLP (talk) 18:56, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Added the adaptation info onto RuPaul's Drag Race: Untucked. Removed the All Stars: Untucked part to its origin. — JuanGLP (talk) 02:14, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Related: Reinas al Rescate

I stumbled upon the draft article for Reinas al Rescate. I've moved the page into main space and added a "Related" field at Template:Drag Race España. Please feel free to improve the article! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:42, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Added template to page! — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 23:36, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:37, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Tied to its spanish wikipedia equivalent in wikidata. Also, from looking at the page of the company that produces the show (https://www.atresplayer.com/programas/reinas-al-rescate/) , there appears to be a sixth episode: José Antonio, in Campaspero. My spanish is almost non-existant, does anyone know spanish?Naraht (talk) 14:17, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Drag Race Universe streaming channel

World of Wonder partnered with Blue Ant Media, to create a channel dedicated to the Drag Race franchise. It is available to Vizio, and Variety covered the story.

Sources:
https://wegotthiscovered.com/news/binge-watching-rupauls-drag-race-just-got-a-lot-easier-with-the-new-drag-race-universe-channel/
https://worldofwonder.net/world-of-wonder-blue-ant-medias-free-drag-race-universe-channel-launches-for-american-audiences/
https://variety.com/2023/tv/entertainment-industry/drag-race-universe-channel-america-rupaul-1235491733/

— JuanGLP (talk) 16:50, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Having a quick read, its not the exclusive home of drag race in the US and is a carrier for previously aired content. All of its programming has previously aired on other channels or WOWPlus. At this moment in time, I'm not overly keen on more than a passing mention. Its akin to a TV channel airing repeats of a programme previously aired on another channel >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 17:02, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Source: https://variety.com/2023/global/news/drag-race-universe-fast-channel-amazon-freevee-1235568957/

DR Universe is set to launch on Amazon Freevee. — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 16:39, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

@Another Believer, do you think we should add info about Drag Race Universe onto the franchise's article, and have the name redirected to the franchise? — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 17:03, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@JuanGLP I support adding mention of Drag Race Universe at RuPaul's Drag Race, per the Variety source, and redirecting Drag Race Universe to there for now. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:06, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Another Believer, would it be better to adding it to the franchise article than the US version? — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 17:08, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Oh, right! Yes. Actually, might be worth mentioning Drag Race Universe at all of the applicable franchise articles (Canada's Drag Race, etc). Seems like basic production/broadcast info to me. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:11, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes! Since they are broadcasting the international adaptations in the US. Currently redirecting the DRU article to the franchise. — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 17:13, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

"High" and "Low" placement in progress table in season 15.

Hi all. I just saw that the progress table for Season 15 is including HIGH and LOW placements, which according to past discussions, we're not using. I removed them, but I guess we're gonna have to keep watch on the templates for progress tables, and perhaps restrict them during the season. Not A Superhero (talk) 07:04, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

To the bunch of snobs who had a "consensus" to remove the high and low placements... We don't like you. Mightbeaquarian (talk) 00:08, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

BAHAHA! This literally made my day! LMAOOO, I know this isn't professional but HAHAAHA. The reason why we (not me) removed the HIGH and LOW placements is for people who have a disability, such as blindness or color-blindness. And I know that I don't like this method but it is simple, and I leave it be. If you don't like this way, discuss it on Wikipedia, make a statement on why you don't like it. If you can't do it, then there's always another plan: WikiFandom.. :)

— JuanGLP (talk) 00:20, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Respectfully, if "we" want to accommodate those with vision disabilities then why can't we just use other web colors or at the very least use the HIGH and LOW tiles without colors? Accommodation should not mean erasure of data LOL. Also, your logic doesn't really make sense considering The Switch Drag Race and Drag Race Thailand use other colored tiles on their scoreboards. If y'all like it the way you like it then just say that, instead of hiding behind this random excuse. cmilette (talk) 17:13, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

@Cmilette, @Mightbeaquarian, @Not A Superhero, if you want to discuss about a possibility of changing the color codes from the contestants' progress; please talk to the people who were involved from this discussion. — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 17:02, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Adding note.

