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Archived discussion for May 2006 from Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates.

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John W. Snow
Not remotely worthy of inclusion among just 5 odd world headlines. This is a minor story to everyone bar the tech-savvy. It's inclusion here is merely indicitive of Wikipedia's systemic bias, and there being more tech-users here. zoney talk 12:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, the one tech story we run in six months is indicative of our systemic bias. I suppose that means our bias towards soccer matches is unimaginable. I considered it better than any of the sports matches that have been nominated (and posted) recently. --Golbez 14:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Here in Sweden, where the event actually happened, it's head newsline in most newspapers..
Not true. I looked and looked in my paper (Sydsvenskan, also found at sydsvenskan.se). The last two days they have printed two medium-sized articles in the B (Culture) part of the paper. No mention on the frontpage or the A (domestic and world news) part at all. I think we should be sane and don't put this item in ITN. It's just not relevant to most of the world. Sverdrup❞ 13:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 
Ivan Basso
 
Flag of Colombia
It isn't that stubby after all... -- 199.71.174.100 03:24, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 
Álvaro Uribe
 
Hello, anyone. This has been up for a while now. Big Sporting news in Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.
Why hasn't this been added, yet? It is the provincial competition of three of the best teams in rugby union. The Heineken Cup was put up a week ago, why not the Southern Hemisphere equlivant???--HamedogTalk|@ 08:47, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's my personal opinion that these sporting events don't really belong; I didn't support the first one, so I feel no obligation to put this one up for balance. As always, one of the other 900 or so admins may disagree. And I don't understand what "New Zealand rugby union side" means. --Golbez 08:58, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. It is not just a domestic competition (it is a competition that includes three nations; Australia, New Zealand and South Africa), so it is more notable than say just a domestic comp, for its wider audience. In saying that, the Heinken Cup spans England, Wales, Ireland, France, Scotland and Italy, and it is probably a much bigger 'event'. It is probably a safe bet that (as of now) the only rugby union events that will get put up would be the Rugby World Cup, Six Nations Championship, Tri Nations Series and the Heineken Cup (as in, the winner annoncement/final). But I do think this game should have been mentioned, mainly because of its bizarre weather, something we may never see again, at least not for a long time. I don't know, anyway, lets work on that final page Hame. Cvene64 13:04, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 
 
President Xanana Gusmão of East Timor
  • Taylor Hicks wins the fifth season of American Idol --nobody 07:49, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Note: You posted that inane nonsense about the Eurovision song contest, it's only fair! --nobody
  • I might support this when the American Idol contest runs for a few more decades. The Eurovision Song Contest has so much more history, more international interests, it's hard to compare. -- 199.71.174.100 08:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree Eurovision has a longer history but you have to agree American Idol is at least if not more popular --nobody 08:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
  • You probably need to include google searches in many other European languages to "see the impact" of the Eurovision Song Contest in contemporary European culture. And, the country vs country flavour is not there in the Idol contest. American Idol seems like local news and lacks international relevance. -- 199.71.174.100 08:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • The Eurovision Song Contest is just as "local" as American Idol. Actually if you click on the Regions tab of Google Trends you will see American Idol has some global reach especially in Asia. Honestly neither the Eurovision Song Contest nor American Idol should be posted on ITN. International news should be defined as "International" and not as "Non-Americancentric" --nobody 09:06, 25 May UTC
    • IMO, usually, a winner of a competition does not involve a major article update. So Taylor won - swap a few bits and the article is updated. This is very much a case where anyone who cares already knows, therefore it's not exactly news. (for the record, I opposed putting EuroVision up too; we're having way too many "X won Y non-political competition" updates lately, probably because they're cheap, a quick article update and voila. It's also not like it was a shocker or anything. :P though it WAS neat to see that Lordi won, heh.) --Golbez 14:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 
Pro-immigrant protest in Salt Lake on April 10, 2006

