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Patiwat (talk) 01:49, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Something I want you to check out

Hi, seeing your recent edits, I just want you ,with all respect, to check out just one thing.

1.) Hear the much controvertial 'Da Torpedo Speech' (search by that). I just hear it a few days ago too. Before, I just thought it was an exploit of the lese majest law used on someone attacking Prem.

2.) Go see what's going on in the 'Fah Dieaw Gun' (same sky) webboard. (search using Thai name). It's equally shocking.

I can't say more. Foriegners would look and see nothing wrong in them, but for Thais like you, it's another story. --Donny TH (talk) 08:15, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

• What does this have to do with Wikipedia? Patiwat (talk) 15:35, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Well... nothing. (nothing that can be written anyway.) It's just that I know we've had many disagreements, but since I assumed from your name that you're a Thai, so I want to see if we, atleast, think something in common. (I didn't ask did because of the reversed Finland plot edit. Really.) Speaking of common, come'on please. If you haven't seen it, I'm sure it will be of some interest to you. If you don't have much time, for the clip, (if you go to the website with 4 parts) the hilights is in the beginning of the first clip, beginning of the 3rd clip, beginning of the 4th clip, and near the end of the 4th clip. --Donny TH (talk) 04:09, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

• At this point in Thai history, when otherwise rationale people are calling for "reconciliation" in one sentence while also calling for "assassination" in the next, do you think that anything - other than that thing that we ALL dread but don't want to think about - can change anybody's mind? Unfortunately, it has gotten to the point where whoever wins, "he" loses. What must happen will happen. I'm just using Wikipedia to record all the significant facts. Let history make the judgments. Patiwat (talk) 06:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Pawyilee (talk) 08:00, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

So.. you've view the video speech, and read some (non-red-shirt-related) posts from the webboard? (Actually I think the webboard one is more significant and serious than the speech) The interesting ones I'm talking about can be easier found by searching the term "ระบอบกษัตริย์" and ,to a lesser amount, "ศักดินา". Also, it's notable to look at many member's signature. I don't know if it will surpise you, but it certainly surprised me. PS: Lee, shouldn't 'yi' be spelled 'Yai' and 'Paw' be 'Por' ? Just random thoughts. :) --Donny TH (talk) 02:42, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

• I'm sorry, but I still don't get your point. What are you trying to tell me or persuade me to think? Patiwat (talk) 03:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Siamese Revolution of 1932

Hello Khun Patiwat,

I am asking for your help with regards to the Siamese Revolution of 1932 article, right now it is basically a one contributer article. I would really like to turn it into a feature article for the anniversary next month. Any chances? too ambitious maybe? Please help- I know you have done it before. Best regards Sodacan (talk) 22:41, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

• Ambitious? Yes! Worth it? Hell yeah! Unfortunately, I don't have convenient access to that many good sources. But I'll take a stab at it. Note that you can make some good improvements on it by just looking through the style guide and such, e.g., the style guide recommends not using "the" in section titles. Patiwat (talk) 04:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah! Good! I'll look through the style guide to see what I can do, the most urgent change right now is the introduction it needs to be expanded as stipulated by the FA guide. And when should we nominate this? Sodacan (talk) 09:01, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry, I've been taking care of some personal issues and haven't had much time for this. Will get to it when I can! Patiwat (talk) 15:27, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Please don't forget! just copyediting would be really great Sodacan (talk) 12:30, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments and concerns!, please help me implement them. Right now the article is a one editor article, if there is any hope of it becoming more there needs to be more work. All your points are good, and valid the only issue I have is the last one concerning Rama VII, from many sources it seemed that he did wanted at first, to implement some kind of constitutional reforms even if they were limited. However his foreign advisors and his brothers were opposed to this, and this did not happen. Whether this was because he was persuaded over against his earlier attempts or had no choice is not known. This is the narrative I have found in almost all the sources I have cited. The alternative that he was against reform is very interesting, and could turn everything over on its head. Anyway please if you have time do take a serious look at it, it is a worthy subject and deserves a good and informative article. I have tried and the result is a mess, it needs a trained eye, reading it over now the last section needs to be entirely rewritten, if not entirely deleted. Thank you for having looked over it anyway. Sodacan (talk) 22:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Malvern Water

