Wikipedia talk:Toolserver

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Paine Ellsworth in topic Notes

centralized place where we could discuss the importance of the toolserver

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So, I made this as a centralized place where we could discuss the importance of the toolserver, specifically to the english wikipedia. I personally think a toolserver is pretty much vital at this point, and if the current one has either technical or political reasons for being unreliable some sort of workaround needs to occur. Ideally that would mean a toolserver colocated with the main cluster. I don't know if this is the best place to start talking about it, but I think it should be discussed, and from asking a few other people there seems to be interest. - cohesion 00:55, 16 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Well, the toolserver is used by many different languages, most especially english and german, so this probably belongs somewhere on meta (eg. nearby m:Toolserver) (we can talk about the importance to enwiki, but it's also pretty important to the commons, etc). And discussions have traditionally been carried out on the mailing list or on IRC, but discussions could take place on meta too. --Interiot 01:11, 16 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
I understand that the toolserver is used by all the other projects, but I think having the conversation on irc or the listserv or even on meta leads to only a few people being aware of it. I wanted to get a better understanding of how it is used on enwiki here, because I think, due to its use in smaller communities, its easy to forget how other groups are using it. I'm definitely not opposed to the discussion on future directions happening there though, but a list of how we are using the toolserver on enwiki, I think belongs here. I also think that any discussion of future directions would be aided by a wider understanding of how we are currently using it. - cohesion 02:25, 16 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
Not a lot of trafic on the toolserver list though. I just joined it myself. First message I got was one sayign that Gmaxwell have root access to the toolserver now, wich is good I guess. Dunno if the admins have to do something at the Wikipedia end to make the replication work again though. --Sherool (talk) 14:31, 17 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, very good news about Gmaxwell, and I'm sure given some time the toolserver will be fine, I still think we should have some list of where we are using it though, on enwiki, and this seems like an ideal place. I don't know if the page should stay an essay for this though, if anyone wants to rework the page into a more factual list without my pov whining feel free :) I might in a couple days if no one does. Does anyone else even think a list would be helpful? - cohesion 18:20, 17 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Wikipetition

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We, the undersigners of this petition, hereby ask the administrators of the Wikimedia Deutschland toolserver to let User:Interiot fix the current incompatibility with enwiki_p.

  1. My editcountitis is too advanced to live without an edit counter! --M@thwiz2020 14:36, 17 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
  2. Ditto. Johntex\talk 23:44, 19 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
  3. The toolserver serves some very important functions, so yes please! Ziggurat 01:58, 20 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
  4. Agree! Restore toolserver access to enwiki! Kimchi.sg | talk 09:10, 20 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
  5. There are a number of useful tools on the toolserver (including the easier-to-use prod tool), and there's certainly potential for more. -- Mithent 11:51, 20 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
  6. The current situation demonstrates that a top-down approach to developing tools is not responsive enough to meet the needs of Wikipedia. —Doug Bell talkcontrib 17:44, 20 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
  7. Lets get it fixed! --Darth Deskana (talk page) 08:36, 21 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
  8. Would love for CatScan to work again. Absolutely necessary tool for Wikipedia:WikiProject Dinosaurs.--Firsfron 12:10, 4 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
  9. We have to get this fixed as soon as possible! --Siva1979Talk to me 15:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
  10. Fixen der Tools... or something. Sheep81 15:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
  11. Fix!Fix!Fix!Fix! Jayant,17 Years, Indiacontribs 10:08, 5 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
  12. It's a great asset, fix it!Dinoguy2 13:33, 5 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
  13. Yeah, try and revie all this --Robdurbar 15:56, 18 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
  14. Petitions are as evil as polls, but looking for content-specific nominations on WP:PROD without the toolserver's log is a royal PITA. –Abe Dashiell (t/c) 16:17, 18 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
  15. Wir brauchen es doch schnell, bitte! Ballista 03:23, 28 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
  16. Sure. -- King of 21:33, 29 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
  17. Sehr sehr wichtig! --Liface 17:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
  18. Yeah, and make this page a bit more noticeable. How is anyone supposed to FIND this dam petition? --Mark J 14:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
  19. Old poll, but please. Someone fix it. I'd get an account if it'd be worthwhile. — Madman bum and angel (talkdesk) 23:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia:Community Portal

