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Hello Mjahangir777,
It seems to me that an article you worked on, Babak Radmanesh, may be copied from http://www.babakradmanesh.com/english/bio.php. It's entirely possible that I made a mistake, but I wanted to let you know because Wikipedia is strict about copying from other sites.
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Thank you for helping build a free encyclopedia! MadmanBot (talk) 01:30, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Babak Radmanesh
editHello Mjahangir777,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Babak Radmanesh for deletion, because it seems to be copied from another source.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to rewrite it in your own words, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. MrScorch6200 (talk) 01:31, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
September 2013
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Please stop removing speedy deletion notices from pages that you have created yourself, as you did with Babak Radmanesh. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. MrScorch6200 (talk) 01:49, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
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October 2014
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You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you use Wikipedia for promotion of an album. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:19, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Without You (Sami Yusuf album). Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Administrators have the ability to block users from editing if they repeatedly engage in vandalism. Thank you. Aspects (talk) 03:22, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Advertising
editHi, thanks for message. You can sign your comments automatically using four tildes ~~~~. I deleted your article because
- it did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Your "references" were closely associated with the artist or could be self-edited. They are not acceptable as independent sources.
- The text beginning On 'The Centre', Sami Yusuf presents an album of deeply touching, devotional music... is not taken from the source you claim. It is in fact copied from Amazon
- The article was a copyright violation. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. In this case, the site says © 1996-2014, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient. But in any case the copyrighted text is far too promotional to be useful for Wikipedia's purposes, so there would not be any point in your jumping through all the hoops that are required.
- it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of unsourced claims or claims sourced only to affiliated or sales pages, but presented as fact, include: deeply touching... impressively combines... state-of-the-art... His songs are rousing, the melodies catchy and deeply moving and all of them captivate with the inherent power of spirituality... journey of spiritual discovery... rich in their multicultural influences... message of the album is perennial... bound to capture the hearts of those seeking the timeless truths and values of unity, compassion, and faithfulness in a more beautiful language—pure spam
The text infringes Amazon's copyright and cannot be legally used It is highly spammy, and there are no independent references. You have so far posted blatant advertising three times, just putting it back up again each time it is deleted. We only accept properly referenced articles with a neutral tone, and original text. Please take note of the warning above. Continued spamming will lead to a block (which cannot be avoided by changing your user name Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:48, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Dear Jimi, \
thank you for explanation. I will do another edit without any mention to any source. please have it look.
Mjahangir777 (talk) 12:59, 4 October 2014 (UTC) Jimmy can I use this part of my article only?
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| The Centre | ||||
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| Studio album by | ||||
| Released | September 12, 2014 | |||
| Recorded | Andante Records | |||
| Genre | Spiritique | |||
| Length | 48:00 | |||
| Label | Andante Records | |||
| Producer | Sami Yusuf | |||
| Sami Yusuf chronology | ||||
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Sami Yusuf - The Centre Album (October 26)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Sami Yusuf The Centre (December 29)
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Deletion
editHi, thanks for message. Please stop creating multiple versions of the article under different names; unless the issues are addressed they will all be deleted. I deleted your article because
- it did not provide adequate independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. I see no claim as to how he meets the notability criteria, but in any case the references were mainly unacceptable, using his sites, YouTube, interviews with him and similar non-independent sources instead of reputable third-party sources.
- it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of unsourced claims presented as fact or sourced to his own pages include: ... deeply touching, devotional music... impressively... state-of-the-art... rousing... catchy and deeply moving... — and so on in the same spammy tone
- The article was a copyright violation of this page. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient. But in any case the copyrighted text is far too promotional to be useful for Wikipedia's purposes, so there would not be any point in your jumping through all the hoops that are required.
- You appear to have an obvious conflict of interest when it comes to editing articles about this subject. If, after reading the information about notability linked above, you still believe that your organisation is notable enough for a Wikipedia article (and that there is significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources), you could, if you wish, post a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles for the article to be created. See also Wikipedia:Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest.
Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:41, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Dea Jimmy, it's several times you removed my pages from wikipedia I don't know why and I never use it for personal use or advertising!
http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/The_Centre_(sami_yusuf_album) I requested a lot just added some information about tracks and album, why you think this is something for advertise?
File permission problem with File:Samiyusuf-songsoftheway.jpg
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Conflict of interest
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Nomination of Songs of the Way (Sami Yusuf album) for deletion
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Proposed deletion of Hesham Abdul Wahab
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File permission problem with File:Sami Yusuf 2018.jpg
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Dear Diannaa talk an email sent to permissions-en@wikimedia.org with template mentioned above. Thanks.
