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BKTPP Prabir Sengupta Vidyalaya

You declined this draft, which was first of mine. As I am novice and this is my first project, I don't know what else I have to add to get this draft published. I'll be glad if you kindly mention the points which this draft lacks, so that I may add them before resubmitting next time. Btw, I have found a similar article - Kolaghat Thermal Power Plant High School which had sources and informations much less than this draft during the time of publication (Even currently may have). Thank you in advance.--Michri michri (talk) 13:40, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

• Hi Michri michri all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). In this case see WP:NSCHOOL and WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES which in summary means most secondary schools are not notable enough to be included. Note that the Other stuff exists is only likely to get other articles that already exist deleted if they are not notable/have the same issues - as such Kolaghat Thermal Power Plant High School is now proposed to be deleted. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 13:49, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Ok, but please tell me what kind of details I have to add to get the draft published. Please KylieTastic, this is my first project.Michri michri (talk) 13:54, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Michri michri as I said above "Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic" (see WP:42) - so its not about the details to add, but the references to show it is notable rather than just existing. Are there newspaper articles that talk about the school in detail, and notable events that were written about, etc. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:57, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Sadashib (Fictional Character)

You might have declined my proposal of the article about the school for being non-notable, even I now partially think so, but your decline of the 'Draft:Sadashib (Fictional Character)' really doesn't make any sense, as I think it is of course eligible for being published as an article without an iota of doubt. It is well-cited and contain enough amount of information, more of which will be added soon. If you don't mind, I would say that only a person with a little knowledge in Bengali literature can understand who this fictional character is, even others can by searching it through the web. To be honest, it was really astounding for me that this character did not have an article earlier. Sorry again, please don't review it if I propose it again for publication with even more info. Any advice regarding the development of this draft will be welcomed. Grácias.

• Hi Michri michri, sorry but Draft:Sadashib (Fictional Character) is not "well-cited" - The first two sources are Wikis - all user-generated content including Wikipedia are not considered reliable sources and in both cases the history shows that are each the work of a single editor with no sources; The third source just returns an error; The others are just recordings of one of the adaptations. Basically there is nothing to show notability for the character as a stand-alone subject. So as before "Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic" (see WP:42). The subject "Sadashib" may be notable but from previous deletion discussions many fictional characters just get redirected back to the source content unless there are good independent sources. The author and their work are notable, but each character has to show independent notability. This is why fandom exists (created by the founder of Wikipedia), because there are many subjects fans love and are enthusiastic about but have very little independent reliable sources. Sorry but with zero independent sources no reviewer would accept. Does the topic exist on Bengali Wikipedia (I could not find one) if so does it have sources that can be used, if not maybe they do not consider Sadashib individually notable either. Sorry to disappoint again, but if you want to re-submit and get another opinion you can and I'll leave it too another. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 11:13, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I will search for more reliable sources. In the meantime, could you please fix the problems the draft has in the notes and reference list, if any?Michri michri (talk) 11:58, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

• Michri michri just a thought - if this is well known you character could try asking for help/advice at Wikipedia:WikiProject India - I would say Wikipedia:WikiProject Fictional characters but it does not look active. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:05, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michri michri (talk • contribs) 12:14, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Here I am citing some sources which may come useful in the development of this draft:-

1.https://kids.kiddle.co/Sharadindu_Bandyopadhyay

2.https://www.bookishsanta.com/blogs/booklings-world/books-sharadindu-bandhopadhayay

3.https://beautiful-bengal.quora.com/The-story-series-for-which-Saradindu-Bandopadhyay-was-awarded-National-Award-for-Literature-adventures-of-Sadashiv-a

4.https://archive.org/details/SadashibComicbook/1.%20Sadashib%20-%20adikando/page/n0/mode/2up

5.https://www.parabaas.com/translation/database/authors/texts/saradindu.html

6.https://www.getbengal.com/details/saradindu-bandopadhyay-not-just-detective-byomkesh-but-a-master-writer-of-historical-novels

7.https://www.thisday.app/en/details/the-man-behind-byomkesh-bakshi

Please convey your opinion regarding the sources cited. If they are apt, then kindly add them to the respective places and remove the old ones, if you think so. Thank you --Michri michri (talk) 08:49, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Michri michri I am no expert on all sources and it takes time to assess - for instance I have no clue on kids.kiddle.co as its unclear who writes it. I can say quora.com is generally junk as just user-created content. However, note Wikipedia has a place to ask questions such as this... the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard - you should ask there. Also I did click on a couple and they appears to be more about Sharadindu Bandyopadhyay than the character. However apart from that I'm trying to take a break from Wikipedia after doing over 48,000 edits in 2021. Wishing you a happy 2022, Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:53, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

I expect you,KylieTastic, to be in the pinnacle of glory and success in the august beginning of the year 2022. I don't have any clear idea about who edits and writes Kindle.co but I know that it is quite safe site. Yes, most of the cited sources deal with the immortal creations of the immortal author, Sharadindu Bandyopadhyay, but within those discussions, separate sections are present for this adventure-mongering fictional character. I will ask in Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard as per your advice. But please tell me whether I will remove the previous links from the draft, or they will be kept as they are. Also, kindly tell me what my next step will be before resubmitting this draft for review. Thank you in advance and once again warm greetings for the auspicious beginning of 2022.Michri michri (talk) 17:18, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Michri michri I have removed the unsourced wikis as they would only make others see it negatively. I have fixed another link as archive.org was doing odd things forwarding to a url it then rejected as not valid. The YouTube links are something some would not like as per WP:YOUTUBE it would depend it the videos are copyright violations. As for the next step - if yoou can find enough reliable sources that talk about Sadashib then just add them as best you can and re-submit - however if fining sources proves difficult (as it often does with characters) one option you have is to start by just expanding the section in the main article Sharadindu_Bandyopadhyay#Sadashib. It is now nearly 6PM and I have spent yet another day mostly answering questions, emails, texts, whatsapps, etc.... so I am going to start turning off notifications. All the best, KylieTastic (talk) 17:48, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Not a bad idea at all, but would not it make the particular section regarding Sadashib much longer as compared to the whole article? Anyway, I shall try it if the resubmission fails (most probably it is going to happen) after citing the newly found sources at their respective places .My last request--- As per your report, most part of the draft seems to be copied from Punchepidea, so I want it to be rewritten before submission to avoid plagiarism issues. Now, I'll remain ever thankful to you if you kindly help me to rewrite it. Please, KylieTastic, this is my last request to your goodself.--Michri michri (talk) 12:15, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you for pointing me in the right direction with my suggested article in the wrong language!

SVSR71 (talk) 14:31, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

John Burder

Please can you explain to me what I need to do and why the page I created was not accepted? I am very new to this. Thanks for your help. I've put many references from publications to newspaper articles FilmsUK (talk) 18:56, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi FilmsUK all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). In this case Wikipedia:Notability (people) is the guideline reviewers would use. Your references are mostly for their own work (the first 11 sources) which is good to verify the claims, but does not help show notability. You need sources that talk about the subject - i.e. John Burder, such as reviews of these books. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:07, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi KylieTastic I have found many other reviews of the books aswell as direct references to Mr Burder's publications within University journals and papers written by highly notable Doctors and University Professors of History. Would this addition make the page accepted? As well as the articles written in The Times and other newspapers about Mr Burder's publications?

https://www.academia.edu/25530199/Inhumanity_in_the_Great_War?pop_sutd=false

https://www2.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2b983855b6 — Preceding unsigned comment added by FilmsUK (talk • contribs) 20:23, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/diary-hidden-for-41-years-reveals-soldiers-hell-in-first-world-war-r0qn903lgbm

https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2015/13-march/books-arts/book-reviews/men-of-god-in-wartime

https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/095238907X/ref=acr_dp_hist_5?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=five_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2804799/Son-WW1-soldier-sells-home-publish-father-s-harrowing-memoirs-life-trenches.html

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/8276859.horror-story-from-first-world-war/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by FilmsUK (talk • contribs) 19:58, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi FilmsUK I'm trying to take a brake from Wikipedia as it's just become a second job - however I will make a couple of quick comments...

First source academia.edu does not talk about the subject John Burder at all

Second source bfi.org.uk lists the films of "John Burder Films" production company - if some of these films where notable, or another couple of sources recognised these as an improtant body of work that would make them notable per WP:FILMMAKER. However even a google of "The Abc of Safety Signs" only returns this single link.

Third thetimes.co.uk is a very reliable source but I do not have access to the whole article, but what I can see it is about "Claude Burder" but does it have any depth to the coverage of John Burder

Forth churchtimes.co.uk does not talk about the subject John Burder at all

Fifth - no amazon reviews are not a valid source - and having just four everyday people say they like your book is not the level of note required for an Encyclopedic entry. Also I would expect some to be friends, family etc and not independent (WP:INDY)

Sixth - junk source can not be used - see WP:DAILYMAIL - Which is a pity as I cant see how even the daily mail could spin and distort this topic and if published anywhere else this would have been good, but due to so many issues Wikipedia depreciated it as a source and per WP:DAILYMAIL "the Daily Mail should not be used for determining notability"

Seventh - this is OK however direct quotes are not independent so not used for notability leaving not much left. Also this appears to be local news about a Bournemouth resident of interest.

As such no there appears not to be anywhere near enough to show notability. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 10:56, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Malaysia is no longer 13 states!

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2021/12/14/dewan-rakyat-finally-passes-key-constitutional-amendments-to-recognise-ma63/2028384

why should you revert the Sarawak content? Kititto (talk) 11:51, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Clause 2 of Article 1 of the Federal Constitution to state that the states of the Federation comprises:

(a) the states of Malaya, namely Johor, Kedah, Kelantan, Melaka, Negri Sembilan, Pahang, Perak, Perlis, Penang, Selangor and Terengganu; and

(b) the Borneo states of Sabah and Sarawak. Kititto (talk) 12:00, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Kititto I reverted because your change were unsourced. Also from that source above: “This is about the recognition of Sabah and Sarawak as the states in Malaysia — with a difference,” the minister said. The source indicates that they are still states just with extra recognition. Nothing in that source says that they are not still states in Malaysia, as your latest edit also agrees with. KylieTastic (talk) 12:31, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

of course still "state", but with different definition, as the English word "state" has a lot of meaning: a nation, a sub-nation entity, a sub-federation sub-nation entity.

thus, using the term "13 states" only classified under same standard, which is no longer the case after the amendment of the bill.

If still the same, Malaysia Parliament won't even need to amend the constitution. Kititto (talk) 12:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

In the spirit of MA63, Sabah and Sarawak only signed agreement with the Malaya. Kititto (talk) 12:41, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

the keyword is: "equal partners": Malaya, Sabah (north borneo), Sarawak, and Singapore (which was expelled after). Kititto (talk) 12:42, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

https://www.theborneopost.com/2021/04/02/muhyiddin-calls-sarawak-a-region-malaysias-model-of-unity/ Kititto (talk) 12:47, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Name, States and territories of the Federation 1. (1) The Federation shall be known, in Malay and in English, by the name Malaysia. (2) The States of the Federation shall be Johore, Kedah, Kelantan, Malacca, Negeri Sembilan, Pahang, Penang, Perak, Perlis, Sabah, Sarawak, Selangor and Terengganu.

the above is how it looks like before the amendment. Kititto (talk) 12:51, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Kititto it still seams like word-play and if you are saying that the word state in "largest among the 13 states" and "largest state in Malaysia" mean different things then that should be made clearer to the readers. Your theborneopost.com link above though does make it clear that Muhyiddin Yassin wanted some differentiation. Also as you have now added the source for the new amendment that is fine now. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:11, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

look at the release date, and the time line. Kititto (talk) 00:12, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Muhyyddin statement come before the amendment which is the latest development. Kititto (talk) 00:13, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

it is not "clear" and misleading to state "13 state" as the state of the states of Malaysia Federation, which should be understand as the states Malaya Federation - Sabah - Sarawak.

The hierarchy is: Malaysia Federation - Malaya Federation - - Johore - - Selangor - - ... - Sabah - Sarawak Kititto (talk) 00:16, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

If your overseer of the page Sarawak...

http://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/19th_Sarawak_State_Legislative_Assembly

this is the latest update on government of Sarawak.

I'm not a savvy wikipedian, thus, don't know how to import this info to the page. Kititto (talk) 13:07, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• Kititto no I am not an overseer of any page, all editors are 'equal' but some do have extra permissions, but in general it's just about complying to the guidelines. Editors can "watch" a page for changes if they are interested and Sarawak currently has 163 watching it. I only noticed the page due to the vandalism done after your edits claiming it was now the "Federal Republic of Sarawak" which returned zero google hits. If you think there is content on 19th Sarawak State Legislative Assembly that should be added to Sarawak I assume you mean the Sarawak#Politics section you could ask the Skyalar who updated that article last or ask at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, or I may have a look if I get time. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:22, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

It was not me who made such change "Federal Republic of Sarawak". I only insist on fact. Kititto (talk) 00:20, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

By the way, thank you so much for guiding me on wikipedia editing. Kititto (talk) 05:41, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

• Kititto I meant the vandalism was done by the editor who edited after your edit Wilhelmina Julia - I did not mean that you had anything to do with the "Federal Republic of Sarawak" edits. KylieTastic (talk) 10:28, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

  Thank you for clearing the air, @KylieTastic. Kititto (talk) 11:00, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of photo Julian Lloyd Webber with Sir Arthur Bliss

Dear KylieTastic. I don't really understand why this is necessary. It is a photo of historical interest and I am its copyright holder. There are two other photos - also my copyright - which have recently been deleted from Julian Lloyd Webber's page which makes it less informative as a result. Thanks for your consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GHOUSE68 (talk • contribs) 08:37, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi GHOUSE68 firstly they have not been deleted from the "Julian Lloyd Webber's page" but were deleted from our media sister project Wikimedia Commons. all I can tell as I am not an administrator on commons, so all I can see of the file File:Sir Arthur Bliss and Julian Lloyd webber.jpg is the deletion reason "Media missing permission as of 11 December 2021)". From your talk page on commons c:User talk:GHOUSE68 I saw no notice so it looks like you did not upload, and so yes I then found the notices on c:User talk:Cocolinmichela. If you took the images and own the copyright then you should have uploaded them not Cocolinmichela who appears to have a history of copyright issues, also fails to understand what Wikipedia is - which is an Encyclopedia not a social media site where "right to choose what photos go on HIS OWN Wikipedia page". They have another file File:Stephane Grappelli with cellist Julian Lloyd Webber in 1981.jpg up for deletion. They also do not understand our Wikipedia:Conflict of interest policies and have failed to WP:DISCLOSE there connection to the subject, which I assume you also have. As for the images, if you do own the copyright then upload them yourselves on commons (c:Special:UploadWizard) and clearly state they you do own the copyright - however if these have been previously published this could be challenged (as a lot of random people just claim copyright) so you may have to use the "Interactive Release Generator" (c:Commons:Wikimedia VRT release generator). Another way if the images are already published on your website is to mark them with a suitable 'free' licence we can use see c:Commons:Licensing#Well-known_licenses then that used as the source when uploading. It may seam complex but a large number of people every day try to abuse others copyright, and as copyright is a legal issue it is taken seriously by Wikipedia and Wikimedia. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 11:41, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I will TRY doing what you suggest! All best GHOUSE68 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GHOUSE68 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

We need to chat for a while since i am here to find some users to chat, besides i cant find any users around, so can you talk to me a while Junkie257 (talk) 15:41, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

How to add Coords?

Hello,

I saw your recent edit on my draft, i was wondering if i can learn how to add the coordinates to the draft? Jamiebuba (talk) 11:01, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Jamiebuba yes I added {{Coord|13.188567|N|59.498139|W|display=title}} to Draft:Church View, Barbados see Template:Coord for details. However I see you use the visual editor that I don't use but it appears you just start typing {{ it brings up a template form, that you type Coord in to select the template, then I guessed the 1 and 2 args would be 13.188567 and -59.498139. Have a play in your sandbox. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:10, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

HELP

I'm new to Wikipedia and I have no idea what I'm doing. I've created my name, KCNabavi, three times and it's still in red as in available. I posted my bio, but it didn't take, so to speak. I got lost somewhere between "Talk" and "Sandbox"! Any suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KCNabavi (talk • contribs) 01:14, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi KCNabavi I'm not sure what you mean by your name bing red as User:KCNabavi is blue and your user page exists (see Wikipedia:User pages). User:KCNabavi/sandbox still exists but was rejected as it is not an Encyclopedic article. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:38, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Center for Risk and Reliability

@KylieTastic: I hope you had a great Holiday. I am returning to ask your opinion and support on my recent edits on a draft you have declined. I have increased the coverage and enriched the article with a more reliable source. Also, as a new Wikipedian I usually try to find existing articles similar to the one I am working on to set some references and expectations for myself, and I was using this page Center for reliability research as my reference. I noticed that the page I mentioned has no references at all. So my question is, are there different standards for organizations from outside the US? Thank you very much --Sarouk7 (talk) 21:31, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Sarouk7 yes Center for reliability research is terribly sourced and may not be notable - unfortunately there are still many articles created before we had Articles for creation and Wikipedia:New pages patrol that do not meet the required standards and need improvement or deletion. No there are no different standards for any subject based on location etc. WP:ORG applies to all. If Center for reliability research was submitted to AfC now it would be declined asking for more sources, as it exists someone would need to look for sources etc to improve, or if not found WP:PROD or take to WP:AFD. As for your article I'm not doing much editing at the moment and to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. You could as the later reviewer for input, or use one of the other options in the "Where to get help" link on the submission notice, or try the Wikipedia:Teahouse. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:53, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Stephie Theodora

Help me please with my article. I have made the article as short as possible. added links. I also have newspaper articles. Please tell me how can I save the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilyadante (talk • contribs) 15:24, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

• Ilyadante all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) (Note IMDB is not a reliable source see WP:IMDB, and medium and youtube rearly are either). Add what sources you can find and resubmit. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:01, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Skinny Hightower

Hello KylieTastic! I believe I've completed a draft for jazz pianist Skinny Hightower. If you could provide any feedback, it would be greatly appreciated (please don't decline; I'll sob). Kindest regards, WikiJazzHub (talk) 18:17, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi WikiJazzHub sorry I'm not very active at the moment and I don't review on request anyway. Draft:Skinny Hightower is submitted so a reviewer will get around to it in time. KylieTastic (talk) 22:35, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Request on 23:32:23, 23 January 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by P gilldhillon

• P gilldhillon (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Preet Inder Dhillon (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

hi, I really can't make out where am going wrong . probably I am unable to get as to how to write about references ..moreover I have tweets and pictures , how to use them to prove the authenticity of my work?

P gilldhillon (talk) 23:32, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi P gilldhillon the style of references makes it very difficult to verify. Also this appears to be an autobiography so also see Wikipedia:Autobiography and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. As the other reviewer pointed out as an author then WP:AUTHOR is the criteria we would use. We have a lot of people trying to use Wikipedia to self-promote so although references do not have to be online, when someone has a clear WP:COI we can't take things on trust. I found a couple of urls for the sources but could not verify more. Sources like this are odd as the PM is involved but the author is only mentioned in passing - and notability is not inherited. I looked and found this but it is content by the subject not by the subject, which if the others were like this would not be helpful as we require independent sources, not what people say about themselves. As Wikipedia:Autobiography says Writing an autobiography on Wikipedia is an example of conflict of interest editing and is strongly discouraged, however if you want to continue then start by adding any more actual urls to any of the sources so they can be actually reviewed. To be clear we are not saying the subject is notable or not, just that at the moment the sources are not clear enough to verify an Wikipedia:Autobiography. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Not allowing submission on Copilot

Hi,

you just declined the submission for Copilot. I created this article and I would like to know why it wasn't ready to be published?

