User talk:RyanCross/Archive 5/4-13-08

Adminship page

Saw this page and just wanted to give you a nudge about some numbers. You will want to show collaboration and work with the main_talk, wikipedia, and wikipedia_talkspaces as well, it shows good group and dispute resolution skills (the two talkspaces) and familiarity with our best practices and policies (the wikipediaspace). You want to have a good distribution across most of the namespaces (main, user, wikipedia, and image. The Mediawiki-space, being the software interface, is generally left alone). You would do well to emphasize quality of edits as opposed to number, as well. Just hoping you get on the right footing for this, and to let you know that while i endorsed the deletion of your adoption program, it wasnt anything against you as a user per se. :) --M^ask? 02:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

good advice there--we need to see how you discuss policy.DGG (talk) 04:38, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Userpage

Modeled it after jj, huh? Did he comment on it yet? Nothing444 02:53, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll reinsert the talk thing real quick. Nothing444 02:54, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

 Done Talk thing reinserted Nothing444 02:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Who's the original designer? Nothing444 02:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Its more of a semi-wikibreak, in fact, I was just considering going on wikibreak. Im going to take those wikibreak tags off soon. Probably now. Nothing444 02:58, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Great userpage designer. But heres a tip: If you are considering adminship, edit the mainspace more. P.S. Instead of using [[User;RyRy5|RyRy5]], use {{ex|RyRy5}}, as it generates the same exact output, its just faster. Nothing444 03:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

New userpage

RyRy, I really think it looks good. If you enjoy doing that sort of work, have you thought about getting involved in portals? Portals design good-looking layouts for groups of similar interests, and it's a much needed area for help. - Philippe 03:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Uh... RyRy5, do you think you can design WP:LINY, like you designed WP:BOSOX? Nothing444 03:03, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Ahh... Oreo. Now, hes one talented user. I gonna ask him later. Right now, I'm making a userbox for WP:LINY. Nothing444 03:08, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Just finished the userbox. Anyway, may I have your opinion on the newsletter? Nothing444 03:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

User talk templates

Hi. When you're adding a standard warning template to user talk as in this example, please remember to add "subst:" to the template. For example {{subst:uw-test1}}. WP:SUBST gives additional info on this. Thanks! --- Taroaldo (talk) 03:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I dont think its really nessesary for that template. Nothing444 03:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Nothing444, please explain in detail how you arrived at that conclusion. -- Taroaldo (talk) 04:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Matter of form

I was looking at Special:Contributions/RyRyBot. While I can understand using the account to request a monobook clearing, it is generally considered extremely poor form to use a bot account to carry on a discussion as you did with User:Nothing444. Using a bot to make test edits in your userspace (to say perfect a signature or template) is fine, but using it to carry on a conversation with another user should be avoid. Thanks. MBisanz ^talk 03:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Review thanks

Hi RyRy5, thanks very much for taking the time to review me, much appeciated! Best, PeterSymonds | talk 08:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

User/Talk page design

I really admire your user & talk page. I hope you don't mind, but I created my own version of yours. I'm pretty sure it's Ok with you, right?--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 02:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure is, i have no objections to people copying part or all of my user page. In fact i take doing that as a compliment, as it means people like the page i made :). The only things i would like to request (Though i don't insist on that) is that the little bar at the bottom of my main page is kept intact in some form that signals its an omega purple adaption. Again not insisting, just requesting. Oh, and in case you need a little help with customization of the template, drop a line; im happy to give a few pointers if you want to add your own colors, links or something like that :) Excirial ^{(Talk,Contribs)} 09:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Also, you do know the User:Jj137 has a design similar, right?--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 17:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

*Nods* He asked permission some time ago. There are actually several users i know of using my template; The majority asked if it was ok which i really appreciate. There are also several users that use the template without ever asking, but as long as they don't claim they made it, its a "Dully noted" for me. If someone would claim they made it themselves, well, i would be a lot less lenient about that i think :) Excirial ^{(Talk,Contribs)} 21:18, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

User:RyRy5/Admin Coaching

I created the page.   jj137 (talk) 15:03, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I know about the templates, I told him on his talkpage. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 17:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

RYRy, Pease update your status. Also, when are you available to scout? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 17:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I mean the newsletter. In different WikiProjects its very different. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 17:47, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I was so eager I alrady created one. I have the code save to the computer already. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 17:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, you seem like you love designing userspace. I'll tell you how to do the stuff you love in a productive way. Say on your userpage that "I design portals, so if you need a portal designed see my talkpage" Designing portals is a good idea to do what you love to do in a productive way. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 18:08, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

If you're gonna design a portal, might as well design Portal:Long Island or open up Portal:BoSox. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 18:23, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you help with li portal? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 18:55, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, maybe you could help me on redesigning my WikiProject. Make a sandbox subpage to get started on it.I already made the left panel at User:Nothing444/liny/leftpanel. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 19:00, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, its pretty good. But the "Scope" headline needs a little fixing up. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 20:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Mainspace

RyRy, I'm really pleased to hear that you're focusing on the mainspace. I think that's critically important, and it's at the core of what we do as an encyclopedia. I'm very pleased; thank you for letting me know. Please continue to keep me updated, and know that you can always ask me any questions that you have. I may not know the answers, but I will help you find someone who does. - Philippe 19:43, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

A few weeks ago I created an article on Donald Honig, a baseball writer. I found the idea to do that at WP:Most wanted articles. As I told you before, WP:Most wanted articles gives you a most splendid idea on what articles are needed. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 21:03, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

In about 3-4hours I will mail out the new newsletter for WP:LINY. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 21:17, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes but in wikitime, its been two days. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 21:23, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Its okay. Check out Portal:Long Island now. Its getting big. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 21:25, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

That comment reminds me of the cool xabal. Remember, I know all the Randy Jackson phrases by heat but choose not to say them. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 21:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Design

Cool. I like it. - Milk's favorite Cookie 21:41, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Links

I noticed that you add a large number of links to Wikipedia articles. From looking at the links I get the impression that you do not contemplate your changes for a lot of time. I found links to synonyms (eg. Bank), links to words only marginally related to the article's topic (remember that WP:NOT#DICTIONARY) and worst of all, several changes in a section in Kate which was obviously vandalism. I wonder why you failed to noticed that, didn't you read the paragraph before changing it?

