Wikipedia talk:Categorization/Naming

Choosing appropriate names for categories

It seems important to me that Article names and Category names be as appropriate (i.e. as recognizable) as possible, and that Article names and corresponding Category names be reasonably consistent with each other. However it does not appear to be widely understood how to search Wikipedia for existing Category names. I attempted to explain that here, but my edit was reverted. The naming of articles and the naming of categories have a lot in common as regards considerations such as being recognizable and consistent — and how to research the most appropriate naming. I have linked to discussions on this under recognizable and consistent above, and welcome comments. LittleBen (talk) 11:39, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Accents/diacritics in category names

There are a lot of debates going on now about accents/diacritics in article titles. What are people's thoughts on the use of accents in category names? while I support accents/diacritics in Article titles, redirects don't work as well for categories, so I think there's a fair argument to not having diacritics or accents in category names for english wp. What do others think? --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 21:08, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

• It is often easy to find which rendering of a word or name is most searched for, by using Google Insights for Search like this (note: sports category) or like this. Since articles are unlikely to be read if people don't find them when they search, this is surely one of the strongest WP:COMMONSENSE reasons for generally not using diacritics in English Wikipedia article titles. Google doesn't index Wikipedia redirects, so switching to diacritics in an article title (when most searches are without diacritics) is likely to make an article drop in Google's rankings. Google can still deduce that an unaccented name is likely to be the same as an accented name from the context of many articles, but using a little-searched-for accented name in an article title is likely to cause the article to drop in search rankings. If it's not found then it won't be read.
• These tennis examples come from discussions related to tennis articles here and here. The issue of diacritics is still controversial, and discussion is still continuing. Please add your comment about the problems with diacritics and Categories. It is unfortunate that some Wikipedia politicians are trying to get all people who oppose diacritics banned.
• This is why I think that knowledge of Internet research techniques should be a critical part of making verifiable, neutral POV, commonsense decisions—about which article title is most appropriate, and whether diacritics should be used in article titles, for example.
• (Here I tried to add links to make the importance of research and the "how" (process) clear, but was repeatedly reverted. See also my post in the section above.)
• I think it is not very clever to force editors to use foreign names in article titles, as most editors do not have the multilingual research skills to get such names right. LittleBen (talk) 07:17, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the above comments have to do with category names, which is what I'm asking about, not article titles.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect shortcuts

These shortcuts are for article naming, not category naming. Dpleibovitz (talk) 17:02, 17 August 2013 (UTC)