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C'mon aussie

Do you think you'd like to join forces and get Flag of Australia featured? There are several featured flags, all we'd have to do is copy the structure and fill in the gaps. Let me know. --nixie 00:36, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

• Neat, I will probably start tinkering with it later tonight.--nixie 05:42, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm guessing most of the conversation was generated by people that are no longer interested in the article. Plus the flag debate fork removed the need to argue over the design and its relevance. The first thing that I notice we need is a version of this or this, it is probably easier to follow in black and white.--nixie 07:29, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
    • No need to include all the info, the size of the stars is the most important thing and it's all in the 1953 act, so noone can actaully say they own the basic information. The image in the first link is and easier design to follow, mabye copy the lines from it and the dimensions from the other? I can't find an offical flag size schedule anywhere, so you could just pick a size and work out the measurments based on that.--nixie 08:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
      • The version I'm looking at looks great. There are 2 missing Australian flags, and a heap of gifs versions for others. I'll chase another flag maker if you're not interested.--nixie 09:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Do you think you'd be able to whip up a version of the Anti-Transporation flag for the flag article? Its coming along quite nicely so far.--nixie 22:32, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I haven't been able to find any specs, so the one on Flags of the World is probably the best thing to go off. There really is a white border, which took me a while to realise.--nixie 23:27, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll work on an article for it tonight.--nixie 23:48, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

• The red on the FOTW version is brighter that the red on the current national flag, but I'm nure that record would exist specifying the exact shade of red. Since it's the St George Cross it should probably be the same red as the Flag of England - which looks a bit brighter than the Aus Flag, but that could just be the differnt backgrounds. I'm totally lost when it somes to fixing the line problem.--nixie 00:33, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

The gallery automatically adds borders it seems. The National Colonial Flag and the Eureka Flag are .jpg and .png respectively if you're keen to make svg versions; it would be appreciated.--nixie 01:39, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

All the flags in the gallery on the page look like they have borders to me, is it because I'm using the classic skin? It wouldn't be hard to make it into a table if we need to.--nixie 02:44, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Mabye we should ask about in on the Village Pump.--nixie 02:53, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

No luck on the VP, the table doesn't look bad, it takes up less space which is probably a good thing. I think you should go ahead and switch them. Thanks.--nixie 08:50, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

canberra/district maps

Barnstar move to main page Hi Martyman, great job on the canberra bushfire maps! The animated map is fantastic (havent looked at that article in a while and I just noticed them) I was also just wondering if it would be good to have separate maps for the districts of Canberra - the same map thats there now but with the other districts done in grey or subdued colours so that the particular district stands out? (just if you have time) -- Astrokey44|talk 03:49, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

I think they look great but I know what you mean about things not turning out the way you imagine - they look better when you imagine how theyre going to look :) Well the separate district maps isnt something hugely important, just an idea if you felt like it -- Astrokey44|talk 10:01, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes theyre awesome! Ive put them on the articles. its nice being able to see different maps when you go between the district articles. thanks heaps for doing that. Regards -- Astrokey44|talk 13:15, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Generator

Done, if it goes walking again let me know and I will warn the user.--nixie 10:15, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

The history is back at Homopolar, is that where it needs to be?--nixie 10:23, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Everything is OK now. utcursch | talk 10:27, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

It might be a good idea to leave the redirect there for a while so that the vandal can't move the page again.--nixie 10:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Self ref

Seems to be going OK to me, see also seems like the best option.--nixie 11:25, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Flags

Do you think that the Australia flags (Blue, Red) would be out of crown copyright and the defence ensigns would all still be under crown copyright?--nixie 08:15, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Map

If you get a chance coulod you make a version of this map, thanks. --nixie 06:28, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Looks great, the other labels make the original a bit confusing, I think the Island names and Bass Strait might be good additions.--nixie 07:50, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again.--nixie 23:17, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Could you please add a blank locator map to {{Politics of Australia sidebar}}, from my reading the CoA can only be used as fair use, and therefore should not appear in templates. Thanks.--nixie 00:14, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Should be OK, I'm having issues keeping the flags off the defence templates.--nixie 01:50, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

You're right, I copied a disclaimer from a photo in another article I worked on, I've removed the statement.--nixie 04:14, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Just so you know...