Whenever we create a new article for a constestant, we should add this: {{efn|McGoldrick uses [[she (pronoun)|she/her]] and [[singular they|they/them]] pronouns in drag. This article uses she/her pronouns for consistency.}}

To know what I am talking about, look over on Jax (drag queen). This can be used on other contestants. — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 17:28, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

But the note is not quite right, so I've made some changes. Happy to discuss further on the article's talk page. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:35, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Another Believer, I have just seen it and it is perfect. 😊 Also, I have a suggestion! We should add this to any drag queen who uses the she/her pronouns while in drag. It may be helpful for the readers. — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 02:21, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

The vast majority of drag queens use she/her pronouns while in drag, but sometimes notes are helpful for flagging to readers why the entry sometimes switches between "he", "she", or "they". To me, what's most important is noting preferred pronouns while out of drag. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:30, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Yup! — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 18:45, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

In Drag

Have we had any queens to use they/them (or he/him?) *in* drag? (And we've had a *wide* variety of out of drag, from those that would be surprised if anyone used she/her when out of drag to those who transitioned not long after the show)Naraht (talk) 18:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm not aware of any contestants who use they/them or he/him in drag. Pressure is mounting for a drag king to be featured on the show. All in good time, I'm sure. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:48, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

I believe Miss Fame uses they/them pronouns in drag or out..? https://www.out.com/celebs/2020/2/24/drag-races-miss-fame-use-theythem-pronouns — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 19:02, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Drag Race:Svierge (Sweden)

Conflict in name of the Drag Queen. It appears that most of the usages are Elecktra (with a c &k), but the redirect is Elektra (drag queen) Is the DR:S page correct or the redirect?Naraht (talk) 19:08, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

I've converted Elektra (drag queen) into a disambiguation page. You can expand Elecktra (drag queen), if you think there's enough coverage. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:12, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Added Elecktra Bionic the winner of DR:Italian Season 1 to the disambig page. And this was so that I could interlanguage link to the page on sv.wiki and wanted to get everything straight. :)Naraht (talk) 19:25, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I've added Elecktra Bionic to the disambiguation page per your suggestion. Can I go ahead and archive this discussion as resolved? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:47, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

I think we collided on our adds, but otherwise resolved.Naraht (talk) 13:18, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Photographs from RuPaul's DragCon LA 2023

Time to start categorizing images!

• commons:Category:RuPaul's DragCon LA 2023

---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:25, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

@MiguelAlanCS: Thanks for uploading some many images. I hope you might be able to help us identify the queens and categorize appropriately. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:34, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Im doing it :) MiguelAlanCS (talk) 14:35, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Like Wonderful, thanks for your help! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:46, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

I've created subcategories for some of the queens I was able to identify quickly. I'll continue as I have more time. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:56, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

I watched some videos from YouTube to identify the queens... I'm exhausted :P MiguelAlanCS (talk) 21:47, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

@MiguelAlanCS: I just came across this today. Very helpful! Thanks for your continued work here. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:41, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Clover Bish

Clover Bish

I have recently created the Clover Bish article on the Spanish Wikipedia (es), in case anyone here is interested in translating it. Peridotito (talk) 08:31, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Like ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:25, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Created draft article from Clover Bish, just needs citations. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 19:41, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll add the page to my watchlist. Do you think you'll have time to work on Gala Varo, Margaret Y Ya, or Regina Voce this month? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:52, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Update: Clover Bish now in the main space ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:24, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Archiving since page is up. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 15:52, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Drag Race Mexico

Regina Voce

I know that I promised another Wikipedia editor that as soon as there was (X) information on DR:M that I'd move it to mainspace (may have been JuanGLP), I see that it has been moved and given the additional information in the last few days, I don't think I'll have to do that myself :). My honest guess is that we'll be seeing the list of queens out within the month.Naraht (talk) 17:45, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Can't wait! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:02, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

I can wait! We got info and the logo, we might expect the RuVeal after Drag Con. ¡Viva México! — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 15:56, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

The queens have been confirmed:

• https://ew.com/tv/drag-race-mexico-season-1-cast/

I've created redirects for all, which can be found here:

• Category:Drag Race México

I'm sure someone will create a table for Drag Race México very soon. Looking forward to the premiere! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:14, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

YESSSSSSSSS! LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 18:23, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Created the subcategory Category:Drag Race México contestants. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:19, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Gala Varo

Gala Varo may qualify for an entry, since she also competed in season 2 of La Más Draga. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:18, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Including Margaret Y Ya, she also competed in season 1 of La Más Draga. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 18:24, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

@JuanGLP Good to know, thanks! I'll try to create stubs soon, unless someone beats me to the punch. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:25, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

I WILL! lol — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 18:26, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

