User talk:Strike Eagle/Archive3
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Austromarrella
It was a type of Marromorph. user:98.177.220.111 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.177.220.111 (talk) 20:46, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
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I am glad you are OK. Keep studying and editing (hopefully focusing more on the former). Take care. Anir1uph | talk | contrib 16:04, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! My house is some 3km from the spot and my college is hardly 100m!..we were left early by 12:30 that day, thank god.Else, I would go through the same road,stop exactly at the same spot(Blast 2), drink soda and then go to the bus stop(Blast 1)....all this in exactly the same time!(6.30-7.00 pm).. TheStrikeΣagle 16:08, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- After months of inactivity, I seem to get some times in weekends now... :) TheStrikeΣagle 16:10, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- I know the feeling - cz of the nature of my dad's job :) On a lighter note, i have always been telling people that missing or leaving school early is always a good idea, now I have proof ;) Also, work hard for your exams. I used to hate doing that, but was rewarded handsomely for some hard work i managed to put in. So it'l work out for you too. And wiki will always be here later :D (sorry for sounding like an older brother :P) Anir1uph | talk | contrib 16:44, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks.. :)...I will TheStrikeΣagle 08:11, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- I know the feeling - cz of the nature of my dad's job :) On a lighter note, i have always been telling people that missing or leaving school early is always a good idea, now I have proof ;) Also, work hard for your exams. I used to hate doing that, but was rewarded handsomely for some hard work i managed to put in. So it'l work out for you too. And wiki will always be here later :D (sorry for sounding like an older brother :P) Anir1uph | talk | contrib 16:44, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Second Opinion (Reply)
Hello Srikar:) I think Metro masti is a Unreliable source, because those figures were not published in any newspaper sites. Also it is impossible for any film to collect like that, especially for Telugu films, even for Top hero's also. If that was true then the IT department will begin the raids on those films producers. I think those were fake figures. According to my opinion, please stay away from that site. Thank you so much for your curiosity to know my opinion. It's the good way. Have a Happy (Day and Editing). :) Raghusri (talk) 09:55, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Hyderabad montage
Hi, May you please help to replace the image of "Skyline at Lanco Hills" from the montage image of Hyderabad, India article with some another skyline image, because the same image is applied in Cityscape section as a panoramic view, which looks quit good here with more clarity. I doubt if we repeat the same images in a article will add a negative response during FA review of the article. Regards --Omer123hussain (talk) 16:40, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
- I tend to agree with you but how unfortunate we have just two images of skyline of India's second tallest city! .I don't mind reverting the image to the previous version.Have a look and tell me if it's ok for you. BTW were you in Hyderabad during the blasts? TheStrikeΣagle 12:57, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- Don't know why it was uploaded twice, i think we shall remove one image from wiki-commons also, any way please do not revert the entire montage to old version, but if possible replace the current montage skyline only. If you could not find any other better image we can remove the panoramic image from Landmark section, we have enough time for this no hurry.