Just so you know, that after a full year long recovery from the tse tse immune defective virus, The Hardest Questions in the World Section is back on my user page!! Don't be too quick to tire the section out too quickly, but make sure you pop round to make sure you get a good score on the leader's board.... Spawn Man 04:57, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Flag

It can go straight to FAC, I don't think peer review would add a lot. I will get around to nominating it sometime this week, unless someone beats me to it.--nixie 22:46, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

HQITWS

You are currently tied 2nd on the leader's board, being behind of 1st place by 3 points. Spawn Man 03:00, 23 January 2006 (UTC). BTW, Well done on taking down the beast, the glogg question had everyone stumped. That question hadn't moved since the quiz first opened..... good job.

Copyrighted material

Thanks for the warning concerning copyrighted material. I've added a GFDL to the Crookesmoor Building but the rest I'll have to retake as I posted them to a website but have since deleted the originals from my computer (barring the obvious that have come from website's). I'm a bit confused as to movie posters. Can you recommend anybody to ask?

Thanks for the help, I've done as suggested with the two photos. Pally 12:20, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Another image request

Hi, could you make a nice graph showing the historical population growth of Sydney. It's going to be the next Australian article I try to get featured. It's not in bad shape, but it's missing lots of basic information like - economy, demographics, education... --nixie 00:12, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

• Phew, the ABS is not giving me any joy wrt the earlier numbers.--nixie 00:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks, I can't see anything that needs changing. The article also needs a map like this or this, which would be preferable to an LGA map which would be indecipherable in the thumb - I think. There is an OK satellie image in the article which could be used as a base, but I'm not sure the satellite images covers the whole area.--nixie 01:12, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
  • There are LGA maps like Image:Holroyd lga sydney.png, I still think a region one is a bit more informative.--nixie 01:14, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Cool, there's no hurry, everything is harder to find for Sydney than it was for Canberra. Any idea where one would find the GDP/unemployment for a statistical division?--nixie 04:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
    • There's an updated version for unemployment and some other indicators for 2003, but it seems odd to use such an old figure.--nixie 04:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
• Neat, but I don't suppose you've come across one on the unemployed force?--nixie 05:09, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Although the number of employed people is an interesting statistic, you can't work out the rate of unemployment without knowing how many people there are that want to be in the workforce but aren't (the unemployed). I might try the state government, or pick a year that has all the relavant stats - like 2003.--nixie 05:15, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
    • I neglected to click on the other tabs.... just as well tomorrow is a holiday.--nixie 05:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

HQITWS

You are currently in 2nd place with 7 points. You are 3 points behind 1st place. Spawn Man 00:24, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry minor glitche with the man power calculation the votes... basically I stuffed up! You are currently in tied 2nd place with 7 points. You are 3 points behind 1st place. Spawn Man 00:29, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Map

Wow, it looks great. I'll leave it up to you, but like Image:Canberra Map-MJC.png, I think the names are better on the map. Since synney is so big it might be worth adding major centers, but that might clutter things up too much.--nixie 22:30, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

well i dont agree with you at all....in fact i think your reasoning is simple minded....if you are half irish or half italian or whatever...your ethnic origin is both irish and italian....what else could it be....yes u are australian....but you ancestry or ethnic roots would be irish or italian....i feel bad to see that you fail to understand the common thread between both terms...here in canada ...were are asked to report our ethnic origins...i.e where did your ancestors come from...even if it goes back to grandparents or great grandparents...case in point...there are thousands of people whose parents were born in china....thus their ancestors are from china...do you mean to tell me that their ethnicity is not chinese....come on....use some rationale ...

Forrester Kangaroo

Hi! You removed my addition of Forrester kangaroos and reverted the opening to "there are three species". The Forrester is, indeed, a Grey Kangaroo, but which one -- Eastern or Western? I'm also quite sure, there are more than three species of definite kangaroos, even if you ignore the dubiousness of the kangaroo-wallaby-pademelon distinction :-)... пан Бостон-Київський 19:46, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

3D images

I concur. I also think that this user's images are poor of themselves and are poorly captioned, but that is another matter. Adam 13:14, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I believe this is called sockpuppetry and is a bannable offence if proved, but I am not an expert on Wikipedia's processes. You could ask at Village Pump what to do, or ask an administrator if you know one. Adam 13:22, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Military Flags on templates

If that's the argument, then enforce the policy completely, not just where it suits you. Hammersfan, 13.51 GMT, 29 January 2006