Best M — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaLuBa97 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi MaLuBa97 as the decline notice says it does not show that it passes Wikipedia:Notability (films). The first source appears to be WP:PRIMARY so does not help for notability. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:51, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

hi

hello MiniMonster-123 (talk) 14:42, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Deleted some content of IMDb

Dear sir/mam, you had recently deleted some content from my page stating that IMDb is not a reliable source, which is absolutely true according to "WP:IMDb". What about this article: [1]

Provided article is fully based only on IMDb, and no any action is taken. Kindly go and check yourself.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobe8q8661 (talk • contribs) 09:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Bobe8q8661 yes unfortunately there is still a lot of articles created before current procedures that are not compliant with the guidelines. It was created in 2007, but I am surprised no one had tagged it before, so I have tagged as unsourced and notability not shown. I don't have the time at the moment to check for sources to see if it is notable and just unsourced or it it should be sent to WP:AFD for deletion. If you think it fails WP:FILM you can put up for deletion yourself. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:21, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Time (Five album) Draft

I saw someone else create a page for this and had it rejected twice. So I added a bit more to it, but am not quite sure why it keeps getting rejected. What exactly is wrong with it? I've seen Wikipedia pages with less content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:331F:C301:9CBA:EE97:36E9:B748 (talk) 12:22, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi, when I last reviewed on the 19th of December there were three sources that did not show how the album met the notability criteria as per WP:NALBUMS. The first source was just a listing, the second did not mention the album. See WP:NALBUMS for what we are looking for, existence is not enough. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:48, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Hey

Hello Yasindu Sethmika (talk) 17:49, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hey! KylieTastic (talk) 18:31, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Question

On my draft, Draft:MaiaSpace, you commented that I need more to prove notability. Need more of what? Sources or more text? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 17:04, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi StarshipSLS well although it could do with more content that is not really a requirement for notability. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Normally three+ really good sources is the minimum that is looked for. It would be good if there is any decent news coverage. Looks like you may find some help from the French version fr:Maïa Space (sources don't have to be in English). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:14, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

I will need some help on my draft

I saw an Iwasaki article on a site called "Game Developer Research Institute" and i wanted to create an article on Wikipedia. Nikotapp (talk) 17:13, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Nikotapp Draft:Iwasaki Electronics has been submitted but I did not review again I just added the reflist+section. What the reviewer will be using to judge notability is Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So if you can find any additional sources that talk about the company in depth that will help. You could also ask at the Wikipedia:Teahouse or Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan to see if you can find someone interested in helping. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:21, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

A beer for you!

A beverage for you while you are enjoying your break-ish. Cheers! S0091 (talk) 21:05, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hey S0091 thanks! Although I have been failing badly at having a break recently.... Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:41, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Wisdom

Hi KylieTastic, hope your 2022 is going well.

We are reaching out to learn if you could share some of your Wiki wisdom. We are launching a campaign for more people to edit Wikipedia. We'll be presenting an advance of the project at MozFest between March 7 -11th. Could you share recommendations to get the article reviewed before that date? Many thanks in advance for your consideration! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiLAC (talk • contribs) 17:19, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

• Hi WikiLAC it's been a tough start to 2022 (lots of real world stuff) hence why I'm taking a break from editing/reviewing. Firstly I have to address an issue... you say "We are", but please note that a Wikipedia account should represent an individual not a group, so if more than one person is using this account all but the primary should stop and create their own accounts. As for Draft:Digital Rights in the Caribbean yes it is in the relative dead zone of not being a new submission or one of the oldest. Such articles can still be picked up when reviewers just select a random article, but most probably because the subject area is of interest. We do have reviewers who have declared interests this but I see no easy matches. I have added some project templates to the talk page that may attract interest. It is also difficult to compare as I see no other articles about "Digital Rights in....". Without reviewing the content I would make some easy comments: The lead is is a bit more essay like than an encyclopedic lead and in unsourced, having a strong clear lead with good sources makes for a much easier accept; One source is a google search which is no good as results change per user and over time - use sources directly. Then lastly apart from just waiting you can try to find interested editors who edit/review similar topics or ask in associated wikiprojects or general areas such as the Wikipedia:Teahouse. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:56, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

• Hola KylieTastic I hope things get better soon! The Wiki edits are the result of an editathon we did with international and Caribbean organisations. Could you please clarify what you mean with "The lead is is a bit more essay like than an encyclopedic lead and in unsourced, having a strong clear lead with good sources makes for a much easier accept": excuse my ignorance, the lead is the intro paragraph? Would it help to include references to Wiki pages dedicated to digital human rights? Also, sorry about the issue with the Google search source. I have corrected that now! Looking forward to your comments to reach out for review to the groups you suggest.

• Yes WikiLAC the lead is the initial paragraph see MOS:LEAD. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:21, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

• Happy Sunday KylieTastic! I have followed your recommendations. Hopefully the article will soon be reviewed. Please share if you have any further advice. Thanks again for all your help!

Draft:Kevin Lee (Actor)

Hi Kylie,

I have been trying to create a page for Kevin lee ( Actor ) for sometime as I am a big fan of his work. He is quite famous in China. Recently he had 2 big articles released all about him. I believe this passes as reliable references. Unfortunately one of the reference was from Breitbart which WIki blocks. I would love to continue working on Kevin's page and if possible to review as soon as convenient. That would be fantastic. Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.97.200.247 (talk) 16:49, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

• Hi 103.97.200.247, sorry but firstly I'm not currently active, and secondly to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request. KylieTastic (talk) 18:28, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

February 2022

Hello and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I saw that an article you created, Template:Mr. Lif has not been added to any categories. According to the guideline Wikipedia:Categorization, every article should be in at least one category. Please help by adding categories to the articles you create. You can take a look at the categorization FAQ. If you need further help, ask at the Teahouse. Thank you. --Jax 0677 (talk) 01:18, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Jax 0677 I did not create that template, it was a AfC submission by 153.164.195.3. KylieTastic (talk) 19:25, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Could you please publish the Suhrawardy family page ?

Hi @KylieTastic ! I hope you're safe and doing well. Could you please publish this page. It has been reviewed since quite a long time. But it still stands unpublished. Cheers ! Jonas7798 (talk) 18:20, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Jonas7798 Suhrawardy family is an article and has been reviewed so I don't know what you mean. However I'm not currently active so I suggest if you still have any issues you ask at the Wikipedia:Teahouse or the Wikipedia:Help desk. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:14, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:AFC Helper News

Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

• AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
• The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Request on 13:36:50, 25 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya

• Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Pavan Acharya (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Am. Pavan Acharya famous personality Kannada sandalwood film actor and Telivesion actor I need an article on Wikipedia my draft page I have give to review but it was declined but I don't have any reliable source I have google knowledge panel my name will show in google but for accepting I don't have reliable sources kindly give me some guidelines what all I can give to review for my draft page for success full edits

Thank you Regards Pavan acharya Film ACTOR and TV artist

Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya (talk) 13:36, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

• User:Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya Wikipedia is not a place for people to promote themselves see WP:AUTOBIO. You may think your famous but if their are not reliable sources you probably are not. A google knowledge panel is often just user generated content that I assume you created, as you did with the IMDB page and are trying to here. User generated content is not valid as independent reliable sources. Actually famous people do not have to write about themselves. If you are a successful actor, others will write about you, and if they do someone will probably then create a Wikipedia page. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:37, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Request on 17:39:23, 25 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya

• Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Pavan Sadineni (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Yes but I don't know how to do reliable sources I don't have reliable sources but am famous personality Kannada sandalwood film actor and Telivesion actor I have done more than 13 films and serials but I don't have. My Wikipedia article means how I need an article space so can you do my article biography on Wikipedia even I have google knowledge panel if you google my name it will show in google but I need one Wikipedia article so kindly help to do Wikipedia Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya (talk) 17:39, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

• Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Your "sources" for this submission are a picture and an article that does not mention the subject. KylieTastic (talk) 18:12, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Ashlynn Holleran

Hey, just recently made a draft page for one of my friends, it was meant to be a birthday present and I didn't plan on getting it published so it being denied is totally fine although it ended up getting deleted and I don't have any photos or anything to show for it so it ended up being a waste of time. Is there any way I can get it undeleted or have it just denied but not gone because I really put a lot of work into it and I learned how to write the wikipedia source code for it.

Bradleymad14 (talk) 23:41, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Bradleymad14 sorry but it is unlikely the admin that deleted it would undelete for multiple reasons - however you would have to ask them - see the deleted article Draft:Ashlynn Holleran for the deletion information. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:24, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Request on 10:27:35, 26 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya

• Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Pavan Sadineni (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Namaste I have reliable sources like magzineplus I will send he link Below https://themagazineplus.com/2021/06/25/pavan-acharya-actor-film-actor-tvactor/ This the link of my news article if this Is reliable source if this article is verifieable for my Wikipedia article kindly let me know

Thank you Regards Pavan Acharya Film actor and Telivesion actor

Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya (talk) 10:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

• No Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya it is not a reliable source, it is a copy of a "press release" from issuewire clearly written by yourself again. KylieTastic (talk) 11:22, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Question for Draft for Kashmir Bylines

Hi, we are a media venture. We have been doing journalism for 3 years now. How is some other media company supposed to write on us? We are a very notable media venture in Kashmir (India), currently. Please, accept our page. Thank you. 2409:4054:12:DAE3:F14F:31C2:6DCF:615 (talk) 16:35, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

• Hi, it's simple, if you become notable people will write about you, then people can use those sources to write an article. Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia, not social media or a website for promotion. KylieTastic (talk) 16:48, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@2409:4054:12:DAE3:F14F:31C2:6DCF:615 Hi, I understand. We are not doing it for any promotion (and I don't believe if it would promote us anyway) but just for cataloging our venture in Wikipedia. As a media company, we write about people not the other way around. But if the qualify us to have a Wikipedia page, can you guide us what should be done. Thank you. Attanomy (talk) 06:44, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

• Attanomy sorry but there is nothing you can do - all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So all you can do is grow your business and then if successful someday there will be enough independent reliable sources for someone to create an article. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:35, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@2409:4054:12:DAE3:F14F:31C2:6DCF:615 what are the independent reliable sources in India? Attanomy (talk) 10:02, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

• Attanomy for the full answer see WP:INDY and WP:RS. In general independent just means not linked to or controlled by the subject (such as your own website). Non independent source can be used for facts, such as the editors, but does not help notability. As for reliable sources that is harder but summarise but major news sources, magazines, etc and established websites. Things not to use are user generated sources (wikis, blogs, IMDB etc) or websites that will publish news for a small fee, or ones that just publish press releases. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 16:01, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Question for Draft Nello Petrucci

Hello, I have got my draft refused back in December 2021 as unfrotunately I have made the mistake of uploading the italian version instead of the english once, since then however I have rewrote the text in English and i hope it can be considered now. I would really appreciate any feedback and if there are mistakes that i need to correct. Thank you for your hard work and have a great day! (talk) 12:29, 1 Match 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Estera255 Draft:Nello Petrucci is resubmitted so it will be reviewed by someone at some-point but yet again the backlog has grown to big. To be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next, and I just don't have the time at the moment to be as active as I was. One comment I can make is a couple of sources stand out as not good - firstly IMDB is not a reliable source as it is almost all user-created content see WP:IMDB, also I see a PRNewsWire source and PR is never good for a neutral article. If looks like in both cases these are extra sources, and if the info is covered in others just remove them, if not see if you can replace. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Request for page approval

Hi KylieTastic, I noticed you rejected a page of mine, Draft:William Valdez, for not having enough citations. I was wondering if you could review and potentially approve a new article I wrote, Draft:Jonathan Meyer, since this is cited much better. If you are unable to, I would be appreciative if you could point me in the right direction to receive a speedy review of the draft. Thanks. Govtnerd (talk) 02:36, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Govtnerd firstly Draft:William Valdez was not rejected just declined in it's submitted form. Also it was not for "not having enough citations" but not having enough to show notability. However just being nominated to a position is not notable on it's own so unless they have done more that has been written about they may not be notable. As for the new one to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, there are currently thousands also waiting. Also I'm not editing much these days as too much real-world to deal with. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 10:21, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Request on 18:58:45, 9 March 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Marianampsouza

• Marianampsouza (talk · contribs)
  • User:Marianampsouza/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I need to re-do the list of references and its respective quotations on the text. Also, I need to insert the summary at the beggining of the article. I will try to learn from the editor's manual, so I don't have to bother you with any basic questions. If I do have any problem which I wouldn't be able to solve with the infos on the manual, can I contact you? Thank you for your help! Marianampsouza (talk) 18:58, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Marianampsouza I declined Draft:Process-based therapy back on 23 January 2022‎ as it was blank, it has been changed, re-submitted and reviewed by 4 others since, lastly by Slywriter yesterday. They obviously also made a mistake/typo linking to Extended Evolutionary Meta Model (EEMM) that does not exist, so you may like to ask them what they meant. It's not really my subject area and I'm not editing much at the moment but I do try to answer all questions here. However we have the Wikipedia:Teahouse which is for new editors to ask such questions, especially any general editing questions, and the benefit of asking there is many experienced editors answer questions so you get lots more help that asking an individual. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:26, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Logo

Hi KylieTastic,

I'm trying to upload a logo that I produced onto a new page, similar to the logo of a neighbouring organisation here Porter Brook - Wikipedia, but I keep getting a message 'We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons. Please only upload photos that you took yourself with your camera,'

It is saved as a PNG file which is one of the accepted formats - Can you let me know why I'm unable to upload my own work here. RudHill (talk) 08:47, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hi RudHill Logs are usually copyrighted and this means that unless it falls under the country of origins Threshold of originality - see c:COM:TOO United Kingdom for the commons guidelines for the UK. So even if you make a new one from scratch it is still often in violation. So with many logos they are normally unloaded locally on Wikipedia rather than commons where we can accept some under fair use WP:FAIRUSE. For instance see the RSPB logo File:Royal Society for the Protection of Birds logo.svg that uses the licence template {{Non-free logo|image has rationale=yes|auto=yes}}. However fair use can not be used in draft and must be used so only upload for accepted articles, but then the easiest way it to go to Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard select the second option "Upload a non-free file" and go though the forms. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:23, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks, have done that and managed to get it onto the page. RudHill (talk) 09:50, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia Articles

Hellow,

I just got a mail from your side(Wikipedia) that my article about my self(Biography) has been deleted. It’s okay.

But there’s so many people in my touch who is very popular and famous. You can search there names directly on google and YouTube also but there’s no any types of Wikipedia page or article about them.

Now, if I want to create Wikipedia article or page to help you so, will you please tell me that what should I do???

Thank you. Rajput Kirann (talk) 22:25, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Rajput Kirann I declined the article about yourself, and yes it appears an administrator deleted it as self-promotion a couple of hours later. All articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). For some subjects there are additional notes on what the consensus is for notability - again see Wikipedia:Notability. There are lots of people/companies that self promote a lot, so just because you can find them on google, YouTube, social media does not mean they will be notable enough. However, if you know of a subject that you want to write an article for that others have written about then see Help:Your first article for help. Also there is the Wikipedia:Teahouse that is there for new editors to ask questions when starting out. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 22:41, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Request on 22:21:50, 17 March 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Bmemoret

• Bmemoret (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:The Workshop on Algorithms in Bioinformatics (WABI (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

My entry was rejected for lack of references. I'd like to know if my mistake was being unambitious and writing a minimalist article (just two lines, pointing to the conference's main website for all details). WABI is a yearly academic conference much like ISMB, which (check it out) has a very long Wikipedia entry. Both have been around for over 20 years and both have thousands of citations in the academic literature to the papers presented at the respective conferences. I thought I would just reference the conference's main website, which has links to the various academic sites that held the meetings over the years and to the publishers' sites, which have links to the proceedings, but evidently this was not enough. So my question: should I simply flesh out the article and write a lot more (with suitable references along the way), add the list of past meetings with links to their web pages and links to the proceedings for each year? That's what is in the ISMB wiki article, but I thought it was redundant, as the WABI conference website already does the same job. Obviously, neither conference is much in everyday news, so having an entry in Wikipedia is not for the general public, but a wiki entry is often the first place students will look and I thought WABI should have one for that reason, just as ISMB, RECOMB, and other similar academic conferences. I'll appreciate any advice. Bmemoret (talk) 22:21, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Bmemoret all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia that should inform people, but as stated your submission just gives what we would classify as external links WP:EL for readers to follow after reading the article if interested. If by ISMB you mean Intelligent Systems for Molecular Biology you should ignore the list of conferences, what is more important is the lead section and history section, and most importantly backed by independent reliable sources. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 22:56, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Alexander Key‎

I was just about to do what you did - it took me longer to realize what was going on. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:48, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Bbb23, yup i missed the real situation for a while before realising... I put it on my watchlist for a week. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:54, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

• Heh, so did I. I also removed one section as unsourced, but most of the article is unsourced. So far, other than the short section I removed, I've tagged a much larger section, but if nothing is done soon, I'll take out the obvious WP:OR.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:57, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Request on 15:53:48, 20 March 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Entertainment biographies

• Entertainment biographies (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Elliott Ives (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Entertainment biographies (talk) 15:53, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

• No actual question? All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Start by removing the references that don't even mention the subject. Make sure the references used match the claims in the article. KylieTastic (talk) 16:04, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

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Southeast Toyota Logo

I believe you were a little quick on the draw. Thanks for your attention to this issue, but it was a non-issue. Mgrē@sŏn (Talk) 19:34, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Mgreason, yup sorry I appear to have misread the timestamp on that one! Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:36, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hello, KylieTastic,

I just wanted to say "Thank you!" for all of the tireless work you do, reviewing drafts in Draft space and User sandboxes. Every day, as I post notifications to editors about their stale drafts, I see evidence on their talk pages that you have given their efforts your full attention, no matter what condition they are in and that you consistently communicate with them about the status of their pages. Often, I imagine, you aren't the bearer of good news about draft acceptance but the kindness and respect that you show, often posting Welcome messages along with draft decline notices, is just great. You are frequently their first contact with a more experienced editor and I'm thankful that we have folks in the AFC area who treat new editors as potential contributors, not as potential vandals.

If I could get some new page patrollers to also post a Welcome notice or Teahouse invitation along with their templated warnings, I think we'd be doing even better and integrating new editors into the project but that's a long-term project! Thanks again! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:06, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Liz - Thank you :) KylieTastic (talk) 10:04, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Request on 07:32:38, 27 March 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Julez202

• Julez202 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:UFO Recordz (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hey KylieTastic! Hope all is good and well.. Months ago my first Wikipedia contribution or submission was rejected due to a lck of sources and insufficient information. I have made more than 250 general contributions since, researched, sourced and assisted with multiple projects and pages and would like for you to have a second look at this draft. Any additional feedback or assistance would be very much appreciated. Thank you so much for all you have done for the community so far, very inspiring. Julez202 (talk) 07:32, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Julez202 I see that it has much changed since I last reviewed, however I also see that it has been submitted and declined this morning. You should ask the last reviewer for additional comments if the notice isn't clear. However with just a quick glance many of the sources are the labels own website, and the tiktok link for "BADDIES ONLY" is another example of a very poor source for several reasons: social media is generally an unreliable source; it says no more than linking the band name to the title (no review); and for your case it does not mention UFO Recordz. As HighKing said on the previous review you need an organisation required significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources to show notability - which can be hard for many record labels as people mostly want to write about artists and music and not the label. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:27, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy reply! Gotcha, I'll keep working on it and try to find reliable sources. Wish you an awesome weekend further and will repost back again once I feel I've nailed it. Julez202 (talk) 11:35, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi can you help me with creating this page I'm a beginner and I need some help please

Can you please help me in creating this page and citing this with reliable sources Badassbrahmana (talk) 05:59, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Badassbrahmana all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So not user generated content like Wikis, and more that just passing mentions. Also note that the Wikipedia:Teahouse is also there to help new editors. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:28, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

I would like to ask for advice

Please tell me on how I can improve my article writing with references. You wrote a link for beginners references and I already saw and followed that and so please tell what thing specifically was wrong so I can improve. Thank you for your hard work ! Foodisbest (talk) 15:34, 27 March 2022 (UTC)foodisbest

• Hi Foodisbest all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You have lots of sources but most are passing mentions, basic listing, many links about students with only passing mentions or no mention at all. It also should not be claimed that the world records of individuals are the organisations (unless they are in which case add sources). For instance this does not only not mention "Future Target Institute" or "FTI" but states that she was "Self-taught". Regards KylieTastic (talk) 15:47, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

  Ok, thank you soo much for your advice  ! :) Foodisbest (talk) 09:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Request on 10:09:31, 28 March 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Gianmaria V

• Gianmaria V (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Iveco Group (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I alreday put a RfC on the Iveco talk page and received positive feedback. The reason lies in the fact that the current Iveco page is a mix between the IVECO (capital) brand and the Iveco Group holding. That is why I am suggesting to create a brand new Group page and edit the brand one. Let me know. Gianmaria V (talk) 10:09, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Gianmaria V (talk) 10:09, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Gianmaria V it's find to use the draft space to work on the article pending the RfC. The normal duration for an RfC is 30 days. However it also does not currently have enough independent reliable sources to show independent notability of the group in my opinion and also by action the original draftification. So I would say let the RfC run a bit longer, and look for some more independent sources for the group that have significant coverage. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:12, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

hi

Im confused why you declined my request, can i get a explanation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wsrdevices (talk • contribs) 19:59, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Wsrdevices all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) - You have no sources at all. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:05, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

You rejected page for Simz Singh due to lack of resources please check again !

