Wikipedia talk:Edit warring/Archives/2012/October

removal of biased material -- is it permitted or not

Based on a personal experience a couple of months back, I am concerned that this portion of the guidelines either is written in a misleading fashion or was misapplied to me. See links [1] [2] and [3] William Jockusch (talk) 03:43, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

You'll need to explain why you think it's misleading and what wording you'd like to see. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 09:39, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Well, the first issue is that I wasn't given that chance. I was simply blocked, without any chance to explain that. William Jockusch (talk) 19:14, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Here [[4]] is another article that raises many of the same issues. It's the inevitable wiki article about the left-wing attack meme of the week. As left-wing editors are the majority around here, any attempt to put sanity into the article will quickly run afoul of 3RR until a few weeks later, when no one will care about the article any more. By enforcing the 3RR rules in the way that has been done, the admins are ensuring that Wikipedia will always have a highly biased article promoting the latest left-wing attack meme.William Jockusch (talk) 19:14, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Now that is an attack. Don't do it again. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:17, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

But realistic, sadly. Take a look at the article. William Jockusch (talk) 20:16, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

If that's your interpretation, you're guaranteed not to be satisfied here. But if you look closely, you'll discover that lots of people on the left think right-wing editors are the majority around here, while a similar population on the right think left-wing editors are the majority around here. All that's irrelevant. If you perceive a left-wing or right-wing bias in an article, you are not immune from our policies; if you run into opposition while trying to change an article, you must attempt to gain consensus on the article talk page; if you cannot do that, you certainly cannot simply attempt to continue changing the article to satisfy your editorial stance. So, no, you cannot claim a 3RR exception for "removal of biased material"; as it says right near the top of WP:Edit warring, However, editing from a slanted point of view, general insertion or removal of material, or other good-faith changes are not considered vandalism. --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 20:59, 26 October 2012 (UTC)