This has nothing to do with Thailand, but I was interested in your POV rationale over one contributor's mention of home-brew sato kits. There is a controversy on the Malvern Water page about the mention in which Schweppes is the only firm to commercialise this famous mineral water. I recently split the article from another page and expanded it. There is definitely no advertising intended - indeed Schweppes has a dedicated Wiki article. If you have time to review this Malvern Water article and perhaps make some comment, it would be very much appreciated. Thanks. --Kudpung (talk) 10:12, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

You don't need to look at the article anymore. The matter has been successfully concluded. --Kudpung (talk) 10:40, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Sato

Hey Khun Patiwat, why the sudden dislike of that segment. I recall some earlier articles we both edited (I recall your name from the watchlist entries) and recalled the Sato article as one of them. I noted in the history for the Sato article that you'd edited this article two or three times previously, couple of years ago; the brewing steps were in there at that time, too. Just curious what inspired your thoughts on removing it now. Having asked that, I've also got an observation that I'll put on the Sato talk page. - Thaimoss (talk) 00:54, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

• Wikipedia is NOT a recipe book (see http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not). Besides, the recipe is crap. Literally. The jar should be sterilized before the rice/yeast mixture is put in. And the output should be pasteurized. Besides, the "traditional" recipe is unreferenced. On a separate point, the "Brewing" section is inconsistent: ลูกแป้ง is defined in one part as being mostly sugar, and in another part as being starch, yeast, and mold. Patiwat (talk) 06:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Right, I understand and agree with your point on the recipe book. Addition of an entry about the sterilization and pasteurization would be good. I'm sure we can find a reference for the process. I'll straighten up the ลูกแป้ง inconsistency. - Thaimoss (talk) 22:18, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Kathina, and Kathin festivals

Kathin Festival needs a lotta help! Pawyilee (talk) 14:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ayutthaya Kingdom

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• Am having at it.Patiwat (talk) 05:50, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

S.P. Somtow

Hi. Do you have a source for the information on Somtow's lineage? I actually know Somtow and some of his family fairly well and while I know he has some royal ancestors, I have never heard that his great uncle is King Chulalongkorn. I'm going to avoid editing the article as I have a COI, I just watch it for vandalism, but I think a source would be appropriate to make such a claim. DegenFarang (talk) 01:40, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

• It's on his website. Indrasakdisaji was his grandfather's sister. I've added a reference. Patiwat (talk) 05:39, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
• Actually, I misread. Should have typed Vajiravudh, not Chulalongkorn. Change made. Patiwat (talk) 05:43, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
  • "his grandfather's sister was a cousin and consort of King Vajiravudh" - yes, that sounds much more like what I have been told. I didn't think it was as direct as 'great uncle'. Nice work on the article. I'm sure Somtow appreciates it. DegenFarang (talk) 12:37, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

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I am writing and editing articles with regard to Thai Buddhism, so usually this is not an issue, but it does become an issue as soon as I cover something that has to do with politics. I find that Thai media are so strongly divided about political issues, Red Shirts and Yellow Shirt issues, and other political pressure groups, that I find it difficult to gather neutral, reliable information. I understand you would just have to try to show a balanced perspective showing opinions of two sides of the spectrum, but this isn't easy, especially since many Red Shirt-oriented media outlets in Thailand have gone underground or abroad since the last coup d'etat and under the current regime, there is a lot of censorship going on. How do you deal with this, when you write articles that rely on Thai sources? S Khemadhammo (talk) 19:46, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Asian 10,000 Challenge invite

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Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome

Ten years!

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