@JuanGLP Like Yes, please! Will be good to see pages for Gala Varo, Margaret Y Ya, Regina Voce and the Drag Race España contestants mentioned below as you have time. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:30, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes I am currently doing Draft:Hugáceo Crujiente. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 18:32, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks. I was able to at least get stubs with construction tags up for Gala Varo and Margaret Y Ya, too. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:19, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Regina Voce

Regina Voce may qualify for an entry, since she also competed in season 1 of Queen of the Universe. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:17, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

@Another Believer, created draft article for Draft:Regina Voce. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 18:47, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

No need to work in the draft space so I've copied over the infobox. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:54, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Categories nominated for deletion

• Category:Canada's Drag Race: Canada vs. the World contestants
• Category:RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars contestants
• Category:RuPaul's Drag Race: UK vs. the World contestants

---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Last call for comments here. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:58, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Sorry to see Category:RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars contestants deleted. This category made sense to me since not all contestants had previously appeared on the American version of the show. Oh well...? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:33, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Category for judges?

Would a category like Category:Drag Race (franchise) judges be helpful? Curious what project members and User:Woodensuperman (given recent category and template deletion nominations) think. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:27, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

No, this would still be a WP:PERFCAT. To quote the guideline: Avoid categorizing performers by [...] performance—even for permanent or recurring roles—in any specific radio, television, film, or theatrical production --woodensuperman 15:32, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

I think Category:Judges in American reality television series would be okay though, just not by specific production. --woodensuperman 15:48, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Related article about Opulence and drag in Japan

Found this interesting, thought other project members might enjoy:

• https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2023/05/26/stage/opulence-drag/

---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Update: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2023/06/13/stage/opulence-glitter-lot-gold/

---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:43, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Pakita

Pakita

New stub: Pakita ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:40, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Month: June 2023

¡Hola hola hola! Time to select another Collaboration of the Month.

I was thinking we might do something different this month. Normally, a single article is selected. For June, I propose the following: Las reinas de Drag Race México: Gala Varo, Margaret Y Ya, y Regina Voce. This way, we can expand three short entries related to the new show. User:JuanGLP, User:MiguelAlanCS, does this interest you, or do you have any other suggestions? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:21, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Not us celebrating the Hispanic/Latin Heritage Month that early! (Also, just in time for Pride Month!) Yes, this does interest me. We can include the Spanish queens (if @MiguelAlanCS is interested). I will start with Regina Voce. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 15:26, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

I certainly have no problem with improving entries for the Spanish queens, too, but for the sake of focus I have added 'Las reinas de Drag Race México' to Wikipedia:WikiProject Drag Race/Collaboration of the Month for June. Looking forward! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:36, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps "Las reinas de Drag Race España" could be the Collaboration of the Month for July? Would be a nice follow-up to this month's collaboration for DR México. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:36, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Though we have Drag Race Brasil, though it might premiere in August. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 15:56, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

We can pencil Brazil in for August, then! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:17, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Last call for improvements to Gala Varo, Margaret Y Ya, y Regina Voce! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:11, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

France, season 2

The queens have been announced:

• https://www.pride.com/drag-queens/drag-race-france-season-2

---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:39, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

I've created redirects for the contestants and Drag Race France (season 2) is now a stub. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:45, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Change Redirects

The redirects for the dr fr s1 queens need to be changed from going from dr fr to dr fr s1. (Doing this from phone) Naraht (talk) 13:38, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Done.Naraht (talk) 20:53, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:00, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Dimension 20

See also: Dimension 20

Featuring Drag Race queens:

• https://www.pride.com/geek/dimension-20#rebelltitem1

---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:37, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Fashion Photo RuView

I saw someone started Draft:Fashion Photo RuView, if any project members are interested in improving. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:29, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Drag Race España

We are creating some articles from the DRE queens. I hope they are translated here. MiguelAlanCS (talk) 21:50, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

@MiguelAlanCS: Thanks for the heads up. Here are some of the links I found, but feel free to share others.