- Currently, I am not in Hyderabad, I stay in Abu Dhabi, UAE. I watched your uploaded image of ground zero, I think unfortunately you experienced that situation, the most heart breaking thing is the loss of those families who lost there members for ever, which cannot be filled by anyone's sympathy or aid. Regards --Omer123hussain (talk) 22:16, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
- Two versions had different formats....PNG version was significantly better than JPEG(you can spot the differences very easily).Anyway,I won't be editing for atleast 3 weeks starting from tomorrow due to exams. I shall upload a new version by 20-21st of March if you don't mind. CHeers TheStrikeΣagle 08:11, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- Take your time for modification, best of luck for your exams. Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 21:41, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- Two versions had different formats....PNG version was significantly better than JPEG(you can spot the differences very easily).Anyway,I won't be editing for atleast 3 weeks starting from tomorrow due to exams. I shall upload a new version by 20-21st of March if you don't mind. CHeers TheStrikeΣagle 08:11, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
WikiProject Cleanup
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Article Feedback deployment
Hey Strike Eagle; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:25, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Naan Ee
this very reliable source [1] states that the Tamil film Naan Ee (also shot in Telugu as Eega) grossed ₹125 crores. why u say it did not? Kailash29792 (talk) 16:23, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Read the source carefully.It says Eega and Naan Ee together grossed about 125 crore...and I have provided you sources that say Naan Ee's share in that was 25 crore.So the rest 100 crore is of Eega.When you are so interested and fight for a separate article for this tamil blockbuster why do you want to add the box office of its dubbing!? TheStrikeΣagle 15:16, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- U are not scolding me by any chance, are u? anyway, it is not a dubbed film, and other editors are apparently working to build it up. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:25, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- No, I'am not.Anyway, please see User:Strike Eagle/Eega (2012 film) and tell me your opinion.This AfD seems to lead us nowhere.A combined article would make some sense, in my opinion. TheStrikeΣagle 15:38, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- This convinces me that both films should share an article named Fly (2012 film). Kailash29792 (talk) 16:16, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- Comon man...why should we change the name of the movie to suit our needs!? :o) The national award for VfX was given to Eega, not Naan Ee.Maybe that's enough to prove it was a telugu movie afterall. ⱾҾ 16:22, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- This convinces me that both films should share an article named Fly (2012 film). Kailash29792 (talk) 16:16, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- No, I'am not.Anyway, please see User:Strike Eagle/Eega (2012 film) and tell me your opinion.This AfD seems to lead us nowhere.A combined article would make some sense, in my opinion. TheStrikeΣagle 15:38, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- U are not scolding me by any chance, are u? anyway, it is not a dubbed film, and other editors are apparently working to build it up. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:25, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Please comment on my suggestion
FYI - reply
Dear Srikar, what happened with me to that user was a mistake. Twinkle is a computer program with set of tools to welcome, warn users and to revert the vandalized revisions, but sad thing here is there is no such customization in this tool to select which revision to be reverted. If there are some good and bad edits in previous revisions to an article, if we revert with this tool it will revert all the revisions. Better to modify the script in that tool. I am informing you for your misunderstanding, that is my intention is not to bite newcomers. You can check my each contribution to new or shared IP's. I am welcoming each and warning if their edits are nonconstructive or test or something else. I want to tell you the thing that TheRedPenOfDoom user has deleted the Awards and nomination, sequel and 123Telugu (stating unreliable), disturbed the template above the Eega article. His edits were bad. User Murrallli did the right way. But i mistakenly warned him. So that a edit war between us started. That leaded to report him in ARIV. Actually i didn't abused or accused him. I just stated Nonconstructive edits in intermediate revisions. This is the clean version. That's it. Twinkle did all the thing. He too reverted after the reversion held by me. He too did a mistake. Finally you can see in my talk page that how his rude behaviour is and also in TheRedPenOfDoom talk page commenting me that i am a fool. Actually he don't know how to behave with established users. Mistakes will happen when working with Computer programs. We have to understand others. Also i replaced that producer name which was gone while reverting. I hope you understand by this, what was happened. I am telling you this thing to clarify the matter. Thank you. Raghusri (talk) 12:26, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Srikar for trying to resolve the issue between us. Keep it up. Have a good day and happy editing. Raghusri (talk) 11:55, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
about user raghusri
this user raghusri is issuing block warnings to me for word disambiguation and spelling issues on wikipedia, the user raghusri has issued block warnings to me 3-4 times and is abusing me, (he has no idea what wikipedia is) i need ur intervention, he is mistaking spelling issues, with vandalizing a page, poor guyMurrallli (talk) 14:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- This is a rather interesting case.Please accuse other users though you think he accuses you.See WP:Comment on content, not on the contributor.BTW can you give me the links in which Raghusri marked your edits as vandalism? Cheers TheStrikeΣagle 15:57, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
sorry
sorry sir,forgive my inexperience but can you please look at this article and remove the afd if you feel so.TRAI Bangalore Regional Office Uncletomwood (talk) 15:02, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
- No apologies needed sir.It's common for new users to make mistakes and it's completely acceptable.Anyway, beware while tagging new articles for AfD and CSD.Not all users are soft and could lead to warnings and in the worst cases, block. Cheers and Welcome to this world! Cheers TheStrikeΣagle 15:10, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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THANK YOU FOR SHOWING A NEW EDITOR THE WAY AROUND AND IMPRESSIVE ARTICLES YOU HAVE CREATED. Uncletomwood (talk) 15:19, 23 March 2013 (UTC) |
- You are welcome sir.Glad to see scholars from India making their way into Wikipedia TheStrikeΣagle 15:43, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Some stroopwafels for you!