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February 2018
edit You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Sami Yusuf. GiantSnowman 18:56, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
April 2019
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:20, 11 April 2019 (UTC)Block evasion
editIt's patently obvious that you have tried to evade your block using the account Hesamhatami2. If you try this again, you will be blocked indefinitely! Favonian (talk) 18:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
April 2019
edit Your recent editing history at Sami Yusuf shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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You instantly tried to resume your edit-war on this page as soon as your block ended. That's another big no-no. - LouisAragon (talk) 12:12, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Favonian (talk) 18:44, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
This is your only warning; if you purposefully and blatantly harass fellow Wikipedian(s) again, as you did at User:HistoryofIran, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. This message is being given to you as a final warning since you've engaged in edit warring and are currently blocked. Take this advice to ensure that you stop harassing users, start discussing things instead of edit warring, and ensure that your future actions show that you are here for the right reasons. Dusti*Let's talk!* 18:54, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
Blocked indefinitely
editIn spite of my previous warning, you chose to evade your block repeatedly using IPs in the range 185.239.172.0/22. As promised, you are now blocked indefinitely. Favonian (talk) 19:58, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
Mjahangir777 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
UTRS appeal #24722 was submitted on Apr 14, 2019 10:35:13. This review is now closed.
--UTRSBot (talk) 10:35, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Dear Dusti*Let's talk!* and Favonian
I'm still blocked and can not write anything on the TALK page. What do you advice?
Mjahangir 09:59, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- While blocked you can edit only your user talk page (this page). You need to make an unblock appeal here, as instructed in the block message above. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:12, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Answers to questions you have asked on talk pages, and some advice for the future
edit- On several talk pages you have asked questions such as why you are blocked, and why your talk page messages have been removed. Here are a few comments, in the hope that they may help you better understand the relevant issues.
- Obviously in the English language version of Wikipedia it is more likely to be helpful to readers, other things being equal, for references to be in English. However, that does not mean that we exclude all content for which it is not possible, or not easy, to find references in English, it simply means that we prefer English sources if they are available. As Skywatcher68 has explained to you, sources do not have to be in English.
- You have repeatedly asked why you are blocked. I will try to explain to you why you are blocked, in the hope you will understand this time, even though you have already been told why you are blocked, and apparently didn't understand. Wikipedia works by editors collaborating. Very often editors disagree, as must happen in a project open to anyone to contribute to. When we disagree we discuss the issues involved, in the hope of reaching an agreement, or at least a compromise which we are all willing to accept. Unfortunately we don't always succeed in doing so, in which case consensus among most editors is accepted, even though that means that one or more editors don't get the result that they would have liked. Hundreds of times in my editing career spanning the last 13 years I have had to accept that the outcome of a discussion has been one that I disagreed with. Most editors accept that in a project created by many people with different opinions any one editor will sometimes have to accept an outcome they think is wrong. Unfortunately, however, a small minority of editors think that if they disagree with other editors then they should do the following. (1) Keep on posting what they prefer in articles over and over again, in the hope that eventually everyone else will give up, so that the most stubborn editor finishes up getting his or her way. (2) Keep on posting what they think in talk pages over and over again, ignoring anything they are told about Wikipedia policies and guidelines, because they are convinced that their opinion is RIGHT and anyone who disagrees with it is wrong. Unfortunately, we all think our opinions are right, and each one of us just insisting over and over again that he or she is right and ignoring everyone else's opinion achieves nothing apart from wasting everyone's time. Editors who follow the line I have just described create problems for other editors, and take up time that could have been better used on more constructive work for the encyclopaedia, so usual practice is to warn them that what they are doing is unacceptable, and if they still do the same then they are blocked from editing for a while, in the hope that they will get the message and start cooperating after the block is over. That is what happened to you. You were warned about edit-warring, and ignored the warning, so you were blocked for one day. You chose to ignore that, and continued to edit-war, so you were blocked again, for longer. You chose to evade the block by editing without using your account, so you were blocked indefinitely. You chose to evade that block, and continued to edit both by editing without using an account and by using other accounts. If you had made different choices you would not now be blocked.
- You have been told how to request an unblock. "Just ignore the block and continue to edit using another account or not using an account" is not what you were told.
- As you know, I have removed some of the content that you posted to this page while evading blocks. Wikipedia policy is that editing by blocked editors may be removed on sight. The purpose of that is to persuade blocked editors that evading blocks is not worth doing, as any editing they do while evading a block will achieve nothing. I did not in fact remove every edit that you made while blocked, but only the most recent ones, in the hope that doing so might convey to you the message that you will not get away with evading your blocks. Since you have continued to evade your block after I did that, evidently it hasn't worked. If I see you evading your block again, whether by using another account or by editing without using an account the I shall carefully go through the editing history and remove every edit which you have made, on any page, while evading one or more blocks.
