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Hi, I was wondering if I could create an account on this school IP address, even though my friend created one. If I created an account, would it be considered as a sockpuppet? Thank you. --164.52.225.2 (talk) 16:51, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Regarding creating an account: Sure, go ahead.

Regarding being seen as a sockpuppet: Yes and no. If both you and that other user stay out of trouble, you should be fine (it might help if you put a note on your user page explaining you registered the account at your school). Logging in to your account at home will also help associate your account with that IP address. If, however, both of you behave disruptively and you only ever edit at school, then we could only be able to conclude that the accounts are sockpuppets, even if it's different people operating those separate accounts.

Remember to log out of your account whenever you're not using it. Someone else using your account is a reason to block it, we don't excuse it under any circumstances. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:02, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

@Ian.thomson: I changed your link to WP:MEAT above to WP:SHARE, as presumably that is where you wanted it to go. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 10:05, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

@Tigraan: Thanks but no, I was referring to when multiple people use separate accounts but are otherwise indistinguishable as sockpuppets. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:38, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

If you are aware that someone else is using your IP address, you can declare this on your user page after registering. You are unlikely to be considered a sockpuppet in such cases unless other reasons exist to assume that you are indeed using multiple accounts. See WP:SHARE for more details. Regards SoWhy 17:04, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Creating Editnotice

How does a user create an editnotice for their userpage? PUZZLED🥕|🗣️ 19:35, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

@Puzzledvegetable: Check out Wikipedia:Editnotice#User_and_user_talk. It has links to the templates to use for this. RudolfRed (talk) 19:56, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Trouble saving an edit

Good afternoon! I was advised by the Executive Director of the American Anthropological Association that I should place my "Prehistoric leadership symbols" on Wikipedia Encyclopedia. Wikipedia data indicates an individual should make ten (10) edit changes before attempting to create an article. I know quite a bit about business suits and how they are used to symbolize status of managers and executives in a business setting (et cetera). Accordingly, I tried to make changes to the "Symbols of leadership in offices" section of "Symbols of Leadership". However, the changes I make to the article disappear when I try to view them after entering the word changes. Also, I choose the user name "object symbols" and a password [redacted], but Wikipedia keeps indicating I'm not logged into Wikipedia Encyclopedia. This may be a "cookies" problem. Pleas advise regarding all of the above if this is how the cookie crumbles, and maybe I should just create a website through WIX and be done with it. Thanks very much. Sincerely, Thomas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1003:B020:95FF:9047:896B:D838:ACF4 (talk) 19:47, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Symbols of leadership shows no changes to the article since 2016. Even as a new and not-registered editor, you should be able to edit an existing article. After you enter content, are you scrolling down to the bottom and clicking on Publish changes? What I am saying is avoid 'Show preview'.

I have redacted your password, you should never share that publicly. When you can log into your account you should change it immediately. Thryduulf (talk) 20:11, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

COI tag removal

Hi, I recently wrote an article on musician Noah K. I had originally written about one of his bands, Dollshot, that was challenged and ultimately deleted based on notability. I rewrote it recently (6 months later) since there were new sources that I believe overcome the notability issue, but it was ultimately deleted again. So, I wrote an article about the bandleader, K, who clearly passes WP:MUS and included a section on Dollshot within the article. As soon as it was posted RoySmith tagged it with a COI. At RoySmith's request, I have responded on my userpage User talk:Artaria195 and clarified my relationship to Noah, and to my understanding there is not a COI. I have done my best to write a neutral, unbiased, non-promotional article and carefully researched and cited sources for every statement contained within. Does anyone know how the COI tag can be removed? Thank you. Artaria195 (talk) 04:00, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

 Removed. Not sure why Roy placed it there since Template:COI editnotice says it should be placed on talk pages, not articles. Regards SoWhy 14:25, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

I apologize for the incorrect placement. I've put it on the talk page. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:11, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you SoWhy. Artaria195 (talk) 03:34, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

@Artaria195:, just FYI -- a conflict of interest declaration, like this one, should be posted on your user page and not on your user talk page. Aoi (青い) (talk) 19:38, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Ah, thanks Aoi (青い). Just added it here: User:Artaria195. Thanks for letting me know, Artaria195 (talk) 04:28, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Resizing an image