Hi I just done edit again the article of Simz Singh Punjabi Singer & composer and add some news articles in references and his official website as well please search him on google before decided to decline the page because I do not think he is not notable on internet. Thank you Editor9955 (talk) 09:46, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

• I see it has already been reviewed by another reviewer. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 13:47, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Railroad Page

may i ask what was "incorrect/misleading" about the chicagology source.--ADHD and i hate speedy accusations of bs ChiserYT (talk) 17:47, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hi ChiserYT it was not aimed at the source but the title and website of the cite template. I removed with this edit then fixed up with the next edits. You had, I'm sure completely accidentally, copied the title and website from your first source that was from chicagology to the one from pantagraph. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:52, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

  oh, sorry. i missread the VIEW HISTORY page. more less, i didnt actually check to see if you added it back, I just saw that there was a lower number of bites. Im a bit jumpy to conclusions. So, thanks for catching that. Sorry. ADHD and i hate speedy accusations of bs ChiserYT (talk) 19:59, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hey ChiserYT no worries - text is such a clunky form of communication that often has multiple interpretations. In the end together we make something better, that gives (me at least) a little hope for mankind and the daily existence :) Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:48, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

VideoCult changed the publisher from Adult swim to Akupara games

Hey, the game's developers changed their publisher to Akupara, but I dont know where to look for a proper source, Steam isn't a credible source, is it? Can you help me out a bit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raddaway (talk • contribs) 18:50, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Raddaway for something as basic as a publisher steam would be ok, but a source that says that they swapped from one to the other would be better. Also as originally published by Adult Swim rather than just change and masking the history it would be better to change to originally published by Adult Swim then later published by Akupara. Hope that helps, cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:10, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

• Raddaway I just looked at the akuparagames website https://www.akuparagames.com/game/rain-world/ and it still says published by Adult Swim Games! KylieTastic (talk) 19:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

You made a mistake

On the Noble and Greenough School page you reverted an edit in traditions. I attend the school and it is true and someone keeps removing it from the page. If you could please undo that, it would be greatly appreciated. It is by no means vandalism of any sort. 50.200.185.226 (talk) 17:42, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

• 50.200.185.226 it was unsourced as most of the article is, frankly at least half of the article should be deleted. KylieTastic (talk) 17:47, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

I don't know

hai why article was rejected I don't know why. what is the reason and what is the solution Ansrv (talk) 18:44, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

• Ansrv all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). KylieTastic (talk) 18:45, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

okay tell me solution to launch the article Ansrv (talk) 18:48, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

hello sir tell me the solution to launch the article Ansrv (talk) 18:56, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

• Ansrv as I said all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So you need to find and add any independent reliable sources to your article. KylieTastic (talk) 19:34, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, plus a request

Draft:Acanthobunocephalus_scruggsi is being created by a student of mine in a Biology course; thanks for reviewing it. I suggested that they work out a more complete draft in a sandbox before resubmitting. Their work is due at the end of this week, if you'd care to keep an eye on their next efforts. Thank you. Nice to make your acquaintance. TriNotch (talk)

• Hi TriNotch, welcome back after a very long break. This is something we see a few times a year, but generally is not considered a good idea. Writing an new article for Wikipedia is considered one of the hardest things to start with, with submitters needing to understand notability, neutrality, sourcing, etc. Since your last edits the guidelines and polices (as I understand) have become more strict, especially as we get so so much promotion, spam, vandalism, copyright violations etc these days. I assume from the first submit your student did of 5 words with no sources they had little comprehension of encyclopedic content vs dictionary entry or the current guidelines for notability or sourceing, although I still fail to understand how they would think 5 words was enough, when I'm sure they would never submit written homework that minimalist. Unfortunately AfC is a good idea but fails in practice as we have too few reviewers for submissions, we cleared the backlog last year but its back to > 2700 and 3 months for the longest waits. We have around 250-300 submission a day with less than 200 active reviews most not doing even 1 review a day. So it is a really bad requirement for students with deadlines, unless the instructors/teachers have pre organised reviewers, or best still they are the reviewers. I deal with a lot of species submissions and relatively new species are hard to source as often all sources lead back to the singular original research (case-in-point I, and probably others, am considering what to do with Draft:Fergana stone loach). "Acanthobunocephalus scruggsi" looks possible, but as it does not yet have a wikidata entry I have not checked all the sources. So yes as someone who deals with this topic area I'm likely to review I would reiterate that as the AfC submission process has no time limits and is at up to 3 months at the moment (See Category:AfC pending submissions by age) and has been up to a horrendous 5 months...so we do consider it unfair on students with deadlines. I do hope that made sense, but I am very very tired. I have left a welcome message for your student and a Wikipedia:Teahouse invite to help them, and will work/life allowing keep an eye out. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:52, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, the five word edit was just a start; they had intended to come back and add more piecemeal. It was not intended to be a complete submission and does not reflect their comprehension of Wiki guidelines... excepting the New Article guideline, which was indeed added since I was last an active editor, and which we were clearly ignorant of. The deadline issue is not really a problem since I can see the relevant edits and even in the case of rejection they can submit their written work to me for evaluation - they'll still get the grade, and (hopefully) Wikipedia will get a series of useful additions. These are college biology majors so the quality should be decent even if they struggle with some guidelines. I appreciate the feedback and will do what I can to guide them. TriNotch (talk) TriNotch (talk) 01:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

• TriNotch glad to hear this is for students at that level and your involved and not using acceptance as the pass criteria. We unfortunately have had far too many teachers give students the task to create a Wikipedia article with acceptance as the goal and the teachers don't get involved, leaving students begging us to accept or they'll fail there course. I've put a watch on the draft and will try to keep an eye out. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:43, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

About Ukraine Siren Alerts app

• BOvcharenko With regards to https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Ukraine_Siren_Alerts

I added more sources as requested but I don't understand why you marked it as not notable. New articles are posted almost daily on this application and more cite it constantly so I think it follows notability rules. Let me know about your edits

• Hi BOvcharenko I declined as it only had two main sources (as I missed one of the tweets was not from the subject - my mistake). If "New articles are posted almost daily on this application" then sources will exist, and I see you had added some - thanks. So now that is addressed you can just re-submit (blue button on the decline notice). I'm at work so didn't actually read the new sources, but wanted to answer you quickly so you could get it resubmitted. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:02, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

• BOvcharenko Hi. Thanks for the quick reply. Resubmitted now. Thanks!
• BOvcharenko Hey, any chance you could take a look and let me know if its good?

• Hey BOvcharenko, no need another reviewer has already reviewed and accepted. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:20, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Uzma Beg

The references from reliable sources have been added in the article. Please, accept its publishing. Thanks59.103.216.202 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:45, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

• To be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. KylieTastic (talk) 19:39, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks and apologies: Mie goreng

@KylieTastic: Thank you for repairing my botched DABs at Indonesian noodles and several related pages. Sorry that I broke the images without noticing; I realise where I went wrong and will be more aware from now on. Much appreciated, AukusRuckus (talk) 02:30, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

• Hey AukusRuckus no worries, we all make mistakes. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:01, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

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Need a feedback!

Dubitoergosum22 (talk) 07:01, 14 April 2022 (UTC)Hi! Lately you've declined my draft "Open Minds Institute" because of the lack of sources. The point is that the organization was created just a month ago because of the war in Ukraine so advertisiment and informational development weren't our main points of view. Thus, there is only the official site and The NY Times article now.

Could you please give me any advice on how to solve this issue?

• Hi Dubitoergosum22, all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). The NYT article does not even mention the "Open Minds Institute" just the "Information Strategies Council of Ukraine". So the only way to "solve this issue" is to wait for enough sources to exist. If they hopefully are successful in their aims they will be written about. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:07, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Satanic Bay Area

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You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Satanic Bay Area requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a club, society, or group that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:25, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, KylieTastic,

You received this notice because you moved this article, creating a redirect, that another editor turned into an article. So, Twinkle saw you as the page creator. Hope this explains the notice. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:27, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Willmoore Kendall

Thanks for fixing Mr. Kendall's photo that I uploaded on his Wikipedia page. I, being new to Wikipedia editing, didn't know how to center it without that weird border it had.

SpicyMemes123 (talk) 22:07, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• Hi SpicyMemes123 no worries - there's a lot of these little things to learn.... I'm still learning even after many years :) — Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:58, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi, just wanted to drop by and say thanks for neutering the categories in a draft I made! I'm still getting a hang of things on here and I appreciate your help fixing my errors. Ugh, I hope I stop making mistakes! But I suppose it could be worse... at least I didn't delete the main page. Anyway, thanks for all you do! Crunchydillpickle (talk) 01:44, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Crunchydillpickle no worries - just one of the many little things to learn, and most things are learnt by making mistakes - so don't hope to stop making mistakes and thus learning, but only not to make the same over and over :) — Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:11, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

for page MILO INU

hi, i rechanged the pqge MILO INU, if there any question pls let me know, thx. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucasdefranco (talk • contribs) 14:13, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Lucasdefranco all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:30, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Zoë Belkin

Hello, this is regarding a recent declined {{AFC submission|d|bio|u=Reg.AmPm|ns=118|decliner=KylieTastic|declinets=20220417135714|reason2=v|ts=20220417133513}} This is my first page creation. Could u provide particular suggestion to improve the draft, so it can be published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reg.AmPm (talk • contribs)

• Hi Reg.AmPm all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Your first source does not appear to mention the subject or back up the claim; the second is an interview and from her own university so not independent. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:26, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi thanks for reply. I understood about 1st source. What sources should be valid for actors (apart from imdb , interviews)? Reg.AmPm (talk) 14:29, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

A couple example would be of great help Reg.AmPm (talk) 14:30, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

• Reg.AmPm anything that is independent - so also no wikis or other user generated sources (thus no IMDB) or google knowledge panels. Also avoid social media. Most newspapers/magazines (print or online) or any website that has some editorial standards and/or does independent reviews. Books as well, but probably not many/any for a young actor. Usually such pieces are written once an actor lands a key role. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:43, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

  Hi, I have updated the sources. Could u have a look? Reg.AmPm (talk) 15:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Reg.AmPm thanks for improving the sources and resubmitting, but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:16, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Request on 18:49:29, 17 April 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by DemiDuivenvoorden

• DemiDuivenvoorden (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Nick Bare (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Kylie,

first of all, thanks a lot for helping me and reviewing my drafts, i do really appreciate all of the effort. I have never published a page before and i'm currently a bit lost. I am by no means connected to Nick Bare, he does not even know me. I am a true fan and i was a bit surprised to find out that he does not have a page on Wikipedia yet, since he is a very influential and famous entrepreneur and athlete. As a thank you i am creating this page for him.

I would love to know more about what in specific i should adjust to make the page come live.

Kylie, again, thanks for all your help and im looking forward to your response!

All the best,Demi

DemiDuivenvoorden (talk) 18:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

• Hi DemiDuivenvoorden well you've jumped in with one of the hardest things to do - starting a new article from nothing - so don't be disheartened by a couple of declines. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So things such as YT channels, book listings, interviews, paid promotion etc are not independent reliable sources. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:26, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Shinyodd declined

Would you please tell me what changes I have to make on the Article about Shinyodd?

Greetings from Austria

Peter

• Hi DaewooGamingNK all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You currently have no sources that help notability. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:34, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

War poet

Hi, sorry about the mistake (was just looking at the grammar) - thanks for fixing it. Regards Denisarona (talk) 16:19, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Denisarona no worries, we all make mistakes, but together we get there in the end :) Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:21, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your help!

Thanks for help on the Al Hasan Mosque page. It's my first article. The notes and your edits are helping quite a bit. I've been hitting the little 'thank' link. Now, since I've discovered this new area, I figured I'd drop a line to say 'thanks' again. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teacher Samara (talk • contribs) 10:26, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Teacher Samara happy to help. As a new user if you have any questions, about editing, policies etc do use the Wikipedia:Teahouse. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 10:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

About Draft:How to set up a new page - move to Draft:Archibald Kay?

Hi KylieTastic.

It would appear to me that the intention of the draft article creator was asking how to set up a new page for a Scottish artist of the name Archibald Kay.

I can see that the article Archibald Kay has never been created. The draft asserts that Kay was a member of the Royal Scottish Academy, which would be at the very least an assertion of credible claim of significance.

Major auction houses like Christie's and Bonhams have listed Kay's work for sale.

• Christie's example
• Bomhams example

@KylieTastic and Frederick61: Maybe we could assist the creator of the now drafted article to find reliable sources for verification?. Pete AU aka --10:28, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Shirt58 (talk)

• Hey Shirt58 I have moved it and left them a note. Ideally it should have been moved to that name when moved from their sandbox. Unfortunately as AfC is constantly overloaded and backlogged, generally if an article is unsourced (and does not look like a copy vio, attack page etc) then it gets declined as unsourced and left to the submitter. If the reviewer does notice such things as being probably notable they'll mention in the comment. I always try to leave a welcome and teahouse invite to give new users a bit of encourage to proceed, but some just never come back :/ I dream of the day we have enough reviewers to do full reviewers and actively work on moving notable drafts out to mainspace, but at 200-300 submissions a day and < 50 reviewers reviewing at least one per day it's not even close to functioning how it should. Hopefully either they will come back to it or someone else will pick it up. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:04, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Lena Stamm

Thank you for clarifying things on using IMDb and removing the source for me, I had found conflicting advice about how/if you could use it as a source, but I guess just better safe than sorry and if in doubt, take it out! Didn't mean to rhyme... If there are any other improvements you think I could make so that my page gets published, I would love to hear them. Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daisycat32 (talk • contribs) 10:04, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Daisycat32 as per Wikipedia:Citing IMDb there are very few cases when it can be used, and both when the content is linked back to a reliable sources (Writers Guild of America and Motion Picture Association). I can't remember the last time I saw one of those. Unfortunately people realised anyone can write anything about themselves on IMDB at the same time as the general public do not realise so trust IMDB. You now get lots of people not even vaguely related to film or TV creating a profile there (as well as good knowledge panels, etc) and trying to use them to get onto Wikipedia. In the case of Draft:Lena Stamm her own IMDB page bio here says written by anonymous. Also even when not used for promotion, or just fan written, there are too often mistakes or deliberate errors. We get vandals (fans) editing lists of awards here to incorrect lists of winners, but we have lots of editors working in anti-vandalism, have edit history to check (unlike IMDB), and we require sources (unlike IMDB). So although it started off quite good in general it has become too inaccurate to trust. Also I have seen some reviewers just decline a submission saying IMDB (and others) should be removed first, so I tend to remove myself to help it along. I didn't actually look at the rest as I generally avoid "Biographies of living persons" unless it's an obvious decline. In general (on top of things being well sourced - so you should look at replacements for the IMDB ones) to be notable reviewers look for three good sources (i.e. significant coverage in three+ independent reliable sources). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 10:27, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

  Right, that makes a lot of sense! I guess I fit into the category of general public as I definitely didn't realise how open it was. I assumed that it was at least vaguely checked/regulated/confirmed by independent moderators. I will work on finding replacement sources, and if I can't I will edit that section to reflect the sources I do have. Thanks so much again for the help and information! :) Daisycat32 (talk) 10:49, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Inspired by your work on Wikipedia!

Hi KylieTastic, let me introduce myself, I'm PlainCroissant. I am inspired your work on Wikipedia and would be happy to take you as my mentor! I am new to Wikipedia (this is actually my first edit here at your talk page) - so I'd love to get some advice from a more experienced editor regarding what can I do to benefit the community :) Going forward, I am interested in creating articles mainly in the niche of biography of living people (BLP) as well as music related topics. Would appreciate if I can ask a few questions:

- How do I decorate my user page like most of the experienced editors? - How do I customise my signature? - Will it be possible to earn money/make a living through Wikipedia as an editor, article creator, etc..

Do get back anytime, thanks! I wish you have a good day.

Cheers, PlainCroissant (talk) 15:13, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

• Welcome to Wikipedia PlainCroissant sorry but I do not act as a mentor - if you wish to find a mentor see Wikipedia:Mentorship and Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user/Adoptee's Area. Also on top of any mentorship new users are encouraged to ask for help at the Wikipedia:Teahouse (I left an invite on your talkpage as well). As for the questions:

• For your user page see Wikipedia:User pages for the full answer, but many start by taking ideas from others user pages and you can search for userboxes at Wikipedia:Userboxes
• For customising your signature see WP:CUSTOMSIG
• Lastly and most importantly on earning money.... simple answer NO!. See WP:PAID but 99.999% of us are pure volunteers and many, if not most, have a very negative view of paid editors as usually they don't adhere to policies (notability and neutrality being main issues) and often expect the volunteers to help them get paid. Wikimedia does not pay anyone to edit so the only money is from those who want to use Wikipedia to promote rather than write Encyclopedic content.

Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:13, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Hey KylieTastic thanks for getting back! Your explanation is concise and clear - it helped me :) Looking forward to see what I can do on Wikipedia and will reach out to you again if I need further assistance. Have a good day ahead! PlainCroissant (talk) 11:13, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft - Dune Drifter

To Kylie Tastic or anyone else. I am a novice drafter on Wikipedia. So let me know if there is anything I need to correct on my Dune Drifter article, and how? Also, I received error messages when I tried to download a JPEG image of a scanned image which I had Snipped to cut out the image that I wanted to save. Should I try using an actual JPEG photograph instead? And how should I entitle the image that is acceptable to the system? So far, I am not able to download an image of the DVD cover for the film. From Patrick Lee, United Kingdom. 24 April 2022. patrick21london — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrick21london (talk • contribs) 19:54, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Patrick21london all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) - however for films see Wikipedia:Notability (films). Note when you asked this question it had not been reviewed, so was just waiting, and unfortunately their is a big backlog as there are more submissions than volunteer reviewers. Sorry I don't understand the problem re the image, if you crop and image it could still be a jpeg, however Wikipedia accepts a wide range of formats. Note for copyrighted images such as DVD covers you cannot upload images to out sister project Wikimedia Commons so you have to use the second option at Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard to "Upload a non-free file" and use the "This is a copyrighted, non-free work, but I believe it is Fair Use." option (the image cannot be high res). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Nathan Victory

I am wondering why you didn't nominate Draft:Nathan Victory for deletion, as I just did, rather than simply rejecting it, as you did. —Anomalocaris (talk) 08:39, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Anomalocaris When I saw you had sent to MfD I was going to say that I tend in general to have a higher tolerance to junk in Draft than many and deletion discussions can be a time-sink so unless an article is being tediously resubmitted I tend to leave for G13 to tidy up. However in this case looking again I probably just got distracted as it should have been G11 speedy delete. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:15, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Ruellia affinis

Hi @KylieTastic:, I am sorry for my recent AFC action at Ruellia affinis as when I am accepting this draft at that time I don't see any under review mark on that submission but when I clicked the accept and publishing button your under review mark was just appeared. So, I have no any option to go back as I reviewed this draft. Please consider action and again sorry for that. Fade258 (talk) 08:40, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Fade258 no worries edit conflicts happen, if someone has opened a submitted draft before it is taken off the list by marking as under review this sort of thing will happen. I only marked as I was going to accept but wasn't sure about the "The species is part of the Red List of Threatened Species" claim. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:45, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Famigo Wiki

Hi KylieTastic, I hope you are well.

I created an updated version of Famigo and inadvertently, not intentionally at all, it was deemed vandalism and understandably, taken down.

You and other editors reverted changes to the FAMIGO page found here: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Famigo. I am from Famigo.com and was wondering if we could transition this page from relating to an old, defunct business, to the changes found here: https://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Famigo&oldid=1046019315 (or a variation). No matter how we try to optimize our SEO, this old not active history continue to impact our search. I am one of the Famigo engineers and I am familiar with Wiki but I am not an editor and would appreciate very much the guidance.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bossming (talk • contribs) 23:19, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Bossming as you have said you work for Famigo see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and noting WP:DISCLOSE which as pointed out on your talk page is mandatory. Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia not a place for companies to promote themselves and old subjects are not removed just because someone wanted to use the name. If your company is notable then the correct way to proceed is to write and submit a draft. I see that their was a draft Draft:Famigo (Arizona company) that was declined twice as "more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia", and then deleted as it was abandoned for over six months. Note that to be 'notable' in Wikipedia terms is set out in Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) but in general this requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Also the article should not be promotional and well sourced. If your company is or become notable and an article exists then it could be valid to swap article names so yours was the primary and the existing moved to Famigo (Texas company), or Famigo could be turned into a disambiguation page pointing to both. However the key to all options is to get an acceptable, non promotional, article accepted (and WP:DISCLOSE). So the question to ask is are their 3+ independent reliable sources with significant coverage about your company to show notability. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:27, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks for your guidance.