Please apply at least as much care to main space edits as you obviously do while editing your userpage. WP:NOT#MYSPACE --87.189.118.77 (talk)

Sorry, I didn't know that. I will look alot more carefully on this. Thanks for giving me the notice.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 21:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

You didn't know what? --87.189.118.77 (talk)

Lost Replies

Please don't distribute discussion across Wikipedia. --87.189.118.77 (talk)

Again, please don't put parts of a discussion on my userpage (or anywhere else for that matter). If you want to make a reply, reply where the question was, not at some different page. Why would that make sense? --87.189.118.77 (talk)

Oh, I thought that was OK to do, talking to anonymous users on their talk pages.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 21:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

BTW, I was talking to you on your talk page, not your userpage. I would never talk on a userpage.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 21:58, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure it is ok, but why would you spread a single discussion over two pages? What if a third person enters the discussion, do you write you replies twice? --87.189.118.77 (talk)

It's what many users do. Example:User:??? talks to User:!!!. User:!!! replies to that message on User:??? talkpage. User::??? replies to that 2nd message on User:!!! talk page ect. If a third person joins, the third person ussually replies on User:!!! talk page. Do you understand?--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 22:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Do I understand? I understand how it is done, I don't understand why it would be desirable to spread a discussion over two pages. --87.189.118.77 (talk)

Well, many uses (like me) like doing that. I would say that over 80% of users do that. BTW, you should get a wikipedia account.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 22:13, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Where do you get that number from? I see distributed discussions from time to time, but not nearly as often as normal ones. Also, why it would it be desirable to spread a discussion over two pages even if most people would do it?

I have an account, I just don't want to use it at the moment. Thanks for the tip. --87.189.118.77 (talk)

The number was my own opinion. Many users I have met have been doing that. And your second question, it's just what people do.

Ok, look at a random page and look at the talk pages of the last five editors who worked on it. What do you see, distributed or normal discussions? --87.189.118.77 (talk)

Can I have your account link?--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 22:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Why would I work as an IP if I would spill my account if asked? Sorry, I want to remain anonymous. (It's a nice experience BTW, you should try once in a while.) --87.189.118.77 (talk)

It's Ok. I do suggest using your account more often, since user accounts are way more important than IP addresses.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 22:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, well, I'm not here to be important, I'm here to write an encyclopedia. --87.189.118.77 (talk)

That too. Well, nice meeting you. I hope I can come across your account some day. Cheers.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 22:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

User accounts don't make people "more important" than anonymous editors. Enigma ^msg 22:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

<sigh/> RyRy5, why do you think it would make sense if you would post your answer to this on another page? --87.189.114.149 (talk)

Umm, who are you? How do you know me if you only have 1 edit? No offense.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 23:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Does it matter who I am? This discussion is about keeping discussions on one page. You just spread it out again. (For the record, my IP just changed, my provider does that sometimes. I'm the same guy as 87.189.118.77.) --87.189.114.149 (talk)

I forgot, thanks again. But this is probably going to be my only disscusion to hold on 1 page, unless requested to be held on a different page.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 23:16, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Did you have a look at the random pages as suggested? --87.189.114.149 (talk)

Clarification please?RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 23:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

My suggestion from here. --87.189.114.149 (talk)

Oh, sorry. Most of them were assesment ratings. Most of the comments were about the article.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 23:25, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you understand what he said. But I'll take up the challenge and answer the question. Enigma ^message Review 17:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

My random article was Dawn of the Dead (2004) characters. User:Sceptre does cross-posting. USS Noob Hunter is a Newb. Before that is a Bot. User:Shaheenjim is a big-time cross-poster. Too lazy to go back further. However, I do agree with the IP's POV. Enigma ^message Review 17:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Long Island Volume 1, Issue 2

The Long Island WikiProject Newsletter
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Delievered by Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 22:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter

Which one do you like better? You know, I planned this one. I stored the code for this issu on a website so I later I could put it here. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 22:41, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Admin Coaching

Im looking into admin coaching. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:40, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

i'm asking Malinaccier. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:43, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I wished I knew that. Well, jj is offline (or so claims to be). If you catch him online, tell him that I want to know if he could be my admin coach. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:47, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I was, but it's getting increasingly hard to balance 4 coachees. Malinaccier (talk) 23:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

When did jj say that? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:54, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Jj137's a good coach. Nice job on your userpage. Malinaccier (talk) 23:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

jj proably knows me somehow through you and oreo, thats how I know him Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Most likely February-March 2009. Will you still be on Wikipedia then? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

 Done Added a baseball template at bottom of userpage. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:20, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm on it! Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, cant find one. I'll keep looking, but I doubt I'll find anuthing. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I see you're going for admin coaching. Could you consider stopping editing userspace completely and start editing mainspace, or other encyclopedia related pages? I'll be honest - you wouldn't stand a chance of passing without doing that. You really do need to get out of userspace. Ryan Postlethwaite 01:16, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

To be fair, Ryan, my edit count was like that as recently as two months before my own RfA. Quality of edits is far more important than quantity of edits. If you can reel out a few good articles are at least a batch of DYKs, RyRy, the average RfA voter would count your mainspace work healthy. I'd also be willing to co-coach you if you like. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 17:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I don't mind. I left a note at the coaching page. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 02:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I actually don't know anything about how that happened, but if it could be described as a conflict, sure. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 02:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

No. I know how it works, and that many people use it, but I would really prefer not to. Hope you understand. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 15:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

You have messages on your coaching page. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 16:03, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Userspace

Well done. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 01:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Mainspace

That's great, RyRy! That's really great progress. By the way, I'm going through and closing AfDs and am very pleased to see that you're commenting on AfDs, too. I'll be traveling tomorrow and the next day, by the way, and may be difficult to contact for a few days, but it doesn't mean I'm not still interested in your progress. I'm really pleased with how you're doing the last couple of days. - Philippe 02:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep, he was blocked for abusing multiple accounts. - Philippe 02:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

It looks like that adoption program is already up for MfD. I'll look at it and make my opinion known, I'm sure. :-) - Philippe 02:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure, you're welcome to drop them on my talk page (please put them in a separate header - something like "adoption programs to look at"). I'm trying to get through some backlogged AfDs right now, and that's my priority for the next little while, but I absolutely will look at them. - Philippe 02:39, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Adoption

Since you're shutting down the program I have decided to not be adopted by anybody at this time. I think that teaching other people about Wikipedia would make you more knowledgeable about it though. Thank you for your help, I think it has set me on the right path. Axecution (talk) 04:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

editor review

thank you for the review. I'll gladly take your advice in the coming months and years to come. Its so nice to be average for once, usually I'm at one end or the other;) Thank you again and you have a very nice user page--Pewwer42  Talk  22:02, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

You had an extra letter in your friend book, so I removed it. Hope you don't mind.--Pewwer42  Talk  22:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Offer