Hi Teahouse folks, it's good to see you again. I'm here to more or less ask for help - I added an image to a table of images (here's the diff) and somehow I seem to have changed the sizes of all the images in the table, which was not my intent. Does anyone know how to add the image without messing up the sizes and making the table fill the entire page width? Thanks! Airbornemihir (talk) 12:10, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

• Also, since I'm already drawing your attention to this edit, can you tell me whether I've correctly used the Wayback Machine in the citation I added? Airbornemihir (talk) 12:12, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • The page looks fine to me. Your edit added Marcia Fudge to the gallery but her picture is the same size as all the others, and nothing has changed size between the version edited by you and the previous version. Neiltonks (talk) 13:45, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
    • @Neiltonks: Here's an Imgur post showing how the table looks before and after the edit. Is it displaying differently for you? Airbornemihir (talk) 15:39, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
    • @Airbornemihir: I've done a bit more investigation and found that it looks OK when viewed in the Chrome browser (which I was using when I wrote my original reply) but when viewed in Firefox, the pictures are spread out as in your example! I've no idea why this is happening, though - browser differences aren't my 'thing'. Perhaps someone else here can make a suggestion. Neiltonks (talk) 15:51, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

First thing to do is to make sure both Chrome and Firefox are fully up to date. Then start comparing things. - X201 (talk) 15:56, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

- My investigation was done on the latest version of each (both are set to auto-update on my system). Neiltonks (talk) 16:05, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

I took these screenshots on 64-bit Firefox 63.0. Airbornemihir (talk) 20:10, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Is anyone, with experience dealing with browser differences, able to help? Airbornemihir (talk) 21:17, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

What type of licence/copyright for using protein structures from Protein Data Bank (open access)

Example image: 1shg SH3 domain

Hello! I'd like to upload a protein structure that is published. All protein structures that are published are available in Protein Data Bank: http://www.rcsb.org/structure/4CAH Normally researchers take a structure from PDB (it's free and open access) and then they change the colors, orientation, etc of the structure depending on what they want to represent. In these modification the structure itself is intact but the orientation or color may change. The identifier of that protein structure is that four letters, in this case 4CAH. Then the original work and the identifier are cited. My question is when I do this, should I choose "this is my own work" or someone else's? Both the publication itself with the authors and the PDB URL will be cited of course. Here is an example: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/SH3_domain As far as I understand since I generate the final image and the original source is open access, I can cite the protein identifier, authors, and PDB link, and choose my own work. Is that correct? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DannyVeg14 (talk • contribs) 07:45, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello, DannyVeg14, and welcome to the Teahouse. You ask a very interesting and sensible question. I am assuming you're wanting to upload the protein image to Wikimedia Commons, rather than just to English Wikipedia, as that would seem most logical? Because Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons are two separate entities, we tend to be extremely reluctant to advise on how they apply their own rules (there's are applied a lot more strictly than our own, too). Now, you indicate that you would be modifying a freely available image and validly licenced image, but only to the extent of changing colour or orientation. By reading this guidance page at Commons it's clear (to me, at least - bracketed comment added later) that you would not be adding sufficient new content as to be able to regard it is a 'derivative work', created by you. So, I think you should upload it as "not my own work", and do what you propose by clearly linking to the original usage policy, which took some finding (see here) and, of course, crediting the original image creators. You would simply be the uploader, and the authors would be credited in the Commons entry as the creators. You would be able to add detailed description to explain how you have subsequently modified the image. One thing you could do is to upload the unmodified image first, and then upload a new version with your own colour and orientation changes (each Commons image page has a link on the lower left side to "Upload a new version of this file" . That way, the page on Commons would contain two versions of the same image, giving users a choice over which one they wanted to utilise. Does this make sense? Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:28, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

• @DannyVeg14: That sounds like a complicated case of copyright, you might want to ask at the specialized desk.

We need images uploaded to Commons be free as in free beer, not just open access. So the questions are whether the original work is under a license compatible with Commons', and if not whether there is a real claim of copyright.

I am not sure about the former. http://www.rcsb.org/pages/policies says Data files contained in the PDB archive (ftp://ftp.wwpdb.org) are free of all copyright restrictions and made fully and freely available for both non-commercial and commercial use. (...) which is clearly CC-BY-SA compatible, but are you taking all your original material from that URL?

