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Please stop removing captions

I am rolling back your edits. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

OK - I meant well, to only remove captions which did not contribute anything not already contained in Infobox titles, as MOS:CAPLENGTH recommends. This is supposed to leave more space for infobox images and other details. If this violates some other policy, please let me know. RudolfSchreier (talk) 18:57, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

It is unhelpful to the reader, whom we serve. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:59, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Quoting the MOS: "Infoboxes normally display the page name as the title of the infobox. If nothing more than the page name needs to be said about the image, then the caption should be omitted as being redundant with the title of the infobox."

Please explain your rollbacks, referring back to this MOS guideline.

I'm also adding @LilianaUwU since she made similar rollbacks. RudolfSchreier (talk) 19:07, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm gonna echo Beyond my Ken right below: they were mass changes against consensus. I wouldn't've minded if it was one page or two as a trial, but simply changing everything with no consensus isn't how you do it. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 19:10, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I was genuinely trying to do the right thing and follow the MOS to improve article quality. I am unaware what other steps I could have taken.

Where the MOS says "enforcing optional style in a bot-like fashion without prior consensus, is never acceptable.", I was taking the statement quoted above, "...the caption should be omitted as being redundant with the title of the infobox" to mean "editors should make that change".

I am genuinely baffled what was expected of me as an editor. Read the MOS and not enforce it? Make the same edits, but more slowly (less efficiently)? RudolfSchreier (talk) 19:18, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Do not make mass changes to articles without first getting a mandate to do so after a consensus discussion. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:06, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

I echo Beyond My Ken's comments. The captions are there to help the reader. MOS:CAPLENGTH does not call for the removal of, e.g. captions such as "Quiche Lorraine served in Paris", in an article in which regional variations are discussed. Tim riley talk 20:04, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for at least being specific. Looking back, this is a change I also disagree with.

After this honestly (to me) incredibly crushing conflict, I'll happily end the discussion here and choose to disengage from Wikimedia. RudolfSchreier (talk) 06:59, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

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