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strike
aye,aye captain! Uncletomwood (talk) 13:44, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Caucasian Riviera
Hello Strike Eagle, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Caucasian Riviera, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: There is sufficient context to identify the subject of the article. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. ϢereSpielChequers 18:05, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: User:Hannah Elizabeth Gwillim White
Hello Strike Eagle. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:Hannah Elizabeth Gwillim White, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: It's a bit quick to nominate a page in userspace. If it's still there in a week, then it might be worth going. . Thank you. GedUK 13:43, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
You're really an eagle.
Hey, and welcome to Wikipedia. In courtesy of the Pentium III article, basically, the "(stylisted as pentium PROCESSOR !!!)" should not be removed. Let's say if you removed "stylisted and marketed as Mac mini" if you are editing the Mac mini Article: Your change will be quickly reverted. Evidence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f1w8qr9PfE Applist (talk) 15:20, 26 March 2013 (UTC) Feel free to talk with me!
- Thanks for welcoming me to wikipedia exactly 2 years after I have entered it! :).BTW I don't bother if it is called PROCESSOR!!! or processor??? or processor!?!?!?....get me a reliable source and feel free to revert me. Cheers TheStrikeΣagle 15:24, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks
for the barnstar. I did get a barnstar which referred to my sandbox once. As to the page, it's just growed (like Topsy). Help yourself to any appropriate userboxes. (I pinched most of them and someone made some for me which don't really work. I did make the Thief one.... ) Peridon (talk) 23:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
BANNED~!
- Hey, are you aware that User:Chanakyathegreat is a BANNED editor since 2010 for his multiple violations of WP policies as well for socking? IF no, please in future do not use anything he uploads to WP for reuse on any project (Such as File:P15A graphic.png, which is slated for deletion for unattributed source/license for reuse). Note also that continued contact with the subject in question will and can lead to you being investigated for close association and/or conflict of interest. You seemed like a nice guy, my apologies for the harsh words to you. In short, just stay away from the condemned person lest you want to get into trouble. --Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 14:37, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm aware that CTG is a banned user for multiple-account abuse.Infact I have reported one of his socks some time ago! I apologize for having to try to contact the user for the image I wanted.I better be more careful now.I don't want a fucking SPI on me now.. :) Thanks for the notice. Cheers TheStrikeΣagle 15:35, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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thank you strike eagle for your efforts at helping me feel that Wikipedia is a stress buster and also a stress giver.I must appreciate your brilliant understanding of Wikipedia laws and your kind helpful words to other users.Keep it up,you have a bright future Uncletomwood (talk) 00:57, 29 March 2013 (UTC) |
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- Thanks..and replied! :) TheStrikeΣagle 06:41, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Strike Eagle/Archive3, here are some delicious cookies to help brighten your day! However, there are too many cookies here for one person to eat all at once, so please share these cookies with at least two other editors by copying {{subst:Sharethecookies}} to their talk pages. Enjoy! Uncletomwood (talk) 10:00, 29 March 2013 (UTC) |
Hodopathy
I created an article on hodopathy,a type of alternative medicine originating in Jharkand,it made no reference to any compan but was speedily deleted under G11?.why?Uncletomwood (talk) 12:48, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you!