As to the latter, I am not sure either. Changing colors and rotating a 3D image would fairly clearly constitute a derivative work of the original, but does the original have a claim of copyright? Molecular structures are probably not subject to copyright (maybe they could be subject to patenting, which is a different kind of intellectual property that we do not really care about here). The software rendering the structure into a 3D image might or might not create copyright in the resulting image: considerations of threshold of originality applies, especially if there are strict conventions to represent different kinds of molecular relations (so that different researchers representing the same molecule would end up with very similar drawings). (I have zero familiarity with the topic of protein structure representations.)

@Nick Moyes: While it is true you can download multiple versions of the same file from Commons, only the latest one is available for inclusion in en-wp articles and the like. Furthermore, one should not upload a copyvio to Commons even with the intention of immediately "updating" it by a non-copyvio. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 10:02, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

@Tigraan: I don't believe I advocated uploading a copyvio image - that certainly wasn't my intention (but I see you are probably right about the complexity of trying to rotate, modify and upload a newer version, especially so if it requires accessing some other non-free dataset to create it). Whether that makes it a derivative work, or just a minor modification of the original is probably beyond my competence and best left to others with relevant expertise. So your advice is certainly very sensible, but I see no issues around uploading an exact copy of the original image under its CC-BY-SA licence, and I appreciate advising that only the latest version uploaded to Commons can be inserted into an article. I probably should have realised that. Thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:23, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: There seems to be a misunderstanding about the term "derivative work". When you make a derivative work, it creates a copyright for you because of the modifications; but it does not remove the original copyright, so you would not be able to release under a CC license if the underlying work is copyrighted. For instance, if you write a Harry Potter fanfiction, JK Rowling cannot publish it as her own (unless you licensed it to allow such use), but you cannot publish it yourself without JK Rowling's (and her publishers', probably) approval. So the only question when it comes to Commons upload is whether the underlying work is copyrighted (since the uploader agrees to release copyright for whatever modifications were made, copyright-creating or not). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 17:26, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

I just want to add, for those of you who are not familiar with protein structures and PDB, that downloading PDB files and using Pymol software to rotate and change the colors is a very common thing in protein research and almost all protein structures in Wiki, including the example I attached are structures originated from PDB but the orientation and colors are different. That's because people rotate the molecule to show different parts of it depending on the subject they are studying and there are different coloring systems to emphasize on different things. So almost no one ever uses the PDB structures as is. Thank you all! DannyVeg14 (talk) 23:04, 17 November 2018 (UTC)DanVeg14

Account name issues.

I had an account on Wikipedia which appears to have been deleted, likely due to lack of use...

When I went to create a new account using my name, it states that it's in use, presumably by the now deleted account.

Does this mean that I cannot use my own name on this site? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.60.166.251 (talk) 21:24, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

It would help to know which account this is about- but accounts cannot be "deleted". User pages can be deleted, but the account remains. If you provided an email address on that account, you can use it to recover your password(which it sound to me as if you forgot); if you did not provide an email and cannot remember the password, you won't be able to get back into the account. You should create a new one and then post a statement on your userpage identifying it as a successor account. 331dot (talk) 21:31, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Excellent!

I'll just have to figure out which of my email accounts it was pointed at now. Thanks so much.198.60.166.251 (talk) 21:50, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Article Verification

Hello. 1- Basically, how users could get informed about verification of their articles by Wikipedia? 2- Assuming that an article has been verified on Wikipedia, how long it takes to appear on a google search? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koohiar (talk • contribs) 19:44, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

If the question is about the article Koohiar Peik (I assume an autobiography), then it is unlikely to appear in a Google search because it is being considered for deletion. In general, new articles will not appear in Google until they have been approved by new page patrollers, or they have been there for 90 days. You might like to read WP:Autobiography and WP:new page patrol. Dbfirs 22:33, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Editing Reference Section

Hello,

I'm having trouble editing the reference section on the bottom of the page. When I edit in source mode, I don't see anything shows up in that section. I can add a new reference but it shows up as a separate section rather than being added to the original reference section (and the caption disappeared

When editing the reference section, the original references won't show up in source mode, but able to add a new one as in another section.

.. see picture attached). Please share any information that might be helpful and related to this problem. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjhhcc (talk • contribs) 22:37, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Jjhhcc, when you edit in source mode, references are not specified in the "References" section at the bottom of the page, but where they are cited.

