User talk:Strike Eagle/Archive8

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News

Pls have a glance at this news, it states memorandum to the CM on some issues, and one of the issue being consideration of Urdu as the second official language in Andhra Pradesh. So, at present there is no second officio language based on this. Your say?--Vin09 (talk) 16:03, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

I strongly suggest we maintain Status Quo and not remove Urdu until we have a source which says that Urdu is not an official language. The above mentioned source could be taken as an indirect reference to the same but I suggest restraint...Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 10:56, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
That was written on your talk page on 10th august. You may have seen today. I have already quit the debate today here Urdu. Anyhow thanks for reply.--Vin09 (talk) 11:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Indicscripts

User:LeoFrank guided me on WP:INDICSCRIPTS. So I performed this edit which was reverted here. Is it not suitable for every page. Can you guide me on that rule. Even I asked LeoFrank but he isn't available.--Vin09 (talk) 11:21, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

While the rule applies everywhere, it seems Tengu800 has given a rather credible explanation. So I would let it remain. Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 11:49, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Doubt

Articles containing potentially dated statements, what does this mean about Vijayawada (Rural) mandal. Is it right to have As of 2011? I didn't get that.--Vin09 (talk) 10:59, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Where? I don't seem to find anything like that in the page? ƬheStrikeΣagle 10:59, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Like this Category:Articles_containing_potentially_dated_statements_from_May_2014. They say As of year words. Should we not use them?--Vin09 (talk) 11:08, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
You are actually strongly encouraged to use words like As of 2011 or As of 2014 instead of recently etc.....words like recently become outdated and no longer refer to the time they originally were intended to be. So go ahead and extensively use As of   Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 11:16, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Kadapa district name

The district name is written as Cuddapah in this page. In this page it is written as Dr.Y.S.Rajasekhara Reddy District (Cuddapah). As per wiki naming conventions more familiar and usable name is taken into consideration. A user moved the page entirely to some different name which is written as Kadapa District (Cuddapah district). Can you guide this.--Vin09 (talk) 13:16, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Cuddapah is the most extensively used name of the district in the english speaking world. Per WP:COMMONNAME, it is advisable to use Cuddapah instead of any other alternative. You may go ahead with an WP:RM to get a clear consensus. Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 17:22, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Nellore

The district also has the same problem.--Vin09 (talk) 17:31, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

 
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Potential Superpowers

saw the revert war going on at the potential superpowers page and noticed you had stopped reverting the sockpuppets to avoid going over the 3RR. i have reported the user for sock puppetry. you may wish to take a look and comment if you want to at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rollanotherblunt.

thanks and regards, Pvpoodle (talk) 18:31, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

 
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yo

take a look at this link. lots of high res IN pics there. might even be able to use some of them if you can find the navy attribution on them.