Sure, if you're wanting to commence Wikipedia 101 and get me up to snuff for possible adminship, sure thing I'll take your offer. ESCStudent774441 (talk) 23:16, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

10,000?>

Read the edit summary. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 00:03, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I didn't celebrate. I'm not doing that anymore (but if you guessed Milk's Favorite Cookie, you're somewhat right). Basketball110 _{pick away...} 00:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Your signature, take 2

Have you noticed yet, that every single editor that you've encountered over the last few days, both admins and editors, have a signature that does not have a "font sixe" in the markup? Just wondering why, as a potential admin candidate, you insist on having a signature that is larger than everyone else's signature. Wondering if you would be willing, as a valued contributor to Wikipedia, to remove the "font size" from your signautre altogether and just let it be default size? Looking forward to your reply. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I didn't say you have to do anything. I was just wondering if you had noticed that every other editor, at least those that were considering adminship, as you are, do not have any "font" size as part of their signature. I'm not mad (and you said you weren't either, which is good), I was just wondering, that's all. I would strongly recommend that you get rid of any "size" portion of your signature, if you want to be taken seriously, that's all. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'll explain what I mean by "taken seriously". I think you are a good editor. If you were to run through "requests for adminship" right now, though, I personally think that you would find that you would have more opposers than supporters. Most successful RfAs are for editors that have A)been here for a while, and B)not been involved in major controversies, and C). Not been subject to deletion of their subpages, and D), have proven that they are here to make a better encyclopedia. I'm very glad you are submitting something for FA. That's a good sign! However, I am not convinced, based on your experience, that you would make a good admin candidate, or that you see Wikipedia in the right context. I believe, based on my experience, that you see Wikipedia as a social construct/place to meet friends. I don't see you contributing much to th ebetterment of the "book of free knowledge". Your "signature size" is a side issue, as far as I'm concerned, but at the same time, it's a distraction. Why, (and I've asked you this before), do you insist on having your signature "larger" than everyone else's? I'm baffled by this. I think, personally, that "size 3" is a compromise. At the same time, I strongly believe that you shouldn't care how big your signature is if you really care about the quality of Wikipedia. Why, if I may ask, do you feel that your signature, as a relatively new contributor to this place, should be bigger than everyone else's signature? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

No, I have no other comments. I think that you need to focus on Wikipedia, instead of Wikipedian editors, but you know that. Also, I think you should change your signature to not have any "size" parameter, and just let it be the same size as all the rest of the text. You are a good editor, and I'm glad you're here, regardless of our disagreements. I hope you will understand where I'm coming from. I don't want you to leave, I simply want you to fit in, and achieve the goals that you have said explicitly on your userpage that you want to achieve. Best of luck to you RyRy. I hope you simplify (make smaller) your signature, and I hope you stay on Wikipedia. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Online/offline

Do you think jj is online? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Got any ideas for what I can edit? If you don't, then I might try SuggestBot. You should too. Its part of my mainspace rush. I almost have 500 mainspace edits. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I will try to get Jesus up to FA status. But it will be hard with all that vandalism going on in that article. same thing with Roger Clements. Everyone thinks hes taking steroids, which is getting really controversial. Still, its a challenge. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I found a Red Sox Standings table. I transcluded it onto your userpage. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:29, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

How do you like the template? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Wanna join WikiProject LA Dodgers? I dont know if you like them, but im signing up (Joe Torre is there) Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

(oops) I thought it was created. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:43, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: New design

I like it - it's certainly a lot more minimalist than what you had before. I'm glad to see you're focusing more on the mainspace and have struck up a rapport with Philippe and jj137, two very competent administrators who'll be able to guide you when necessary. You certainly have a lot of potential to become a really good editor here, and I'm pleased to see that you're taking steps to realizing it. east.718 at 01:09, April 8, 2008

I think you should stay away from FAC until you get a better understanding of it. First of all, it doesn't work on the traditional voting model; rather, people post concerns about the article's quality. If all significant concerns brought up are fixed, the featured article director will promote the article. Also, Jesus has a long way to go before it becomes a "finished" article, and the pace of growth looks slow to me for now. I'm afraid you may have caught the regular contributors to that article off-guard by submitting it to FAC so early. east.718 at 01:46, April 8, 2008

And what makes you think I'm doing anything at this time? (hint hint) ;-) Keep up the good work! east.718 at 06:49, April 8, 2008

Jesus

Have you worked or otherwise watched this article develop before? It's an article of very cautious growth, and I don't think the regular contributors would be too happy if you caught them before they were done. bibliomaniac15 Hey you! Stop lazing around and help fix this article instead! 01:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

It's already been removed by SandyGeorgia, who is an assistant Featured Article coordinator. bibliomaniac15 Hey you! Stop lazing around and help fix this article instead! 01:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

You should really ask the regular contributors. I've followed discussion about the article for some time and it's apparent that there's still work that needs to be done, particularly because Jesus is such a controversial topic. bibliomaniac15 Hey you! Stop lazing around and help fix this article instead! 01:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Jesus FAC withdrawn

I appreciate you're acting in good faith but it's best if featured articles are nominated by people who have worked closely on them. This way they can give reasoned replies to reviewers and be familiar with the sources to make any suggested improvements. Someone who hasn't worked on the article can't provide this input, so the FAC rumbles on until the opposes become so overwhelming that the article is failed, taking a lot of reviewers' time. I suggest you first work an article up through peer review and good article to prepare for WP:FAC, and see the instructions at the top of WP:FAC regarding notification of principle editors before nomination. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad you agree; withdrawing a premature nom takes almost 20 minutes and six edits :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Controversial topics

One of the important parts of building an online encyclopedia is ensuring, as much as possible, that we don't offend people and that we represent a world view, not one that is specific to the country we are in. On your recent FA nomination of Jesus you suggested a few things that may not really fit in with these aims.

For instance, Jesus is clearly a controversial figure. Christian's believe he is the Son of God, etc, and to Christians Jesus is obviously an important figure. However, to claim that, and I quote, "Jesus is a really special person around the world and in (most) peoples lives" both shows a point of view and is not entirely accurate - for only around a quarter of people on this planet (and that's a generous percentage) identify as Christians.