The example you give is of a miswritten page. The list of eight references, generated by {{reflist}} or by some other template that I've forgotten, ought to have been put immediately below the "References" section header, but it's been put above it. Then, after the section header, there's a citation (cited in support of nothing) of one more reference, which causes "[1]" to appear. Finally, as there's a reference which has been cited but not displayed, that reference itself appears. Maproom (talk) 22:54, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

What Maproom is saying is that you should take the code that you are adding "<ref>{{cite web |title=동양 여성 차별하는 할리우드의 편견 깨겠다 |url=https://news.joins.com/article/3034530 |website=중앙일보 |publisher=중앙일보 |accessdate=2 November 2018}}</ref> " next to the text in the body of the article where it's being cited.

Wikipedia will automatically add this reference to the bottom of the page without you needing to edit the {{reflist}} section at all. I recommend this page (designed for students, but better than the written tutorials in my humble opinion) to learn more: https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/training/students/sources

Sincerely, Shashi Sushila Murray, (message me) 23:02, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Submitting an article for a recorded music album

I'm afraid I am very ignorant at the moment regarding the submitting and formatting info regarding any articles to Wikipedia, but I would like to start and article on Bob Brozman's album "Fire In The Mind".

How do I start ?

Is there a template I can use?

Are there articles specific to writing "recorded music album" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex Varlow (talk • contribs) 01:12, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Alex Varlow. First, start by reading our notability guideline for albums. Then, read and study Your first article. The bottom line is whether or not this particular album has received significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:25, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Alex Varlow. There are WikiProjects for all sorts of things. In addition to Cullen's advice you can look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Album article style advice. StarryGrandma (talk) 01:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Just feel lost to all of this, I look around and read what’s on the page, please talk

I don’t know what I’m doing I’m just curious to see how lol this works, it’s nice to see that there a community of people getting together to make thing better. I would just like to be part of it, maybe someone can teach me and show me how to do things on near, I just want to make difference for a change be apart of something good and not just focus on what’s bad in my life. Any advice will do I’m always up to listen to — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hope4jay (talk • contribs) 02:52, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Hope4jay. We have an educational game that you can play called The Wikipedia Adventure. That will help get you oriented to Wikipedia. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:26, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

William Farrer (settler)

My son suggested a number of style changes to William Farrar (settler) I agreed and affected those changes, but in doing so one of the paragraphs now has a gray background. I checked source edit for code. Could find none. I deleted it and reposted it, no change. What can I do to correct the problem.

I want to know how it was caused and how I can correct it. ThanksAlvanhholmes (talk) 03:19, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Someone else fixed it. The problem was that a space before the beginning of a section of text acts as if the text should be a quotation inside a box. David notMD (talk) 04:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

An article about a film producer

Hi,

I've been trying to write an article about a film producer but it keeps getting declined. I have 2-3 media coverage about him still it gets rejected. Please help me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lakshitapugalia (talk • contribs) 07:00, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

For reference the page is Draft:Suraj Singh. —teb728 t c 09:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Lakshitapugalia and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm sorry, but none of the three references is anything like good enough, as jmcgnh said in a comment. You need to find places where people who have no connection with Singh have chosen to write about him at some length, and been published in a reliable place such as a major newspaper, or a book from a reputable publisher. On such sources alone should most of the article be based. If you cannot find such sources (which don't have to be in English, by the way), then no article can be written. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 10:22, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

How to request an editor to review whether to remove refimprove template

United States Air Force Security Service has had a refimprove template since March 2009. I rewrote the article with references. How do I request that someone else take a look and decide if the template can be removed? Schaz (talk) 01:55, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Schazjmd. Thank you for your work to improve that article. I have two criticisms of the references in the article, one substantive and one procedural.

The first criticism is that the references are to primary sources that lack independence. In other words, they are published by various units of the Air Force. These sources can be used in a limited way, but the article should summarize secondary or tertiary sources that are independent of the U.S. Air Force. Examples might be journal articles or books written by respected military historians. Please refer to the General notability guideline.

The second criticism is that your references should be formatted to provide complete bibliographic detail. This is easy to resolve. See Referencing for beginners.

Once you have addressed these two issues, the tag can be removed. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:14, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Cullen! I'll clean up the references that are there now. I've a few books coming in that will hopefully be useful secondary sources, I'll do some more work when they arrive. Schaz (talk) 15:14, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

add a reference

I want to add a reference to a page when the are asking for "citation needed". The Help pages are not very helpful. I don't want to get involved in a bunch of HTML stuff. Can I talk or connect with someone who can walk me through this?