- I have explained at some length the reasons for your block, since you asked what the reason was. I hope that will help make it clearer to you. However, please also remember that there have been various other problems with your editing too, which you have already been told about, such as editing for promotional purposes, and editing contrary to the guidelines on conflict of interest. Even if you persuade an administrator that lifting your block for edit-warring and block evasion will lead to benefit for the encyclopaedia, you should bear in mind that those other problems, if they continue, may lead to a further block. In view of all the messages you have received over the last four years, and which have not led to any change in your practices, you might well have been blocked long ago, and now that the problems have come to the notice of administrators it is less likely that any continued infractions will be overlooked, so my advice is to be very careful if and when you are unblocked, and make sure you read take note of the relevant policies and guidelines. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:51, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- One more point which I didn't think to mention when I wrote the message above. Joining two adjectives of nationality or ethnicity together, as in "Iranian-British", does not imply dual citizenship. For a very long time it has been common in American English to use expressions such as "Japanese American" and "Italian American" to refer to United States citizens whose ancestry or ethnic background is from somewhere else, without implying dual citizenship. In more recent times the same has become common in British English, except that it is for some reason more common in British usage to put the words the other way round, so that "British Iranian" would perhaps be better. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:01, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Dear JamesBWatson,
Thank you for clarify, I will send you a longer message here responding to your text.
I would very appreciated if you can unblock me and my colleague accounts, that we can continue in the talk page and answer to your points directly or guide us a way responding to you directly by email or whatever you prefer.
Best regards,
Mjahangir 12:52, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Mjahangir 14:28, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
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Dear JamesBWatson,
Thank you for your response and clarification.
I apologize for evading the block. I did not know about the rules and assure this will not happen again. Also, for the sake of transparency with you the below response was drafted together with my colleagues at Clover Management which manage Mr Yusuf worldwide. As English is not my first language I asked for their assistance to avoid further misunderstanding. I also would like to apologize for the length of the email.
Please see below some information that I would like to clarify.
1- For the last 16 years of Sami Yusuf’s public profile/career there has never been a mention of dual nationality. Neither on Wikipedia or Google or any other media source. He has been correctly described as British in all these years and you can see this in just very few sources I mention below:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2006/apr/27/1?INTCMP=SRCH https://www.thenational.ae/arts-culture/music/sami-yusuf-to-play-one-night-only-show-in-abu-dhabi-1.848368 http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1220754,00.html https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04gnhvx https://www.wfp.org/news/news-release/sami-yusuf-dedicates-new-song-typhoon-survivors-philippines
2- It is false to call Sami Yusuf "British-Iranian" as he does not hold Iranian citizenship and never has. For the purpose of clarification he is ethnically Azeri (not Iranian). So if one wanted to insist on referring to him by his ethnicity then he would need to be described as British-Azeri. Again, Sami Yusuf only holds British Citizenship.
3- These changes only occurred recently by two users that we are suspecting to be Iranian nationalists/supremacists who have their own agendas behind making these changes.
4- Regarding your point about the nationality I refer to other examples of celebrities who have Western passports but are of different ethnic backgrounds. To give you a few examples: Sir Mo Farah (https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Mo_Farah), who was born in Mogadishu/ Somalia, is described as a ‘British Athlete’, The singer Dua Lipa (https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Dua_Lipa), who is of Albanian descent is described as an ‘English singer’ London’s mayor Sadiq Khan (https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Sadiq_Khan), who is of Indian/Pakistani ancestry is described as a ‘British politician’. The list is countless.
We do not understand why Sami Yusuf is suddenly treated differently? Is there something about Sami Yusuf that does not make him ‘British enough’? Honestly, it is difficult to not think of behind the scenes agendas by some of the users (it seems to be the same people). We believe that these changes are done in bad faith without interest in truth. Not acknowledging Mr Sami Yusuf as a British citizen, ‘having to add’ and emphasize an ethnic background to him (which is again- if one wanted to be truthful - not Iranian but Azeri) is simply discriminatory.
Please understand that (and I am sure you are aware) Wikipedia has become a reference for many. From media outlets to even embassy staff. We were actually made aware of this recent change on your platform by a media outlet that sent us a press release about an upcoming performance. In that press release Sami Yusuf was described as 'British-Iranian' and when we checked we were informed that this information was taken from Wikipedia. It is very difficult and time consuming for us to correct all false information.
We would sincerely appreciate if you could help us delete this false information from our artist's wikipedia page. We have also contacted our lawyers who will make sure that all false articles will be removed/rectified. However, as you can imagine, this takes a bit of time. It really is a vicious cycle where one article is removed and another one is put up that is based on false information taken from Wikipedia. It is frustrating to say the least. In the meantime we hope that you can work with us so that this false information does not get picked up by more media and spread any further.