It is now. Its even better too since the U.S. Senate just passed the bill today and Fox finally made a comment about immigration in Salt Lake City. 144.35.254.12 22:43, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And I think it would be nice to have it on the front page since our current illegal immigration in the United States article could use some editing. By having it on the front it would draw attention to other editors. I have already added a sizable paragraph today. 144.35.254.12 23:00, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • President Fox's visit to Salt Lake City isn't really all that significant in the whole encyclopedia topic of Illegal immigration to the United States, though it's certainly an interesting item for a newspaper to cover. On this topic I would consider waiting for a somewhat more substantive development, like when a law is actually passed, which shouldn't be too far off.--Pharos 23:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the 2006 Men's World Ice Hockey Championships, Sweden wins the final against the Czech Republic and thus become the first hockey team to win at both the Winter Olympics and the World Championships in the same year. // Please, if this goes up on the MP, check my grammar. Thnx. S4ndp4pper 20:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I suggest you change the rugby entry with this one. --Tone 18:29, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Godd idea; done.--Pharos 20:26, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • I don't know if it can be changed, but there is no way this deserves to be on the main page. Said World Championships do not involve any of the best players, as they're all in the National Hockey League. I love sports, especially hockey, but I could probably think of at least 20 current sports events that are of more international interest than this (anything about the World Cup, any of the recent meaningful hockey games, Barbaro, Rosicky's reported move, Bonds passing Ruth, even the Northwestern hazing scandal, pretty much anything). Please do some research before putting these things on the main page. zellin t / c 04:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
          • I disagree. While many of the world's best hockey players are indeed in the NHL playoffs, this annual IIHF event is apparently a much bigger thing in Europe than in North America. This is a valid ITN item with more than enough international interest. Barbaro is a possible ITN candidate (esp. considering how the ankle was broken), but Tomáš Rosický's move is not big enough a news item. Northwestern hazing ? (What ?) seems like local news and not even on Current sports events. Bonds ? I'd suggest waiting till he passes Hank Aaron. MLB did nothing official, neither should ITN. --PFHLai 07:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 
Flag of Montenegro

The Three Gorges Dam is officially opened. (I'm not sure whether it's quite happened yet or not, but it's a pretty major event, considering it cost 20-50 billion dollars US and took 13 years to build) Stevage 09:03, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thgough the principal part of the dam should be finished about today according to a press release from a couple of weeks ago, I don't see any signs of an "official opening" (there's almost nothing about it on google news). It seems that may come in 2009, if the 2003 event wasn't itself considered the official opening. Also, the article has an unfortunate Original Research tag.--Pharos 10:12, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Look here: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-05/13/content_4540727.htm --Shultz IV 00:25, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 
Super 14
Should wait until after the final. I don't think semis will get a mention. Cvene64 13:41, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Iranian expatriates reveal that ‘National Uniform Law’ authorized by Iranian parliament includes clause obligating Iranian Jews to wear yellow ribbon; Christians, other minority members to wear colored ribbons as well. (Ynet)
See also: National Post Joffeloff 17:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It might be a good idea to change the photo of Prodi with one of human genome, as it is the top news at the moment. --Tone 21:27, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

 
  • Yes, I didn't realize that it was already posted (I guess I was expecting it to be higher). Nevertheless, I moved the information from the other article to 2006 São Paulo violence because it allows for the information to be more centered on the event. Leaving the event on the Primeiro Comando da Capital article didn't really leave room to discuss the role of the police in the situation and the criticism they have been receiving as the entire article is devoted to the gang. joturner 03:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dutch Member of Parliament Ayaan Hirsi Ali has announced she will immediately leave parliament, after Minister of Immigration and Integration Rita Verdonk has announced that Hirsi Ali has never obtained Dutch citizenship. (Internationally known figure, (in the top 100 most important people of Times) steps down after it was announced that she has never obtained citizenship, has announced she will move to the United States. Very controversial in the Netherlands.) -- C mon 17:23, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I support this nomination. (Comment1: Looks like the miners may be stuck at the bottom of ITN for 14 days, again .....) (Comment2: Perhaps the national flag may be better. It's more recognizable.) -- 12:39, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Tape of Pentagon plane crash released 204.107.82.69 21:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)(talk)[reply]

    • No info here. Not ITN. --Patricknoddy 8:07 AM May 31, 2006 (EDT)
 
Flag of the Philippines
  • Hand-written notes by U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney released in Fitzgerald investigation implies Cheney's involvement in Valerie Plame case. Link: [4]
  • Police cane students and people protesting against proposed hike in reservations for other backward castes in educational institutes in India. Link:[5]
IMO, better to wait till the final results are released and added to the wikiarticles. -- PFHLai 19:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
File:Giorgio Napolitano (EP, 5th term).jpg
  • According to the edit summaries, the European Constitution story was added as a stopgap intended to be replaced bythe Italian president story as soon as it broke. I'm glad about that, because I was just about to challenge the inclusion of the EU story :) It seems that ratification by another State is pretty meaningless really, because the Constitution seems to be dead in the water. (The UK are holding off ratifying it, since some referendums have failed... I accept, however, that is interesting in itself but it's more of a "featured article" issue than news). I say we add the Italian story and ditch the Estonian one. --kingboyk 11:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do we have another photo of him? That one appears to not only be non-free but it's nominated for deletion. --kingboyk 11:43, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 
Michael V. Hayden, the next CIA head
 