regards Pvpoodle (talk) 14:25, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Although it looks those photos were indeed taken by the Indian Navy, we can't use them as they aren't released on indiannavy.nic.in. You can use any goddamn image released on the website but not any others as of now :( ƬheStrikeΣagle 10:53, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
yea i get that. terrible shame about it but nothing we can do. anyways i thought you might enjoy the pics, hence the share ;) enjoy and regards Pvpoodle (talk) 12:53, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
  btw have you noticed that this pic's description is wrong ? if you look closely you will notice that there is a sea harrier on the stern. the aircraft on deck from right to left are 1x alize 1x seaking 2x seahawk and 1x harrier. clearly the pic was taken in the 80's and not during the 71 war. i dont know if we should change the description, the source only mentions dunking sonar being deployed. i dont intend to change it but you should probably decide since you are the original uploader. im fine either way. Pvpoodle (talk) 13:01, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Wtf! I never noticed the harrier!  ...so this must be between 1983 and 1989 as the ski-jump was still not installed....I request Anir1uph to weigh in his opinion too so that we can decide something. Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 17:24, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
yea easy to miss details on those old scanned photos. but i happen to be intimately familiar with the sea hawk and spotted one that looked different right away ;) (hint : the vertical stabilizer shape is different. also too small to be sea hawk ;) ) and yes i agree, the time frame is after acquisition of harrier but before retirement of seahawk and refit with skijump. anyways you guys decide. like i said im fine either way. Pvpoodle (talk) 18:48, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Oye! Very well spotted, Pvpoodle! The description of the image must be submitted for change :) Anir1uph | talk | contrib 16:38, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
guys have a look at this link P15 kolkata apparently p15 carries only 2x16 cell barack 8 for a total of 32 and not 64 as originally thought. i had been hearing rumors about this once the pictures had been released, but no confirmation until now. Pvpoodle (talk) 06:02, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
@Pvpoodle....it presumably carries 32 X Barak-8 and 32 X Barak-1....if you observe the livefist images carefully, there are 32 vls in the front and another 32 at the stern. It could possibly carry 48 B-8 and 16 B-1 considering there are 4 X AK-630....but all these are speculations....but 64 VLS is confirmed. Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 07:04, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
there are not 32 vls in front. there are 16 and another 16 in the back. this has been confirmed by Vishnu Som (who incidentally stood on the deck and counted the Barak vls cells) and other journalists. if you look at all the latest news reports they all say 32 b8 and no b1. here is another report by ajai shukla link. there is an assumption that more SAM will be added either matri point defense or more barak 8 since there is a lot of available space. also you may find this an interesting debate link Pvpoodle (talk) 07:19, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, 32 vls seems likely..and as you said, there's lots of space for future expansion. But as of now, majority of sources support 64 vls so I suggest we stick with that. Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 16:56, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
but the majority sources are out of date... by at least 5 or more years. Pvpoodle (talk) 03:05, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

INS Arihant

if you havnt seen this already, the first clear pic of the Arihant. link enjoy. Pvpoodle (talk) 03:05, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Was one of the first too see it on 20th..  thanks..  ƬheStrikeΣagle 15:48, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
yea i thought as much  . Pvpoodle (talk) 06:23, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Kamorta Pics

hi, there are better pics of the kamorta with the profile view released by the navy on this [link]. do you want to replace the current pic and maybe add a gallery view on the ship page? let me know if you want to do it or if i should. thanks and regards, Pvpoodle (talk) 07:59, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

I've already uploaded a huge cache of images of kamorta and kolkata some half an hour ago. Find them here..feel free to replace the images if you feel the new ones are better. Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 08:19, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

list of decommissioned ships

hi, i would appreciate if you and Anir1uph could help me clean up and expand List of ships of the Indian Navy. We have had a lot of ships right from pre independence days but no single place to find them all, so i have been trying to expand the decommissioned ships section on this page. i have also started work on listing everything in a table. any help with the tabulation, finding more ships or just linking to other pages would be very much appreciated. thanks and regards Pvpoodle (talk) 15:09, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Will try my best... Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 15:34, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
thank you. will be off for an hour or so, feel free to make any changes in the meantime. Pvpoodle (talk) 15:46, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
The sloops in indian navy service were later reclassified to Frigates, same with other operator the royal navy. lets roll them into the frigates section? i posted this on the article talk page, but i think you may have not seen it yet. Pvpoodle (talk) 17:40, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
  Done Didn't notice..thanks for the mention. Thanks, ƬheStrikeΣagle 17:43, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
why are we removing all the INS and HMIS prefixs? ships are always known by the full name including the prefix in the navy. even the '{ { 'ship' } }' template lists the full name. Pvpoodle (talk) 18:13, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
i think its a good idea to mention combat kills of ships in notes section. wars are rare and its even rarer for a ship to get a kill. thanks Pvpoodle (talk) 07:28, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Sure, will do after tabulating all of them. Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 07:38, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Page Move