So, globally, Jesus is not "a really special person around the world in (most) peoples lives". And as a global encyclopedia, we have to strive to reflect that. Thanks George The Dragon (talk) 02:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:OVERLINKing

RyRy5, I've also noticed that you're spending a lot of time and edits adding links to articles such as Roger Clemens. Please be aware of WP:OVERLINKing; adding too many links to articles is not good editing practice. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:11, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Slow and easy is good

Hey, I noticed it looks like you're going down a list, getting involved in various things like featured article nominations, in an apparent preparation for being an admin. Adminship isn't something to prepare for, and it's not something you get after checking items off a list. I would advise you to take it slow and easy. Maybe get yourself adopted or otherwise find a mentor. Wikipedia is a big place and learning it takes time. Jumping into stuff like featured articles when there's still so much to learn may not be the best approach. Right now, being eager is one of your strongest qualities as an editor. But beware of being too eager. I noticed you've been asking for rollback, starting immediately after it was taken away. This is too eager, don't you think? You'll learn far better if you go at an appropriate pace, rather than jumping into a bunch of new things all at once. For adminship, I'd say put it out of your head for, say, a year- or maybe wait til your mentor nominates you, assuming you get a mentor. Instead of thinking you need to learn everything, focus on one or two things. Say, new pages patrol. I see you've already tagged some things for deletion, including a few successfully-deleted articles in just the last couple days. That's great; it's valuable work that needs done. It's a great way to learn what kind of content we can or cannot use. Anyway, I just wanted to pop in and say keep up the good work, but be careful of trying go too fast. You'll have a better time if you slow it down a bit. There is no race. Friday (talk) 02:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, be aware that you should never delete another editors' comments. [1] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

No, it wasn't right; look at the RfA now, and see I how I commented and moved it out of the tally without deleting another editors' comment. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

You have an admin coach, or coaches? Who are they? Friday (talk) 13:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Spencer

You're sure that he is a duplicate voter? By the way, next time you do, just replace the # sign with two colons, and leave a note underneath saying that you removed a duplicate voter. SandyGeorgia did that for you, it looks. bibliomaniac15 Hey you! Stop lazing around and help fix this article instead! 02:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Page

It looks good. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

About? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Thanks

No problem. I was using an auto-tag script and it didn't catch an edit conflict. — Bob • (talk) • 04:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Indeed it is. I should consider pasting it on the WP:CSD page for community use, perhaps. It's just been sitting on my page for quite a while. — Bob • (talk) • 04:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

List of Tabla Players

I was trying to figure out how to link the Category:Tabla_Players page with the main wikipedia article on Tabla. Being unsuccessful earlier, I created the new page. However, this has been sorted out now. I have no problems if the new page is deleted. Thanks and sorry for the bother. I am a bit of a noob at wikipedia. Truetyper (talk) 04:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks sir

See you in the morning. I need some serious sleep. ESCStudent774441 (talk) 04:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Your Adoption Program

Since you are no longer adopting, and if you get people asking to be adopted by you, please feel free to refer them to me. Thanks! - DiligentTerrier (and friends) 16:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Boston Red Sox/Motivation

I understand the purpose of this, but what exactly will it be "used" for?   jj137 (talk) 16:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I know that; what I am trying to say is, do we really need it?   jj137 (talk) 20:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree with Jj137 here. It appears to be pretty unnecessary. Metros (talk) 20:30, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:WikiProject Boston Red Sox/Scouting Office

Wikipedia:WikiProject Boston Red Sox/Scouting Office, a page you created, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Boston Red Sox/Scouting Office and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:WikiProject Boston Red Sox/Scouting Office during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Metros (talk) 20:29, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Long Island Volume 1, Issue 3

The Long Island WikiProject Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 3 • April 9, 2008 • About the Newsletter
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Delievered by Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia lessons

When you get this, first lesson I think should be a refresher on the Five Pillors. ESCStudent774441 (talk) 00:33, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Bot

Can I have the source code for your bot as an example for mine? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Please stop offering to mentor other editors

Have you forgotten that your adoption program was deleted because you're not qualified to try to teach people about Wikipedia? You're a new editor yourself and you have much to learn. Please stop presenting yourself as an experienced editor and offering to teach others. You are not yet qualified for this type of job. Friday (talk) 01:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, he is qualified, per the criteria. RC-0722 ^247.5/1 01:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

You say this because he has some number that is bigger than some other number? I believe a more detailed analysis is possible- in fact, a more detailed analysis has already happened. See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User:RyRy5/Adoption Program where several editors rightly pointed out that RyRy is not qualified to adopt, and indeed was giving out bad advice. Friday (talk) 13:48, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

No, all I am saying is is that according to the criteria already listed he is allowed to adopt. RC-0722 ^247.5/1 20:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Some folks you might ask

Sure! I'd start with: User:Ryan Postlethwaite User:Alison User:Yamla User:FisherQueen and User:SatyrTN

There are tons more that I trust implicitly, but these are the ones that I initially think would suit your personality best. Note that these are all very strong editors: they're going to be folks who set high standards and accept nothing else. Occasionally one or two of them can come off as abrasive, but they're almost never wrong. These are also folks with whom I feel free to disagree; they make solid policy based decisions. - Philippe 02:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter 2

Indeed. But for the Boston Sox, it is a bad start (they're such a good team). Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, it reports on the number of members, and that's okay. It doesn't need deleting. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I commented ^{Beware of canvassing, though}. Well, I've got to go back to "the war." Cheers, Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Adoption

I wasn't seeking adoption at this time. Whether you do or not I leave for you to decide. ESCStudent774441 (talk) 03:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Bot

Whats AVP? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:22, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you teach me to do pywikipedia, or can you make me a bot? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Do I create an account first, even though I haven't have the code? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:32, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I cant find any. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:40, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I asked oreo, since hes the only one that seems to have their status in. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Oreo said it doesn't matter. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

How could I possibly forget about nominating you for adminship? Oh, and, I'm creating the account now. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

 Done Take a look a NothingBot (talk · contribs). Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:51, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

And for extra proof, follow this link. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:55, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Back to bot-ness (I mean business). Umm.. okay, how about bot-coding? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 23:58, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

How did you do RyRyBot? Did you code it yourself? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

What thing did you download? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:02, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

UM IP Vandals

There's a discussion of the UM IP vandals that you have been involved with (and vandalized this page) at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#University_System_of_Maryland_IP_vandals Toddst1 (talk) 00:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you give me source code? Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Just tell me what you wrote. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:17, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Im probably gonna do this via AWB. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 00:32, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

New Design

Love it! If only I weren't so lazy I'd redesign mine! Perhaps if you have time you could make mine like yours! ♥Shapiros10WuzHere♥ 00:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Too lazy, not enough know-how.♥Shapiros10WuzHere♥ 11:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

It Was I, RyRy5

User:RyRy5 - Please forgive my childishness in vandalizing your talk page. I was the anon IP user that kept blanking your page in a "test" to see how admins would react. You can read about the full undertaking here. Again, I meant you no personal harm or displeasure. Thanks. -- VegitaU (talk) 01:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

re:Burner0718

Pretty good. He hasn't been on for a while, mainly cuz he's been busy lately. RC-0722 ^247.5/1 01:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