Thank you for the pie! I went through your recent edits and found that you've been writing wonderful articles. Keep up the good work! Netha (talk) 13:12, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Re: Civility
Hey! Sorry if you felt what I said was rude or disturbing. The phrase "Go home" is a figure of speech, similar in meaning to "let it go" or "enough is enough". And no, I did not contradict myself, I clearly acknowledged the discussion had drifted into a forum and announced I would no longer participate. Good day, and enjoy your studies!!! Antiochus the Great (talk) 22:21, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Reward for those involved in April's First pranks
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Thank you
Thanks for the barnstar. Usually almost all India-related articles that approach FA status make me excited! Plus, Omer, the principal contributor to Hyderabad, really needed some guidance in the initial days (although he has become extremely capable now). SO, that was the story. Are you Hyderabadi?--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:05, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Hyderabad montage
Hi, hope you did well in exams :) I hope the current montage is excellent, really you did a excellent work to prepare it. I hope that montage's bottom skyline will get constructed very soon and we may apply those in montage to look more better. Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 21:01, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: User:Rebsec
Hello Strike Eagle. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:Rebsec, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: No need to delete user page. G7 is not an explicit request for user pages, not to be confused with U1. Thank you. Alexf(talk) 13:42, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Sorry
sorry to see you on a wikibreak,email me if you have any technical exam oriented doubts and i will email you with my wiki doubts.Uncletomwood (talk) 06:25, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- Nothing to feel sorry I'm trying not to edit too much so that I don't get addicted and neglect my studies.12th is the most important year! Thanks very much! TheStrikeΣagle 06:32, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Pentium !!! source
The Logo reads pentium !!!. Applist (talk) 06:41, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- Well maybe the logo reads as you say but I didn't find anything in the official website which supports your argument. Hence, I would not add it. Please get some references(like websites or books) which say that it is read like that. Thanks TheStrikeΣagle 06:48, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- Problem Solved TheStrikeΣagle 06:53, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your cooperation!Talk to me? See what I done? I am Applist07:13, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- Problem Solved TheStrikeΣagle 06:53, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
low quality image
I request your kind self to kindly restrain from adding the low quality lanco hills image at old construction site. I request your kind self to stop POV pushing, I also request your kind self to stop adding low quality and low resolution, dusty images. Murrallli (talk) 12:16, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Re:Skyline
Hi, Please response such comments just by smiling :) don’t bother for those, As you know that FAC will definitely ask for repeating two images in one article, any way we can act if they concerns it.
- I would suggest for now if you can help in current montage "Hyderabad montage-2.png" by replacing Birla mandir with night view of the same applied in "Hyderabad montage improved 2.png" that will be more fantastic. Any way its suggestion only, please you may make your own changes. Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 04:15, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Great power article
Hello Strike Eagle, I though I would let you know that India has got its first mention on the Great power article today! A sign that the world is changing! The citation comes from a book written by Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski entitled: 'Strategic Vision: America & the Crisis of Global Power (2012)'. He names China, Russia, Japan, India, the United States, Great Britain, Germany, and France great powers. Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski also considers the European Union as a global power that "could compete to be the world’s number two power, but this would require a more robust political union, with a common foreign policy and a shared defense capability". Hope you see this soon.Antiochus the Great (talk) 19:55, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- There is also a video on Youtube where he disscusses his book: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZp7NSkHlDE very interesting.Antiochus the Great (talk) 19:55, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- Oh cool...just noticed it! Good but considering the current condition of our government, I don't think reaching the status really is possible in this decade! Cheers TheStrikeΣagle 05:23, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Your revert at Boqol Hore
Hi, re this revert - nothing wrong with doing that, but you might like also to take a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Baastow1. I think there's a pattern. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:32, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
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INS Vikramaditya
What do you think of this article? Can we do something to get it to GA? I believe it has the potential. Tell me what we need to do to get it to GA. Regards, Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 06:45, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- I was planning to ask you about this! The article seems to have so much unnecessary info..otherwise it looks in a good shape. I will try to fix them anyway..Also I think we should work on more than one article at a time...for more GAs' In my opinion, A5-01 could make it to GA with a few improvements...what do you say? Cheers TheStrikeΣagle 11:53, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- Oh yes, I agree on all counts.
