Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways/Assessment/A-Class Review/Ontario Highway 61

Ontario Highway 61

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Passed with 3 net support votes (3 support, 0 oppose). —Scott5114 ↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 03:31, 13 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Featured article candidates/Ontario Highway 61/archive1

Suggestion: Promote to A-Class

Nominator's comments: Highway 61 is an important historical highway near Thunder Bay, connecting to the northern end of Minnesota State Highway 61 towards Duluth. The highway and its corresponding international crossing were originally built without government approval or funding, providing the only road-access at the time to the Thunder Bay region of the province. I believe this article covers the important history and other facets of this route and therefore merits promotion to A-Class.

Nominated by: Floydian ^τ _¢ 20:34, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First comment occurred: 22:34, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Review by Rschen7754

I will review this article. --Rs chen 7754 22:34, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Not sure the use of italics is okay under MOS.

Infobox

Map? --Rs chen 7754 04:35, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just added - Floydian ^τ _¢ 00:29, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References, RJL

No issues.

Route description

Passes... the customs station?
The second paragraph is entirely unsourced.
Should Annual Average Daily Traffic be capitalized?

History

What is a bush trail?
and so was chosen... don't need so
comma after "as far as the river"
federal - American? or Canadian?
This bypass opened on November 1, 1963 - needs semicolon after
approach... was rebuilt?
Recent years - use a more absolute term. --Rs chen 7754 05:57, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There doesn't seem to be a link for the buildings themselves, nonetheless I've clarified.
Fixed
Probably not... in Government, Everything Is capitalized Incorrectly. Fixed.

A trail through the wild bushes! I suppose "bushes" is bush slang for wilderness.
Fixed
Fixed
Both
Done
Fixed
Clarified.

-- Floydian ^τ _¢ 00:25, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support issues resolved. --Rs chen 7754 00:32, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Review by Dough4872

I will review this article after Rschen. Dough 48 72 00:40, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

Couldn't the Lake Superior Circle Tour be listed in the infobox using the tourist routes parameter?
The clause "Highway 61 begins at the international border between Ontario and Minnesota, the Pigeon River" needs to be reworded as it sounds awkward.
The article seems to contradict itself as to whether Highway 130 currently intersects Highway 61. The route description says that it doesn't but the junction list and the Highway 130 article says that it does.
Do you have the specific locations where the highest and lowest traffic volumes are?
"Minnesota State authorities", shouldn't "State" be lowercase here? I might suggest rewording "the Cook County and Minnesota State authorities" to "Cook County and the State of Minnesota".
"Following its completion, Highway 61 was rerouted along it as far north as Arthur Street.", when was this expressway completed?
Does Highway 61B still exist or has it been decommissioned? The article isn't clear on this.
"Between 2010 and 2012, Highway 61 was improved considerably within Thunder Bay", what improvements were done?
The last two sentences of the history are out of chronological order. Dough 48 72 01:36, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't even aware of that param, thanks! :)
- Does Canada use the standard marker for the Lake Superior Circle Tour? If so, it can be added here. Dough 48 72 01:42, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Not from what I can tell. I've Google Streetview'd the entire highway and see no shields. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 22:33, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed and fixed
Yeah I messed that up in the RD the other day thinking 130 was removed in '97/'98. All fixed
The article already provides it. The lowest volume is closest to the border and the highest volume is right at the northern terminus. I've updated the figures however.
Done
I haven't been able to find any secondary source confirming the date. However, as far as I can tell, it was partially opened in late 1968 - at which point 61 was routed onto it and the downtown route became 61B - and the remainder opened in the fall of 1970. Unfortunately the primary source doesn't give me specific enough information to know.
- If an exact date can't be found, you can use "by fall 1970" here to give the earliest possible date it was known this road was completed. Dough 48 72 01:42, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I think you mean "by late 1970", fall is a different time of year in Australia. --Rs chen 7754 02:11, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't the national ties of the article preclude it from that possibility, just as a question? - Floydian ^τ _¢ 05:48, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's actually in MOS. --Rs chen 7754 05:49, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It no longer exists, but I'm not sure when this happened. It shows up in the mileage tables up to 1989, but is still labelled on the official map into the mid-90s. My sheet listing the big highway downloads in 97/98 doesn't list it. I believe it became a Connecting Link around 1990 and so it was still signed until 97/98 but wasn't listed in the schedule of provincial highways... but that's only speculation partially backed by the informative SPS website for Ontario highways. I'll at least add some information to mention that by 1999 it was gone.
By the looks of the contract, it basically amounts to a repaving and restriping; not even worthy of a mention. I've removed the sentence.
Fixed by above.

-- Floydian ^τ _¢ 19:27, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Article looks good now. Dough 48 72 04:13, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Review by Evad37

Review

Lead

"It connects the Pigeon River Bridge, where it..." – avoid using 'it' twice in the same sentence
"...the Scott Highway" – why the italics?

Route description

"Continuing north, the highway swerves east..." doesn't sound right. Maybe separate the directions, ie "The highway swerves east ... and then continues north..."
"The northernmost section in Thunder Bay is a four-lane, undivided expressway" – Does this correspond to the part known as Thunder Bay Expressway, or just some of it, or more than the named part?

History

Who's Howard Ferguson?

Major intersections

With Chrome/Win7, the Little Norway Road row is showing up on top of a line instead of inside table cells. It would be better to have a proper row, with the leftmost cell as "Neebing–Thunder Bay boundary" (replacing boundary with the appropriate term, if there is one)

That's all - Evad37 [talk] 02:50, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed all. Argh it really annoys me that Firefox is the only browser that properly divides two row cells. Stupid Chrome. As for the Thunder Bay Expressway question, I've clarified the point where the highway widens (the swerve south of Arthur Street), but only the portion north of Arthur Street is the Thunder Bay Expressway - Floydian ^τ _¢ 05:43, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support, issues resolved - Evad37 [talk] 06:30, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Image review by Rschen7754

Pigeon River Truss.png - PD Canada
Outlaw Bridge.png - PD US
Ontario 61 map.svg - GIS sources?
Ontario 61.svg - PD simple
Highway 61 north of Pigeon River, 1955.jpg - PD Canada

Rs chen 7754 11:04, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Added source info to the map. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 18:36, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Rs chen 7754 21:29, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Spotcheck by Rschen7754

Source 9: meets V and CP.
Source 21: last part is missing, though I can't tell if the original article had any more information. --Rs chen 7754 21:51, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Which part do you mean is missing, regarding Arthur Street? The original article was a bit longer, but I can't recall if it mentioned that. One of the maps used as sources in the article could always be used to verify the old routing compared to today. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 22:19, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Map ref added for extra verification. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 22:29, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Okay,

Done and ready to close. --Rs chen 7754 22:30, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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