School. And that's OK with me. RC-0722 ^247.5/1 01:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

College. RC-0722 ^247.5/1 02:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

No, he's not worried. And yes we do. RC-0722 ^247.5/1 02:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I do. Just read this. RC-0722 ^247.5/1 02:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Which ones? RC-0722 ^247.5/1 02:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Bot

My bot is up for discussion now. See WP:BFRA. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 01:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Right now Im editing on AWB. Nothing444^{Go Irish!} 01:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Bociu, Cluj

Do you know how to fix that template so that it doesn't show population? Basketball110 _{pick away...} 02:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I knew you saw that in RC. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 02:18, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that would seem true. Thanks anyway. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 02:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm slightly loosing, seeing as I am editing this page. But I'm gaining back my cool head, and I'm no longer a total Wikipediholic (just near full). Basketball110 _{pick away...} 02:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, User:Maximillion Pegasus did. I wouldn't... I couldn't stay sane without Wikipedia. Do you know why my sig says "pick away?" Basketball110 _{pick away...} 02:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the reason for the war. [2] [3] [4] Those diffs pretty much explain it. I used "pick away" for the first time in #4. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 02:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I thought about it, but no, I am not. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Very good WikiSpeech! I liked it, if you were refering to the comment. It is true. I do, however, consider editing (sometimes) a job, or work, but it's fun work, becoming sort-of-a hobby. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

These types of minor edits are commonly overlooked, but I'd like to say that I'm glad you are doing them. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

That is why I'm in a WikiWar. ;) Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

What article? Nothing appears on my watchlist. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:20, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah... thank you. I will consult the person, and see if they want the page deleted. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm watching his talk page, and the institute page. If he blanks it again, I'll speedy it. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

It's 10:28 here, and we're under a tornado watch until 11, so I suppose I'll go to bed then. I've got a lot of things in my watchlist, mostly airports and basketball stuff. How about you? Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I would advise adding a few articles to your watchlist, pretty much just to watch over them, but it's your watchlist. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Dallas Mavericks by local choice... and it's rather strange that I'm not watching that page. I've got the teams' main stars, but not the team itself. What's your fav hockey team? Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Needless to be said, yes. Also, for some reason, the user with the OTI did not reply. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:45, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Have you seen this? Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:50, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, one of them is Kijafa, one that I'm  working on.... Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

How is that bot status going? Also, do you know about this? You can become an admin (just by creating an account, and providing a diff to your reply), and practice admin stuff! Basketball110 _{pick away...} 00:13, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Good work hobby! So, have you looked over the Test Wiki? Basketball110 _{pick away...} 00:44, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

It's the external link 2 comments above this, or just here. You can become and admin (just by proving that you are you), and practice admin stuff. I'm a bureaucrat. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 00:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Retirement

This message is just a courtesy letter to inform you of my decision to retire permanently from the Wikipedia project. The reasons for it can be found on my talk page. Just letting you know I won't be back. Sorry. ESCStudent774441 (talk) 02:41, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Design

No, not really. Your page looks good. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing, my friend and I went through hell to get the page the way it is, but he mostly did the work. ;) Um, sure I can give my "review" on you. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm a Dodgers fan and yes I do despise the Red Sox. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:50, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Observation

During the past few weeks I've been watching your talk page, comments on other editor pages, and a few discussions related to you. What is it exactly you're looking for by constantly telling people how many mainspace edits you've made? Many of your edits are minor. I've seen you add a comma when it's not needed. I've gone back and reverted some of your edits. Building up your edit count with minor edits like the one mentioned isn't going to impress people when you plan to run for admin. You are repeatedly telling people that is your plan and it makes you look overly-concerned with that position and will come back to haunt you. If your only goal on WP is to one day become an admin, I suggest you reevaluate why you're here. Being an admin isn't some kind of prize, it's more of a chore (that's my own observation). The reason we're here is to build an encyclopedia and yeah, if you make friends on the side, that's great. I've encountered alot of great people on here and I utilize talk pages. I have no plans to ever become an admin. I'm too opinionated for that and I would never get approved. But if your goal is to have the mop then I suggest you write some great articles, instead of reminding everyone of how many edits you've made, how many "adoptees" you've supposedly helped, and asking people to look at your userpage. My words may come across as semi-rude, but it's not meant that way. It's meant to be helpful advice for your time spent on WP. Cheers. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 07:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments like this and this are what I'm referring to when I mention constantly reminding others of how many edits you've made. I'm sure Philippe will check on your progress, but there's no need to constantly remind him of your edits, ok? Cheers. Also, if you feel like replying to this, please do so on this talk page. Thanks. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 05:37, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Congrats

		The Original Barnstar
		For your good work in the projectspace! Malinaccier Public (talk) 11:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Projectspace is a very good space. Nothing444^{Go Yanks!} 12:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Cool Head

		The Original Barnstar
		For keeping a cool head here, I, Nothing444, hereby award RyRy5 (talk · contribs) a barnstar.

Nothing444 12:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For taking the challenge and warning 300 vandals, I, Sharkface217, hereby award you this barnstar. Good job! --Sharkface217 19:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

2 Things

Okay, thing 1. How do you archive your talk page? 2. Did you stop your adoption program? --Writergirlrocks talk 23:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Bot.

--Writergirlrocks talk 00:13, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

WIkiProject Long Island Newsletter: A Whole New Volume!