BTW did Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · count) just forego the review he started on Arihant class submarine? He wrote, "I'll get to this shortly" that was almost two days ago. Apparently, to him, the period of 48 hours is less than "short". Should we give him a ping? Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 06:20, 28 April 2013 (UTC)- The backlog of GAN is horribly high so he might be lurking with something else now. In my opinion, we should wait for a day or two before we remind him again. Apparently, he looks like an expert of the topic and such a reviewer would be good for the article? What do you think? BTW I did some cleanup to Vikra yesterday..I plan to do some more. If you can take care of the History section, I would be greatly happy. Cheers, TheStrikeΣagle 06:25, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Vikra? huh? Nice truncation I must say, seems as though you're talking about your pet . I am a tad busy in my real life but I would do my best. lets hope for the best. Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 12:36, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- hehehe..infact that's the name of the image used in the article...got that idea from there! Cheers, TheStrikeΣagle 12:41, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Vikra? huh? Nice truncation I must say, seems as though you're talking about your pet . I am a tad busy in my real life but I would do my best. lets hope for the best. Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 12:36, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- The backlog of GAN is horribly high so he might be lurking with something else now. In my opinion, we should wait for a day or two before we remind him again. Apparently, he looks like an expert of the topic and such a reviewer would be good for the article? What do you think? BTW I did some cleanup to Vikra yesterday..I plan to do some more. If you can take care of the History section, I would be greatly happy. Cheers, TheStrikeΣagle 06:25, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Oh yes, I agree on all counts.
Thanks for the barnstar!
Whenever I see the "You have new messages (last changes)" notification, I just assume I must have screwed up something. But thanks to you and another Wikipedian, I feel more encouraged! Thanks again!
PS: We seem to have a lot in common: I'm an Indian too! --smtchahal(talk) 07:56, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Yep, that's the reason why it is called the Orange bar of doomTM TheStrikeΣagle 08:15, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
I cannot realize, and work together with dominating editors, if u wish, u can create any POV to block me
Thank you Thanks a lot for ur dominations
EU
Dear Strike Eagle,
There is a reliable source AND there is a note precising that the EU is not a real country yet. Therefore, the EU has the right to appear on this list, as it appears on many other lists given that the EU is an "almost-country entity".
Oh and by the way, I invite you to read this: Military of the European Union, Common Security and Defence Policy and Common Foreign and Security Policy.
Atoine85 (talk) 12:00, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- EU is not a country, I pretty well know that. The Military of the European Union articles just gives the cumulative figure of the armed forces of the member states....But I still don't understand how that will make it equal to a sovereign state...I'm out of this issue now...Feel free to revert me and add back EU...I could in no way stand against a whole european POV now... Cheers, TheStrikeΣagle 12:06, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- The EU is not a country sure. But the EU is not a mere cooperation organization. It's close to be a country. And have you read Common Security and Defence Policy? I'm sure you haven't. -- Atoine85 (talk) 12:12, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- It's not a mere cooperation organization....I agree.....but it is more of an economic union than a military. The military treaties they signed only promise to help each other in terms of crisis. Anyway, I'm out of this now. You have reverted me anyway. TheStrikeΣagle 12:19, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- Absolutely not, it's first of all a political union. So it includes economics and military. "The military treaties they signed only promise to help each other in terms of crisis." --> Isn't what we call a military union? -- Atoine85 (talk) 12:24, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- It was first formed as an economic union and slowly transformed into a political union with the addition of some more members. Yes, you are right....it surely is some sort of a military union. But does that mean that they would be using the 1.6 million troops to go to a war. If that's the case, then I would be adding the troop numbers of Shanghai Cooperation Organisation too.. Thanks, TheStrikeΣagle 12:31, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- Actually not really. The EEC was created within an economic perspective but also in order to face the USSR. But things change, one day the EU will be a real federal country.
- And that's irrelevant. The Shangai Cooperation is only a security organization and has nothing like the EU. Do you have a Shangai Cooperation parliament, a single currency, a president elected by the parliament, opened borders, a Shangai Cooperation police? The EU is almost a country, that's why it appears in many lists on Wikipedia. -- Atoine85 (talk) 12:46, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, fine... TheStrikeΣagle 13:15, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)"one day the EU will be a real federal country" —— not in a thousand years and the best part is that it doesn't need to be. It's best the way it is. The assertion that European Union is a country is utterly and absolutely false. Where is the source that says "European Union is a single nation"? Furthermore, why would it be considered a country when it so blatantly is much, much more than that? Notwithstanding the sophistications offered by Atoine, I dare say if EU is a nation then so is North American Union and why not count NATO as a single nation?
We don't liken a group of nations to a single state simply basing on the promises and assumptions regarding who would support whom in the event of a war or any treaty for that matter. A single currency is not a sufficient condition to call some region a nation, is it? The idea of a nation transcends mere Political, economic or military alliances. Although there is a charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, these European countries follow separate constitutions, have separate Heads of State. Follow different forms of government.
