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October 30

At least 80 militants are killed by Pakistani forces in an air strike on a religious school.

 
Flag of the Democratic Republic of the Congo

President Joseph Kabila and Jean-Pierre Bemba go into a runoff in the Democratic Republic of the Congo general election (flag pictured) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.217.193.20 (talk • contribs)

I suspect 68.217.193.20 was only suggesting the use of the DRC flag. --65.95.105.59 14:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 29

 
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva
Done. Someone please remind us when the DRC results are in. - BanyanTree 17:37, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 
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"According to exit poll data, Georgi Parvanov is decisively reelected President of Bulgaria in a run off caused by low turnout." (BBC) Todor→Bozhinov 18:05, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Of course, we can include exit poll or preliminary data in the table, but I was waiting for the 100% official and exact results to fill it up, as the closest we have at the moment are as of 73.17% of records processed. If we really need to have the table filled up, I'd add the data from Izbori2006.org, but I'm not sure this would be of use, as it's only temporary. Todor→Bozhinov 21:10, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 

Voters approve the first constitution of independent Serbia on a referendum.

--TheFEARgod (Ч) 21:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 28

October 27

[[Image:Eckstein1.jpg|100px|right]]

* I'm tired of Image:Afghan National Army emblem.png, on ITN for two straight days already. If no one wants the Flag of Nicaragua up there, can we have this baseball pic instead (Better if {{M-cropped}}), with the following text added to the World Series line, please ?
Shortstop David Eckstein (pictured) wins the Series MVP.
Thanks. --64.229.226.140 04:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC) Withdrawn. --64.229.227.54 20:09, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 26

 
Flag of Nicaragua
as far as I know there is no wikipedia article about this but I'm sure one will be forthcoming - Schrandit 22:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 25

I know that Wikipedia is not censored, but is it the most sensible thing to have one of the first links on the Front Page being to an article whose first words, bolded, are "Cunt: The Movie"? Batmanand | Talk 07:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely not notable enough. Bordering on tabloid journalism and no international significance. --AMorris (talk)●(contribs) 08:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is there an updated story on the current events page about this verdict or about this case? If so, I endorse putting this up. Aecis Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984. 10:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've found two relevant updated articles, Lewis v. Harris and Same-sex marriage in New Jersey. If there are no objections, I will put this up. Aecis Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984. 22:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 23

October 22


I think this is an important story given the role of the Panama Canal in world trade Radioheadhst 23:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with putting this up, but only when the results are final. The wording would be something like: "Panama approves/disapproves of a plan to expand the Panama Canal. The cost of the expansion is estimated at over 5 billion US dollars." Aecis Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984. 23:43, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Item added. --Allen3 talk 01:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 19

  • US declares vital interest in space

President Bush has declared space to be essential to US defence in a new National Space Policy. Not only has the United States declared that it has rights in space, but, if necessary, it will deny its adversaries access to space. This is a dramatic change in US attitude to space from being primarily are research area, it is now becomeing part of the defence program. This is a matter of World importance, is it not?

This, relatively unreported, change in US policy is a turning point, an historic moment, when the US laid claim to sovereignty over space and announced its intention to defend its space assets from possible threats from other countries and to to deny access to space by its adversaries. Certainly a moment to be recorded in an Enclycolpedia! See Wikinews Main Page today 19 October [1]. Fenton Robb 15:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You mean n:US declares vital interest in space? Where in this encyclopedia has this been recorded? What Wikipedia article got updated with this news? Please do that (or, start new articles as needed) and then return here to make suggestions for ITN in the form of a news headline with a bolded link to the best updated article. See ITN guidelines (here) for more details on the selection criteria and procedures. Act fast. Old news won't get picked. --64.229.7.224 15:47, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing to post yet. Please draft a headline with wikilinks to updated Wikipedia articles next time. This is too old for ITN now. Thanks. --PFHLai 16:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I know there's a percieved glut of U.S. stories recently, at least from the comments below. Also the article is still in flux. But I figure this is an important world news story from a "global prospects for civil liberties" perspective. Johndodd 18:44, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would be nice to mention the "civil liberties" issues in the ITN headline, but I can't come up with a simple sentence right now. --64.229.177.244 06:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Already posted (not by me) and displaced. This may return when we (finally) have someone chosen. Please remind us again then. Thanks. -- PFHLai 16:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 18

Already posted (not by me). -- PFHLai 16:53, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 17