Celebrate a whole new Volume with a whole new design! By Nothing444

WikiProject Long Island Newsletter Issue 1, Volume II April 11, 2008 In this issue News - Recent news from the Wikiproject New York Islanders News - We're all Islanders. Featured Articles - Articles of the Day To-Do - Pretty much explains itself Project News There are many unassessed articles in WikiProject Long Island, just check the assessment subpage. We are now accepting peer review here, and working on the subpage. Nobody joined, or left. Celebrate Volume II with a new newsletter! Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Long Island articles by quality statistics Featured Articles For our Featured Articles of the day, we have: Stony Brook University Hofstra University Ted Nolan To-Do List Here are some tasks awaiting attention: Other : *Clean out Category:Unknown-importance Long Island articles Clean out Category:Unassessed-Class Long Island articles Get Long Island to good article status Get Long Island to featured article status Get Stony Brook University to good article status Get Stony Brook University to featured article status Get Dowling College to good article status Get Dowling College to featured article status Get Suffolk County to good article status Get Suffolk County to featured article status Get Nassau County to good article status Get Nassau County to featured article status New York Islanders News We're all Islanders, so lets check out how they're doing. Atlantic Division GP W L OTL GF GA Pts 1 Pittsburgh Penguins 82 47 27 8 247 216 102 2 New Jersey Devils 82 46 29 7 206 197 99 3 New York Rangers 82 42 27 13 213 199 97 4 Philadelphia Flyers 82 42 29 11 248 233 95 5 New York Islanders 82 35 38 9 194 243 79 Eastern Conference R Div GP W L OTL GF GA Pts 1 z – Montreal Canadiens NE 82 47 25 10 262 222 104 2 y – Pittsburgh Penguins AT 82 47 27 8 247 216 102 3 y – Washington Capitals SE 82 43 31 8 242 231 94 4 New Jersey Devils AT 82 46 29 7 206 197 99 5 New York Rangers AT 82 42 27 13 213 199 97 6 Philadelphia Flyers AT 82 42 29 11 248 233 95 7 Ottawa Senators NE 82 43 31 8 261 247 94 8 Boston Bruins NE 82 41 29 12 212 222 94 8.5 9 Carolina Hurricanes SE 82 43 33 6 252 249 92 10 Buffalo Sabres NE 82 39 31 12 255 242 90 11 Florida Panthers SE 82 38 35 9 216 226 85 12 Toronto Maple Leafs NE 82 36 35 11 231 260 83 13 New York Islanders AT 82 35 38 9 194 243 79 14 Atlanta Thrashers SE 82 34 40 8 216 272 76 15 Tampa Bay Lightning SE 82 31 42 9 223 267 71 Divisions: AT – Atlantic, NE – Northeast, SE – Southeast bold – qualified for playoffs, y – division winner, z – placed first in conference (and division) Archives • Newsroom If you would not like to receive this newsletter, list your username here.

Delivered by Nothing444 23:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Test Wiki

I have left instructions on the page. You have completed them. I will grant you adminship in a second. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 00:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

You already have. Just go ahead and block me (you're and admin). Basketball110 _{pick away...} 00:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I have good news and bad news. The bad news is NothingBot (talk · contribs) is denied. The good news is I have filed another request with them to approve NothingBot. Nothing444 01:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

No, only people that have accounts w/ other wikis. Also, take the discussion to the test wiki, seeing as it is about the wiki. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 00:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter

Can you write for the newsletter? You don't need to know about Long island, you need to know abouot the project. You cover project news, and i'll cover the rest. You can also pick featured articles of the day in the newsletter. So what do you say? Oh, and I'd like your opinion of its new look. Nothing444 01:54, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

No, the next edition is in five days. You can help me working on that by building upon Wikipedia:WikiProject Long Island/newsletter/04-11-08. Nothing444 01:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Adoption

Many thanks for the kind offer. I would really like to get better at this, but let me think about it as I am not sure how much time I will have to devote to this. Don't have too many article ideas yet. Thanks again. Trafficdesign (talk) 02:14, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Not an admin

Yeah, I know. For all the good I do here, I still manage to screw up a lot, and I'm horrible at dispute resolution. I tend to rush into things too. (Blame it on my otters.) Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

• Someday... Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:15, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Ring Announcer J.D. Lyons

Please help me!

I simply tried to write a short Bio of who I am, and what I have done as a Ring Announcer, did I do something wrong? If so what was it and how do I fix the problem, as everything is factual in nature and not self promoting in any way. As far as verifying "who" I am please check here, the pictures will say it all. http://www.myspace.com/jdlyonsvocalthunder

Please email me directly at jd.lyons@gmail.com with any questions

Thanks, J.D. Lyons —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soundtraveler (talk • contribs) 04:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

J.D. Lyons

So the list is for "notable ring announcers" in boxing, and after 15 years in the biz, and dozens upon dozens of televised shows world wide - do I not qualify?

It is more of an explanation of who I am than a bio.

What do you suggest?

JD —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soundtraveler (talk • contribs) 04:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

JD Lyons - the idiot is seems lol

Thanks, I think I did contest it correctly but I am not sure... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soundtraveler (talk • contribs) 04:27, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Adopt an idiot named JD?!

O.K. - I have no idea how to correctly do what I was trying to do, and that is simply state who I am as a ring announcer so what can we do here? lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soundtraveler (talk • contribs) 04:39, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

AIV

No prob. Yeah, I am positive it was a hoax, I sometimes wonder if people see stuff like that and accept it as fact. THE KC (talk) 12:11, 11 April 2008 (UTC).

IRC

Do you know about IRC? It's a chat program, and there are channels specifically for Wikipedia. It's a good way to get quick help or advice. See Wikipedia:IRC. Friday (talk) 16:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

ANI

Hi RyRy, There's an ANI discussion concerning you here. - Philippe 16:53, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Invite

Please accept this invite to join the Red Sox WikiProject, a WikiProject dedicated to improving all articles associated with the Boston Red Sox. Simply click here to accept!

I noticed you like baseball.--RyRy5 ^{Talk to RyRy} 00:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

While I do enjoy playing baseball, I don't know any significant information about the Red Sox. Also, I see you "stole" my old signature. ;) -[[Ryan]] ^{(me) (talk)} 20:42, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		For making an amazing 2000 edits in the month of April, I award thee with an original barnstar that is precisely overlapping another original barnstar, for a grand total of 2 original barnstars! Luksuh 21:08, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Quick visit

Dear RyRy, this is just a quick stop in to give you this personal thought. If I missed anyone on here, it'd be you. I would love to be able to learn more, but I guess being retired, the opportunity is foreclosed. If I could come back, it'd be if you wish it. ESCStudent774441 (talk) 22:34, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

AFD

		The AFD Barnstar
		For taking the challenge once again and making over 50 contributions to AFD, I - Milk's favorite Cookie hereby award you this Barnstar. Congrats! - Milk's favorite Cookie 23:49, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I just wanted a redesign, and I fixed the members thing. - Milk's favorite Cookie 00:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

 Done - Milk's favorite Cookie 00:38, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:LINY

Look what I did over at WP:LINY! Nothing444 00:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Yea. I tweak WP:CELTICS and made it my own. P.S. I don't know if you like hockey but please join WP:NHL if you do. Nothing444 01:05, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you work on Wikipedia:WikiProject Long Island/leftpanel? The navigation is terrible. I need one for Collaboration of the week, and peer review, and possibly more. You maintained WP:BOSOX, you think you can help me with this? Nothing444 01:11, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Deletionist Challenge