  I can update the metadata to be more clear and remove any potential conflicting comment or advertisement looking comment. Also, would keeping a section about the old famigo company within the new famigo wiki be a possibility? We would be fine with that as well given that the old famigo keep taking our SEO down and even when clicking google info ellipsis it pulls info about the old company.

  There are many reliable sources and TV programs with our CEO and team about famigo.

  Can I update the info without publishing it for your review and guidance? Bossming (talk) 23:33, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

  Kylie, sorry to bother with this second message, I changed the info slightly on this version. Would this be reasonable? (I published it for a split second by accident but I reversed it right away.)

  https://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Famigo&oldid=1086887885

  Also, there is a comment at Talk:Famigo about close status of previous famigo.

  Thank you for your help Bossming (talk) 00:42, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Bossming sorry long day.... time for just a quick answer.. but basically the same as before. All 'paid editing' which includes editing about a company you are employed by must be disclosed - per Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure any more Conflict of interest edits without a declaration is liable for an admin to block your account. So do this first - see WP:DISCLOSE. Secondly as before the only correct way to proceed is with a separate article to first show notability in a neutral encyclopedic way. If that is achieved their are options that could end up with the new article at Famigo or that page being a disambiguation page pointing to both (in case that is not clear like Richard Samuels points to three articles none of which has enough dominance to justify being the primary - I picked that as I work on one of those yesterday). You should continue to work on Draft:Famigo (Arizona company) either by recovering the deleted version via WP:REFUND or just start again from scratch or copy from the historical version of Famigo. If your company is notable in Wikipedia terms that is the only way to go with your Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and other issues can be addressed afterwards, if not notable then leave it until your company is notable. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 21:21, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oh and if you want other opinions try asking at the Wikipedia:Teahouse where lots of experienced editors and admins assist new editors. KylieTastic (talk) 21:35, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Allison Lee Graham

If this page is moved to article space again, please do not move it to draft space a third time. I would prefer that pages not be moved to draft space a second time. Repeatedly moving a page to draft space is move-warring, even if the page doesn't belong in article space. I was about to write an AFD for it before you draftified it again. If it is moved into article space again, please either send it to AFD or let me send it to AFD. By the way, I have made a conflict of interest inquiry of the author. I think it is an autobiography. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:52, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Robert McClenon I agree in general as I do not agree with moving back to draft more than once usually, but as it appears to be a new editor with a COI I was giving them an extra chance, but like you I would AfD or even CSD if they do it again. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:57, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

As you said, she's a new editor. Now that most of the substance has been removed, I agree that it might even be A7, but I am willing to AFD it. Let's see what happens next. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:01, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

man on 1 fps

please let me have my article up just for a day. I want to show it to Kyle and Ian just so they can stop — Preceding unsigned comment added by Man on 1 fps (talk • contribs) 15:35, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

• No - find another place to play. KylieTastic (talk) 15:52, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

barista sharifi

This article has been deleted for no reason 🙏🙏 Iamtheboss.t (talk) 09:35, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• No Iamtheboss.t is has been proposed for deletion as it does not meet the requirements. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:37, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

New Page Review queue March 2022

Hello KylieTastic,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 810 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 848 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.

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Help me

Please KylieTastic, i saw your edit on this page Vict0ny, Please help on this too Draft:Philkeyz (singer), i will be grateful Celeboyz (talk) 17:08, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Celeboyz they were just minor maintenance edits, not an indication of an interest in Nigerian music. Ask for advice from the editor who moved the article to draft and/or ask for help from those who make substantial edits to such articles, like the creator of Vict0ny. You could also seek interested editors on associated wikiprojects like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Nigeria. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 17:45, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Request on 10:44:10, 25 May 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Demonelevn

• Demonelevn (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Bandwagon Music (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Demonelevn (talk) 10:44, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi there, so my article has been rejected. I would love some assistance as I believe that a page on Bandwagon Music Ltd. is really important even if just as a footnote in British indie music of the 00s. This was a functioning music publishing company and record label from 2000 - 2012. I tried to add the reference www.companieslist.co.uk/04073047-bandwagon-music-limited as some kind of validation. I am curious what criteria does Wikipedia needs to list a small independant music label? Is it market share? How famous an artist is? Bandwagon Music and Bandwagon Records were also part of AIM (Association of Independent Music) in its early years //en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Association_of_Independent_Music#:~:text=The%20Association%20of%20Independent%20Music,self%2Dreleasing%20artists%20and%20distributors.. Bandwagon Music's artists are still very much active with music released on streaming services such as Spotify etc. See e.g. John Henderson //open.spotify.com/artist/4WqE1cyJ32xzklLdMEL6EE?si=cVuVoz6UROyFOzXonNorqQ

Any help would be greatly appreciated :) Jube

• Hi Demonelevn your submission Draft:Bandwagon Music was unsourced. It is not just existence such as companieslist.co.uk/04073047-bandwagon-music-limited shows (and that is a blacklisted source. Not that it helps notability but the same info can be found direct https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04073047). There are huge number of registered companies and most are not notable. Also notability is not inherited so it does not matter how famous or not artists on a label are. Basically all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Currently you have no sources at all let alone any that talk about the subject in depth. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 11:22, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Fair enough.

Jube 85.210.140.111 (talk) 14:06, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Euguen Leon - Seeking some help and guidence

Hello Kylie

Hope this message finds you well. I would love to get some guidance and show me where/how I can go about publishing my wiki page (Euguen Leon). My show was just released May 23rd 2020 (Ghost in the Shell: SAC_2045) as Kukushkin. Although this is my most notable role, I have been in films for over 10 years appearing in shows like Brooklynn Nine Nine and films like 5 Flights Up with actors Morgan Freeman and Diane Keaton.

Its important for me to learn and see what I can do to promote my show and me as an actor. If you have a chance to get back to me I would greatly appreciate it.

feel free to email me if needed gsheb@yahoo.com

Best Euguen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8803:760D:4700:3D0C:2005:11C6:DFEA (talk) 03:02, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

• Hi, firstly by your question you are writing about yourself which is strongly discouraged - see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. As for the article all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Also see WP:NACTOR for notes on actors. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:53, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Minecraft Speedrunning ‎

Hello KylieTastic, I would like to have my page about Minecraft speedrunning published but it cant be published, can you help me with the situation? Thanks, Anonamysis user — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thespeedrunnergod2077 (talk • contribs) 14:20, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Thespeedrunnergod2077 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). User:Thespeedrunnergod2077/sandbox/Minecraft Speedrunning has no sources at all and the external links are not suitable: a non specific google search and a single video example. Note that List_of_video_games_notable_for_speedrunning#Minecraft so a new article would not only have to show notability but be significantly larger than the existing section to justify a split from that article. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:28, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

  Ok thanks I will work on this. Thespeedrunnergod2077 (talk) 18:19, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

User Talk page headers

Hey, KylieTastic,

I know I've bugged you about this before but it would be great if you put the header at the top of the User talk page. Today, I moved around 10 or 12 talk page headers to the top of the talk page but it just looked odd to have them in the middle of the page. This stopped happening for quite a while but now I'm looking at drafts from November and I'm seeing it again. Maybe it's the timing of the messages you leave but I haven't run into this with other AFC reviewers. It might be because you also leave Welcome messages which, unfortunately, isn't that common among AFC reviewers. Any way, sorry to post about this again but I'm running into a lot recently so I thought I'd let you know. Thanks for all of the good work you do!

Make that 20 times I've moved the talk header around on the page. Sorry I forgot my signature earlier. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:54, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liz, you did mention this before in December 2021 but unfortunately I do not have a time-machine to change the order for November ;) — Also note I raised this and it got changed in Twinkle see #1494 although that fix did not get into the public release till Feb 2022. I was mostly doing it manually after your last message so when you reach mid December it should be less often. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:41, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you so much for reviewing my article, I'll try to make the changes you recommended and make it more suitable for Wikipedia Dr. Rayaheen Al Issa (talk) 16:56, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Talk

Your words may be true about my article that you deleted, but you must do yourself a search for it and find reliable sources to expand together in building a good Wikipedia community, so I ask you to help me write this first article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alkubisai (talk • contribs) 12:41, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

• Alkubisai no article has been deleted but Draft:Abdullah Alkubaisi has been declined as the sources appear to be self promotion/ made up. You claim 11 albums just this year, but your deezer link shows you mean 1 album and that was dated today - so just promotion. Your IMDB page shows why IMDB is a joke these days as they allow you to claim you where the star of "Christmas with the Vienna Boys Choir"that was filmed in 1995 when you were born 2002. Then this "source" claims your main works were when you were about one year old and in "The head" in 1977! IMDB may allow people to write junk about themselves but Wikipedia does not. KylieTastic (talk) 14:14, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

  @KylieTastic I feel that you think that I am writing about myself, so you are wrong. I am writing about a famous person in my country, Iraq I know that and that is why I did not mention the series and films in which he participated, because I need your help to add the correct information only, and you have to help me with that. I think that this is your duty Alkubisai (talk) 16:02, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

• Yes Alkubisai I do think you're writing about yourself. Sorry but if they are "famous" then I assume there will be articles written on websites and newspapers about them. I cannot help you correct the bad information on IMDB that has them spread to other sources. If they (you) were famous they would have more than 1 monthly listener on spotify [7], move than 19 followers on twitter [8]. Oh and here they are a web developer but then that also looks like lies - born 2002 started work 2010. As for the last part - no it is not my duty - all editors are volunteers and have no duty to make any edits. If you have any further questions then please ask at the Wikipedia:Teahouse instead. KylieTastic (talk) 16:28, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

  @KylieTastic But he has 95,000 followers on Facebook and has more than 4,000 followers on Instagram And when you use his music on Instagram or Facebook, he will show you his profile linked to his albums when you click on the music picture, I know it's not your job but I'm asking you as my brother's request to help me create this saying because I'm one of his biggest fans Alkubisai (talk) 17:06, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Kudos!

Hi, thanks for moving the review notice. It made my draft look cleaner. Tommy Turnbull (talk) 13:09, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you!!

Thank you very much KylieTastic for editing the draft page, I’m kind of new to Wikipedia so I’m trying my best in my own way. I hope I have provided enough information, citations, 3rd party references to publish this page.

Thank you very much for your help & please let me know if there’s anything else to add or delete etc to make this suitable for publishing by a Wikipedian user.

Many thanks Kylie WikipedianSourcer1986 (talk) 18:49, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Talk article

I didn't add the article, I just translated it from French to English. It's originally posted on the French Wikipedia, so I thought it was worth adding, and I insist on that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alkubisai (talk • contribs) 15:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

• Alkubisai different language Wikipedias have different guidelines - here all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). KylieTastic (talk) 15:23, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

References

The references I used for my article on a smaller musician was not accepted for not being reliable but I was able to confirm with the person that these were reliable and I personally asked questions for the article. How can i go about getting it accepted and siting that i contacted them — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madison 00 00 (talk • contribs) 16:32, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Madison 00 00 you miss-understand the purpose of Wikipedia - it is not a platform for people to publish what they say about themselves. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). For this type of subject also see WP:MUSICBIO. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 16:41, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

  The info i got from them isn't just what they want to say about themselves though, I just asked them questions about themselves that any other article would include. Madison 00 00 (talk) 17:10, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

  Hi Madison 00 00 it's still what they choose to say and more importantly it's unsourced. Assuming that you are being 100% truthful, that unfortunately is not true for all - Wikipedia requires actual sources not just a unknown editor claiming they did an interview and the subject was truthful. If you could see the level of vandalism and rampant self-promotion we get each day you would probably be shocked (I've been doing this for years and still don't comprehend some peoples actions here). In general interviews are not deemed independent reliable sources (see the essay (not policy) Wikipedia:Interviews). It may just be WP:TOOSOON and if they are successful, people will write about them and then someone will write an article, but if the sources do not yet exist then the article is not acceptable. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 17:20, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

  So other than information directly from him and interviews what kind of sources are allowed Madison 00 00 (talk) 17:23, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

  Madison 00 00 for the full answer see Wikipedia:Reliable sources but in general anything not user generated (IMDB, Wikis etc) and written by someone independent. For instance most newspapers, magazines, books (not self-published), non personal websites (there are a lot of music related websites). Also see WP:MUSICBIO for the extra criteria that help notability, although usually if an artist does those you'll also get written about a lot. KylieTastic (talk) 17:29, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

  ok, thank you very much for your help and clarification. Madison 00 00 (talk) 17:38, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Assistance: St. Andrew's Draft

KylieTastic How can I proceed in this regard. I am in the Principal of the College (https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:St._Andrew%27s_College_(Saskatoon,_CAN)) and trying to create a page using existing content to which I am authorised to use. Do you have wisdom how to proceed without deletion? Fionavar (talk) 17:53, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Fionavar I see your getting the hang of things, luckily I still had a watch on your page from when I placed the welcome so I had just answered there. Although I did fail to add that as at the moment it is pure copyright violation it will be deleted as Wikimedia is very hot on legal issues. You may wish to grab a copy of the infobox, which is the only non-direct copy, to save you time if your choose to recreate. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:13, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

  KylieTastic I am okay losing the draft - but how do I avoid the copyright concern if I actually have right to use? Fionavar (talk) 18:21, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

  Fionavar see my answer on your talk page - but basically see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for donating but you will also need other independent sources to show notability - all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). As you have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest I would suggest keeping it as minimal and pure factual as possible. The reason we strongly discourage COI editing as people fail to be neutral and encyclopedic. Keep it simple and factual and any interested readers with follow links in the External links section to your own website. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:29, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

  KylieTastic I will likely look for a service/editor to help in this regard. How do I get a copy of the infobox. thanks for your time! Fionavar (talk) 18:37, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

  Fionavar you could approach the associated Wikiprojects to see it someone is interested in assisting (Wikipedia:WikiProject Education & Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity). As you the infobox you can just copy it from the existing article before it is deleted, but I'll grab a copy just in case and dump in your sandbox (User:Fionavar/sandbox also linked from the top menu). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:46, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

About Biography of Rashmi Agdekar

Hi KylieTastic,

I Yesterday made a biography page for Rashmi agdekar with all data available to me.

Mostly from youtube and Imdb.

She is a great Actress and good Instagram Influencer.

Yesterday you reviewed my work in Wikipedia.

I would correct my Citations and References about this topic.

Thank you for your Guidance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CelebCrushIndian (talk • contribs) 04:07, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

• Hi CelebCrushIndian all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). IMDB is not a reliable source as it is user-generated (see WP:IMDB)... just this week I came across someone trying to promote themselves here and had managed to add themselves to over 60 productions on IMDB including ones filmed before they were born. You also cannot use people own social media as that is not independent. Wikis including Wikipedia are also user generated so cannot be used and any sources they have should be used directly. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:33, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Nostalgia Film 2022

Hi, it has been a while since I contributed to wikipedia. But the film has nationwide distirbution in france and italy and is made by well known people. It also has massive news coverage. So I think it is definitely relevant. It also has articles in french, italian and german: https://de.wiki.x.io/wiki/Nostalgia_(2022) Could you take a second look? Thanks in advance! Newme (talk) 10:34, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Newme is it actually released in France and Italy yet, it's unclear as recently shown at Cannes and the source says "The Italian release will be handled by Medusa while France’s Arp Seléction will distribute the film in France" which makes it sound like a future event. See Wikipedia:Notability (films) for how films are judged. I would guess the film is (or will be) notable but just needs a couple more sources, preferable one that shows it is actually in distribution (unfortunately we can't use IMDB as that has become so polluted with misinformation, opinions and rumours) and then one or two more reviews. See if you can find any additions sources and then add and resubmit. Note they do not need to be in English. I've just looked at the linked German version and this suggests its not released in France till November 23, 2022; My virus scanner blocks the medusa.it source; Indirectly I found this review. You can also check the sources fromm it:Nostalgia (film 2022) and fr:Nostalgia (film, 2022). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:57, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Why did you decline my draft bio? How can we fix it? Please advise.

How can we fix it? Please advise.

Regards,

Brian Matthew Sheridan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmansheridan (talk • contribs) 15:18, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I've deleted your bio. If you recreate it or otherwise promote yourself on Wikipedia, you risk being blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Bmansheridan Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia not a place for people to write about themselves and definitely not for publishing what looks like your Curriculum vitae. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 15:21, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

  Bio then explain to me why others have bio online about themselves? Bmansheridan (talk) 15:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

  example https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Michael_Keaton and many others? I am on the wrong wiki? Bmansheridan (talk) 15:24, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

  Bmansheridan people have Encyclopedic articles written about them, not post Curriculum vitaes and what their hobbies are. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So Michael Keaton is about a well known actor and it is referenced with sources that independent]] people have writen about them. KylieTastic (talk) 15:28, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

  Curriculum vitaes would you suggest I publish there? Bmansheridan (talk) 15:30, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

  Bmansheridan I don't know where people publish their Curriculum vitaes or write about themselves. I guess some do on social media especially LinkedIn. There are also other Wikis that allow people to write about themselves - try googling. KylieTastic (talk) 15:36, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

  Ok thank you for the input. Bmansheridan (talk) 15:46, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Editing - https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Glorium_Technologies

Hello! Tell me how to fix the publication and what sources to indicate. Forbes, INC not enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.238.106.26 (talk) 12:38, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

• Hi 85.238.106.26 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). The inc.com is just a listing; the forbes and fastcompany are post by the CEO not independent or significant coverage about the company; the entrepreneur.com is just a listing for the CEO again not about the company. Hope that explains. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 13:34, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	Thank you for cleaning up Wikipedia! I made an article and i hope you will accept it! I am giving this to you. Jackson Dormio (talk) 16:38, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Request on 11:10:57, 9 June 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Alainmartins

• Alainmartins (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Ros Officiel (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

publish my article Alainmartins (talk) 11:10, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

• It is resubmitted for review and will be reviewed but there is a backlog so may be reviewed soon or take some time. For subjects like this we look at the guidelines WP:MUSICBIO and WP:BIO. KylieTastic (talk) 15:05, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

plz review my article and publish Alainmartins (talk) 08:13, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

• Sorry but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. KylieTastic (talk) 09:42, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

  it is possible within 3days Alainmartins (talk) 19:59, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

reliable sources are listed at the site which is published

reliable sources are listed at the site which is published in the article: at https://kopystiansky.tumblr.com/ with links to major museums including: tate Modern:https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/kopystiansky-incidents-t12607 https://www.moma.org/collection/works/131030?classifications=any&date_begin=Pre-1850&date_end=2019&locale=en&page=1&q=kopystiansky&with_images=1 https://www.metmuseum.org/search-results?q=kopystiansky etc. at:

Works by Igor and Svetlana Kopystiansky are represented in permanent collections of the Museum of Modern Art, Metropolitan Museum and Whitney Museum of American Art in New York, Art Institute of Chicago, Museum of Fine Arts, Houston, Smithsonian American Art Museum, Washington D.C.; Henry Art Gallery in Seattle; Zimmerli Art Museum, Rutgers University, New Jersey; Musée National d'Art Moderne Center Pompidou, Paris; Musée d'Art Moderne de Saint-Etienne Métropole, France; Tate Modern, London; Art Gallery of New South Wales, Sydney; Museo Nacional Reina Sofia; Folkwang Museum in Essen; Ludwig Forum for International Art, Aachen; Berlinische Galerie; Museum für Moderne Kunst, Frankfurt am Main; MUMOK Vienna, Austria; Centre for Contemporary Art Luigi Pecci, Prato, Italy; Frac Corsica, France; MOCAK, Museum of Contemporary Art Krakow, Poland; Muzeum Sztuki Lodz, Poland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.91.243.66 (talk) 14:38, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

• 95.91.243.66 add sources to the article and re-submit not here. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:42, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Marraban Bin yauri

I've sent it to AFD rather than back to draft space again. Maybe there ought to be some other way of dealing with articles by editors who don't know enough English to be editing the English Wikipedia. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:47, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

• Robert McClenon I agree can't really send back to draft but really not suitable for main space. Sources may exist so may survive AfD and hopefully someone improves it if it does. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
  • If someone can find sources they should also rewrite it in comprehensible English. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:46, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
  • There are some editors who really should be working on the Wikipedia in their first language. The English Wikipedia already has more than enough crud. (Maybe it wouldn't be crud if it were properly written in another language.) Robert McClenon (talk) 16:46, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

What needs to be improved

Hello my page was declined, how can I make sure that the page is reviewed 2607:FEA8:101F:6500:1C0F:6833:3D59:4887 (talk) 20:16, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

• What page? This is your first and only edit! KylieTastic (talk) 20:17, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
• But in general all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). If those sources exist, add them and re-submit. KylieTastic (talk) 20:19, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-24

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Recent changes

• All wikis can now use Kartographer maps. Kartographer maps now also work on pages with pending changes. [9][10]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 June. It will be on all wikis from 16 June (calendar).
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16:57, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Ashfaque Nabi

hi, need your kind help in creation of article on Ashfaque Nabi Dcmpedia (talk) 14:05, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Dcmpedia all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). However if elected to high positions that helps notability see WP:NPOV. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

  hello, can you please review my article now. Dcmpedia (talk) 14:51, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

ok, I'll add more refrences ,thank you Dcmpedia (talk) 15:01, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

hi, can you please have a look at my draft, so that it can be moved to article page Dcmpedia (talk) 16:17, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

• Dcmpedia to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. It's not submitted at the moment. However mid-day.com is BrandMedia so just self promotion and pure WP:PUFF; tribuneindia.com is also brand content created today again self promotional pure WP:PUFF; indiasentinel.co.in is not labelled as paid promotion but still reads like it. Also I see from the 'sources' he (I suspect maybe you) runs Digital Circle Media aka linked to your name. So you appear to have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest that you have not disclosed. Wikipedia is not for promotion. KylieTastic (talk) 18:28, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

thank you, your valuable feedback appreciated Dcmpedia (talk) 18:32, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

does it need to be mentioned or to take permission to write about someone you know? Dcmpedia (talk) 18:44, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

if this article needs to be re-written , it needs to be mentioned initially that it is about a person you know? Dcmpedia (talk) 18:47, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

• Dcmpedia see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and WP:DISCLOSE. However even when writing about "a person you know" it should have a Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and have independent reliable sources not paid for promotion. KylieTastic (talk) 18:50, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

"Amman" Apartments

Hello,

I assume you want your pages to be accurate and I assume you know that for most users, myself included, your disclaimers about availability also apply. I was under the impression that Wikipedia was collaborative.