The page is "Fentanyl" The subheading is "Recreational use" The citation I would like to add is "Henderson, G., "Fentanyl-Related Deaths: Demographics, Circumstances, and Toxicology of 112 Cases," Journal of Forensic Sciences, Vol. 36, No. 2, 1991, pp. 422-433."

I am the author of this article

thanks gary henderson — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlohaGary (talk • contribs) 01:30, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, AlohaGary. First, begin by reading WP:SELFCITE. We do not use HTML. We use Wikitext and you can read Help:Wikitext and also Referencing for beginners. I cannot add the reference for you since I have not read the article and have no expertise in phamacology. Try it yourself. It is not really hard. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

The sentence with a citation needed tag is "The biological effects of the fentanyl analogues are similar to those of heroin, with the exception that many users report a noticeably less euphoric high associated with the drug and stronger sedative and analgesic effects." Your 1991 article about fentanyl-related deaths does not apply. Furthermore, for health-related topics, Wikipedia strongly prefers recent meta-analyses, systematic reviews and reviews in general over case-study reporting. If you can find better references, C's recommendation to learn how at Referencing for beginners is good guidance. David notMD (talk) 16:05, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

A few Jester article corrections...

1. According to the headstone at findagrave... Levi Jester died 30 Apr 1851. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/107144469/levi-jester in the article for https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/George_Taylor_Jester George Taylor Jester

2. https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Ralph_Jester the Academy Nominated costume designer, middle name is Kouns. He is also the same Ralph Jester who married https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Elizabeth_Hawes evidence: 1930 Passenger lists FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24NS-Y3S : 12 March 2018), Ralph Jester, 1930; citing Immigration, New York, New York, United States, NARA microfilm publication T715 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.). Ralph is listed as single as the sailing was before the December marriage. His birthdate and location match to Ralph K. Jester. The address is that of Elizabeth Hawes in NY. 8 West 56th St NY NY Ship: George Washington Ralph Jester, 10 Jul 1901 Texas Address: C/O Hawes Inc. 8 West 56th St NY NY Sailing from: Vherbourg, France

Then 1931 Passenger list from Hamilton, Bermuda lists Ralph and Elizabeth. His birth place and dates match, as does for Elizabeth Hawes, with the same address. FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24NQ-3Q2 : 12 March 2018), Ralph Jester, 1931; citing Immigration, New York, New York, United States, NARA microfilm publication T715 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

"New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists, 1909, 1925-1957," 1931 Ralph Jester, 10 Jul 1901 Texas Traveling with Elizabeth Jester b. 1903 Ridgwood, NJ listed as married Ship: Bermuda Sailing From: Hamilton, Bermuda Address: 8 West 56th St NY NY

1933 Crossing from Vera Cruz, Mexico FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24JB-GLP : 12 March 2018), Ralph Jester, 1933; citing Immigration, New York, New York, United States, NARA microfilm publication T715 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.). has a different NY address, this is the era he and Elizabeth had seperated. He is still listed as married. "New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists, 1909, 1925-1957," 1933 listed as married.

Ralph Jester, 10 Jul 1901 Texas Ship: Orizaba Address: 18 Beekman Plc NY, NY Sailing From: Vera Cruz, Mexico

1935 Crossing is post divorce FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24V6-CSW : 12 March 2018), Ralph Jester, 1935; citing Immigration, New York, New York, United States, NARA microfilm publication T715 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.). Ralph Jester, 10 Jul 1901 Texas Ship: SS California Sailing from California Address: 1800 N. Cerritos, Hollywood, California

Past and Promise: Lives of New Jersey Women By Joan N. Burstyn, Women's Project of New Jersey pages 315-316 Elizabeth Hawes https://books.google.com/books?id=h-6WCBQPZdoC&pg=PA315&dq=Past+and+Promise:+Lives+of+New+Jersey+Women+Elizabeth+Hawes&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJ5diJtejeAhVI1IMKHRufD-MQ6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q=Past%20and%20Promise%3A%20Lives%20of%20New%20Jersey%20Women%20Elizabeth%20Hawes&f=false

Marriage to 2nd wife Lois Ann Wilson. FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFRY-JTX : 6 December 2014), Ralph Kouns Jester and Lois Ann Wilson, Marriage, 09 Jun 1945, Bennington, Bennington, Vermont, United States; from "Vermont, Birth Records, 1909-2008," "Vermont, Death Records, 1909-2008," "Vermont, Marriage Records, 1909-2008," and "Vermont, Vital Records, 1720-1908." Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : 2010); citing Vital Records Office, Vermont Department of Health, Burlington and New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston.