They often take very different stance on serious issues, reserve multiple seats at the UN (more than one nation). EU is not a country. Period..Even the suggestion is ludicrous. It is easier said than done, see United States of Europe. Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 12:58, 28 April 2013 (UTC)- There is a big difference between a country and a nation. The United Kingdom is a country but is not a nation, there are 4 nations there. The EU will never be a nation. But will be a country: see this. The EU is not a country yet. But it can be considered as one: a single currency, a parliament, a president, a federal police, opened borders, a citizenship, embassies (YES there are EU embassies all over the world), a minister for foreign affairs, a common small army (see Eurofor and Eurocorps), a single seat in the WTO, it's the only non-sovereign state which have the right to speak within the UNO, EU laws which prevail on national laws............... And so much more. Do the North American Union or the NATO have all these things? Don't think so.... The European Union is closer to be a country than to be a mere cooperation orgazination such as the North American Union.
- And several European leaders such as Angela Merkel and François Hollande called for a political union (so a federal state) for the EU or at least the eurozone, right after the 2014 EU elections (yes because we do have EU elections. Do you have North American elections...?). So yeah...
- Atoine85 (talk) 14:21, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- "a single seat in the WTO" - of course, that's because EU is formed out of a primarily economic union. More precisely, to raise the EU common market. EU's job is more like supervision of the common interest of the member states (from time to time supplies technologies to its members in environmental protection, r&d, and energy), albeit its a new type of structure that does not fall into any conventional legal classification. The EU is funded by contributions of €120 billion a year from member states. It's far from a sovereign country.
- "a common small army (see Eurofor and Eurocorps)" - but you are not referring to the numbers of these armies at the article in question here. You're simply adding up the numbers of separate armies of prominent European Countries. That's synthesis and reflects original or, I ought to say, wishful thinking. My comment still stands.
"a single currency," - wrong, not all states have adopted the currency, but they are still member states. European Union may have a president (Janitor's Union happens to have one too) but that doesn't mean when it comes to serious decisions of individual nations, EU-president's decision takes precedence over the decision of that individual state. The EU is an international organisation, and by some criteria, it could be classified as a confederation.
For it to be a country first we would need either abolishment of the constitutions of individual states with EU constitution taking their place or their integration into EU constitution. Which will in turn mean that demolition of English Monarchy. None of it has happened yet, it's a big step. You might wish to think your dream will someday materialize, but it hasn't happened yet. Some claim that it will never develop into a federal state but has reached maturity as a Supranational organisation.
Unfortunately wikipedia doesn't operate on wishes or assumptions.
Without stretching it further, I would like to see a reliable source that directly supports the data presented on List of countries by number of military and paramilitary personnel. You currently cite Wikipedia page as a source but Wikipedia is not a reliable source. If you can't then I am going to revert you. Well Britannica calls it an "international organization comprising 27 European countries and governing common economic, social, and security policies." Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 16:50, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)"one day the EU will be a real federal country" —— not in a thousand years and the best part is that it doesn't need to be. It's best the way it is. The assertion that European Union is a country is utterly and absolutely false. Where is the source that says "European Union is a single nation"? Furthermore, why would it be considered a country when it so blatantly is much, much more than that? Notwithstanding the sophistications offered by Atoine, I dare say if EU is a nation then so is North American Union and why not count NATO as a single nation?
- Ok, fine... TheStrikeΣagle 13:15, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- It's not a mere cooperation organization....I agree.....but it is more of an economic union than a military. The military treaties they signed only promise to help each other in terms of crisis. Anyway, I'm out of this now. You have reverted me anyway. TheStrikeΣagle 12:19, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- The EU is not a country sure. But the EU is not a mere cooperation organization. It's close to be a country. And have you read Common Security and Defence Policy? I'm sure you haven't. -- Atoine85 (talk) 12:12, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Can I just say Atoine85 that the UK is not a country. It is impossible for the UK to be a country. The UK is a unitary nation state.Antiochus the Great (talk) 14:27, 29 April 2013 (UTC)