Here is the link to the Spokane City/County Historic Preservation Office webpage for the Ammann Apartments with the correct spelling: https://properties.historicspokane.org/property/?PropertyID=2146

Please let me know what it takes to correct the inaccuracy.

Kevin — Preceding unsigned comment added by CAL99201 (talk • contribs) 23:45, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

• Hi CAL99201/Kevin, the reason why the edits were reverted is Wikipedia requires sources not assertions and the linked NRHP record says Amman. Also note you broke the image changing the filename making it more like vandalism. Sometimes people do this sort of thing just because that's how they spell there own name, but your post here shows that's not your reason and the edits were in good faith. It appears that the "Spokane Historic Preservation Office" has changed its mind as the original record was one n see this. Also they link a pdf this that has old documents (page 19) that use one n, however also lots of others that use two. So what need doing is digging out the history expanding the article to explain the issue, fixing the sources, and then either move to a title of two n's or put that as a redirect. I'm at work now but I'll try to look tonight. So thanks for trying to fix just remember to use actual sources and don't 'fix' filenames and urls etc. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:27, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks for your response, KylieTastic. You're right, the building and family name were misspelled throughout the National Register nomination which was before my time in Spokane and I hadn't seen it. Thank you for that.

  It's a slog, but "History of the City of Spokane and Spokane County, Washington: From Its Earliest Settlement to the Present Time," by Nelson Wayne Durham, published in 1912, is searchable online with several mentions of the Ammanns, particularly pages 669-670 about Charles E. Ammann, the "Charles E. Amman" of the National Register nomination. If the link works, Charles is covered here: History of the City of Spokane and Spokane County, Washington: From Its ... - Nelson Wayne Durham - Google Books

  I apologize for any vandalism which was a result of my ineptitude rather than malice and thank you for your patience. CAL99201 (talk) 15:17, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

  Hey CAL99201, I'm so tired from a bad day I'm going to postpone looking at this tonight (real life issues), but I wont forget. More important it was not vandalism, just without context/source looked like possible vandalism - huge difference... People who deliberately vandalise can just move on, but those with good intent we hope will stay and improve things. Wikipedia is only what it is because those who wish to improve outnumber those that don't. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:04, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

  Get some rest, KylieTastic. Thank you for your work. 2601:602:CD01:2B00:84EA:61BD:B67B:5EEB (talk) 04:33, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

AfC Draft: Van Snyder (DJ)

Hello. How can I make sure that the Draft: Van Snyder (DJ) https://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Draft:Van_Snyder_(DJ) gets reviewed by anybody soon? Waiting for over 2 weeks for a decision. thanks --Base-X (talk) 12:57, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Base-X unfortunately there is not really any way speed things up. The process relies on volunteers and there are just not enough for the number of submissions. The most important thing is to make sure you have the sources to show that they pass WP:MUSICBIO or BIO. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 13:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Ross Michaels (Draft) Declined Question

Hi KylieTastic,

Thanks for reviewing the page I made for Ross Michaels. You declined it, and I was wondering if you could point me to any guideline for creating a good wiki page for an artist manager (which Michaels is), or what kind of sources might help the article pass.

Best, Swillard23 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swillard23 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Swillard23 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). In this case Wikipedia:Notability (people) is the guidelines we use. At the moment your first source is primary (not independent); the second I have no access to so can't judge; the next is just a music video; the last two appear to be interviews so again not independent. Hope that helps you understand the decline and requirements. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:50, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

New Page Review queue June 2022

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Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

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Drafts

Check Will Mannings Aswell: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Will_Manning thanks Sean23455 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean23455 (talk • contribs) 16:12, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Hopefully Aimees is better now: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Aimee_Vivian thanks Sean23455 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean23455 (talk • contribs) 16:12, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

• Sean23455 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS).. Both of these only have a single source that is also primary so not independent. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 16:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-26

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• Wikimedia Enterprise API service now has self-service accounts with free on-demand requests and monthly snapshots (API documentation). Community access via database dumps & Wikimedia Cloud Services continues.
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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 June. It will be on all wikis from 30 June (calendar).
• Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 28 June at 06:00 UTC (targeted wikis). [15]
• Some global and cross-wiki services will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 30 June at 06:00 UTC. This will impact ContentTranslation, Echo, StructuredDiscussions, Growth experiments and a few more services. [16]
• Users will be able to sort columns within sortable tables in the mobile skin. [17]

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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!

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(t · c) buidhe 20:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Good work

	Good editor
	You have expanded numerous stubs to excellent articles. Please keep up the excellent work History Buff1239ubj (talk) 17:41, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Nice catch.

Guess I should learn to write regex a little better, huh? ;) Good looking out. jp×g 16:30, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hey JPxG there are a lot of ways to include an image so any regex would have to be rather complex :/ no wonder these things happen. I often fix these types of issue as they come up in CAT:MISSFILE. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:56, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello!

I just wanted to drop in and say thanks for being a great person! :) You helped me get my draft finished once, and I've had your page on my watchlist since. I see all the work you do, so I wanted to just tell you :) Thanks for your kindness also! My apologies if this was an annoying/unnecessary message that clutters your talk page. Wish you a great day! Kind regards. Euor (talk) 19:17, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Euor, thank you! With all the negative issues in the world at large and unfortunately a mounting number of personal issue this was a very welcome bit of positivity. Thanks again KylieTastic (talk) 19:39, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes there is much bad stuff, and I am sorry to hear about your personal ones. I have come to the conclusion that its worth it to share positivity and good words to do our part in making it better, that's why I just wanted to send you a message to make you know you are appreciated and loved. I pray it gets better soon for you friend.--Euor (talk) 21:18, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Draft:X=Prem

Hi! You reviewed the AfC submission for this article back in March. Since then the film got released widely, and had reviews in newspapers/websites. Would you mind having a quick look? Thanks! Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:17, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Dwaipayanc sorry I'm currently on a break from much editing due to real-life issues. I've checked that it is submitted so it will be reviewed in due time. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:26, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Thanks! --Dwaipayan (talk) 20:29, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Team saath

Dear sir,

Why deleted team saath page. Please solve this problem sir please help Realjeeshan (talk) 02:48, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

• Realjeeshan Draft:Team Saath is not deleted. Note all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). KylieTastic (talk) 07:59, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Google maps isn’t a valid response for that.

For Draft:El Cubano, Cuba google maps isn’t a good source. Especially for Cuba since if you look at OSM and then look at google maps you’ll see a lot of stuff messing. Also if that’s your reason Canoa, Cuba should also be a draft (which it was removed from proposed deletion) CubanoBoi (talk) 13:12, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• CubanoBoi yes google maps is not a good source in general but using it for the satellite image to show that there are just a couple of buildings and no sign of a "small town" means the claim appears dubious. openstreetmap is even worse source as it is user generated, and the other sources are not good. Per WP:GEOLAND you need a source to show a place is or was a "Populated, legally recognized place". Canoa, Cuba is also lacking the required sources and could be draftified - but at least the satellite images show a few more buildings so it's possible but calling it a "small town" is dubious, look more like a small village or hamlet. What you should look for are any official sources to show these are legally recognized places. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:01, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

  Most of the road is also a part of El Cubano. At 22°32’00”N 79°48’56”W there’s houses a part of El Cubano, it does have people. CubanoBoi (talk) 14:14, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Also if that’s the case can you review Draft:Rincón, Cuba CubanoBoi (talk) 15:41, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• CubanoBoi to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. KylieTastic (talk) 15:54, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

  Alright, but can you put back El Cubano since I just showed you proof that it’s populated CubanoBoi (talk) 15:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

  CubanoBoi you did not show that it's a "Populated, legally recognized place" - Wikipedia requires reliable sources. KylieTastic (talk) 15:58, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

I FOUND A GOVERNMENT SOURCE THAT TALKED ABOUT EL CUBANO! https://www.soycamajuani.gob.cu/es/nuestra-region/region-camajuani/un-poco-de-historia ITS THE GOVERNMENT WEBSITE OF CAMAJUANI CubanoBoi (talk) 16:12, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• CubanoBoi good, add any such sources you find to the article. If Cuba has a national census those are often good to showing subjects are legally recognized place, also does Spanish Wikipedia have a version with any sources? KylieTastic (talk) 16:33, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

  No, it only has one in Haitian which is only one sentence which isn’t even true, also it has two pages since they think La Flora and El Cubano are two different places CubanoBoi (talk) 16:35, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

  Should I resubmit? CubanoBoi (talk) 16:50, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

  I see you have so the question is stale, but it's probably a borderline case with a source to show a place of that name existed but no real details. KylieTastic (talk) 08:50, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Ashfaque Nabi

hi, created article which you considered to delete, has replied with several supporting news articles on deletion talk page. Request you to go through it and remove the deletion request. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whistleswhite (talk • contribs) 13:55, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

• Self published PR puff is not reliable sources KylieTastic (talk) 14:03, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

  sharing you reputed verifiable news references in support of articles:

  1- https://www.msn.com/en-in/autos/other/%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%AC-%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4-%E0%A4%86-%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE-%E0%A4%B9%E0%A5%88-%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF-%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B9%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B2-%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A7%E0%A5%80-%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%82-%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8-%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%80-%E0%A4%AF%E0%A5%82%E0%A4%A5-%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B8-%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%87-%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE-%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%B6%E0%A4%AB%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%95-%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%AC%E0%A5%80-%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%87-%E0%A4%89%E0%A4%A0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%88-%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97/amp/ar-AAYulje

  2- https://hindi.news18.com/news/nation/ashfaque-nabi-is-full-of-public-interest-along-with-politics-4381800.html

  Kindly remove the deletion notice, thank you Whistleswhite (talk) 15:45, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

  hello, some news reference are in Hindi language also. thank you Whistleswhite (talk) 15:48, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

• All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). KylieTastic (talk) 15:52, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks a lot, Kindly remove the deletion notice as I have provided evidence that it is my article that I wrote as Prof Julius Gathogo and I have surrendered my rights to wikipedia. Jumuga123 (talk) 23:06, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

• ... now and blocked as a sock - so not shocked. KylieTastic (talk) 16:11, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Request on 17:53:15, 16 July 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Jumuga123

• Jumuga123 (talk · contribs)
  • User:Jumuga123 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I am Professor Julius Gathogo who has written extensively as a simple google search will show, and this URL Link will also show https://kenyattauniversity.academia.edu/httpancciuniversityorg. Because I published an article with wikipendia and it was declined due to part of it appearing in a South African academic journal of church history, yet copyrights are mine as the author of both of them. A longer version of the article that i sent to you appears as follows: http://www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1017-04992018000200011&lng=en&nrm=iso&tlng=en

I am professor Julius Gathogo who works with Kenyatta University, UNISA and ANCCI University as a researcher.

Kindly note that I am the copyright owner and have only taken a section from my writeups, hence i urge you not to decline this summarry that is extracted from my article, published in 2018.

Jumuga123 (talk) 17:53, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• Jumuga123 note the statement above every edit you make here that "you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL". See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. KylieTastic (talk) 08:58, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

  Yes, you can use the entire article at http://www.scielo.org.za/pdf/she/v44n2/12.pdf though I sent a shortened one. It can be used in wikipedia Jumuga123 (talk) 22:15, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

  On this date, 18 July 2022, I have irrevocably agreed to release my contribution of my previous published article under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL" Hence, part of this article http://www.scielo.org.za/pdf/she/v44n2/12.pdf plus a power point presentation where NAHASHON NGARE RUKENYA's photos are appearing https://www.academia.edu/34305257/Presentation_on_Nahashon_Ngare_Rukenya_and_MRA_Univ_Stellenbosch_August_2017_pptx Jumuga123 (talk) 22:31, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Jumuga123 I'm not an administrator so cannot see the original (nor can I view the source it appeared to be copied from as that is blocked by my Virus scanner), but if your saying that the original is http://www.scielo.org.za/pdf/she/v44n2/12.pdf which is released as CC-BY then you can ask the deleting admin Jimfbleak to undelete. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:22, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you KylieTastic. Jumuga123 My computer blocks that site as a security threat too, perhaps you should run a scan. Even though you have resolved the copyright issue, there are still several problem. You clearly have just dumped the text without any references to our guidelines at all.

• The web page is self-written, so it's not an independent third-party source.
• The references at the bottom may be suitable, but they don't have page numbers, ISBN numbers (where appropriate) proper formatting, and, most importantly, they are not in-line as required here

• There are no wikilinks, not even Mau-Mau or Moral Re-Armament

I'll restore the page, but it's nowhere near ready as an article. KylieTastic, apologies for cluttering up your talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:10, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Request on 17:17:25, 18 July 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by 2600:6C50:157F:E44D:79F0:6646:9A8D:D60

• 2600:6C50:157F:E44D:79F0:6646:9A8D:D60 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Angie Crabtree (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I am tryign to make a page for Angie Crabtree who seems to have plenty of press coverage...what else would we need here friend? Thanks! Tyler

2600:6C50:157F:E44D:79F0:6646:9A8D:D60 (talk) 17:17, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hi 2600:6C50:157F:E44D:* Draft:Angie Crabtree has definitely been heading the the correct direction, although some more content would be better. Generally for general notability WP:GNG three+ good sources are what is looked for. jckonline look good, sfweekly is OK but has a lot of direct quotes so not so much independent and forbes is a difficulty one as they have largely sold out and take a lot of content direct from sources and in this case lacks significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) and frankly reads like a Valentine’s Day advert. As the last reviewer said they may be notable but difficult to tell from the submission. I did a quick search and did not find a lot, what you could do with is a good review piece about the artist and her work. Also don't add puff term like "hyper" without solid sources to back it - none of the sources use that word so it just looks like promo and not Encyclopedic. Hope that helps, Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:33, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Article

I finished my draft Draft:Alex Murphy (footballer born 2004)Iiiiiiiiiaaaaaaa (talk) 13:30, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Iiiiiiiiiaaaaaaa I have added the correct template so can can submit but note at the moment it would be declined. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 15:31, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Please review https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Asom_Barta

Draft:Asom Barta Kongkon majulian (talk) 12:47, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Kongkon majulian sorry but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Also it's not one of the subject areas I focus on. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:53, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

New to Wikipedia and struggling

Hi,

I just joined Wikipedia and I am struggling. I want to make a page for one of my favorite horror directors but I don't understand how to. When I google them, tons of information comes up and even their film is on Wikipedia but my draft was just declined due to not being able to prove that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. I thought I understood what a good source was but I am really lost. Any advice? Eboo1994 (talk) 22:53, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Eboo1994 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Usually we are looking for 3+ such good sources. You currently on Draft:Jared Masters have just one source that is just a basic listing with nothing about him. Also if multiple of his works were notable that would also help. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:11, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Hey Kylie review this article

Hi, since this https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft%3AUgezu_J_Ugezu?wprov=sfla1 was declined by you, I have updated it and I'm requesting you take a look at it now. Thank you Okechukwu4u (talk) 02:21, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Okechukwu4u to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Also it is not one of my subject areas of interest. I declined originality as it just had a single source which is never enough to show notability. I would note that all main claims should be sourced and I spotted that there is no reference for the awards, so I would look at those and then please re-submit. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:20, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

WP:ERAS in Massawa article

Hallo, I noticed that you "reverted" the style of the Massawa article from AD to CE. May I ask you where is the version with CE that you reverted to? As far as I can see, the original article style was AD, starting at the version of 22 August 2010. Or am I overseeing some older version? If it is so, please revert my reversion. Thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 19:16, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Alessandro57, my understanding is the point of WP:ERAS is to stop the rather pointless back and forth editing we have had in the past asserting personal preference. I have generally taken "An article's established era style should not be changed without reasons specific to its content" means what has been the 'stable' version, not necessarily delving back to what was first written. Although now delving into the history I agree the changing the era originally appears to have been done without giving a valid justification in 2018. When swapping editors should always say why, in this case reverting to original changed without justification, to stop the back and forth. So to answer your question I just reverted as the change was without saying why and a quick 'recent' (first page) history showed CE usage, not because I checked all the previous history. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:09, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Primus Canada

Primus Canada is not owned by Birch Communications (see the citations I added). Birch Communications is a defunct company that was taken over and absorbed by Fusion Connect in 2018. Primus Canada was sold by Fusion Connect as a distinct entity to Distributel in 2021. Please correct the error that you made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The axel (talk • contribs) 21:33, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

• The axel all articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You reinstated Primus Canada without adding source to show that notability. No one is claiming "Primus Canada" is owned by Birch Communications, the redirect goes to the company the acquired it and the fact that they have be acquired subsequently does not invalidate it. Someone search for Primus Canada will find themselves Birch_Communications#Covista_acquisition_(2013) and will be able to read that the company is acquired and no longer active. If Fusion Connect had existed they could have been re-directed to that, however if they have now been acquired by Distributel it makes sense to change the redirect to that, which I have done. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 11:19, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Page History for Andriy Melnyk (diplomat)

Hello KylieTastic, I'm a bit puzzled, and perhaps you know the answer. Today I got one of those standard watch-list e-mails, saying "Wikipedia page Andriy Melnyk (ambassador) has been changed by KylieTastic". (Andriy Melnyk (ambassador) was moved to Andriy Melnyk (diplomat) a little while ago.) So I went to the History for the page to see what's up, and it tells me the most recent edit was on 11 July. I imagine there may have been several edits since 11 July, because the page has attracted attention on the vexed question of Melnyk's imputed Nazi sympathies. But has the History itself been edited? Is there a gremlin? Can you shed any light? Thanks if you know, and thanks anyway for your work on WP. -- Frans Fowler (talk) 18:53, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Frans Fowler, yup it's sometimes not obvious what some notification are about, but luckily I remember doing that one..... It was just a New page patrol on the new redirect after the move as you can see in the logs marked as patrolled today. If you have a watch on an article that is moved you end up with watches on both and the link in the email will redirect to Andriy Melnyk (diplomat) when the change was for Andriy Melnyk (ambassador) adding to the confusion... and as its just a patrol not in the history so unclear to most. Hope that makes sense - Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:20, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

  Super KylieTastic! Thank you. So, in effect nothing changed between 11 July and now, except that you patrolled the page move – which triggered a notification but cannot be seen in the ordinary history. Relieved! -- Frans Fowler (talk) 04:23, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Anusha Rai

After this new film Khadak, actor Has lead roles in two notable films and hence actor becomes notable as per WP:ACTOR. Request you to re review the draft Ntkn766 (talk) 15:05, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Ntkn766 actors and Kannada cinema are not really my area and I generally ovoid WP:BLPs. However, I do think there is enough to justify another review and a reject appears harsh (unless I'm missing something). Some things still need sources such as her date of birth. I suggest you add what sources you can for any unsourced claims and then if you wish to submit again for review add {{subst:submit|Ntkn766}}. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 16:20, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

  Hello KylieTastic,

  Thanks for your response. Here is the link for her date of birth which is from book my show [18] also u can see her filmography which she has acted in Lead and cameo roles [19] have added almost all the sources. Ntkn766 (talk) 16:34, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, perhaps low power

Possibly the "Less than 10% remaining" red warning light was on when you wrote this. I'm pretty sure that I know what you meant to say when you wrote it, but of course it's not for me to tamper with it. Anyway, you may wish to revisit that talk page once you're back up to 60% or above. (And I'd certainly agree that the volume of shameless promotion in en:WP drains the power and the spirit.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:18, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Hoary, yes being both physically and mentally drained recently I have not had the energy for extra words and links especially when the likely-hood of an article reaching acceptance is low. However I assume the key issue was the missing not flipping the intended meaning, so I have fixed that and expanded. Thanks for the heads-up. I would not have minded if you had fixed or commented, but I understand why you would not want too with the reaction of some editors to such actions. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:59, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Though I very often want to delete stuff, hazy (or clear) memories of this or that well-meant but annoying guideline usually stop me from doing so. Yet for me, this draft is so blatantly promotional that I'd be inclined to invoke G11 and rid WP of it. ¶ I hope things look up for you: I can only say that I find it very therapeutic to turn off the computer for a half or more of a waking day. -- Hoary (talk) 11:52, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

has own website...