• es:Ariel Rec  Done (Ariel Rec)
• es:Jota Carajota  Done (Jota Carajota)
• es:Onyx (drag queen)
• es:Samantha Ballentines

Hopefully some of these can be translated to English Wikipedia soon. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:38, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

See new stub: Jota Carajota ---Another Believer _(Talk) 05:06, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Current status

With the addition of Jota Carajota, there are now seven articles in Category:Drag Race España contestants (including two in its subcat the winners) and sixteen in es:Categoría:Participantes de Drag Race España. (which doesn't split out winners)Naraht (talk) 11:57, 23 May 2023 (UTC) That's about all I'm going to be able to help here, If there was a Template:User es-(barely able to order at the Mexican Restaurant), I'd use it.Naraht (talk) 13:03, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

@Naraht, don't worry! I will be translating them! (Spanish-speaker over here!) — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 13:12, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Like Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:24, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Canada

We can expect season 4 + Canada vs. the World season 2:

• https://www.bellmedia.ca/the-lede/press/bell-media-announces-2023-24-original-programming-slate/

---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:05, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Ariel Rec

Ariel Rec

New stub: Ariel Rec.

Improvements welcome! --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:55, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Shangela controvery..

A crew member from the series, We're Here, filed a lawsuit on drag queen, Shangela.

• Pink News
• Deadline
• People

So..? — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 16:58, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

If PN and People magazine are covering it, then I'm fine with adding it. Probably a separate section of the article though.Naraht (talk) 17:40, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Renovated

Hi!

I decided to bold and updated the page, for easy accessible to users who are in or planning to join the WikiProject. I added a WP:Invitation template, if you decided to invite someone to the WikiProject. (Also I have updated the userbox.) Under WP:RPDR/Editing, I added potential topics from the franchise, so they can be reassessed from a "stub" to a "C" or "B". WP:RPDR/Showcase will included recognized content, thanks to @Another Believer, we have another featured article! Dedicated to Cherry Valentine. I also want to add the DYKs recoginiton to the page, but I do not know how to. Thanks!

— JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 20:56, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Tyra Sanchez

• https://ew.com/tv/rupauls-drag-race-season-2-winner-tyra-sanchez-arrested-resisting-police-officer/
• https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/06/12/drag-race-winner-tyra-sanchez-arrested-florida/
• https://www.advocate.com/crime/rupauls-drag-race-winner-tyra-sanchez-arrested-over-alleged-assault

---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:41, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Mini-challenge prize: Immunity

For Drag Race Sverige, the Mini-challenge prize was immunity in the main challenge. I remember that occuring in RPDR, but I think it has been a few seasons. Should that be marked differently in the progress table?Naraht (talk) 14:01, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I feel it should be marked on the contestant progress, since the shows do state the contestants having immunity. Though if we add it, how would it look like? — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 15:42, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Green(allowed by the color blindness rules?) with IMMU? The only two seasons that I can find with normal mentions of Immunity are Seasons 2 & 5. Season 14 would also probably be part of it as DelaSkye for being the least bad in Snatch Game was immune from LaLaPaRUza. (Yes, she won with Lil Jon, but it still won't make anyone's list of best 20 lipsyncs)Naraht (talk) 21:24, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Maybe discuss with the people who were involved with the accessibility discussion, they might help out. — JuanGLP (talk + contribs) 15:12, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Novem Linguae, Thijslandsmeer, RandomCanadian, Armadillopteryx, Isaidnoway (Adding those who I think were in the accessibility discussion). For adding that a queen due to a prior (either mini- or maxi- challenge) win is immune from Lipsyncing, is the addition of a Green IMMU allowed? It appears that none of the current blocks are in green, but I don't know if that is due to color blindness concerns. From the standpoint of provability, I believe this can be shown rather than guessed. Suggestions welcome.Naraht (talk) 14:44, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

@Naraht: May I archive this discussion? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:49, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Sure. No answers, but sure.Naraht (talk) 20:03, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Marina Summers

Marina Summers

New bio! Marina Summers ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:01, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Wanted: infobox, filmography table, discography table ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:55, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Improvements needed: Kandy Ho

I've moved Kandy Ho back into the main space, but more improvements are needed. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:01, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Kimora Amour

Kimora Amour

New article: Kimora Amour

Thanks, user:Bearcat!

---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:06, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Down Under (Season 3)

DR:Down Under released a teaser with a MTQs. The article for the third season is up with the contestants redirects, except for a queen named, Flor (who competed in House of Drag). Thank you! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 00:58, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Oh, wow!, so many seasons to follow around the globe now. Thanks for getting pages going! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:10, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Order of all seasons?