I don't think it's very newsworthy that MPs are directed to vote on party lines - in fact it's a surprise they don't have a strong party whip in the first place. I'm reverting pending more discussion. (Also, the way it was added to the front page was incorrect - the reference to the Tasmania map remained, but the map was removed). --kingboyk 20:37, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I forgot to remove "(location shown on map)" in my first edit, though I did correct it shortly afterward. I think this item is notable for the context of the wider Shahrir Abdul Samad controversy, which has not previously been on ITN, and for which we have a pretty comprehensive article on thanks to Johnleemk.--Pharos 20:44, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, sorry about that (the map issue) - you were fixing it as I was typing here :) I don't think this story is of any international significance nor it is particularly interesting or unusual, I feel. That said, I'm just one guy... --kingboyk 20:47, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it does seem to be the only viable item newer than the Tasmanian mine collapse, which was added about 24 hours ago.--Pharos 21:24, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, you're right. I should have probably written a better (and more interesting) item, since it would reflect the magnitude of the dispute. (It's not a small thing when you consider this is a blanket ban; a resolution stating "This house believes that there is a God" would be shot down even though every MP believes in God and there is no separation of mosque and state, because MPs can't vote in favour of anything the opposition proposes. A better wording would probably be: "Prime Minister of Malaysia Abdullah Ahmad Badawi clarifies that the Whip is always in force for Barisan Nasional Members of Parliament after the controversy surrounding Shahrir Abdul Samad's decision to support an opposition motion." Then again, that sounds boring too (and the Whip article is also a DYK candidate currently). Sigh...still, what item from Asia are we going to have after the PAP election victory is taken down? Johnleemk | Talk 05:20, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The news will come to you. I don't think it's right to be putting "something Asian" on the front cover for the sake of it. :) That said, probably we do now need something new asap, and a picture to replace the Aussie map, since the Aussie flag is now on the front page... --kingboyk 08:40, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Though Zuma has been out of office for a while, he still seeems to be a pretty major political figure in the country. Note: He was actually acquitted on May 8, but people tend not to scroll down so I've posted this here.--Pharos 21:24, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 
  • Nobody objected, it's massive on Google News, and I'm not waiting around until it's old news, so I've gone ahead and added it :). Please trim/copyedit if need be. --kingboyk 17:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Costa Rica's Inauguration Day. Peace Nobel Prize Oscar Arias is sworn as Costa Rica's president for second time. [8] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.196.69.130 (talkcontribs) .
 
I agree with you let's wait. This story got a lot of international interest I saw it on CNN and lots of other stations. FellowWikipedian 14:33, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't like the phrasing of the one suggested above. Perhaps...
... is more concise. joturner 23:53, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's okay if you changed this. Thanks for posting. FellowWikipedian 24:57, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 
Map of Tasmania
I put up the Tasmanian flag as suggested, I wonder if perhaps a map would be more appropriate as Tasmania isn't a national entity. What's the thought on this?--Pharos 00:10, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I like the map. We've had too many flags on the Main Page recently. joturner 00:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There's are couple on Commons. FellowWikipedian 00:36 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I like the map too. It's GFDL, so I've replaced it. --kingboyk 17:15, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I like it a lot better. There are to many flags on the Main Page recently. FellowWikipedian 19:08, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lillian Gertrud Asplund, the oldest living American survivor of the Titanic survivor, dies at 99 years of age.-Bio2590 03:54, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
  • There are 2 more living Titanic survivors, though neither are American. -- PFHLai 04:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, but she was the oldest living that could actually remember the event. She was 5 years old, and the other two were 10 months and 2 months.-Bio2590 12:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Oh, and she was the oldest living on, in case you hadn't seen-Bio2590 12:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 
Porter Goss
I add my vote for this event to appear on the main page. --Tone 15:52, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Let's wait till we have a winner. -- 199.71.174.100 10:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Former President Suharto of Indonesia, dictator for three decades and reputedly the world's most corrupt head of state, is currently was hospitalized over "intestinal bleeding", but is moreover suffering "partial organ failure" and listed in unstable condition. --Daniel 17:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • If his qualification under 'deaths' isn't absolute (his passing would have no effect on currentp olitics), I don't see why a possibly fatal illness qualifies him any more. --Golbez 22:44, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 
Ehud Olmert