I tried sometime ago to make an edit in the article of Stanley "Boots" Adams and messed it up. I promised never to attempt another edit. I hope this is enough evidence for someone to make the edits needed for Ralph, Elizabeth and George. Ralph's father was Levi Leven Jester, a noted banker in Texas History, who was one of the many siblings of George Taylor Jester.

Lynette Jester (talk) 19:06, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello Lynette Jester, and welcome to the Teahouse! From what I can find, neither findagrave (see Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources) or familysearch (see Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_250#FamilySearch_and_LDS_historical_figures) are considered WP:RELIABLE SOURCES on WP. The book, published by Syracuse University, would seem to be useful, but on WP, context always matters, so it depends what you want to use it for in the article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:20, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

fix my page

hi, i need help with my page — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesRothschildtt (talk • contribs) 19:21, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

The existing article at Rothschild banking family of England is entirely devoid of reference citations, as is your draft at User:JamesRothschildtt/James Benjamin De Rothschild. Please read about reliable sources and the guidance at Help:Referencing for beginners. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:27, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

How do you add a section to an article?

How do you add a section to an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron Justin Giebel (talk • contribs) 20:44, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

In the source editor you surrond the new heading with two equals signs; like this ==Section Heading==.

In the visual editor; choose paragraph, heading and type it in.

Regards, Ariconte (talk) 21:34, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

How do you reply to someone on your talk page?

How do you reply to someone on your talk page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron Justin Giebel (talk • contribs) 20:46, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Just type your reply below their message - or if a new message click 'New Section' at the top of the page.

Regards, Ariconte (talk) 21:36, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Jair Bolsonaro

Hello! Can someone please have a look at Jair Bolsonaro? This article possibly have multiple BLP and NPOV violations. So many complaints in the talk page but a few editors act like they own the article, refusing to change anything that challenges the status quo. Please participate in the talk page. More patrol is needed. Thanks! --49.195.181.212 (talk) 21:34, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

The teahouse is probably not the best place for this request.... see WP:DISPUTE for some ideas. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 21:44, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Changing more than spelling errors.

I am just getting started. http://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/Brava_Island_Cup shows which word is misspelled, but the wording of the opening paragraph is clumsy as well. Should I change it? Does someone else need to look at it afterwards? Thanks! Aurornisxui (talk) 21:00, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Improvements are always welcome...... go ahead and be WP:Bold. Click that link for more information. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 21:38, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I have another question about the same article. I wanted to go to the primary source to make sure I had a better idea of what to say, but the primary source http://www.fcf.cv/pt/index.php/associacoes/brava is no longer around (account suspended). I couldn't find anything else that has the same information, so that information is no longer verifiable. What should I do? Thanks Aurornisxui (talk) 22:37, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

See WP:WAYBACK. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 00:23, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks! Aurornisxui (talk) 01:22, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Checked Wayback Machine and all I found was this, which leads back to the main page, and this. I have also searched for Brava Football. Brava soccer, Cape Vere Football, Cape Verde soccer, and all I find are teams, players, and scores. Nothing to support this paragraph - "The Brava Island Cup (Portuguese: Taça (Copa) da Ilha da Brava, Capeverdean Crioulo, ALUPEC or ALUPEK: Tasa da Braba or Tasa dja Braba, Brava Creole: Taça dja Braba) is a regional cup competition and is played during the season in the island of Brava, Cape Verde, it consists of all the clubs from all the two regional divisions and are divided into about four to five rounds, for some seasons, a group stage was featured. The cup competition is organized by the Brava Regional Football Association (Associação Regional do Fogo, ARFB).[1]The cup winner competes in the regional super cup final in the following season when a cup winner also wins the championship, a runner-up competes. The winner qualifies into Cape Verdean Cup, since 2013, it has been canceled due to financial and scheduling reasons."

Publishing an article

I have recently finished my article on the Czech Vz. 53 Helmet and it is published to wikipedia, but how do I get it to show up on google?

Thank you JacobMinor33 (talk) 01:29, 23 November 2018 (UTC) JacobMinor33

Once the page is formally reviewed, it takes time for Google to index it. Please be patient. 331dot (talk) 01:33, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by JacobMinor33 (talk • contribs) 01:40, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

@JacobMinor33: Well done for persevering with your article! Edaham (talk) 01:57, 23 November 2018 (UTC)