Does it make sense to have *anything* (Not even sure what page, I guess Franchise) to keep track of the order of the Seasons among all of the Franchises? For example, right now, the only way to tell that during 2022 DR:FR S1 occured before DR:IT S2 is to look at the individual pages.Naraht (talk) 13:17, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

I don't know if the page would be kept longterm (the list of lip-syncs was just deleted), but you could always try creating something like Drag Race timeline with bulleted list or table which puts a sequence together. I think you'd need to demonstrate how a timeline is helpful from a Wikipedia perspective. Just my initial thought! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:37, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

@Naraht: OK if I archive this section? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:39, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

sure Naraht (talk) 16:41, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Month: Las reinas de Drag Race España

Estrella Xtravaganza

Juriji der Klee

Venedita Von Däsh

The collaboration of the month for July is Las reinas de Drag Race España. Taking from a discussion above, here's a list of contestants with entries at Spanish Wikipedia but not ENWP:

• Bestiah
• Chanel Anorex
• Diamante Merybrown
• Dovima Nurmi  Done
  • Dovima Nurmi
• Drag Chuchi
• Drag Vulcano
• Estrella Xtravaganza  Done
• Hornella Góngora
• Hugáceo Crujiente
  • Draft:Hugáceo Crujiente
• Inti  Done
  • Inti (drag queen)
• Juriji der Klee  Done
• Kelly Roller
• María Edilia
• Marina
• Marisa Prisa
• Onyx
• Pink Chadora
• Sagittaria (drag queen)
• Samantha Ballentines
• Vania Vainilla
• Venedita Von Däsh  Done
• Visa

Hoping this project might be able to create a few new entries for qualifying queens. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:08, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Last week for the challenge to create new bios for Drag Race España queens! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:39, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Estrella Xtravaganza

New stub at Estrella Xtravaganza ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:44, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Juriji der Klee

New stub at Juriji der Klee ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:41, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

We can continue the "der" vs. "Der" discussion on the article's Talk page. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:55, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Done. Talk:Juriji der Klee.Naraht (talk) 17:17, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Venedita Von Däsh

New stub at Venedita Von Däsh ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Drag-a-thon

Drag-a-thon is tangentially related to this project, but figured I'd share and invite others to collaborate, if interested. The drag show, which seeks to set a Guinness World Record, features Eureka, LaLa Ri, and Peppermint. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:24, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

We're Here update

• https://ew.com/tv/were-here-season-4-replacing-drag-race-queen-cohosts/

We're Here will feature Sasha Velour, Jaida Essence Hall, and Priyanka

---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:52, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Philippines Season 2

Looks like we have the list of Queens for Philippines Season 2. Redirects should be created. And we have probably the *most* bizarre name for a Queen (and possibly most problematic for Redirects): ØV CÜNT , who (according to the ew article with the information is participating as <nobreak>ØV C--T</nobreak>. So I guess we make a redirect under that (anyone what the rules are for hyphens vs. dashes in article names?) And I'm presuming the initial character is the letter that exists in Norwegian, etc. But I have no idea if we would sort that with O or after Z.Naraht (talk) 17:10, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done Redirects created ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:09, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Related discussion at Talk:Drag_Race_Philippines_(season_2)#ØV_CÜNT_censorship ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:46, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Heyhey!

Hi everyone! After working on so many Drag Race articles, I finally got around to joining some WikiProjects and discovered this was a thing!

This doesn’t contribute to anything, so apologies if this clogs up anything/is disallowed. Cornmazes (talk) 02:25, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Welcome! I hope you find this a helpful space for asking questions, sharing updates, collaborating with other editors, etc. I think you'll find this project is more active than most WikiProjects on Wikipedia. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:29, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

That’s good! I’m currently working a lot of things for the Drag Race girls, including translating articles (currently working on Inti (drag queen)), updating queens’ discographies, and scourging webseries such as Maddy Morphosis’ "Give It To Me Straight" and Joseph Shephard’s "EXPOSED" for more info to share. Cornmazes (talk) 02:35, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Irene Dubois

Irene Dubois

Irene Dubois was redirected back in January. I've moved the page to Draft:Irene Dubois for future development and hopefully a return to the main space. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:34, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Cherry Valentine: Today's featured article

Cherry Valentine will be featured on the Main page as 'Today's featured article' on August 14:

• Wikipedia:Today's featured article/August 14, 2023

---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:52, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Wow, the article was seen almost 100,000 times! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:01, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

That's impressive! Congratulations on this—I know you put a ton of work into the article, and it shows! Glad it's getting recognition :-) Armadillopteryx 00:25, 16 August 2023 (UTC)