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Much-Binding-in-the-Marsh

Much-Binding-in-the-Marsh was a BBC radio comedy starring Kenneth Horne and Richard Murdoch; it was one of the shows that built up Horne's reputation prior to his great successes with Beyond Our Ken and Round the Horne. This article went through a re-write in 2022 and a further recent brush up, with a possible FAC shot, unless reviewers counsel otherwise. - SchroCat (talk) and Tim riley talk 12:16, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Adding two penn'orth to the above: in the FA article on Round the Horne we followed the usual Wikipedia convention of using the present tense: "...is a radio show" etc. For the ITMA FA we used the past tense – "was a radio show" etc – because little of it survives in recordings and it is seldom heard on air, whereas Round the Horne receives frequent, one might almost say regular, rebroadcasts decades after its first transmission. Much Binding has had a few outings in the years since the first broadcasts, but SchroCat and I think that the past tense, à la ITMA, is the right one here. We'd be glad of reviewers' thoughts on this point. Tim riley talk 18:20, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Schminnte

I'll take a crack at this one, looking forward to a good read.

Lede

• Per MOS:ORDER, {{Italictitle}} should be below the short description.
• I feel that it should be explicitly stated that this is a radio comedy in the first sentence, à la ITMA.

  If we say "was a radio comedy", that would mean repeating the word "radio" three times in the sentence

  This would work if taken along with the suggestion just below, but I see what you mean otherwise - S

• More generally, I think the first sentence would benefit from discussing Murdoch and Horne instead of the broadcaster, since they were the constant throughout.

  We'll have a think about that. There are pluses and minuses to both. - SchroCat (talk) 17:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

• Could broadcast from 1944 to 1950 and 1951 to 1954 by BBC Radio and in 1950–51 by Radio Luxembourg be rephrased in relation to the BBC, something like "broadcast from 1944 to 1954 by BBC Radio, with one season broadcast by Radio Luxembourg in 1950–1951"? This reduces repetition and sounds more natural to me.

  But makes it incorrect - this way sounds like it was broadcast on both BBC and RL in 50-51. - SchroCat (talk) 17:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

  It does, doesn't it. My main issue was the repetition and flow. I wonder if there is a way to reduce this while keeping all nuance - S

• Regardless of above, it should be a comma after "Edwards".
• finally the show became the chronicle of a newspaper, The Weekly Bind. "Finally" could be rephrased to "for its last season" for more clarity.
• Also, I think a comma after club would be nice.
• Among the supporting cast were, I think "was" instead of "were" as "supporting cast" is singular.

  But the cast were plural - SchroCat (talk) 17:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

  My mistake, I parsed the sentence wrongly - S

• Singers in the musical interludes in the show included Gwen Catley, Maudie Edwards. Binnie Hale and Doris Hare. To remove repetition, try "Singers in the show's musical interludes included Gwen Catley, Maudie Edwards, Binnie Hale and Doris Hare"?

Background

• I think the ITMA in brackets should be italics.
• Stand Easy for the Army and, for the Royal Air Force superfluous space after comma.
• a BBC radio show for the Air Force, based on those who worked for the RAF Balloon Command comma is unnecessary.

More to come later. All the best, Schminnte ^{[talk to me]} 20:54, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks. Most of these done, but I need to have a chat with the one-armed bandit, once he is able to type properly again. - SchroCat (talk) 17:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

I hope the plaster will be coming off on Wednesday. Shall ping you, if so. Tim riley talk 20:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Replies above, will try to finish reviewing sometime this week. All the best, Schminnte ^{[talk to me]} 14:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Query from Z1720

@Tim riley: It has been over a month since the last comment. Is this ready to be closed and nominated to FAC? Z1720 (talk) 19:48, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• It will be in a week or so. - SchroCat (talk) 19:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)