Regarding the Cadillac images recently posted

I have marked the images as "self-made". I usually state that I am a Photo-Journalist, which implies that I have likely created the images. I give them to Wiki Foundation with no strings attached. Since they are in deeply incrypted 3D, they are unlikely to to taken for uses that would normally generate royalties. This seems to be reasonable compliance. My work as a historical/ cultural documentary director is well known. I have worked in Museum photography for over 40 years, as well as extensive field work, all over the world. I will only add images where I objectively see an advantage to the article. If you have doubts as to the vividness of the color possible with the new technique; check on images at Wiki: "Custom Cars". Like many people, I don't like the messed up look of old fashioned 3D still images. These images only have about 10% of the typical mess. Seen with the kind of glasses, (plastic) used in college courses, they look surprisingly good. The "National Geographic" was once all black & white. Then slowly color was added. Many prefered the black & white, but over time, a place was found at the table for color. Good 3D has a more limited application, but when it adds something...it can be very powerful.I'd be glad to send some good glasses to the first 10 editors who would ask. Just e-mail me at: sharper3d@yahoo.com.

move of proposed policy

I would advocate use of the move tab rather than copy/paste moves, even when moving things from sandboxes, as it preserves history (and that's required by the default WP:GFDL we use. Just a thing to consider next time. I'll try to drop a pointer to the policy on a few talk pages if I can. (forgot to say I'm a "keep threaded, I watch" guy) ++Lar: t/c 23:54, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I know I did think about the history and in the end decided to to it the way I did on purpose. The main reason being if I had moved it then the policy would have always had the old history of my recycled sandbox in it, which is not very appropriate. I will add a comment that earlier page history can be found at my sandbox. --Martyman-(talk) 00:02, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, makes sense... no worries then, mate. ++Lar: t/c 00:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

PS I put a note about Wikipedia:3D Illustrations here: Wikipedia talk:Images and media for deletion... that might draw some folk in. ++Lar: t/c 01:07, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Redundant image help

Thanks for doing that, I really had no idea what to do there. Pacific Coast Highway|^{Leave a message ($.25)} 06:27, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Tagging images as no license

You recently tagged an image that I uploaded as having no license ([1]). The {{no license}} template states you should leave {{subst:image copyright|image name}} tag on the talk page of the uploader. Even though the image was on my watchlist, please do so in the future. Thanks! --M@thwiz2020 21:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I normally check if the user is stilla round and let them know. I must have gotten sloppy. It seems that with 95% of untagged images the uploader is no longer an active wikipedian. With regards to the actual picture, does it fall under the US government PD license? --Martyman-(talk) 21:20, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

The status of Maryland state government images is not mentioned on wikipedia's image tagging page. I would assume it is actually under copyright and not in the public domain. DO you have reason to think otherwise? --Martyman-(talk) 21:26, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I know - I get sloppy sometimes while doing such repetitive tasks en masse. As for the picture, I used to be extremely active in school articles, and I, one day, decided to take a USGS aerial photo of the school and upload. That sparked a whole slew of controversy with the end result being that USGS aerial photos are PD - they even have their own tag, too! (Moreover, most school articles now include them. I think that if I wasn't so arrogant about all other articles copying me, I would have left Wikipedia - of course, I have better reasons for staying now that I'm a devoted Wikipedian.) Anyways, that debate kind of made me fearful of tagging images, so I don't get involved in that stuff. I don't see any fitting category under WP:IT - could you please take a look and see what you think? The source page doesn't have a copyright notice at the bottom, but is that enough to avert deletion? Thanks for all your help, both with this image and with tagging images in general! --M@thwiz2020 21:28, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

From what I can tell some states in the US release their works as public domain (like the Federal Government), while most retain copyright. By teh fact that both the montgomery public schools page and the montgomery county pages are marked copyrigthed I assume they do have copyright protection in Maryland. I am not sure of the copyright rules in the US (I'm Australian), but in Australia is automatic and does not have to be claimed. If this is the case in the US I would guess it needs to be deleted. I notice it isn't actually used in any articles in the first place though, (I think that is why I slipped up and didn't check if you where around). It is now fully accepted on wikipedia that any work of the Federal government is in the public domain, well done on getting the USGS stuff through. --Martyman-(talk) 21:38, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for clarifying this! I've speedied it under G7, rather than waiting for I5. --M@thwiz2020 21:43, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Airports

The user seems to have gone to some effort to meet the fair use requirements, which is better than most. I would tag them as {{fairusereplace}} to advertise that we should try and get free replacements. There is also {{fairusereview}} which tags the images for review, but I have no idea who does the review or if there is even an active process for reviewing fair use images (I'm pretty sure there isn't). If there are more that 2 "fair use" images of the same place, orphan one, the justification for fair use becomes increasingly weak with the increasing number of stolen images. Hope that helps.--nixie 23:58, 30 January 2006 (UTC)