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British Throne
@Nford24 The British Throne's heir apparent is also the heir apparent to the throne of 14 other Commonwealth realms. See the page British Throne for further clarification. Regards MSincccc (talk) 08:10, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- You do realise they’re seperate thrones legally right? Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 08:12, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I know the difference. But the mentioning of "14 other Commonwealth realms" will be more relevant only once William actually ascends. So it was for Charles III. Are you cleared? Regards MSincccc (talk) 08:15, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Am I cleared? Mentioning only 1 of the 15 thrones he’s heir apparent too is ludicrous, it should be all or none. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 08:17, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Nford24 It has been so since September 2022. Also the British Throne page's lead states "The monarchy of the United Kingdom, commonly referred to as the British monarchy, is the constitutional form of government by which a hereditary sovereign reigns as the head of state of the United Kingdom, the Crown Dependencies and the British Overseas Territories." That includes the 14 other realms also. Once he ascends to the throne, we will mention "and 14 other Commonwealth realms" like on Charles III's page. Regards MSincccc (talk) 08:20, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Crown dependencies and overseas territories does not included realms, those are different things.
- The Crown Dependencies are the Bailiwick of Jersey, the Bailiwick of Guernseyand the Isle of Man.
- The British Overseas Territory's are Anguilla; Bermuda; British Antarctic Territory (BAT); British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT); British Virgin Islands; Cayman Islands; Falkland Islands; Gibraltar; Montserrat; Pitcairn, Henderson, Ducie and Oeno Islands; Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha; South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands; Turks and Caicos Islands.
- what you’re saying is, Williams article has been misleading since September 2022. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 08:27, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- No I am not. Its not misleading but probably you are mistaken. Regards MSincccc (talk) 08:29, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- See the revisions before September 2022 when Charles was Prince of Wales-it was only heir apparent to the British throne in lead unlike now when he's King. Regards MSincccc (talk) 08:28, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging @Keivan.f: and @Tim O'Doherty: . They might clarify the matter to you for confirmation. Regards MSincccc (talk) 08:30, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- I’m not mistaken, a realm is neither a crown dependency or an overseas territory. It really doesn’t matter what Charles’ article stated prior to 2022, it was also wrong. Science also once said the earth is flat, and that was also proven to be wrong. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 08:35, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Nford24 We will find out soon. By the way, let’s wait for the other two, whom I have pinged, before making any further revisions to the concerned article. See you later then. Regards and take care, MSincccc (talk) 08:56, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- What about: "
William, Prince of Wales, KG, KT, PC, ADC (William Arthur Philip Louis; born 21 June 1982) is the heir apparent to the British throne as well as the thrones of the 14 other Commonwealth realms
" with the first note from Charles's article? Tim O'Doherty (talk) 17:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- What about: "
- @Nford24 We will find out soon. By the way, let’s wait for the other two, whom I have pinged, before making any further revisions to the concerned article. See you later then. Regards and take care, MSincccc (talk) 08:56, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Nford24 It has been so since September 2022. Also the British Throne page's lead states "The monarchy of the United Kingdom, commonly referred to as the British monarchy, is the constitutional form of government by which a hereditary sovereign reigns as the head of state of the United Kingdom, the Crown Dependencies and the British Overseas Territories." That includes the 14 other realms also. Once he ascends to the throne, we will mention "and 14 other Commonwealth realms" like on Charles III's page. Regards MSincccc (talk) 08:20, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Am I cleared? Mentioning only 1 of the 15 thrones he’s heir apparent too is ludicrous, it should be all or none. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 08:17, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I know the difference. But the mentioning of "14 other Commonwealth realms" will be more relevant only once William actually ascends. So it was for Charles III. Are you cleared? Regards MSincccc (talk) 08:15, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't be necessarily opposed to Nford24's edits. Technically speaking, he is right. Crown dependencies and overseas territories are not the same thing as realms, which are independent sovereign entities. William is in line to become king of the United Kingdom, as well as king of Canada, Australia, etc. I see no harm in clarifying this. As a suggestion though, I would say that you should probably raise the issue on the article's talk page to make sure that no one will oppose the changes again. Keivan.fTalk 15:48, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- You've all likely realised, but I've replied on the other talk page. It probably wont change, but someone has to replied the British that the colonials still exist haha. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 21:29, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Whether it changes or does not change, I am in support of what's best and that will be decided once the others have put forth their views. Let's close this discussion here and get all future comments on the actual talk page. Hoping for the best and like always, accuracy and relevancy. Looking forward to knowing from you Nford24,
- Regards and yours faithfully, MSincccc (talk) 09:03, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- You've all likely realised, but I've replied on the other talk page. It probably wont change, but someone has to replied the British that the colonials still exist haha. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 21:29, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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Maybe there could be a compromise for people. Instead of in the typical prefix slot, put it in front of the name, so that it's the same font size/bold, but then <line break> it, so it still sits atop the name. Perhaps that'll aid the visceral transition? Just a spontaneous thought, ha. --Cinemaniac86TalkStalk 08:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, reverting you once and you reverting twice doesn’t make me the person guilty of edit warring, but hey, you’re telling the story. You may need to read up on WP:BRD before continuing to edit Willy-nilly. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 10:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- You reverted prior to me, <--as seen there, to an IP user—who themself had reverted Atchom, who themself had amended the prefix without consensus discussion about this issue unbeknownst to many. Thus, you had reverted twice before I did. I believe it's applicable to the # of reverts of the same edit, regardless of the user.
- And from a previous issue I had, in which it had gotten......Just insane, including stalking to every single article I had edited on within the past couple of days....I had reported for the first time ever for both 3RR and harassment. And w/ 3RR and showing the diffs, I believe part of the instructions were to ensure I had opened up the lines of communications on both the user talk page between the person with whom I engaged in an edit war before it escalated further, to see if I can prevent having to summon a conflict resolution moderator; and the article talk page, to open the forum for others to weigh in on the topic at hand.
- Without canvassing of course, unless (apparently in a previous instance) summoning previously involved people in the same dispute? Perhaps that instance was desperation for the deadlocked. I dunno. But that's to answer your talk page question. Just following the protocol, and making an effort. --Cinemaniac86TalkStalk 00:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Atchom is acting with plenty of consensus from experienced editors, though most disagree (and I acknowledge that is an oxymoron). The most recent discussion can be found here Template talk:Infobox person. Most of the editors simply don't understand the complexities around titles in general, and the rest are against having 'Sir' on the name line, generally fail (or in some cases specially refuse) to take into account documented references calling knighthoods "name-changing titles", which only occurs in commonwealth countries (UK, AUS, NZ, etc). [1] The ain issue can be shown here Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2008 archive: Honorific prefixes, where the quiet statement was actually mentioned "The U.S. doesn't recognize titles of nobility, so there is no such thing as a Sir Charles Darwin here." by User Ripe, which demonstrates clear US thought bias on WP.
- Take the whole thing as you see fit, but the existing wording largely stems from a 'consensus' that no one can find in any records publicly available on WP and editors don't want to change because its WP:FAITACCOMPLI.
- On a side note, I suggest you read WP:DTTR and WP:DTA, both will likely help you deal with some editors in future, templates are not a civil form of conversing. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 06:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, Nford24. Do you have a ref for the change of badge and an image for the new badge? Errantios (talk) 22:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hey Errantios, the change be seen here [1] and the image here File:Badge of the Governor-General of Australia (Tudor Crown).svg. All of the state governors & administrator's badges changed late last year/early this year.
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