Well, so do I. Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

• Deepfriedokra yup! Some people are just.... special :) KylieTastic (talk) 18:43, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

PB PARTH BHAI

Dear, Please help me to publish an article "PB PARTH BHAI". Amitkumarshukla1979 (talk) 14:09, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

• Amitkumarshukla1979 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). KylieTastic (talk) 14:17, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Request on 19:18:12, 6 August 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Ollius

• Ollius (talk · contribs)
  • User:Ollius/sandbox/Ali Lateef (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have added sources and I'm still not getting accepted. What's wrong with the article?

Thanks!

Ollius (talk) 19:18, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Ollius all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). The first source just shows the book exists, the second does not appear to mention the subject. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

  The subject is in the second source, if you click men he's the third athlete there. The first source is his author page on Amazon.

  Thanks! Ollius (talk) 19:27, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

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	I GIVE YOU THIS BARNSTER BECAUSE OF YOU ARE NICELY WORKING ON WIKI NahidShihab (talk) 15:06, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

ABOUT IMPROVEMENT JOREKHALI SENIOR FAZIL DIGREE MADRASAH

HI DEAR, HOW CAN I IMPROVE MY ARTICLE, I TRSANLATED FROM BN ESISTING PAGE. AND I CAN SEE SOME REF LINKS DIDNOT WORKS PROPERLY AND CAN YOU MOVE THIS PAGE MAIN NAME SPEACH NahidShihab (talk) 15:01, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi NahidShihab I made some formatting changes but I did not review the page. Each language Wikipedia has it's own policies and guidelines so just because bn:জোড়খালী_ফাযিল_ডিগ্রী_মাদ্রাসা does not mean a translation is automatically acceptable. Yes I saw that some of the links no longer work, but they appear to be the same on the original - I fixed one using https://web.archive.org to get an old copy. It's not my subject area so I'll leave to one of the other reviewers. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 15:15, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

  @KylieTastic Thanks NahidShihab (talk) 15:24, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

You declined the page I edited.

You declined a page I created. Abbey Tumusiime (talk) 18:41, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

• Abbey Tumusiime yes i did - all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:43, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

  Okey the, help me create it following the regulations. please. Abbey Tumusiime (talk) 18:51, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Mohammed Usman ‎

Hi my page got declined Mohammed Usman. Can you suggest Me some edits to get approved? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Proboxingu (talk • contribs) 19:06, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Proboxingu all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Looking at WP:NMMA their is one condition that help notability based on MMA results. So if they don't meet that then you need to find probably 3+ sources that have significant coverage of them. For more information see Wikipedia:Notability (people). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:58, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Chak 43/GD, Tehsil and Okara

i am not in hurry @KylieTastic, please make sure to watch All wikipedia articles on Villages of Okara, if you are still watching uncompleted resources in my article, i have cut down unnecessary information which doest have reliable resources like no of population and union council, tell me if you dont find uncompleted sources. I have added all thesources which i found, i am doing it for 2 months but i have added only those which i found, i am done completed Kayzed4343 (talk) 04:38, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Edits to https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/2022_United_States_Senate_election_in_Utah

2022 United States Senate election in Utah , Local Newspaper poll shows third party candidate leaping from 4% to 14%. I believe the thresh hold to be included in the top info box is 5%

july poll: https://www.deseret.com/utah/2022/7/20/23271505/utah-us-senate-race-mike-lee-evan-mcmullin-new-poll-latest-polling-how-close-who-will-win

june poll: https://www.deseret.com/utah/2022/6/22/23177697/how-evan-mcmullin-stack-up-against-mike-lee-utah-senate-race-becky-edwards-ally-isom-cyrstal-ball Jh11850 (talk) 18:52, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

• Jh11850 neither of those mention Hansen just "others" and as the second one states "two third-party candidates are on the ballot" so he could be anywhere from 0-14%. Also don;t add sources written by the candidate - Wikipedia requires independent reliable sources. Lastly the question would be does the JH in your name stand for "James Hansen" is so stop editing and read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and note the WP:DISCLOSE section that is mandatory. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:04, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

  I disclosed it, thought it had already saved, but i just updated it. I'm sure the other third party candidate that wants to roll us back to the stone age in terms of social liberty is gaining steam... but so be it. I don't have the luxury of millions of dollars fueling my campaign and news cycle but I'll keep working on independent publishing. Jh11850 (talk) 19:18, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

  Hi Jh11850 thanks for the disclose and just remember this is an Encyclopedia not a political battle ground. That goes both ways so if you see any other candidate (or more likely there staff) pushing an agenda it should also go. Note I'm in the UK and have no real political leanings other than on a issue-by-issue base so I'm just applying guidelines and have no bias. Thus I also have no idea of the other 3rd party candidate so no comment. If they are one of those that stands often but gets no real support I would hope the polls separate you out, but too much media only focuses on the key 'race' and keeps things a two party system much as happens here in the UK and many other places as well. Lastly I agree the issue of who has the most money is something I hate so I really do sympathise, it should be about policy and historical actions. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:32, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

  Jh11850 note as I saw you uploaded an image I have added to the section next to the Libertarian convention section of 2022 United States Senate election in Utah. KylieTastic (talk) 19:35, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

  thanks! appreciate it! kinda getting a crash course on wikipedia today, thanks for your help Jh11850 (talk) 19:38, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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		According to this query, your name is listed as number one, and I want to personally thank you for your great work at AFC. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 14:26, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

• Thank you Idoghor Melody :) — KylieTastic (talk) 14:38, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Thank-you for reviewing my Draft submissions. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 16:13, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

• Your welcome Edward-Woodrow it's nice to find submissions to accept. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:28, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Draft Yuri Togkces

I would like to ask you to collaborate with the correct edition and creation of the page of the singer Yuri Togkces since you have experience to add, collect and create using the correct information of this Artis! Yumisis (talk) 21:48, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

• A quick search would suggest that they are not notable per WP:MUSICBIO or WP:BASIC. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:24, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Rejection of Lake Lohja (disambiguation)

Hi Kylie - you rejected my proposed disambiguation page Lake Lohja (disambiguation) with the comment "Only one exists". I just want to clarify what you meant by this. Two distinct articles (plus one redirect page) do already exist, not to mention two lakes in the real world.

• Lake Lohja (Finland) - redirects to Lohjanjärvi
• Lake Lohja (Estonia)

Is it because I jumped the gun and put the new name in for the second page, before I'd renamed it?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joepearson (talk • contribs) 11:03, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Joepearson, yes when I reviewed Lake Lohja (Estonia) did not exists. I would suggest just turning Lake Lohja into the disambiguation page rather than call it Lake Lohja (disambiguation) and as you are the only author of Draft:Lake Lohja (disambiguation) no attribution will be lost of you just update Lake Lohja. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

  Makes sense - Joe (talk) 11:25, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Declined the article

Hi I just created a very beautiful article about famous YouTuber Leart...but it got declined! As2302575 (talk) 17:56, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

• As2302575 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You have absolutely no independent reliable sources. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 17:59, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

  Please just have the courtesy to search the user on google once As2302575 (talk) 18:21, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

  As2302575 articles are reviewed on the sources given - if a google search finds independent reliable sources then do Wikipedia the "courtesy to search" and add them. KylieTastic (talk) 18:24, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

  I know you are a very renowned editor.This article is really important...make a deal out of it and please let it be as it is As2302575 (talk) 18:26, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

  As2302575 Wikipedia does not care about how many edits you've made just that we all edit per the polices and guidelines. This article is important to you, not to English Wikipedia. Maybe try Albanian Wikipedia as all languages have different polices. KylieTastic (talk) 18:30, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

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Summoning experts for my draft

I wanted to know if it is possible to invite people more specialized than me in Heavy rock and Heavy metal to implement my draft, I just formatted it.

Draft:Wired for Sound (Michael W. Smith single)‎

Draft:Secret Ambition (Michael W. Smith song)‎

--The Young Prussian (talk) 15:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi The Young Prussian there is Wikipedia:Requested articles however there are tons of requests so unlikely to be picked up - see Wikipedia:Requested articles/music/Songs for how many song requests already exist. There is also Wikipedia:WikiProject Metal where you could ask for help/advice. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). In this case look at WP:NSONG. The first thing to do with any new article is just to find enough sources to show notability, if you can't then that is the time to stop, if you can start by adding as simple as possible. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:50, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Create important wikipedia page

Hi!

I need help to create important bio about one entrepreneur very important in spain. He is surprisingly young and there is no article about it on wikipedia.

I have created the article but I have been rejected Barrasanexbi (talk) 18:10, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Barrasanexbi your name suggest this is yourself you are writing about - see Wikipedia:Autobiography this is strongly discouraged. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Nothing in the article suggest the subject is notable. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:16, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Taking long time get to approve re submitted article

@KylieTastic you recently declined my article. Now i corrected something and resubmitted it. My problem is when i submit my article first time reviewed it fastly (nearly in 4 hours after submitting). But why after a article Declined taking too long to review the same article? Abdullah Rifath (talk) 03:12, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Abdullah Rifath unfortunately there is a very large backlog, currently 2357. All reviewers are volunteers and as such come and go. New articles are often checked fairly quickly for issues like copyright, promotion, attack pages etc but after that they just become part of the backlog. Some reviewers work from the oldest, some at random and some on topic of interest and expertise, so it's just a waiting game. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:19, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

  @KylieTastic Thank you for getting back. Please can you check my article and tell me what should I want to improve Abdullah Rifath (talk) 14:13, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

  Hi Abdullah Rifath, sorry but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Also its good to have different reviewers to stop it being a 1-v-1. There are help links on the decline notice "Where to get help" section, and also the Wikipedia:Teahouse where lots of experienced editors answer questions. First see WP:NSCHOOL and WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Basically schools are not inherently notable and requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 17:53, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

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	For helping me understand more about citations are needed and why. DragonsBreathUP2 (talk) 09:39, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Remember me!

Hi @KylieTastic. I was trying to check the AfC review counts in the last thirty days through this link but I fail to get any helpful response. Could you help me doing it? I'm not sure how this works exactly. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks, ─ The Aafī (talk) 14:33, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hey TheAafi, here is a query of the last 30 days, which is the length of time the recentchanges table changes has. As the note at the top says it does not count deleted as you need to be an admin to see that data. I've recently run so quite up-to-date, but if you want to re-run or keep a version to link without changing then just Fork it. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:42, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Arun Adhikari

What does, "pure fantasy" mean? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:41, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Deepfriedokra, claims from the sources "one of India’s most popular EDM artists", "earning millions of hits on his singles online", "collaborates frequently with international artistes" sounds massive! Reality spotify 2 monthly listeners, YouTube 622 subs 1,114 views, Twitter 135 Followers (1,207 Following), spinnin records 1 song, 0 followers, Soundcloud 4 followers (102 following), personal website no links to this hugely popular music. "chart-topping 'City Of The Lonely Hearts'" - Well it was chart-topping for Zaeden, but their are no google hits for any version by arunadh007 or Arun Adhikari. "premiered live in front of 50,000 people at Tomorrowland in Amsterdam, when he was just 19" - Tomorrowland is in Boom, Belgium - there was a spin off event in 2019 but at 19 would make 2015 - not listed in lineup (so not shocked). As per other fantasy bios they have created self promo fantasy IMDB and crunchbase profile also started 2 'companies'. Even after all these years doing this I still can't even being to fathom the mindset behind people like this :/ Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:56, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks. That's a fantastic job you did fact checking. Superficially, the sources looked OK. In case you did not notice, they took over an article and are now blocked for spamming. Wait, can I delete the draft as a hoax? Fake refs = hoax. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

  Hey Deepfriedokra, I get stuck down the rabbit-hole thinking no one would surely be so keen on promoting how bad they are that they must have done something real.... and just find a longer list of ways they promote their nothingness. I agree deleting as a hoax was a fair call, but could also gone with G5 created by blocked user/block evasion from Arunadh007 and NNBDigitalMedia - Also I think they were Acvofficial and Arun Adhikari. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:52, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

  The socks keep appearing. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:53, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

  That's amazing. They seem really intent on creating an article about themselves. 2011? 2017? Argues in favor of deliberate hoaxing. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:56, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Request on 11:57:39, 19 August 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Gareth Beyers

• Gareth Beyers (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:AfricaRare: Africa's first metaverse project (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi,I really need help getting this article published. What guidance would you recommend to get this article up to scratch?

Many thanks,

Gareth Beyers (talk) 11:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Gareth Beyers all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Currently only one of the sources appears to mention Africarare. So it's not just showing notability that is lacking but sources in general. Also note that articles related to General sanctions/Blockchain and cryptocurrencies are under Wikipedia:General sanctions. Hope that explains things a bit - Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:07, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

I have restructured the article, and added references to some very credible sources. Forbes, Mail and Guardian, and a local News site. This is a first-of-its-kind project n Africa. I have a list of publications we are linked to. Would it help our cause to list all the publications as well as a whitepaper we have crafted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gareth Beyers (talk • contribs) 13:49, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Gareth Beyers I had tried to answer earlier but had a powercut at the office :/. It looks like an improvement - as at least now you have sources and they all actually mention the subject (but I haven't read them). However - No, listing whitepapers you have created is not very helpful - yes they can be used to source facts in an article, but in general non-primary sources are vastly more helpful. Apart from the general point of having all claims sourced, for notability (which is what you need to show) we look for 3+ sources with significant coverage in independent reliable sources. However as I noted above blockchain and NFTs are so heavily trying to use Wikipedia to promote these days that such topics are much more carefully vetted and usually need a bit more to show notability. It's late so I just quick scanned but it does not appear promotional or have any obvious red flags so moving in a good direction. If you can find any other serious news sources with significant coverage then please add, but I would not add any whitepapers etc created by the subject. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:26, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks KylieTastic,

  I appreciate the help in restructuring and formatting my article. I have resubmitted my draft do I just wait for the next update?

  Should I add the list of publications we have? Or should I right the article purely around the articles we have published about us?

  I look forward to hear back from you.

  All the best, Gareth Beyers (talk) 07:32, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Gareth Beyers although adding extra primary sources should not distract for notability as judged by the independent sources it is probably best to avoid. Especially as you have a declared WP:COI. If their is a single link to the publications/white-papers the best place to add would be as a single link in an external links section after the references. However if these are all available for the root website leave at that (note I have added a link to africarare.io in the EL section). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:36, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Rejected DuKane Conference

Hi I'm not getting why this simple athletic conference page keeps being rejected for references.

• 1. Every other athletic conference has a similar page, with similar references.
• 2. I modeled mine after the nearby Upstate Eight Conference, which is deemed important enough to have a page.
• 3. The DuKane athletic conference is just a few years old.
• 4. Do you need more links from local newspaper articles about one team beating another with player names and scores?
• 5. What is the harm in having this be a page? It gives some information about a high school level athletic conference in the Chicago area.

Aaron Miller Aaronatwake (talk) 13:51, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Aaronatwake all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Most of your sources are basic mentions that are good to say show that each is part of the conference but not for notability. The Wikipedia:Other Stuff Exists argument does not help as there are still many sub standard article already in main-space - if others exist like this then it is more likely they would be deleted then it help add more possibly non-notable articles. Unfortunately Upstate Eight Conference does have referencing issues as well, and may not be notable. Also often when comparing people get mixed up with the number of sources vs having 3+ independent reliable sources with significant coverage. Wikipedia is an international Encyclopedia so issues are only of interest to locals usually fail to pass notability. Lastly in answer to 5: Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia not a place to promote local interest subjects, the harm is that Wikipedia would become filled up with so much similar content that it's effectiveness and reputation would be affected. If any other independent reliable sources with significant coverage exists please do add, if not it may just be WP:TOOSOON and for now social media is more appropriate. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:09, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Reliable sources

I am shocked about YOU!
Analogy, so you can understand it:
Me: Writes an in depth article about the Intel 80386 CPU and giving the "Intel 80386 Hardware Reference Manual" as source. The best source on this world you can ever use for such an article about this topic.
You: Declines Submission with the words "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified."
Me: Wonders about YOU. You call yourself a programmer and can't even comprehend a technical manual from Texas Instrument as reliable source. I am astonished.
Conclusion: You know what, I don't care. If the people here are like you, then the article just won't go into Wikipedia, it would be a waste of effort. Fix your "reliable sources" mimimi yourself. IT-Compiler (talk) 18:31, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

And btw. you also deleted the new additions. You can't even use the Wikipedia tools accordingly like they are supposed to use. IT-Compiler (talk) 18:34, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

• IT-Compiler the only article I see that this comes from is Draft:20-bit computing... if that is what you call an "in depth article about the Intel 80386 CPU" I'm confused as it's neither in-depth at under 100 words or even mentions the I386#M80386. You also appear to have missed the notability tag which is the main issue, but we have no control over the order they are put in. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). I would expect more sources to exist even though it's a uncommon structure. Also please note the notice does not say the source given is not a reliable source (it is) - it says "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources" i.e. not enough reliable sources to show notability. The article had already been sent to draft, if any reviewer accepted with just one source it would just be either sent back to draft or sent for deletion. KylieTastic (talk) 18:54, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

  1. I am laughing out loudly because of you. Learn what an analogy is. :rolleyes: The ability to think abstractly is one of the requirements of programming. Yes, that was a test.

  2. To this date, there is only one 20-bit computer that I know of and it has been mentioned and credited with a reliable source. This one source is supreme and therefore no other source is required for this 20 bit processor and article. This microprocessor does exist and can be bought in large numbers. If there were other 20-bit CPUs that I know of, I would have mentioned them. So what is there should be taken as a reliable source and is enough to validate this article. Live with it and accept it. IT-Compiler (talk) 19:26, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Removed Instagram Link

Hi there! I was wondering why you removed the Instagram link on Draft:Uozu Aquarium, citing WP:NOSOCIAL, since there it says "Except for a link to an official page of the article's subject", and the instagram link is the official page. Still working out how things work. Thanks in advance. Purplemontart (talk) 17:29, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Purplemontart yes an Instagram link can serve as the official page if that is all there is, however in this case Draft:Uozu Aquarium has official websites in both English and Japanese both that link to the Instagram and other socials. WP:NOSOCIAL is to keep from spamming loads of social links which are usually not very Encyclopedic, when there is an official website that is usually preferred and should be the place readers discover social links if they want them. Hope that makes sense - Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:35, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

  @KylieTastic Hey, thanks for the quick response, and yep, I get it, I was misunderstanding the policy as usual hah. Thanks for the explanation too. Purplemontart (talk) 17:37, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Purplemontart no worries and many of the guidelines are up to interpretation especially if you don't know them all (and I've been doing this a long time and still get pointed to new ones). Per WP:ELMINOFFICIAL (on the same page) "Normally, only one official link is included" - however I interpret this as having both the English and Japanese versions valid in the intent of the rule (i.e. stop promotional link spamming). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:45, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Help

Hi hope you are doing good ? Its request to check and Review Shivam Gupta and Draft:Yeshu (TV serial).