I looked up and found the pennant numbers for INS Mysore (1939) and INS Delhi (1948), could you do that thing you do and move the page please ? thanks. Pvpoodle (talk) 15:08, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

could you do that thing you do lol     Done for Delhi but   Not done for Mysore as it has a redirect in place already. Made a request at WP:RM.... Great job finding the pennant numbers! Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 15:34, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
thanks :) Pvpoodle (talk) 15:44, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
INS Mysore (C60) is also   Done now... ƬheStrikeΣagle 16:05, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
yes i just noticed. thanks a lot :) Pvpoodle (talk) 16:53, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
found another one for you ;) INS Khukri (1958), Kirpan (F144.) pennant numbers found on Blackwood-class frigate. thanks :) Pvpoodle (talk) 06:02, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
never mind. i did it myself. first time i have moved a page btw :P . Pvpoodle (talk) 06:27, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

apache and chinook

yo, hows it going ? the apache and chinook deal has been cleared by jaitley and the dac. should we include in list? Pvpoodle (talk) 16:05, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Returned from a brief hiatus..thanks to new games like Rivals,Most Wanted 2k12 and Splinter Cell  ..no don't add it just now..it hasn't been ordered yet...the Cabinet Committee on Security(CCS) still has to clear it and it is then the govt will officially order them...we just have to wait and see   Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 16:13, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
sorry too old to play games :( . the news today was that the ccs has cleared the purchase. but i guess we will still need to wait for the formal order. cheers to you too. Pvpoodle (talk) 16:28, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

India isn't like Brazil a great power

These 2 states like Germany,Russia and others aren't at all great powers.Italy has a larger net national wealth than India (several times) and a larger GDP.The only 2 real great powers are USA and China.They can be considered with EU also the real superpowers or the potential superpowers (see China).151.40.34.81 (talk) 11:59, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Marvelous......but why are you telling me? ƬheStrikeΣagle 12:54, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
If you see 151. extension talking about great power, potential superpower, consider that it is sock of Mediolanum, Bushranger just blocked 2 of them. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 11:24, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Yeah understood but didn't knew why I actually got the message....haven't edited the article for some time now! And he's the first guy who's comparing Net Wealth for great power status...what's he gonna do with the wealth? buy foreign leaders!?     Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 13:26, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) i found the whole thing quite hilarious really. Italy has not been a great power since the time of the Romans Empire. and whats with the title? why brazil?Pvpoodle (talk) 13:35, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
hehe forget it...it's natural for everyone to feel their country is a great power...don't we know many Indians who think India is a superpower!?  ......just OR won't help him anyway... ƬheStrikeΣagle 13:48, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Shhh Pvpoodle, you will receive legal threats if you kept disagreeing with Mediolanum/151. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 13:52, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
hehe ƬheStrikeΣagle 16:13, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

India like Brazil,Germany and Japan aren't at all great powers.Italy overtakes in economy Russia tooThe great powers are just states with UN veto power that today is insignificant.Just an old and useless souvenir of 50 years ago or more.Hallo to everybody.Here and to the hidden ones too.151.40.80.13 (talk) 23:53, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) if you are going to rely on wealth and GDP as an indicator of great power status, perhaps you should try understanding Purchasing Power Parity before going on with your rants. Pvpoodle (talk) 03:45, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

You still watching Aadhaar?

I had reported to WP:ANI, till now nothing has been done. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 11:24, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

It's surprising because the government has changed and he seems to continue...so he's not a government agent then! ƬheStrikeΣagle 13:26, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Need help

Have your say on this page.--Vin09 (talk) 14:30, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mukund Varadarajan

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history coordinator election

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October 2014 Wikification Drive