The AFD closed yesterday. This is now too old for ITN. --PFHLai 16:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • You're saying it won't certainly happen? Either one of these two will win the title this Sunday, just like one of the two teams in the final will win the Super Bowl, or the Stanley Cup. That has nothing to do with crystalballism, that's simply the result of an ongoing championship. WP:NOT has nothing to do with it, it's about articles saying things like "In 2048, Macedonia might enter the EU." WP:NOT doesn't even apply to suggestions to do something after the inevitable has happened.
Now suppose I propose it after the race. That'll be Sunday afternoon American time, Sunday evening European time, Monday morning Australian time. Then it still needs to go through this filter. I don't know about you, but I prefer my news up-to-date and as quickly as possible. Admins may indeed not check that far down. But don't you think that someone other than the two of us will respond to this proposal in the meantime? Don't you think they will remember this discussion next Sunday, when the winner is all over the news? Come on. Updating the relevant articles can be done in two seconds, which means that the ITN can be updated within a minute after the finish. I suggest you sit down and watch how others react to this proposal, instead of shouting at random.
In the meantime, may I ask you to create an account on wikipedia? It makes discussing a whole lot easier? Aecis Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984. 17:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I just found out that you, Aecis, are an admin. So, you will remember this. Good. Please add this item when the time comes.
Aecis, may be it's my personality, may be it's my losses in sports betting over the years, I can only say nothing is certain till it's done. And I really think it's too early to draft that line for ITN. We don't know what will happen on Sunday and which relevant wikipages will get the best updates. Suggestions with wikipages not adequately updated have been "summarily dismissed" (see the archives above) and such items, if somehow put on the Main Page by admins who don't check carefully, gets pulled off ITN till the article gets updated (see page history of ITN). Adding just a sentence seems inadequate. I urge you not to post anything on ITN "2 seconds" after things happened. ITN is not our news-ticker service.
BTW, I am glad another admin is here. This candidates' page needs more admin attention. Twice this past month I had to go to Talk:Main Page to get help. (See Talk:Main Page/Archive 81.) But I have to say that you, Aecis, operate quite differently from other admins who used to patrol this space, such as Pharos, BanyanTree, zoney, nixie (all missing in action these days), Globez, PFHLai (occasionally here). No one plans days ahead like that, and none of them has ever accused me of "shouting at random". (I did that?) Thanks for the invit to get an account. I'll pass. I'm mostly a reader here. An account is not necessary. Thank you. --64.229.228.32 14:04, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
True, the championship will only have finished once the chequered flag is out. When the flag drops, the bullshit stops. But the chance that either one of these two will win the championship is 99.99999...99%, and the chances of anyone else winning the championship are so minute, that I think it's worth taking the risk and discussing now whether or not to put this on ITN next Sunday. ITN is indeed not a news-ticker service, but it isn't called In The News for nothing. Perhaps I plan days ahead, but that's probably because I'm a journalist myself. If I go to a press conference, I need to know well in advance who to talk to, what to ask, what will be said and what has been said in the past. Aecis Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984. 11:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. I'd suggest mentioning the latest race first, and avoid the word 'by' there -- the championship is really a whole season's work. If Schu is really retiring, mention that, too. --64.229.177.244 06:37, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, in view of all the prior comments, I suggest something to the extent:
If Alonso wins: "Fernando Alonso of Spain successfully defends his Formula One title."
If Schumacher wins: "Michael Schumacher ends his 15 year career in Formula One by winning the 2006 World Championship, his eighth title."
This is just a draft, the wording still needs a lot of improvement. But we've still got more than 48 hours to do that :) Aecis Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984. 08:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Linking to Renault F1 / Scuderia Ferrari would be more interesting & relevant than to Germany / Spain, IMO. Will these pages be updated in time? We'll see. --64.229.179.173 12:48, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is still not on the frontpage ??? Is this suggestion too far down on this candidates' page? Have this been forgotten? Aecis?
Fernando Alonso of the Renault F1 team wins the 2006 Formula One world championship with a second place fininsh in the season's final race.
-- 64.229.230.15 12:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Now posted. -- PFHLai 16:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 15

 
Moshe Katsav
Yes, let's wait till he is formally charged by the police. --PFHLai 05:30, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There are other charges as well, including wire tapping, that should be noted. –– Lid(Talk) 10:30, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 14

  • For future cases (e.g. the end of the World Series), please keep in mind that not everyone is into baseball, so it's best to avoid jargon as much as possible. I had to read "two-out three RBI home run" six times before I got a vague idea what it was about, and I'm still not sure. Aecis Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984. 13:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • This image is a free "wallpaper" - [4]. Can we use that?
  • It says "© Adrian de Kock" on the lower right corner. So, unless Adrian de Kock the photographer releases the photo into PD or licenses it under CC, etc., the image cannot be used in Wikipedia. --64.229.204.84 15:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 13