Thanks Pp01902 (talk) 19:09, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Pp01902 hope your well. Sorry, but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. KylieTastic (talk) 08:41, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Corrected sources

Good evening, I have corrected the sources and everything seems to be OK. If you could just take a look I would be delighted. https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Warsaw_Philharmonic_Choir

All the best

Marek Marek Gudowski (talk) 19:37, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Marek Gudowski, thanks for updating and re-submitting. However to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Also I'm hitting a wall tonight - just a bit of burn out and need a break - I've done over 1000 reviews this month and need a break. Hopefully one of the other reviewers will get to it soon, but no promises there is a big backlog. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:46, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Morning Edition (BBC radio programme)

Hi,

I see that you have refused to move my article about this national BBC radio programme to the main website, and seemingly for the same reasons as before. I have added two independent references to the article which are directly about the programme. They are not passing references and they are both independent sources which are not related to the programme and not related to the BBC.

I am therefore puzzled as to what I have to do to get this article onto Wikipedia as I now do not know why this article keeps getting refused.

Any guidance would be appreciated. Rillington (talk) 12:47, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Rillington, all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Ref1: just shows(ish) when Danny Baker started assuming "Radio 5's new breakfast cereal" refers to him starting - not a clear source and does not help notability; Ref2: Similar, vague and does not help notability; Refs 3 & 4: Similar, minimal and needs interpretation; Ref5: which appears to be a copy of the first show, but from listening to the start in neither says the date or that it was the first show (but I'm not going to listen to al 34 minutes) - not independent, not significant coverage and probably a copyright violation; Ref6: Independent, no reason to not take as a WP:RS, has the first actual coverage but far from significant with 3 sentences. We normally look for 3+ independent reliable sources with significant coverage and so far I would class this as 0.5 out of 3 and also a lot of claims unsourced. Hope that explains the thinking behind the review. I would be surprised if more sources do not exist but as it's pre popular internet much may be in news and magazine archives. Also I did a quick look for a start source and was surprised that on a 1990 search it was not August as I found this listing the "Morning Edition" at 6:30 am on BBC Radio 5, Jan 3, 1990 which is confusing - I'm guessing maybe it was a non national pre-launch or something? Other sources like this and this suggest there was a "Morning Edition" show on Radio 5 starting on the 28th. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:10, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

• • Hi, thank you for a most helpful reply, as I can take this guidance to future articles.

Reference five is from the second edition of the show and the part of the programme that i am referring to is approximately four minutes into the recording. I'm sure that I have heard a full pre-launch trailer which will have described the show in more detail and should I find it I would add this. As you say, there are bound to me more references about what was a UK-wide show which ran for the entire duration of the show. It's just a case of finding them.

And regarding the references which are from listings, why do you think that they are not reliable sources? I appreciate that they come from back issues of the Radio Times, which at the time was owned by the BBC, but they do provide that reference to back up the information being stated in the article. Rillington (talk) 12:16, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Rillington, the listing are reliable sources - however as there is no depth they just don't help to notability, but they are still valid sources. There are two requirements for sources: the first is Wikipedia:Verifiability (to keep us an Encyclopedia rather than a blog/social media post want you want site) and for that listing etc can be great; the second is for notability requiring depth. When reviewing we primarily focus on notability because after that we/others can either tag as needing more sources or remove unsourced material. There is an issue with these listings as they need some interpretation for instance saying "Radio 5's new breakfast cereal" rather than "Danny Baker takes over the reigns of the Morning Edition". However I doubt anyone would claim the Radio Times (or similar) was not a reliable source for listings, or similar basic facts. I did a search of the newspapers hoping to find one of Danny Baker taking over for an example but failed. Frankly finding the sources is often the hardest part.

• Hi, and once again thank you for a most helpful reply. I've been editing for more than a decade but I know there's always more to learn and I welcome this help from fellow Wikipedians such as yourself who have far more experience at doing this than I have.

Thank you for confirming that the BBC listings are valid references but as you rightly say, we are reliant on what the description writers chose to use at the time and the more pithy or opaque descriptions aren't necessarily helpful nor clear. I hope you agree that this article is now not far off being suitable for mainspace and I am confident that there are more sources available for this and for my other Radio 5 article (about its drivetime show Five Aside) which is also in draftspace, and possibly this could enable me to create articles for the other major Radio 5 programmes. Any further guidance would be much appreciated and again thank you for your help. Rillington (talk) 13:38, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

• Rillington if your interested in writing/improving articles where sources are likely to be in old newspapers you could sign up for The Wikipedia Library (via https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/) and apply for access to newspapers.com - That how I got those clippings before. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:47, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Request on 14:47:35, 31 August 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Ha6arIs

• Ha6arIs (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Data.europa.eu (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear @KylieTastic:, Thanks for reviewing the draft. Being a first time editor, I hope I am using the correct way to comment and that the reasons kindly indicated for the rejection of the draft can be addressed in this forum.

Reliable sources - I have added some external links to news about the launch of portal. As per notability, I should mention that this article was created because a user's suggested update of /European_Data_Portal to "data.europa.eu" was rejected. In fact, this draft article talks about a new portal that replaces both /European_Data_Portal and /EU_Open_Data_Portal. It should be referenced in both and so I hope this supports the notability request. The portal has more than 100,000 unique visitors per month (unfortunately web-analytics data is not public) and is a point of reference for data-publishers, academics, data scientists and many more. The EU Datathon , for example, requires that competitors use datasets retrieved from the portal.

A few external mentions of the portal are provided here as links ; .

Any suggestion on how to address these issues will be very welcome.

Ha6arIs (talk) 14:47, 31 August 2022 (UTC) Ha6arIs (talk) 14:47, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

References

• Self note: I came to answer but user is blocked as sock so no point. KylieTastic (talk) 20:11, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Our Biographical pages

Hello! I am magnolia321 and I have recently been working on making and editing biographical pages on wikipedia. I am doing this in conjunction with an organization called HGAPS. This organization is dedicated to making evidence-based psychological information free and accessible to all. The current biographical pages our team is working on are all leading researchers in psychology. We specifically chose to create pages on women and minority psychologists. I have recently noticed the pages we have created have drawn the attention of experienced editors, and you were someone that stood out to us. Your critiques were very helpful in understanding what we needed to improve to make the page of better quality and to meet wiki standards. Based on your recent activity on the pages, we were hoping to propose a collaboration with you. We want to add more biographies of psychological leaders in the future, specifically those of minority backgrounds. With your help to guide us, we can keep the pages to wiki standards. We would love to hear your thoughts about this collaboration!

Thank you again for the feedback on our pages :)) Magnolia321 (talk) 23:08, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Magnolia321, sorry but I have more work than I have time for already not even including a list of a few hundred historical biographies to create or finish. Also WP:BLPs articles are not my area of interest. However I approve very much on your goal of "evidence-based psychological information free and accessible to all". I would suggest maybe approaching Wikiprojects for help such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Psychology and if any are women Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Psychology and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red (and you could add them to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Psychology list). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:31, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

  Thank you for the replay KylieTastic!

  I totally understand what you mean with too much work at the moment. Thank you for the suggestions nevertheless! I will definitely bring up the wikiprojects you suggested to my team.

  Though this isn't an area of interest for you, we appreciate the feedback from you thus far. If at any point in the future you would want to collaborate, please don't hesitate to reach out! We would still appreciate any form of help :)) Magnolia321 (talk) 00:07, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft:May Tower Bigelow

If you have time and interest, could you please take a look at this one? FloridaArmy (talk) 21:36, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

• Hey FloridaArmy I could not find any access the three first sources - so you have access to such books you use, or do you just use the snippets that come up when search google for books? It's close to a C-class but I could not find enough to polish up to that (or at least when self rating). I also failed to find a photo which was a bit disappointing. On the plus side another historically significant woman no longer red. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:16, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your help as always. My access to books varies. Sometimes it's good and sometimes it's very limited so I post the source on the talkpage for possible follow up. Draft:Ida D. Bailey is an interesting subject I think and part of some noteworthy groups. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:43, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Lev Sheinin

Thanks for fixing the references, that was nice of you.Rubiks2022 (talk) 00:24, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

thank you

Thank you for what you do remder you are special.

Kenny1111 Kenny 1111 (talk) 19:51, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

The issue has been fixed

As you've noted earlier, my earlier submitted contents are now referenced to their specific URLs respectively rather than the website homepage.

Regards Obadeog (talk) 11:20, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Enjoy! Obadeog (talk) 11:21, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

declined draft

hey i recently tried to make a wikipedia page for our discord server and it got declined, u mind just passing it, it's just for the community and making people laugh for a bit, u can revert it back tomorrow. it'd be fun for everyone as everyone has been going through it for a while and just wanted to make them laugh. Valerio Celik (talk) 18:22, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Valerio Celik No! Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia not social media. Any reviewer who did such a thing would have their privileges revoked. KylieTastic (talk) 19:09, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Tridacna squamosina

Hello, I've recently submitted an article about the Tridacna squaminosa. Somehow, it's been declined because "it's a duplicate of another article." I went to the "another article" and it seems to be mine, but, somehow, edited. The article links to another user, and I don't know why! It also led me to this page.

Thanks! 0561029Ar (talk) 23:34, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

• Hi 0561029Ar the reviewer just made a mistake thinking Draft:Tridacna squamosina was the same as Tridacna squamosa - which it is not. Tridacna squamosina is a notable subject but just requires better referencing. I expanded the references, but they need to be used inline to make it easier for readers to verify the information. Also as the reviewer noted that as the species as identified by Sturany in 1899 then claims such as "recently identified" and "The species was properly discovered and described only 10 years ago" do not make sense. Also side not: do not use terms like "X years ago" because as the article ages that becomes wrong, always use the actual dates. The reefs.com source says it was re-described in 2005, which is 17 years ago, before being accepted as squamosina from 1899 so the text as it stands is incorrect and need sourcing (see Help:Referencing for beginners). As I said, this is a notable subject so a good one to start with. Also if you have any questions the Wikipedia:Teahouse is there for new editors. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 10:04, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

  Thank you so much for the amazing feedback. Your editing did help my article a lot!

  Thanks a lot! 0561029Ar (talk) 19:58, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

• 0561029Ar happy to help, I would normally do a bit more tidy-up and accept but I'm a bit busy IRL. I note that "first described jus over ten years ago" came from reefbuilders.com but note that was an article from 2019, so a good example of how "X years ago" is bad for anything that may be read in the future, also the author failed to note the reason for the re-classification from Tridacna costata to Tridacna squamosina was that is was discovered earlier - frankly not giving much faith in that source. I note that reefs.com say "The shell is white" but the pictures in the reefbuilders.com article show it as brown with white lines and a green rim... so this need more cross-checking. If no one else gets to it before I'll try to find time to look when I get some time. Oh and another source. KylieTastic (talk) 14:18, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Bubbe Awards

Hi Kylie, I’m surprised this was rejected for lacking reliable sources. The Bubbe Awards are an annual event to recognize the best in Yiddish and Klezmer music. The event has been covered by the Forward newspaper, the largest Jewish newspaper in North America and Tablet Magazine, one of the most important Jewish magazines. Both are highly reputable sources. Is there a way to appeal this? Thanks Thatwikiiam (talk) 11:36, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Thatwikiiam all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). The tabletmag.com source has no depth it's just a mention in the Also section of another article; The forward.com is a valid source with some significant coverage; We usually look for 3+ independent reliable sources with significant coverage, and so far you have one. Also the 2022 section does not have a source. Note that although English sources are preferred they do not have to be in English. Lastly you say its an "annual event" but only mention 2020 and 2022 - did it start in 2020, is it actually bi-annual or was 2021 missed for a reason? See what extra sources you can find and add to show notability and also to reference the unsourced items, then re-submit. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:53, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello Kylie, Thanks for the help. There are a number of sources that aren't in English. After all, this is an award for Yiddish music. There is also radio coverage of the event, such as this one from Canada's only Yiddish language radio program. Keep in mind that Yiddish is an endangered language after most speakers were murdered during the Holocaust. Consequently, a lot of the coverage of this event is in Yiddish, but it doesn't make it less newsworthy. The artists involved in this field have devoted their lives to preserving endangered culture, and it would be a shame now to have their work blocked here.

Re: 2021. Because of the pandemic, that edition of the awards ceremony was held virtually. I'll update those winners. All of the ceremonies can be viewed on YouTube.

Thanks again for all of the help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thatwikiiam (talk • contribs) 14:22, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello

Hello dear how are you Tomcea92 (talk) 20:14, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Spanish at the 2024 Summer Olympics

Hi, I don't understand why this draft has been rejected when similar pages (Israel at the 2024 Summer Olympics, Germany at the 2024 Summer Olympics...) have been accepted when their first quotas have been officially allocated, as in the case of Spain. There is no sense in accepting them for several countries and rejecting it for the other. Regards! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anggelito (talk • contribs) 18:27, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Anggelito all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Draft:Spain at the 2024 Summer Olympics has a single source. Germany at the 2024 Summer Olympics is still WP:TOOSOON in my opinion and was not accepted (via AfC draft) but created directly and was repeatedly redirected to Germany at the Olympics and could be again. Israel at the 2024 Summer Olympics was also created directly but has not been reviewed and I could see it sent to draft for improvement. So no AfC is not accepting some and rejecting others, also not it is not rejected but declined (for now) which means you should add more sources to show notability before re-submitting. It a reader came across any off these they would not really tell them much, and per WP:CRYSTALBALL 2024 is a long way off and the last few years have so horribly shown how plans can change. At the moment Draft:Spanish at the 2024 Summer Olympics really tells the reader nothing more that Spain intends to be at the 2024 Summer Olympics and probably with compete in Gymnastics. See what other sources/information exists, add them, then resubmit. Note that sources do not have to be in English, so check Spanish sources. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:11, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Editor ArianaGrandeBienvenidaaMexico

Hi, I saw you left a message regarding notability requirements for song and album articles on the talk page of this new editor. Unfortunately, I don't think it's going to have much effect, because the reason their AfC submissions keep being rejected is because by and large they are hoaxes, so obviously there are no sources for their articles. The album articles are definitely all fake - not only are they for albums supposedly released a year or more into the future from now, the single source that most of them are based on say nothing about the album... usually just gossip that the artist "is working on new material", and that's it. The song articles are for songs that do exist, but without anything to make them notable - most of them are just album tracks, occasionally having been sent to radio as a promotional track, but that doesn't make them pass WP:NSONG.

I left a message on their talk page regarding the fake articles, but they have removed it, so they obviously have no interest in communicating, and it appears they just want to continue wasting the time of you and other editors at AfC submissions. Not sure whether to send their draft articles for G3 speedy deletion, or to take them to ANI, which I don't really like doing... I'll probably try leaving them a final warning first if they persist. Richard3120 (talk) 20:18, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Richard3120 I did notice they removed your message but the last few submissions have been for actual songs not hoaxes so I'm AGF that they noted and accepted. I have seen others before who have just jumped in with no understanding there are guidelines/polices and this is not like social media where you can post almost anything and then improved when realising how things work here. Sometimes, but yes rarely, they realise and become constructive editors. I hadn't noticed they had been working on so-far non notable future possible albums, but until they submit them I will again AGF that they are just playing the long game and being ready to submit if they become real. I try to always AGF but as 80% of AfC submissions are junk I suspect your gong to be proved correct, but as I (we) would not except CRYSTALBALL edits I will try to not presume the most probable future of their conduct as fact and wait to see their next move.... We can but live in hope ;) and if not you are correct a termination action will probably be required. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:50, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

• That sounds entirely reasonable... we'll see if they take your suggestion on board. If they continue to submit junk then we will know if they are AGF or not. I'll leave it for now but I'll put them on my watchlist and see what happens. Thanks. Richard3120 (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

• Not hopeful that this editor has stopped creating draft hoaxes... they've started another one today for an album they confidently predict will be released in July 2023, along with predicted future single release dates, and which again has only a single source, a non-RS written in very poor English, which just says that an album will be released soon... no title, no track listing. Richard3120 (talk) 20:43, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

• Richard3120 no they probably will hang themselves - and that is a very bad source "Karol ji" for "Karol G" and "his fans"/"his tour"!? KylieTastic (talk) 09:44, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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Hoax article

Hello, KylieTastic,

I was just deleting a draft article tagged as a hoax, Draft:Smooth Operator (album), and, actually, it's been deleted twice. Looking at who edited it, both versions were started by IP editors, one based in Belarus and the other from the Russian Federation. The draft article was also edited by ArianaGrandeBienvenidaaMexico and when I looked over the drafts she had started, they were all for "upcoming" albums or singles that aren't mentioned and sourced on the artists' biographies. So, I was wondering if they might be hoaxes as well and if there is a connection between this editor and the IP accounts who created the hoax draft article. I noticed that you reviewed some of these drafts and left a message on ArianaGrandeBienvenidaaMexico's talk page so I just thought I'd bring this to your attention in case you are evaluating other drafts they have created. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:45, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Liz, ArianaGrandeBienvenidaaMexico is being watched (see User_talk:KylieTastic#Editor_ArianaGrandeBienvenidaaMexico) above and I believe they are probably the same as one or several of the IP addresses from Saint Petersburg. Odd behaviour. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:30, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello!

Hi! Thank you very much for checking this article. Unfortunately, that was the best that I could do. There will be no further editing in that article from my side. Thank you! TonJ (talk) 18:39, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

• Hey TonJ it's unclear if she is notable or not, on one hand google searches for "Marjan Farsad" and "مرجان فرساد" return significant number of hits, but as the main returns are socials not so good a sign (just being popular on social media is not notable). However all you would need is a couple of reliable sources with significant coverage. Such as any reviews of her album Blue Flowers? However it's your choice to leave it, but do note that drafts are generally left for 6 months inactivity before deletion, so if you find a source later you can come back to it. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 18:54, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Undid your re-addition of an AfC decline

Hi, just wanted to let you know I undid your removal of a past decline from a draft. [20] Gorutna is a checkuser blocked account who probably shouldn't have been allowed to review AfC submissions in the first place. Said reinstatement of the decline ended up breaking the WP:AFCH script somehow. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 18:21, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JabrinUttu/Archive for more info. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 18:22, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Chess, thanks I missed that one (I do wish the block notices showed on the user page and talk page). Although I'm also suspicious that the latest submitter is also a sock or meat puppet. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:52, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

  @KylieTastic: I've gone ahead and tagged the user page so people know why I just mass-reverted them. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 19:02, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

changes to South American Explorer

Hi Kylie, I notice you recently edited the page for South American Explorer and presumably it was in that edit that my contribution disappeared. I am wondering why. As someone who was there I provided first-person perspective. What prompted the removal?

Mark Mardon MCMARDON (talk) 23:21, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

• Hi MCMARDON all content on Wikipedia should be sourced, adding your own "first-person perspective" is not allowed - see Wikipedia:No original research. Wikipedia:Verifiability is a cornerstone of Wikipedia, although most consider taking a balanced approach and not removing every last unsourced claim. For instance the complete "Clubhouses in South America" section just has one generally unreliable source and could have been totally removed. You also started talking about, presumably living, people so per Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons even more care is required. Writing in the style of "which she downed like a grizzled sailor while regaling us with stories" is a personal story not written like Encyclopedic content. Lastly from your username you would appear to be writing about yourself or someone you know so Wikipedia:Conflict of interest is another key policy to note. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:32, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Main Directorate of Deep-Sea Research

Hello, KylieTastic! It is good that you review new articles, in order to keep the quality. Here, I have added a reference and some more things about GUGI. Since it is a secret organisation, it might be difficult to find sources. It is mentioned by Anders Åslund: on Twitter. What more is needed? Per W (talk) 11:34, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Per W, all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). This generally means we are looking for 3+ such sources. As you note secret organisations by their nature can have few sources apart from speculation and rumour. For such a subject it's important to remember this is an encyclopedic and as such we do not repeat speculation and rumour, but if reported widely we can add that it was reported. Even though Anders Åslund is notable I would be very dubious of speculations on Twitter. The idea that Russia blew up their own pipeline to get NATO to focus on their own defence and back away from Ukraine is a stretch, also the idea that NATO have not already worked on, have, a response to this know threat that has existed since 1976 is very dubious. However saying that I think there are more sources that can be found. The Russian version ru:Главное управление глубоководных исследований Министерства обороны Российской Федерации has some sources (but much marked as unsourced) , there are also other language versions that may help wikidata:Q61360193. A quick google found [21] [22]. See what you can find and add, then resubmit. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:50, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks for the information! I'm quite aware of the general requirements for an encyclopedia. I want to have the basic information in the article as the organisation is mentioned. Speculations about current events are not generally suited.