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hi

hey,

seen this yet? HSl Ocean Surveillance Ship

10k Tonns empty and 14.7k tonns full. would be pretty interesting to see how this turns out. Pvpoodle (talk) 17:29, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I hope we have one more source other than the livefist and baynews so that we can start an article..got one? ƬheStrikeΣagle 17:33, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
no RS links sorry :( there is this tender details link from which shiv figured out the details i think but i dont think its usable. the ship should be launched sometime next year and we should have enough details by then to start an article. Pvpoodle (talk) 20:48, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Sure we will write one! Poor Shiv thinks it will be ready by next year...hehe   ƬheStrikeΣagle 10:09, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
yea i would be surprised if it is ready by then too, maybe he meant the ship will be launched by next year. In India usually the ship gets launched in a couple of years after keel laying but then takes a decade for fitting out.Pvpoodle (talk) 17:37, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
the lapses in fitting out is due to unavailability of missiles and radars it seems....the Directorate of Naval Design thinks too futuristic and includes equipment that's not yet ready...thereby delaying the ships..hope this changes.. Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 09:26, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
while that may be true, i feel bureaucratic mismanagement of the projects such as not ordering equipment and underestimating the amount of work required generally cause far more delays. Pvpoodle (talk) 20:23, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Villages

Hi Strike, For Orphaned villages what to do to de-orphan them? Also, see this this and tagges by me to merge.--Vin09 (talk) 17:54, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

If more than 2 pages link to the village page, feel free to remove the tag. For finding how many link to the page;
Tools→What Links here....
Will see the merge proposals tomorrow..badly need sleep now...Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 18:31, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
thanks, links in the sense wikilinking right? Like Prakasam district and Andhra Pradesh in that village page?--Vin09 (talk) 03:25, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
No...you must wikilink the village from some other pages...like linking the village in Andhra Pradesh or any other article which has mention about it... ƬheStrikeΣagle 09:20, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Suggest one example of any article of village related to Andhra Pradesh.--Vin09 (talk) 09:50, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Maybe like Mandals of X District or the main district page... ƬheStrikeΣagle 14:10, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

new video

Adm D.K Joshi talks about sindurakshak and his resignation. reveals a lot about the corruption and incompetence going on in the MOD, sad to see this s**t is still going on.

link Pvpoodle (talk) 23:50, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, I read one article at the time of his resignation that all the accidents were factored because the current chief Dhowan is related to someone close to Sonia....I'm glad that government is gone.....hope the current one doesn't repeat the same mistakes.. ƬheStrikeΣagle 14:10, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Too bad, the video is down now, cause "they" dont want the truth to get out!! ;) Journalistic ethics are at an all time low in this country, with all the paid media going around. which coincidentally was one of the things discussed in the video. The Dhowan thing is just not true. some people keep making up that false claim because his first name Robin sounds christian (he actually isn't), and so is sonia / ak anthony / some random person from the west. By all accounts he is a very good officer and more importantly a competent one. We have had both good and bad officers and service chiefs who were christian / hindu / Muslim / Sikh, i mean we have even had Jews(gen jacob from 71) , Zoroastrian (gen manekshaw), Buddhists , jains , and who knows what else. i think its time some A**H***s give up trying to slander someone just because he/she holds different or no religious views due to their own personal prejudiced, rather than accept the fact that they are all Indian, and blood loyalties come first for many especially those in the armed forces. Pvpoodle (talk) 18:03, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Whoah you seem to be pretty angry with me!!   Dhowan is surely one hell of a soldier(and patriot).....but paid media yeah! But I'm pretty sure all of the accidents were not natural(and I stand by my word)....maybe they didn't like Joshi's policies...dirty politics everywhere! ƬheStrikeΣagle 14:53, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
not angry with you, i am angry that this same old sh*t still gets pull up where religion or cast or "im north indian / im south indian" or "im one shade of complexion lighter skinned than you, so that must mean im better than you", is given a lot more weight age than it needs to be. I am angry with Indians that we allow this shit to still take place knowing fully well its what still keeps us down. Pvpoodle (talk) 04:16, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

PSLV C26

btw, did you catch the launch last night? i got an amazing show last from my balcony with the naked eye. (i currently live in chennai) caught the first stage separation, bright flash and a streak of flames a couple of inches across the sky , followed by this very bright yellow dot moving pretty fast for about a minute till it was out of sight behind a cloud bank. it was a completely last minute hunch to run from in front of the live telecast to the balcony because it was a night launch, im glad i made that decision but i am still kicking myself for not having time to get hold of the pretty good pair of binoculars i have or making a recording :( Pvpoodle (talk) 18:15, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