Please note that this result is extremely recent (last half hour). Google News has these links to coverage of this event (the biggest current event in the chess world), but see also here. There is also what I believe is a free picture of Kramnik in his article, namely Image:Vladimir_Kramnik_2005.jpg, which could be used to illustrate this. Carcharoth 15:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support this going up!--HamedogTalk|@ 15:58, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 12

No. This is not a breaking news page, nor is it a "notable person made notable statement" page. It's for notable encyclopedic updates, and this does not qualify. --Golbez 04:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I presume you're having a laff, given that (for example) at the time the Booker item was added to the template, the author's article looked like this and the book's article (now emboldened as supposedly the updated article) did not even exist. (This is only the first one I checked- I'm quite certain I can find others in a similar vein if you would like). Either enforce the guidelines consistently or not at all. Badgerpatrol 04:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing how I did not put up the Desai entry, I'm not sure how this pertains to me. Though we usually have exceptions to the 'one line' rule for things like election results and awards. I dislike your tone. --Golbez 05:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And I yours. If there are exceptions, these should be clearly articulated on the appropriate page. Since there seems to be such wild inconsistency between admins, perhaps a note on ANI (or something like it) might be in order so as to effect some kind of standardisation and put an end to confusion? Badgerpatrol 05:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
After you. We all have differing notions on what should go on ITN. I'm stating mine. I've made it a personal rule never to revert an entry someone else adds to ITN, unless of course it breaks the central rule of having an updated article. I'm reasonably sure I've kept up with this. --Golbez 05:25, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
ITN has a specific purpose; adding "soudbites" from prominent people falls well outside its stated purpose.--Peta 05:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Follow the link, or visit the BBC. This is a massive and hugely shocking news story, coming as it does from an extremely prominent member of the British establishment- the operational head of the British Army. If you think it is is just a "soundbite", then quite frankly I question your judgement to select ITN material. Unlike many ITN items, it has obvious international scope. And it is no worse off in terms of an updated article than numerous other ITN items, including those on the Nobel and Booker prize (and arguably that on Google/youtube) that are up there now. Badgerpatrol 06:08, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
First, there is no Wikpedia story; second, people call for their country to leave Iraq all the time.--Peta 06:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, as I suspected, you have missed the point. I humbly suggest you inform yourself as to the basics of global political affairs before making pithy statements of that kind. First, there is as much of a Wikipedia story as there has been for many, many other ITN items, including some that are up there right now. Second, this is not just anyone. I wonder what the reaction would be if the US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (a similarly important, although not direcly analagous, position) suggested coalition troops were part of the Iraq problem and should be withdrawn as soon as possible? I strongly suspect there would be uproar and the story would imeddiately make it on to the main page. Badgerpatrol 14:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Still waiting for "the uproar" to appear in newspapers... Maybe I missed it. --64.229.204.84 15:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 11

There's no information on the plane, no information on casualties, no information on damage - we need more than a title. --Golbez 19:28, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's a breaking news story. It's kind of hard to get that information on to the page when it really isn't known yet, except on the ground. That having been said, the page is getting more information on it, including an infobox with updated reports as it comes through the wires. --myselfalso 20:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't a breaking news page, perhaps people should go to cnn.com for that. --Golbez 21:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Why isn't the link on the main page to October 11, 2006 New York City plane crash? It only links to Cory Lidle. -Runningonbrains 21:14, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 9

  • It meets (b): "(b) the deceased was a key figure in their field of expertise, and died unexpectedly or tragically". Does "field of expertise" include sportsmen? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cokehabit (talk • contribs) .
  • Amazing how a British sportsperson playing a bizarre British sport dies, and nothing happens. Yet an American sportsperson playing a bizarre American sport dies, and, whaddyanknow, top article. Andymarczak 06:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 7

  • Though I'm not an admin, I certainly agree that this is a worthy candidate for the section. The death satisfies rule 5b, since she was a leader in her field and the death was tragic. In addition, it is internationally notable and even affects international politics. I hope an admin sees this quickly and puts it up. Syckls 16:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Added. Thue | talk 17:50, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 6

October 5

October 4

 
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October 3

October 2

 
Flag of Bosnia and Herzegovina
      • Expanded, with results for the Presidency and State Parliament. The results are 98% complete, and might change, but not enough to change the elected members of the Presidency. -- 85.94.131.10 09:40, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 

October 1

I don't know how many people really care, but nevertheless, it is a political event! In this case, the election has been held! -newkai t-c 18:21, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, someone else added it. --Nishkid64 23:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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