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I think it is important that we get this sorted out so these tools will be up and running again. I have posted a notice about this situation at Wikipedia:Community Portal. Johntex\talk 00:34, 20 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hmm, I never really intended this to be similar to a petition, what I really thought we needed was a place to see how various projects are using the toolserver. I think the developers and other's working on it will get this situation sorted out, I don't think any of them think we don't need a toolserver, which is somewhat implied in a petition. I guess what I mean to say is, I think everyone involved is motivated with or without a petition. This page was created after the toolserver went down, but not to bring it back up as much as act as an ongoing resource about its usage. When the toolserver is back up and running (something I have no doubt will occur) I think this page will still be useful, its purpose isn't predicated on the toolserver being down. - cohesion 06:25, 21 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
I removed a lot of the front page, I think what I wrote was being misinterpreted, I don't know what (if anything) should go there. The goal was mainly the listing, which could serve to make all the uses of the toolserver more clear. If someone has any ideas about other things that would be useful, anything not specific to enwiki though should probably go to m:Toolserver. For the people signing the petition, I wouldn't worry about it not coming back :) Everyone likes it for their own special reasons, this page was just to list them all together so we would all like it even more, ha :) - cohesion 06:44, 21 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
Double Hmm, I got the impression that pressure needed to be built in order to get this resolved. I got that impression because Gmaxwell said things like: The developers moved enwiki without warning me, maybe they'll fix this someday, but I don't have much hope because the Asian cluster move never got fixed,... (not an exact quote). As long as everything is on the way to being fixed, that is fine by me. Johntex\talk 06:51, 21 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
Gmaxwell is now an administrator of the toolserver. I'm probably the wrong one to ask on this because I don't have all the details, but from what I do know I wouldn't worry about it not coming back. Maybe Gmaxwell or Interiot will offer some more info, but even if they don't I think it's ok. Anyway, I do like the idea of a toolserver etc, but I don't think it's really in jeopardy. I do still think a listing of uses would be helpful though, but I also don't want people to think they shouldn't edit Wikipedia:Toolserver, of course everyone should :) - cohesion 17:48, 21 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Current status?

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Anyone know where to find news on the toolserver's current status? I cannot get to CatScan or find any up-to-date information on the ts, even at its main page or on mwiki. Her Pegship (tis herself) 19:32, 3 February 2008 (UTC)Reply


Can this tool [1] work with other projects? --92.4.46.117 (talk) 15:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Estimated time of restoration

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Hi

I understand that there may be some work being done on the toolserver database. Is there an estimated time of return to normal service? Chaosdruid (talk) 05:30, 8 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

502 error

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I've been getting a 502 error since morning. Any idea why? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:07, 22 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

People are running bots on the web servers and the memory slayer and query killer seems to be dead. — Dispenser 12:55, 22 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
Several tools are not loading now. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 08:07, 23 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
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Can anyone help me reactivate my account?

Link 1 Link 2

Thanks. --Gibmetal 77talk 11:54, 30 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Estimated time of restoration?

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Hi guys—the Signpost was ready to publish, appallingly late this week, and we found the toolserver down. Ed, the editor in chief, is about to turn in for the night. Any idea when it might be back humming again? Tony (talk) 04:13, 29 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

See Wikipedia_talk:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Index#WP_1.0_bot_temporarily_down_2012-8-7 - hahnchen 12:47, 29 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Types of tools

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Is there a page that lists the types of tools available and what they do? AIRcorn (talk) 22:13, 18 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Continuing Toolserver operations after move to Labs

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I recall reading somewhere that the Toolserver would continue to operate—but in a limited fashion—after all the tools where moved over to Wikimmedia Labs. This was going to be for users that could not more their tools for one reason or another. I've searched and cannot find it anywhere, so I'm not adding to the page yet. If anybody can confirm or refute that, it would be helpful. Thanks. 64.40.54.100 (talk) 07:38, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Tools down?

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So, the tools are not working. Not found (404) errors when attempts to launch. Are we at sea without a rudder or simply in a transition from Toolserver to Wikilabs? Geoff Who, me? 01:35, 16 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Toolserver down?

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I haven't been able to load any page on Toolserver since at least the last day or so. Is it down? What is happening? Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 17:20, 9 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Same problem today. I only get "504 Gateway Time-out" or "502 Bad Gateway" errors.
--92.146.173.37 (talk) 15:17, 12 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Likewise. Furius (talk) 10:09, 9 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
Same problem here. Does anyone have any idea what's going on? –Prototime (talk · contribs) 17:26, 9 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Snottywong's tools

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These tools have ceased to function, giving an error message "403: User account expired. The page you requested is hosted by the Toolserver user snottywong, whose account has expired." User:snottywong has has responded to inquiries by directing people to User:Σ;s version of the tools. However I see on their Talk page that User:Σ said that they won't be enabling any version of the tools. Too bad, as these were very useful resources. - LuckyLouie (talk) 16:18, 9 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

I've got a Toolserver account but the directory is protected: Directory /home/snottywong: permission denied.
If only we had the source code we would be able to publish it on the Wikimedia Labs. JackPotte (talk) 21:33, 9 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
I have no clue how all this works, but couldn't snottywong first renew his expired account then transfer that account to another editor who is inclined to support the tools? - LuckyLouie (talk) 01:35, 10 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
He could give that to us by entering chmod -R 777 on the Toolserver. JackPotte (talk) 19:14, 10 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
Info here and here. - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:53, 10 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, so I'll at least copy this directory on the Labs this week-end, and let you know. JackPotte (talk) 06:53, 15 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

  Done Finally I could get some results after having changed the URL and database settings during one hour: http://tools.wmflabs.org/jackbot/snottywong/cgi-bin/patrolreport.cgi. JackPotte (talk) 22:24, 16 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Fabulous. Thanks you! Any chance of resurrecting the rest? - LuckyLouie (talk) 22:59, 16 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
OK, I think I get it: change the front end of the url and voila: [2] - LuckyLouie (talk) 23:51, 16 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Toolserver is over?

