Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Venues of the 2010 Commonwealth Games/archive1

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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 17:07, 9 December 2010 [1].

Venues of the 2010 Commonwealth Games

Featured list candidates/Venues of the 2010 Commonwealth Games/archive1

Nominator(s): ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 12:21, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This list is similar to articles such as Venues of the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics and Venues of the 2010 Winter Olympics. Thank you for taking the time to review. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 12:21, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment—no dab links, no dead external links. Ucucha 12:55, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Another Believer _(Talk) 15:31, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment—At least on my screen, the table in the "Competition venues" section starts below the column of images that appears along the right-hand side of the screen. The results is a large amount of white space above the table. I am not sure of the exact cause--maybe try designating the images as right, upright thumbnails like seen here ("right|upright|thumb|" in the image coding)? --Another Believer _(Talk) 15:31, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I've used {{Fix bunching}}. You can check again; it should be fine now. ANGCHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 16:45, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Problem still exists, at least for me. I have no idea what the best solution is, just pointing out the issue. I will let other reviewers decide if the issue needs to be resolved or if the list meets FL criteria. --Another Believer _(Talk) 17:05, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - The problem comes from the navbox placed in the lead section just below the image. It's too big and pushes the images in the section below aside and thus the table gets pushed down. I really think these navboxes should be converted to horizontal collapsible templates at the bottom of the page. Parutakupiu (talk) 23:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - Would it help if the stadium image located in the lead is decreased in size? --Another Believer _(Talk) 04:24, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        I don't think it would. At least, the image would have to be pretty small (smaller than default size) so that the navbox doesn't cross into the section below. Parutakupiu (talk)
        Should be fine now. I just reinforced stacking by adding new parameters. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 13:01, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Still problematic for my computer (and my work computer), but perhaps it is a personal settings issue. --Another Believer _(Talk) 22:20, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Oh it didn't work for my computer after a while. I've decreased column width, please do tell me its alright now. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 06:53, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Yes, better. Well done! --Another Believer _(Talk) 00:49, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:
~~Hockey venues seats 20,000 i thought. Aaroncrick ^TALK 11:32, 22 October 2010 (UTC)~~[reply]
- Yes you are correct. 2,500 refers to one of the two pitches in the stadium. Updated, thanks. ANGCHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 13:11, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Has Aaroncrick been asked to revisit? Dabomb87 (talk) 22:58, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"A total of five venues were newly constructed for the games; the Dr. Karni Singh Shooting Range, the Siri Fort Sports Complex, the Thyagaraj Sports Complex, the Yamuna Sports Complex as well as a rugby sevens facility in Delhi University." Why semi-colon instead of a colon?
The is used a ridiculous number of times in the prose.

Aaroncrick ^TALK 23:28, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Afro (Talk) 16:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - I'm a bit confused over the "type" column for the competition venues section, also per WP:COLOR colored cells should have accompanying symbols (e.g. * ^ †) to comply with WP:ACCESS. Ref 24, 25 have no publishers. Afro (Talk) 16:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Changed; I've used footnotes to explain. I've also removed the colors, even though I kind of miss it. Regarding refs 24 and 25, the error's been corrected. ANGCHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 07:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - After looking at the previously featured 2010 Winter Olympics medal table I think the sections need to be more descriptive, and it shows the table could be better formatted. I'm just throwing this out there. Afro (Talk) 14:57, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - You mean add more prose to the "Competition venues" and "Training venues" sections? Sorry what do you mean by the table can be better formatted? Thanks. ANGCHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 06:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - Well it doesn't have the dubious type column which could be explained better if it were to be in text, plus it has the location of the venue. Afro (Talk) 10:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        I don't know, I was just thinking since its a recently featured list that maybe this FLC could be modelled more after it. Afro (Talk) 02:55, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Haha so to add prose or not to add? Venues of the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics on the other hand does not have prose in the respective sections (and its a newer FL). So? ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 10:50, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        I do think it would help the article, my suggestion would be to add them. Afro (Talk) 13:38, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The sorting function on the Competition venues table seems to be sorting everything by max capacity, would it be better to sort these by minimum allowed rather than maximum allowed? Shouldn't the notes come before the See also section? Afro (Talk) 08:12, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is sorted with regards to the venue's seating 'potential'. It makes more sense to sort by the maximum rather than the minimum. As for the placement of the Notes section, I believe the protocol is to have the See also section above "Notes". ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 11:55, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I see no problems which would discourage me from supporting. Afro (Talk) 14:03, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 00:10, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

"The venue which had the largest venue was the Jawaharlal Nehru Sports Complex". Prose redundancy with the multiple "venue"s; is one of them supposed to be a different word?
- Corrected. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 08:22, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The opening and closing ceremony links seem to be reversed from their intended order.
- Corrected, didn't realise argh. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 08:22, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Commonwealth Games Village: The em dashes should be made unspaced per the Manual of Style.
- Done. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 08:22, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"adopted by the OC CWG Delhi 2010." Are all the abbreviations short for something, or is this the name of an organization? For those who may be unfamiliar with the Commonwealth Games, like myself, this is more than a little confusing. (P.S.: Okay, I've read a little further now and see where the abbreviation is explained. Still, I think it should be given with the first full use to avoid such issues)
- Sorry, now corrected. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 08:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What is the CGF? This is another unexplained abbreviation.
- Explained. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 08:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Concerns over readiness and state of venues: "Delays in the construction of the Games' venues was linked to...". "was" → "were".
- Done. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 08:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note 2: "it is taken that training for the sports of athletics and aquatics were provided in that venue". "were" → "was". Exactly the opposite of the suggestion above. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 23:53, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 08:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Meets FL standards. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 00:10, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 08:10, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

No bold links please.
- Corrected. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 07:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"in Delhi and India" well, Delhi is in India, so just "in India" would be fine.
- Done. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 07:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"namely, the" not convinced that you need "namely, " here.
- Corrected. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 07:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Type column should be left-aligned.
- Is that necessary? Centre-alignment seems fine to me. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 07:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"total of twenty training venues were used in the Games. Of these 20," - twenty v 20?
- Corrected. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 07:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I dislike "(see above);" in an interactive, clickable encyclopedia.
- Corrected. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 07:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Connaught Place is overlinked.
- Corrected. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 07:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"as Canada found" - had found?
- Corrected. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 07:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is it Times of India or The Times of India? And why link the last one in the refs, but not the others?
- Corrected. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 07:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note 3 is unreferenced.
- I have removed Note 3, and I have no recollection how those information came about. Since the two venues involved already existed prior to the games, they are henceforth noted as "Existing". The "new" things in Note 3 actually refers to facilities within the venues. It does not affect the standing of the two venues as "existing" venues. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 11:52, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:19, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support no issues on a revisit. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support I have no issues with this list.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 12:05, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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