Hey there RyRy5 - It appears as though you signed up for the challenge just today, but, I cannot find any evidence in your contributions that you've made 50 SD nominations afterwards. Am I missing something, or perhaps you thought that it acted retroactively? If the latter is the case, you are more than welcome to participate, but to be fair it must be done after you sign up. Cheers! Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 01:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Not quite there yet, keep going though - However, per the notifications from users below, please be careful when placing speedy tags on articles. They have to be appropriate. Bear in mind that this challenge is supposed to be beneficial to Wikipedia and help the project. I would suggest slowing down a bit and reading up on WP:CSD criteria. Don't fret though, you're doing well. Good luck. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 16:11, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

AFDs

When commenting at AFDs, try to add sonething more than "per nominator" or "non notable". AFDs are discussions, not just pure votes. Metros (talk) 01:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

quick question

I was going through your contribs again, and I couldn't find all 300 of your warns for which I gave you those barnstars. In fact, I found about a third of that. Can you provide contribs for the ones I missed? --Sharkface217 01:35, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Your contribs. I did not find 300. --Sharkface217 01:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 01:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Done. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:59, 12 April 2008 (UT

I don't hate YOU, I hate the TEAM. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

You live in Vegas? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Thoughts

You know, what you say makes a sort of sense. I might trade retired for semi-retired. I'd eventually return to active status. Let me know what you think. ESCStudent774441 (talk) 02:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

How to trade templates

How do I indicate a return, if only in a partial sense? What template might allow me some active editing without being fully active? Can you place those for me on my page? ESCStudent774441 (talk) 02:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

User Page

Sure, I could use all the help I can get. I'd like to get to administrator level soon if I can prove worthy. My user page, sure I can use instruction. And are you saying I cannot edit at all even from semi retired status? ESCStudent774441 (talk) 02:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

So Semi-Retired allows editing while as long as I am labeled Retired I cannot edit at all. I guess that's the meaning?ESCStudent774441 (talk) 02:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Retired seems to imply a total disinterest in editing I was led to assume. I'd love to create a new template, one called Resigned where the user wants out but not to imply a possible return. If a user uses the Resigned template, they should not be able to edit from that account ever again. ESCStudent774441 (talk) 02:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I think I will trade full retirement for a semi retired status so I can get back. I'd like to drop that eventually too if I was offered adminship. ESCStudent774441 (talk) 02:35, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Alright, I'll try it. ESCStudent774441 (talk) 02:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Your signature

Did you change your sig? Basketball110 _{pick away...} 02:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Indeed. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:04, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Indigo is a nice color. I'm thinking of changing my sig soon. Any suggestions? Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:47, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I suppose I am. Any suggestions on font? Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Go ahead. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 03:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

The sig doesn't fit at the box in "my preferences." But, I'll see what I can do to reduce the number of characters. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 04:07, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

No I'm not. I was de-ill-itized quite a while ago. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 04:10, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm doubtful if this is going to work, but I put the code for the sig here, and plan to use a template in the box at My Preferneces. Basketball110 _{pick away...} 04:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

It seemed to have worked. Basketball110^Talk 04:13, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, and when I clicked save, it added "SUBST:" to the beginning. Basketball110^Talk 04:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

The "Got something to say" bit could be a different color, I think. Basketball110^Talk 04:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I should be offline soon... maybe 15, 20 minutes. I probably won't be on tommorrow until 2 (I've got a cello competition, a plant sale, and a surprise birthday party for my mom). How about you? Basketball110^Talk 04:40, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't update my status because of the WikiWar, even though I'm in sometimes. Basketball110^Talk 20:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Userpage

Hey...just wondering how I would go about pimping out my userpage like you have yours? Is there a collection of templates or something hiding somewhere? Mr. P. S. Phillips (talk) 03:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I ended up borrowing yours. Thanks! Mr. P. S. Phillips (talk) 04:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

An Answer to Your Question

Hi RyRy5, I noticed you asked what canvassing is on the MFD for the WP:BOSOX Scouting Office. Well the relevant policy page to look at is WP:CANVASS. Its when you spam other users to vote at deletion/policy debates. You haven't done a severe form of it to be honest so its a bit much to call it canvassing. Canvassing is considered a concern when the user has left such notices on loads of user talk pages (you seemed to have left it on one). However, you did commence in one canvass-ish act, you encouraged Nothing444 to vote support rather than leaving a neutral message (this is referred to as campaigning). Please try to remain neutral if you wanted to leave a friendly notice of such debates and not campaign for users to vote a certain way. Comments left by canvassed users may not be looked at as credibly since they were encouraged to vote that way.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 05:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

That would probably be discouraged. However, a good threshold to follow would probably be what this section says here.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 05:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

RE

(copied and pasted from my talk page)

(User:Philippe has asked me to always keep him updated. I guess I should slow down on that. Comments? Also, please start a new section. I didn't know that you sent a message towards the middle of my talk until I looked at the page's history.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 05:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC))

Philippe might have asked you to keep him updated, but every 50 mainspace edits? Do you think that's necessary? It seems that you're wanting constant praise for your contributions on this site. People will notice your work without reminding them, ok?

P.S. I asked you to reply on this page, not mine. I like to keep conversations together instead of going back and forth between talk pages, hence the banner on the top of my talk page. Thanks. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 06:03, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I have been trying to change my editing by not editing like by adding commas, or any other not needed edits. If you look at my contribs, I have been editing in a better way.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 06:05, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

There's no need to apologize and I'm sure you're making valuable edits. Right now, I'm referring to updating users on your edit count. The editcounter userbox you have on your userpage will let others know. In fact, if you want to let others know of how many mainspace edits you've made, a good way to do that is by adding the userbox stating how many mainspace edits you've made. I can't located it at the moment, but I've seen it on several userpages. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 06:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I have seen some around too. I would appreciate it if you can find the template.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 06:19, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

850+This user has made over 850 contributions to Wikipedia

Here you go. There's another one that actually says "mainspace edits", but I don't know where it is at the moment. This one implies the same thing. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 08:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll ask you another time if I have any questions. Cheers.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 13:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

RyRy5 on Full Throttle

Hiya you are very famous this week Ry. Not sure how you manage it but you are. I bet if you ask any Wikitype they will know who you are.

I am universally hated for getting in peoples faces and after months of being good nobody believes me ;-) Please Ry - slow down - read every page you edit - don't do page moves on newly created articles and for all of our sake no more Full Throttle :-) -- BpEps - t@lk 06:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: User:LightollersShips

Hello.

Thanks for your message regarding User:LightollersShips. Yes I do know this user, he is a relation of mine.

Thanks again for the concern.

Lightoller (talk) 11:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion and AFD

Please could you read WP:SPEEDY before nominating any more articles for speedy deletion. How did you imagine this was suitable for deletion under A3? And this, while perhaps suitable under something, is not A7. There could even be an argument that all places are inherently notable by definition.

