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Fleet lists (defunct airlines)

(Elements of this topic may apply to both current and defunct airline pages)

I am concerned at the apparent lack of consistency in Fleet lists. There are up to a dozen specific issues I could discuss, but if I am alone in this matter there is not much point in me laying them all out right now. Here are just two examples for starters;

Example 1

Trans Global International^(*) former fleet

Aircraft	Total	Introduced	Retired	Notes
BAC One-Eleven Series 300	1	1972	1974
BAC One-Eleven Series 500	3	1973	1977

If the above table represented the entire airline fleet history, then noting both types separately may offer some insight into the airlines development. Plus it makes the table look better than having a single entry. But in fact the above is just an excerpt of a much longer table that includes over 20 different types, in total covering a much longer time period, and mostly featuring larger numbers e.g. 18 Airbus A320, plus 34 Boeing 737s. At this point I see splitting these BAC-1-11 sub-types becomes an exercise in pure accuracy at the expense of overall clarity. In such cases I would rather see a single total of four BAC-1-11s (all series), more closely reflecting the lower impact these four aircraft had on the overall history of the airline.

(Info) BAC-1-11 300 series are 93.5 ft (28.5 m) long to accommodate up to 89 seats with a single overwing exit per side The later -500 series are 107 ft (33 m) long to accommodate up to 119 seats with two overwing exits. i.e. different, but not outstandingly significant.

Example 2

Trans Global International^(*) final fleet at bankruptcy

Aircraft	In service	Orders	Passengers			Notes
			C	Y	Total
Airbus A319-100	11	—	—	138	138
			—	144	144
Airbus A320-200	7	—	22	102	124
			20	108	128
			—	162	162

Is there any real benefit in knowing that some A319s offer 144 seats whilst others (how many?) offer six less seats? To me this is minor detail that obscures the main data. There may be some merit in showing that some of their A320s offered Business-class, but the split in this case into three sub-types is surely too much. And then there is the question as to why does this table have seat numbers, but no introduction dates?

(*) Trans Global is a made-up name, however the table in example 2 is 100% genuine.

Note; WP:ALFC offers a basic table format for current fleet types, without illustrating any of the complications such as those I have listed above. It also states 'Fleet age information should not be included', which is rather unfortunate.

Note 2; I may have posted this article in entirely the wrong section - oh well, c'est la vie!

WendlingCrusader (talk) 18:11, 17 April 2024 (UTC)