Thank you and I look forward to hear from you.
Mjahangir 14:28, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Legal action
edit- You say "We have also contacted our lawyers who will make sure that all false articles will be removed/rectified." You obviously have the right to take whatever legal action you wish, but while legal action is in progress (or the threaten of legal action exists), you are prohibited from editing Wikipedia. You will not be unblocked and nobody here will discuss Sami Yusuf with you until your legal action is concluded and/or the legal threat is withdrawn. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:42, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- I have upgraded the block to cover the legal threat/legal action too. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:55, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion
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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 15:48, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Response to legal action
edit@Boing! said Zebedee: @JamesBWatson:
Hello there,
For transparency, the below message has been drafted with the help of Mr. Yusuf’s management as English is not my first language.
I think there has been a misunderstanding. Please let it be clear: there is NO legal threat—either implicitly or explicitly—towards Wikipedia nor anyone else. We are not intending to take “legal action” against anyone. On the contrary, Wikipedia is a public platform run by passionate volunteers! Who exactly would we be ‘threatening’ here? What I meant was that we will strive —with the help of our lawyers—to get inaccurate articles removed outside Wikipedia (eg BBC PERSIAN etc). In fact, we have already contacted several media outlets. However, to expedite the process we decided to use our lawyers as they may have a better chance of reaching key individuals /decision makers. I hope that this clarifies the matter.
As mentioned before, Wikipedia has become a huge success and serves as a ‘first point of reference’ and a major source of information for so many. Therefore, I’m sure you appreciate that having an accurate bio/page is of paramount importance.
We are grateful that someone from your organisation takes out time to respond to us and we sincerely apologise for any misunderstandings caused.
We remain hopeful that this matter will be resolved as soon as possible.
Best regards,
Madi
Mjahangir 05:56, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Dear @Dusti: and @JamesBWatson:
Did you check the message above. Your response would be very appreciated.
- Here are a few comments.
- Thank you for clarifying the legal issue. You have made it clear that you do not intend to take any legal action against anyone in connection with Wikipedia editing, so perhaps Boing! said Zebedee will be willing to remove the mention of legal threats that he added to the block log.
- Luckily I came back to this page to see whether you had posted anything more since the last time I was here. If I hadn't done so it is possible that nobody would ever have seen your message, because your ping didn't work. For a ping to work it has to be posted in the same edit as a ~~~~ to sign the post. It doesn't work if you just post the ping without the ~~~~, or if you post the ping and add ~~~~ in two separate edits, or if you modify an existing ping by putting in a different name. If you still want Dusti to see your message then I suggest you ping him again, making sure that this time you do include a signature.
- I have made a change to the first sentence of the article, which I hope will be a compromise which everyone can agree to accept, even if it isn't quite what anyone would ideally have liked. I have explained what I have done on the article's talk page, so I won't repeat what I said here.
- You are free to make another unblock request if you wish to. If you do so, then you will need to make it clear that you understand the reasons for the block, and will not make the same mistakes again. I also think it only fair to mention that I do have some doubts about some of the things you have said, such as your statement that you don't understand Persian, and I would not personally unblock you unless that were to be cleared up, though of course another administrator might take a different view. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:00, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yep, I'm happy to update the block log, and have reblocked with an appropriate comment. (On the subject of pings, I'm convinced they sometimes don't work even when they're done properly.) Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:12, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Dear @JamesBWatson:,
Thank you very much for your response in helping to get this most pressing matter resolved. We truly appreciate it. Kindly see my response to your points below:
1. Thank you for removing the ‘legal action’ mention from the block log. Once again, I would like to emphasise that “legal action”--of any kind--was never considered. My sincere apologies for the misunderstanding.
2. Thank you for clarifying the ping issue. I was sure I used the ping with the signature Mjahangir 12:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC), but I guess I might have made a mistake.
3. Thank you very much for this. It’s very helpful and a reasonable compromise at this stage.
4. I will make another unblock request and assure you that I will not make the same mistakes. With regards to the misunderstanding about Persian, I would like to clarify that I myself understand Persian but Mr. Yusuf’s management (who are based in UK, USA and UAE) do not. I am part of the team that manages website and social media. Therefore, what I meant to say is that I am the only person from the ‘Sami Yusuf Team’ that understands Persian. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding.
By the way, would it be possible for “CCloverm16” (from Mr Yusuf’s management team) to also be unblocked? She honestly does not have a clue of how Wiki works and was merely following talk instructions before the christening of her first post got her blocked. However, if this is not possible we totally understand and respect Wikipedia’s rule.
Once again, thank you very much for taking out the time to attend to this issue.
Best regards,
Madi
Mjahangir 12:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)