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Hi ,is Toolserver shut indefinetely?--Yacatisma (talk) 10:40, 1 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Yes it is. According to http://toolserver.org/%7Edispenser/cgi-bin/webreflinks.py
  • "As of July 1, the community run Toolserver was shut down. My tools weren't aligned with the Wikimedia Foundation's priorities, so they didn't make the transition to Labs."
I will really miss toolserver's Reflinks tool, accessible via this version of {{Cleanup-bare URLs}}:
Toolserver's Reflinks tool made it easy to improve and articles references. If anyone knows of an alternative, please reply. 72.244.200.166 (talk) 07:47, 2 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Table of Toolserver tools now replaced by WMFlabs tools

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Considering that we all keep clicking toolserver links and getting "Sorry...", it might be a good idea to expand and transclude the following table to Wikipedia:Toolserver and Wikipedia:Wikimedia Labs:

Link: Wikipedia:Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver replacements

Extended content
Name Toolserver Wmflabs replacement
(or other tool)
Notes
Admin score tool tools:~snottywong/adminscore.html toollabs:jackbot/snottywong/adminscore.html
toollabs:apersonbot/aadminscore/
For the jackbot version, as the complete counter systematically times out, it only calculates five of 11 criteria.
Admin stats tools:~vvv/adminstats.php toollabs:xtools/adminstats/
Blockrange calculator tools:~chm/blockcalc.php toollabs:blockcalc/
Alternate tool: Template:Blockcalc
Automatically redirects.
Citegen tools:~citegen/
CheckUsage tools:~daniel/WikiSense/CheckUsage.php toollabs:wikisense/CheckUsage.php Redirects to an RIP message stating the tool is defunct and will not be recreated.
Dablinks tools:~dispenser/view/Dablinks http://dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/view/Dablinks Used on Template:DYK tools
Toolserver account blocked Aug 27, 2014[1]
Dab solver tools:~dispenser/view/Dab_solver http://dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/view/Dab_solver Toolserver account blocked Aug 27, 2014[1]
Duplication detector tools:~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/ toollabs:dupdet/ Maintainer Dcoetzee was banned from Wikimedia.
Tool is still accessible and functional (Dec 12, 2014).
Earwig's Copyvio Detector tools:~earwig/copyvios toollabs:copyvios Automatically redirects.
FIST tools:~magnus/fist.php toollabs:fist/fist.php Automatically redirects.
Flickr2Commons (Bryan's) tools:~bryan/flickr/upload
Flickr2Commons tools:~magnus/flickr2commons.php toollabs:flickr2commons/
Interaction analyzer and Stalker tools:~snottywong/editorinteract.html
tools:~mzmcbride/stalker/
toollabs:sigma/editorinteract.py
Log actions tools:~dungodung/cgi-bin/recentlogs? toollabs:rightstool/cgi-bin/recentlogs From the RfA toolbox
Meta rights log tools:~dungodung/cgi-bin/rightslogsearch? toollabs:rightstool/cgi-bin/rightslogsearch From the RfA toolbox
NAC of AfD's tools:~snottywong/cgi-bin/afdadminstats.cgi? https://tools.wmflabs.org/jackbot/snottywong/cgi-bin/afdadminstats.cgi? From the RfA toolbox
New page patrol report tools:~snottywong/cgi-bin/patrolreport.cgi toollabs:jackbot/snottywong/cgi-bin/patrolreport.cgi
Reflinks tools:~dispenser/view/Reflinks See here for status updates. Toolserver account blocked Aug 27, 2014[1]
Shootme tools:~magnus/wikishootme/ toollabs:wikishootme//index.html Automatically redirects.
Show redirects only tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/rdcheck.py/ http://dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/rdcheck.py Link on Special:WhatLinksHere, redirects to a connection timed out message. Toolserver account blocked Aug 27, 2014[1]
Sortable article history tools:~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php toollabs:xtools/articleinfo/ Automatically redirects.
User rights tools:~dungodung/cgi-bin/userrights? toollabs:rightstool/cgi-bin/userrights
Can be handled by the link at the bottom of the user contribs link:
http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&limit=1
From the RfA toolbox
Watcher tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/watcher.py http://dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/view/Watcher
The "Page information" link in the sidebar box titled "tools" handles this.
Labs missing required database views

Toolserver account blocked Aug 27, 2014[1]

Webchecklinks tools:~dispenser/view/Checklinks http://dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/view/Checklinks Used on Template:DYK tools
Automatically redirects

Toolserver account blocked Aug 27, 2014[1]

Other replacements

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A replacement for http://stats.grok.se/ can now be found at https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/.

Notes

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Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:23, 2 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Now added to see also section of this project page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:45, 3 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Why are some of the links broken? See Template talk:Afd2#Stats link has changed where Auric has noted the link breakage and has requested a fix. – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 16:15, 4 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
FYI: The stats link in the Afd2 template has been repaired and returned to the template. Thank you very much, JackPotte! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 15:36, 7 August 2014 (UTC)Reply