I had important things to attend the next day..so unfortunately missed the event! Lucky you are just about 100km from the launch site! I'm 350km from it and find it offensive!    Get a binoculars before the GSLV launch! Quick! ƬheStrikeΣagle 14:53, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
SHAR is actually about 60 km as the crow flies, a little less when you take into account the flight path taken by the launch vehicle. I actually have a pretty good pair of binoculars, just didn't plan things out and didn't have the 1 minute it would have taken to find them. The problem is the next couple of launches might not be night launches and will be too hard to spot :( Pvpoodle (talk) 04:21, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Yea i realized you were somewhere in Andhra considering the number of andhra related articles you edit. You really should consider going on a trip view the launch with your friends, i have been trying for years to get friends to come but they are all jackasses... i might end up going alone if that's what it takes. Pvpoodle (talk) 04:26, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
hehe..same problem here...no one's interested in these tech like I am....do let me know if you ever wish to come..I will try to accompany you   Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 10:59, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

ITN for Cyclone Hudhud

You did a great job as usual! Happy edfiting! --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:44, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot!!   ƬheStrikeΣagle 15:26, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Olympics/Paralympics#Paralympic Challenge Proposal

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Copy-vio

Can you have a glance at this edit, some sentences are exactly copied. So, is it a copy-vio?--Vin09 (talk) 12:11, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

If parts of it is copied..it's known as paraphrasing.....its not fine too.... ƬheStrikeΣagle 12:54, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Check this the user adding content from Kadapa online site.--Vin09 (talk) 16:40, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
  Done Reverted copyvio and warned appropriately...please do warn the one's committing copyvio so that they know the rules of the game here... Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 16:57, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Even I had doubts in that, so I asked you. In order to notify using twinkle what is the warn code in that?--Vin09 (talk) 16:58, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Go for single issue warning section...you will find Copyright Violation there... Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 17:07, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Tissanayagam Family

Dear Strike eagle - there are other users who are vandalising the site so the family would like the site taken down! Can you help me get that done?

Thanks

jehan Bastians — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jehanbastians (talkcontribs) 07:08, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

PyongSu Pharma

Please delete the wikipedia page about PyongSu Pharma. It does not reflect what the company is today. Felix Abt has not been involved with PyongSu in any way since he left in March 2009. With best regards, PyongSu — Preceding unsigned comment added by PyongSu (talkcontribs) 07:35, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Copy-vio

Can you have a glance at this edit, some sentences are exactly copied. So, is it a copy-vio?--Vin09 (talk) 12:11, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

If parts of it is copied..it's known as paraphrasing.....its not fine too.... ƬheStrikeΣagle 12:54, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Check this the user adding content from Kadapa online site.--Vin09 (talk) 16:40, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
  Done Reverted copyvio and warned appropriately...please do warn the one's committing copyvio so that they know the rules of the game here... Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 16:57, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Even I had doubts in that, so I asked you. In order to notify using twinkle what is the warn code in that?--Vin09 (talk) 16:58, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Go for single issue warning section...you will find Copyright Violation there... Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 17:07, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Tissanayagam Family

Dear Strike eagle - there are other users who are vandalising the site so the family would like the site taken down! Can you help me get that done?

Thanks

jehan Bastians — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jehanbastians (talkcontribs) 07:08, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

PyongSu Pharma

Please delete the wikipedia page about PyongSu Pharma. It does not reflect what the company is today. Felix Abt has not been involved with PyongSu in any way since he left in March 2009. With best regards, PyongSu — Preceding unsigned comment added by PyongSu (talkcontribs) 07:35, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

highest grossing telugu films

highest grossing Telugu films is completely speculative and filled with unreliable sources. the article needs redirection, before it is deleted asap. I have corrected the content and included only the template. there is no such thing as 40 crore club, 30 crore club and ten crore club. please redirect the page. Danice thrall (talk) 12:29, 3 November 2014 (UTC)