As for AFDs, User:Metros asked you above to expand your reasons for deletion, yet you have just added Merge per nom for an AFD.

Please, stop charging around the encyclopedia as unless you start doing things properly, you are in danger of preventing yourself ever standing a chance at RFA. Making 1,000,000 mainspace edits would not make up for it.

Perhaps you should ask for an adopter? It would help you learn the fundamental basics of Wiki, an area you appear to be lacking in.

Please leave any replies here so others who are monitoring your behavior, etc, can respond. George The Dragon (talk) 14:34, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I understand. I will look at those carefully. And yes, I will start adding reasons for tagging articles and finding the right templates.

One question? I have seen many article that do not have/cite references. In that case, should I add a template to the artcle? But I don't know what the template code is. Can you help me with this?--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 14:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I noticed tagging two articles for deletion created by User talk:Dylanlyness. Please check if I tagged it right or if it needs tagging at all. The articls are listed on his/her talk page. --RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 14:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

You have listed those as for speedy deletion under A3, but they do have content . Notice under A3 "However, a very short article may be a valid stub if it has context, in which case it is not eligible for deletion under this criterion" as appears to be the case here.

For reference tags, see WP:CTT George The Dragon (talk) 14:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Should I remove the tags. Also, do articles like the ones User talk:Dylanlyness created need tags like the following:{{Unreferenced|date=April 2008}}. If they do, I will add those in. And if those articles don't need to be deleted, I will remove them.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 14:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

In all cases, if an article has a chance of being referenced, it should be given that chance, so yes. George The Dragon (talk) 15:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

n your message above. Were you refering to the db tags or the unreferenced templates?--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 15:05, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

db tags should only be used if the article is clearly suitable for speedy deletion. If it is not, then go to AFD. But in a number of cases, even articles that are riddled with grammar and spelling errors can be notable. Even better than adding ref-tags is to add the references yourself. A quick check of Google can normally find references, just make sure they meet WP:RS George The Dragon (talk) 15:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

revisions to DAW

Obviously I'm new to wiki.... I'm not fimilar with the editing protocols.

In relation to the DAW article under heading "Commerical"

To list a few select/popular software titles with less than complete descriptions seems to contribute to the bias and unprofessional nature of this section. My edits attempt to provide a collection of Wiki links to more complete resources of each software platform. To describe these softwares is not the intention of this article. It should be to provide unbiased information regarding DAW.

Sometimes less is more..... please consider my purpose and edits. http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Digital_audio_workstation&diff=205137950&oldid=205137756

Typos

Please note, I have reverted you here. "Highly publicised" was exactly what was meant, not "highly published". The -ised spelling does not need changing to the -ized spelling, either, as Coldplay are a British band. See WP:ENGVAR. George The Dragon (talk) 16:10, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I understand that. I appreciate you watching my edits and making sure their correct.--RyRy5 ^{Got something to say?} 16:11, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Coldplay, hmm... I would say meets between A-status and GA-status. Oh, and I can get you my new cool status thing if you want. I borrowed it from Oreo and he borrowed from Chetblong. Nothing444 16:13, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I do need more subpages made. You know, the ones WP:BOSOX and WP:CELTICS have that WP:LINY doesn't have. Nothing444 16:18, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Next edition of the newsletter will come out tommorow (wikitime). I would like you to nominate an article for The Collaboration of the Week. Nothing444 16:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

its okay. brooklyn is part of long island. Nothing444 16:40, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

i think you already nominated it. Nothing444 16:43, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Suprise!

Hello, RyanCross. You have new messages at Nothing444's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Because I gave you and oreo a talkback, because you both deserved it. Nothing444 18:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

New Article

Its good, but it needed reference cleanup. So, I took the liberty to do proper reference tags. If you don't know how to use them, might as well teach you. do <ref>[http://example.com]</ref> Then, at the bottom where it says references, just put {{reflist}}. Nothing444 18:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of 5Boro

A tag has been placed on 5Boro requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. // Chris ^{(complaints)•(contribs)} 19:43, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Adminship Questions

Your answer was excellent and thorough, and I think we should keep all admin coaching material on one page. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 20:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

He didn't post them on the admin coaching page, and that's what counts. Also, he didn't write them; those are common questions dating from quite a while ago. I don't really care about the design of the page, frankly. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 23:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Reply once more

I got a 1 (that's very good). I saw 2 of the articles (5Boro, and Steve Rodriguez), which were bot marked for speedy. What is the third? Basketball110^Talk 21:03, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Brooklyn is not GA. I'm not sure if it's ready for a nom, but I'm sure that it could use some work. Basketball110^Talk 21:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

It could use more refs and getting rid of red links by creating the article, or linking it to something relevant could probably get it GA. Basketball110^Talk 21:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I reviewed Yao Ming, and passed it. I was wondering if you thought I'd made the right decision. I also see that you are working on Brookyln. Basketball110^Talk 23:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure you understand... I reviewed the article (Yao Ming), and classified it as GA, and promoted it. I'm not really the person who got down to the wire and edited it. Basketball110^Talk 00:09, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedway National League

Kindly refrain from writing speedy deletion all over my work. If you had taken some time to look more carefully, you'd notice it's an article that's part of a whole category of work with carefully placed links to the rest of the series. What is it with people on here that love trying to disrupt other people's work? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rml123 (talk • contribs) 21:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Admin coaching

I answered your question and left you one. And no, I think the single page you have for admin coaching is fine (questions are one of the main parts).   jj137 (talk) 21:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Again regarding that vandal fighting

I noticed your comment here. It's a completely understandable mistake. I suggest you get on those warns right away, as I wouldn't want to have to officially revoke that barnstar. It's not that hard to do (on days when vandalism is high, 100 warns can be made an hour), and it will be highly beneficial to Wikipedia. --Sharkface217 23:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the directions explicitly stated that work was to be done before the awarding of the barnstar. --Sharkface217 01:11, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Userpage design

Hey, RyRy. Do you like the new userpage design (p.S. im editing the mainspace more). Wow. I had to get an edit conflict just to post this message. Nothing444 23:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Editing

Um, excuse me? Before I edited the clique page where it talked about Massie, it said some very untrue things. I had to edit it to meet wikipedia standards. If you would like to know more please message me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.47.200.180 (talk) 23:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Brooklyn GAN

I replied on my talk page. Keep working on it, and the article will be a GA in the future. :) Best wishes, dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 01:10, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and please archive this talk page soon :) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 01:12, 13 April 2008 (UTC)