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Need you to point me in the right direction

I'd need a professional body statement (such as the APA, AAA or AAPA statements on race) from biologists and/or geneticists on what they think about the subject of "race"... This is of course for the R&I article. Please let me know if anything comes to mind. Thanks in advance.--Ramdrake (talk) 15:17, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Mea culpa

I'd like to personally apologize for failing to re-check the source of that passage when you suggested it. I should have, but didn't, relying upon my earlier notation instead. I posted the full citation of the passage on the talkpage. Thanks, --Aryaman (talk) 14:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for taking the time to respond. Appreciate it. Alun (talk) 15:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks

I never thanked for your condolence note last year, but I appreciate it more than I can possibly express. All the best, in friendship. Guettarda (talk) 16:25, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

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Wobble,

I've responded to you here at the mediation. slrubenstein has made some suggestions about revising the statements to adress your concerns, and I'm waiting on your approval before I do so. sorry for any confusion about my purpose on the page. --Ludwigs2 17:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

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I'd also ask you to leave a note for David.Kane (talk · contribs) on his talk page. Whatever your opinion of the draft itself, I think he deserves thanks for putting a lot of time and effort into making the revisions. --Ludwigs2 18:45, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Race

you might want to keep an eye on this discussion. Slrubenstein | Talk 14:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

2 boys image

Hi Wobble,
coming over from Commons where your image File:Twobrothers.jpg has been tagged for deletion. While the presented rationale isn't that convincing, I see a problem with personality rights as this is an indoor shot of fully identifiable non-notable people. Honestly, do you have the informed consent of the parents for broad publication of this image under a free license? --Túrelio (talk) 07:21, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Ummm, I am their parent. Alun (talk) 15:38, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Huxley races

Hi Wobble. Your map http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/File:Huxley_races.png lists Bushmen under number 1. Because you say "map of the distribution of human races by Thomas Huxley", I am not sure whether the terms used by Huxley must stay as is. What I am getting at, is whether Bushmen should not be replaced by Bushmen (or San) and Khoikhoi. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 17:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I see your point. I don't know. I used the term bushmen because that is what Huxley used. I simply don't know if the people he meant correspond to the same group as what we might call San today. In general I think there would be no problem with the change though. Alun (talk) 09:59, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

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I saw on the genetics projects page that you were interested in genetics, but not any particular genetics-speciality. Would you perhaps like to help with the genetics collaboration of the month, the genome-wide association study article? That's a fairly broad article, since it does not focus on one specific disease and I thought you perhaps could come with some input. Best. --LasseFolkersen (talk) 11:45, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

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Rosalind Franklin

You must be so looking forward to the new biography by her sister "Wobble"?

2.27.113.92 (talk) 18:50, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Bought/read it. Only thing missed out is the invitation card for the 'D.N.A. Helix' funeral... 2.30.208.50 (talk) 19:51, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Problematic Phylogeny Diagram from 2007

Hi Wobble, I see that you are the author of this diagram, from 2007: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Molecular_lineage.png My impression is that it was intended to illustrate some basic concept about phylogeny in a generic way. However, unfortunately, with the letters A and B on it, it is being taken quite literally by some readers who have written to me. They are supposing that there is some unnamed, "Ancestral Haplogroup" ancestral to human Y-DNA haplogroups A and B, and which still survives to the present. They have been barraging me with questions as to whether it is A00, or what it would be. I participated as a volunteer project admin in the discovery of A00, and was a co-author of the paper about it in the AJHG. I'm continuing research on A00, so people are looking to me for the scoop. I keep telling them that there is no "third branch" as they are thinking. Do you think we could come up with a diagram that will illustrate phylogenetics in a way that is not going to give them the wrong idea? Thanks! Iris-J2 (talk) 18:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

The image is clearly a schematic of how mutations arise, and not meant to be representative of the actual Y chromosome phylogeny. After all, that itself is under constant review as new mutations are discovered, and the mutations aren't labelled as Y chromosome mutations would be, after all, haplogroup B is defined by B-M60, and I don't label that mutation as B-M60. Also there must have been an an ancestral Y chromosome to haplogroup A, that fact it is no longer extant doesn't mean it never existed. I don't mean to seem rude, but what I'm hearing from you is "some people are just too stupid to understand a simple schematic". This is an encyclopedia, it doesn't contain original research, it should contain explanations and illustrations that aid understanding of concepts. I made this image a very long time ago, and I haven't been involved in Wikipedia seriously for six years or more, I got very burned out with the constant wikilawyering and politicking. Personally I think the image is clearly illustrative of a concept, and obviously not meant to be taken literally. It's not a great image, I am sure that many people could produce something far more aesthetically pleasing, I don't pretend to be very good at drawing, I only wanted to help people understand why Y chromosome mutations are sequential and define haplogroups. I really don't care what you do, put it up for deletion, whatever. I'm done giving my time to help people who only ever attack and criticise you for it. I don't particularly feel responsible for the fact that some people are too stupid to grasp the basic concept of a schematic. Alun (talk) 04:31, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

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