  The reference [2] is already in my draft and [3] is written by the same author. So, I will try to find some more and also I will look at the Russian article. Per W (talk) 15:36, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

  Per W I'm glad someone is paying attention :/ can't believe I missed that was the same source and the other by the same person. That will teach me to edit while on the phone! KylieTastic (talk) 16:05, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

  Well, sometimes you do mistakes. They can be corrected. Per W (talk) 16:11, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

  Two independent references added and some vessels also. Shouldn't this be enough for the notability? Per W (talk) 05:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

  Per W thanks for updating and resubmitting however to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Hopefully it will be reviewed soon. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 11:02, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

  Good! Then I know where the draft is in the process. Per W (talk) 14:23, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

autoevolution redirect to Softpedia

I understand what you mean by "Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic", but why did you put back a redirect that's 13 years old and makes no sense? Do you think that's more useful or more informative than what I contributed? Binglipp (talk) 17:43, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Binglipp if there is a better redirect feel free to change it, or if you can find enough sources for autoevolution to be notable on its own create with the proper sourcing. If the redirect is the current best option then the fact that it is 13 years old makes no difference. If there is not enough sources for notability (See WP:N) then if you have some sources it could be added to Softpedia. As is stands Softpedia is a terrible quality article and as such its probably more likely that could be deleted rather than add another article that does not meet the current requirements. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:04, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

  Thank you for the response, much appreciated! Honestly, I don't understand why it was redirected to Softpedia at all. I mean, not only is it not "the current best option", I don't see it as an option at all. Why redirect a page about a car site to a page about a software site? Binglipp (talk) 18:17, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

  Understood, thanks. It's probably best to have it deleted. Binglipp (talk) 18:46, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

  Hi Binglipp I was confused at first but it appears to be that they are both owned by "SoftNews NET SRL", but I agree a tenuous link. If that organisation had an article it would be redirected to that. I have added a sentence and source to Softpedia to at least make it less odd. The other option which is a very valid choice is to have it deleted as a bad redirect - see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion for that. Cheers KylieTastic (talk)

Welcome message change

Hello, KylieTastic,

I don't know whether you have noticed but those who work on Twinkle have removed the Welcome message that I, and I know you, use most often that goes by the name of "graphical". I have posted a request on the talk page to bring it back at Wikipedia talk:Twinkle if you would like to chime in on the subject. I've seen other AFC reviewers who use it a lot, too, but you were the only reviewer whose name came to mind. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:49, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Liz, yes I saw it was removed again - just another reason I have very little motivation to edit at the moment. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:13, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Southridge Tech Middle School

Hello KylieTastic. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Southridge Tech Middle School, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to schools. Thank you. BangJan1999 19:21, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

• Hey BangJan1999 thanks for the heads-up, not sure how I missed that one (probably because at AfC schools are just declined as orgs). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:27, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Luke Duffy Wikipedia page

Hi there! i saw you rejected my submission, i was just looking for some feedback as a new contributor as to how i could get this article passed? i have reviewed and improved the references. Thanks! Leapinglad (talk) 12:16, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Leapinglad, all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). In this case see Wikipedia:Notability (people) for the notability guidelines for people. You currently have two references: the first does not mention them and anyway 11 December 2022 is in the future, so clearly fiction that they were part of a group that won; The second is just a mention. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:32, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

  sorry, this is a mistake, i meant to put the 2021 european cross country championships, this is not fiction, i will edit that now and re-submit Leapinglad (talk) 12:45, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Jake Garrett

Honestly mate I can't see what the issue is with his page as its the same as others accepted, hes made his professional league debut, I've been editing pages about my the team I support for many years now with no issues but now it seems impossible to get new ones accepted Tombury89 (talk) 12:39, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Tombury89 their used to be a section of Wikipedia:Notability (sports) (referred to as "NFOOTY") that said anyone who had played for a pro league they were deemed notable. However that was removed 1 April 2022 after the discussion here: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Sports notability. Now for football players WP:SPORTBASIC applies and Draft:Jake Garrett does not show any notability - the 2 bbc sources do not mention them and the rovers is not independent. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 13:02, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Fujairah fine arts academy

You recently rejected this draft because it appeared to be copied from the academy’s website. That’s not surprising. The article was created by Adnan alqaq. Based on, for example, https: // www . zoominfo . com/p/Adnan-Alqaq/5564076874 (zoominfo.com is blocked despite not being listed in the blocklist log), it seems that this user works there.

If that’s true, that means they have an undisclosed COI. Brianjd (talk) 14:12, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Brianjd thanks for the heads-up. I have added a COI warning to there userpage as well. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:02, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Singer

https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Javad_(singer) 83.123.135.251 (talk) 12:44, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• I have added a header template for you, I haven't reviewed the sources. KylieTastic (talk) 13:08, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  Hello, can you change the path of this artist to his real name, Javad Ramezani, thank you 83.122.117.88 (talk) 07:31, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

  Hi, sorry but as this request is from an ip address and not the creator account Javad (singer) I cannot be sure you are the creator. KylieTastic (talk) 09:39, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

  Hello, I am a producer myself, thank you Javad (singer) (talk) 11:27, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

  Hi Javad (singer), I went to move but have found the that the title "Javad Ramezani" is on the global title backlist so can only be created by an administrator, which I am not. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 11:57, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

It's off-topic, so...

You mentioned an RfA being tanked by "one bad accept" - genuinely curious who that was, as I don't remember that case. Primefac (talk) 16:22, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Primefac, I didn't mention who because I thought they probably didn't want to remember, not that they are active at AfC any more. It was Cassiopeia I was thinking of, which started with strong support then the oppose re Korapaak really seems to tip it into a kicking. Too be honest looking back there were other issues, but those that said Korapaak was "blatant spam", " obviously not ready for mainspace", etc but then took no action on the so damning article really ticked me off and that was all I remembered. As far as I'm concerned accepting a spam article in good faith as a miss judgement is so far less worrying that experienced editors and admins being aware of this "blatant spam" in main space and doing nothing about it. If I remember I looked at it and although would not have accepted, I could not see that it was obvious unless you were used to the Indian spam sourcing issues. There may have been enough other valid concerns that would have still failed the RfA, so maybe not tanked by "one bad accept", but it certainly felt that without that issue it would have at least been a more positive RfA. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:11, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

  Gotcha. Thanks. Primefac (talk) 17:27, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Polonia Warsaw (women's basketball)

Hello Kylie,

Hope you are well. Could you approved my article about womens basketball team? I have moved it from draft to article, however it does not show on Wikipedia. Could you help me in this matter?

Many thanks. Artur A3a2 (talk) 11:53, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hi A3a2 I see you have found were you moved it Polonia Warsaw (women's basketball) because you have edited it after posting this. However you say "my article" but it was actually created by Dada6 - if you are using multiple accounts don't it is likely to get both blocked (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry). Also note that all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). At the moment you do not have enough to show notability so it is at risk of being deleted, so I strongly suggest you add any other sources with significant coverage of the team to avoid this. Also most of the content is unsourced so anyone can delete any of the unsourced claims, so please add sources for where the information came form (see Wikipedia:Verifiability). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:36, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

  One explanation - me (Dada6) and A3a2 are two separate people :). We both know each other from Polish Wikipedia. Artur (A3a2) is a more advanced editor, so as there were reservations about my draft, I asked him to make improvements (add sources and expand it). Currently, the article is more extensive, which is why it is in fact A3a2's article :).

  Regards and thank (for you and for Artur) for help :). Dada6 (talk) 20:06, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

  Hi Dada6 thanks for the update and looking at your accounts in all language Wikipedias makes sense. Dziękuję KylieTastic (talk) 20:11, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

actually this is my personal inormation and everything is accurate

whatever i have write everything is right and accurate Vivek bali Politician (talk) 14:28, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

• Vivek bali Politician, Wikipedia is not for people to write about themselves and it's strong discouraged - See Wikipedia:Autobiography. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:33, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Draft: open flightmaps

Thanks a lot for taking the time to review my draft! I didn't expect my first ever article to just pass, more so because reliable references are usually printed aviation journals behind paywalls. I found one, but while open flightmaps is a topic in pilot hangouts, the general public and therefore news outlets don't care which map the plane or rescue pilot is using. I'm also in the Teahouse to nail down what similar accepted articles like OpenSeaMap do better than my draft. If you have a minute for a quick check to see whether I'm on the right track (or should better drop it), I would be very grateful. Cheers! Svoop (legit) (talk) 18:38, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Svoop (legit), glad to here you understand that writing articles is hard and did not get upset by an initial setback. Do note that although we prefer easy to access sources it is not a requirement. Paywalled sources if reliable sources are still valid, also some of us have access to some such resources via the Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library if they are available via any of these (although some are limited and require access requests). The issue of if it is a subject that can pass our notability guidelines is not easy to tell, but many subjects that are notable in there field but not to the 'general public' can still be definitely notable. Asking at the Teahouse is a good call, you'll gets lots of experienced editors see and hopefully answer. Next best place to find editors who can more easily help and judge if its worth pursuing is the relevant wikiprojects - I'd start with Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation (or one of the subprojects it lists on its main page). Hope that helps, Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:54, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

  I would be an awful pilot if I had a temper. :-) The Wikipedia Library is an awesome resource, however, I'm still hundreds of edits and half a year shy of being allowed in. Thanks for the hints! Svoop (legit) (talk) 19:05, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

American Championship Wrestling Page:

Miss Kylie:

What do you believe I could reference in my little article. We jan shows (which were prety good) and then I got shot. Then the funs stopped.... Saigon1968 (talk) 06:01, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Saigon1968 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Currently Draft:American Championship Wrestling has one source that does not even mention "American Championship Wrestling" or "ACW". I know nothing about Wrestling so can't help with any specifics but I can make some observations. Firstly there are 26 existing mentions of "American Championship Wrestling" which is good to show it has a possible need. However American Championship Wrestling has been deleted one, but that was in 2005 from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Championship Wrestling this discussion where there is a claim the organisation did not exist. However they state there were only "3,420 google hits" but now there are ~80,500. All you need is 3+ reliable independent sources tat talk about ECW in depth in that lot. However if this is about an organisation from 1998-2003 that is pre the deletion so is there another "American Championship Wrestling"? Because [https://www.cagematch.net/?id=8&nr=2855 this cagematch entry says 1988 - today. I hope that helps explain things and I would suggest asking for help/advice at the WikiProject Professional wrestling talk page. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 10:34, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi I'm just wondering what I need to do to make the dreamday article ready to be published? Limeisthebest123 (talk) 13:28, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Limeisthebest123 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) - However for this subject also see the criteria in WP:MUSICBIO. Many of the sources are primary (not independent) and also with several as wixsites just look like recently created. In fact things like this blog with 3 posts all in the last day I would say this is just created. KylieTastic (talk) 13:37, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

• Just realised it is a hoax just using stolen videos from real bands. So no this will never be published. KylieTastic (talk) 13:46, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

  Hi! If this is a hoax, I cannot really decipher as I just got requested to make the article so I did the best of my ability. I’m so sorry if this is not permitted to the rules that were given. All information came from the rightful agency and I couldn’t find much more and whomever requested this to be edited didn’t provide me any information.

  thank you for understanding Limeisthebest123 (talk) 13:54, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Twinkle

Hi KylieTastic! Quick question... I use Twinkle to welcome new users, and for some reason, the template you used here was removed from Twinkle for me, and I'm not 100% sure how to re-add it. Is this something you may be able to help me with? Thank you!!! SPF121188 ^{(talk this way) (my edits)} 21:55, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Spf121188, yup the same issue hit many of us that mostly appeared to be those that don't use Twinkle to welcome saying how those that do should :/ ... anyways you just need to go to Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences#welcome and in the section "Custom welcome templates to display" Edit items and add "W-graphical" with a description you want (I just have "Graphical Welcome") and save changes. You'll also need to make sure "Automatically sign custom welcome templates" is unticked to stop double signatures. Hope that makes sense, but I've got a fever so maybe tomorrow I'll realise I've written Wibble over and over :) Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:12, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Got it!! Thank you for the help, AND I hope you feel better soon! See you around! SPF121188 ^{(talk this way) (my edits)} 13:39, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

singer

Hello, why is Javad Ramezani full name not registered? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q115144096 2A01:5EC0:981A:8235:55A3:E8DF:BBDC:4398 (talk) 08:05, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hi, if you mean why is there no article Javad Rameza (or any draft Draft:Javad Rameza), it's because no one has written one and shown that they are notable. It's easy to create a new item on WikiData but that does not mean they are notable and as the WikiData item links to no articles and has no references it will probably be deleted. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:31, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

On Bolded Summary Phrases

Hi Kyletastic! Keen to get more feedback on my draft that was just recently rejected by you -- the Bolded Summary Phrase (link here) Karlpaulo (talk) 04:14, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Here: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Bolded_Summary_Phrase

I was able to cite the references correctly -- and this time i used the author's book as a reference point, so I assumed that it should be good now. Which is why i was also a bit surprised to find that it has been rejected again. Could you help me on this? Karlpaulo (talk) 04:15, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Karlpaulo all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So Wen-Szu own book is not independent and as amazon states it's "Independently published" I assume that means self published (WP:SELFPUB) which for Wikipedia is not a reliable source, unless they are know as an expert. The other source does not appear to mention the subject. Lastly on top of not showing notability the rest is unsourced and reads more like a how to than an encyclopedia article which is not what Wikipedia is for (WP:NOTHOWTO). Doing a google for "Bolded Summary Phrase" I get no hits apart from Wikipedia related and the book itself on google books which although is not definitive is a good sniff test for if a subject is likely to be notable. Hope that explains things. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:24, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt response, Kyle!

1/ Anvil Publishing is actually one of the biggest publishing houses in the Philippines. So the book isn't actually "independently published" as it was published by the said publishing house

2/ Given that the article is more of a how-to, would it be better if we move the draft to WikiHow instead? Karlpaulo (talk) 03:22, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Karlpaulo unless there are multi sources not picked up by google it is not yet notable enough for here, but as you note if you wish to keep the style then WikiHow is probably a better fit at least for now. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:01, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• At Wikidata, an interwiki link can now point to a redirect page if certain conditions are met. This new feature is called sitelinks to redirects. It is needed when one wiki uses one page to cover multiple concepts but another wiki uses more pages to cover the same concepts. Your feedback on the talkpage of the new proposed guideline is welcome. [23]
• The www.wikinews.org, www.wikiversity.org, and www.wikivoyage.org portal pages now use an automated update system. [24]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 November. It will be on all wikis from 17 November (calendar).
• There will be a new link to directly "Edit template data" on Template pages. [25]

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Withdrawal / request for deletion

Hello KylieTastic! After having searched unsuccessfully for more independent and reliable sources, I'd like to request the deletion of the open flightmaps draft at this point. I might create a new article once the open flightmap project has hopefully produced more verifiable headlines in aviation circles and publications, but as of now, it's not yet the case. Thanks a lot for your patience! Svoop (legit) (talk) 15:06, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Svoop (legit) I see you must have found the correct way to tag as it's already been deleted. Note that if/when more sources are available and you want to tray again you can either start from scratch or get this one un-deleted by just asking at WP:REFUND. Clear skies and happy flying, KylieTastic (talk) 15:52, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

New AFC reviewer

Hello, KylieTastic,

I was working through some drafts and came across an AFC reviewer I had not encounter before, Compusolus, so I checked to see if they are on the AFC roster. They are on a probationary list and I was just wondering if that meant that they were getting their reviews checked by more experienced reviewer. I'm not sure what is involved in a probation period or even who runs AFC these days.

Any way, the editor seems to have plunged into reviewing in a strong way, they accept less than 4% of drafts they review and leave very few comments. Here are their numbers. I know you always have a backlog of drafts to get through but I don't think ~150 declines over one week is helping much if the draft creators aren't getting much feedback to improve their articles. I usually go to DGG with these kinds of queries but he's been away for a while and you are the most active and accurate reviewer that I've come across so I'm coming to you. So, if you could look over this long list of denials or pass it along to someone who is helping lead AFC, well, that would be great. I know that there is a constant search for additional, adept reviewers but I think this editor might be a little too energetic and inexperienced right now to help draft creators move their work along to a possible approval. If I'm wrong, well, count me as being out of the loop with AFC acceptance percentages! As always, many thanks to you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:21, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Liz, it is not a name I had come by either and no there is no formal re-checking done as far as I'm aware. Primefac is the primary admin that oversees AfC and I assume when the probation period is up they do spot checks. For someone with just 2,043 edits 162 reviews is an enthusiastic start compared to many. I count 29 declines that have been deleted (18%) so my first guess is they are doing front of the queue checks which have a high decline/delete rate that would fit with 4% accepts. The current accept rate for the last month is ~16% which is a bit lower than normal but I have noticed more junk recently. I've had little time for anything but zero day junk checking so my accept rate for the month is only 3%. I checked the accepts and no issues there. I did a few spot checks and there are a number of unsourced, junk, promo declines which again is what I would expect from someone checking the front of the queue. The lack of anyone coming to question a review on their talk page, either submitters or others, also is a good sign. As for not many comments again that is more normal for front of the queue checking where much is junk and the decline templates should give the submitter the information they need on first review. I'm also not sure that I'm up there with the best reviewers and certainly DGG would be my first choice but others that are active that may have an opinion would be Theroadislong, Timtrent and S0091. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:01, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Found one issue: Draft:Charles A. Walton (Indiana) is not a good decline but FAs are a challenge to new reviewers - looks terrible but is notable and needs much improvement - I'll do some more checks when I find time. KylieTastic (talk) 10:05, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

For the record, if there are issues with a reviewer's reviews (probationary or otherwise) the first thing to do (if it's not blatantly problematic) is discuss it at WT:AFC so see what if anything needs changing. If it's a probationary reviewer doing clearly sub-standard work, they can be removed outright. Primefac (talk) 11:02, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

I will check some and keep an eye out but agree with KylieTastic's statements above in regards to decline/acceptance rates. My acceptance rate is usually single digit, even when working through older ones. And KylieTastic, you are one of the best reviewers so disagree there. :) S0091 (talk) 16:52, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Ok, I started from the bottom and reviewed declines through Draft:Lumina College (40 total) and the only one I question is Draft:EC (Eugene Clarence) Warriner (1866-1945), WP:PROF, was President of Central Michigan University. I think he meets #6 but I am weak with PROF so requesting a second opinion. With that said, some of the sources are poor so I could understand a WP:V decline but they declined due to notability. Eh, not horrible. Other than that, Compusolus declines were appropriate and they are using appropriate reasoning indicating they are actually reviewing the content. They do on occasion provide comments, though brief. However, comments are not required as generally the decline template should provide the most relevant information. S0091 (talk) 17:48, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

@KylieTastic Flattered to be asked. Just had a long day travelling back to the UK, so am rather frayed at the edges. I will have a look in a collegial manner, just not today. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:16, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Hey Timtrent no worries, looks like no real concern - but maybe just a bit of friendly advice on any issues will get us good new active reviewer. But rest is important after gallivanting around the world :) Have a good nights chilling. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:21, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

KylieTastic I've had a brief look. I'm not sure I see anything except the normal "getting up to speed" things, nothing that experience won't solve. I work on the basis that we still improve Wikipedia even if we make mistakes. Saw how you improved Walton. FA's material can be a real challenge. I always want to accept, but FA doesn't always give me enough to make it possible. I think they are productive but lazy! Even so I appreciate their huge additions of under-represented minority folk. You might argue that my initial decline of that draft was borderline, too! I am trying to encourage FA to add more flesh! 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:01, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Good, thanks all I think we have a conclusion. Timtrent when you declined it Charles A. Walton (Indiana) was in a particularly terrible state, I just gave up declining such ones because FA often would just assert notability and resubmit (as they did after the second decline). At least you got them to add the two decent sources, pity they can't be bother to use more of bios when they find them, but I guess without there work I would have never done most of my content creation. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:16, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

I think pushing things back to FA with "notes" works. Declining alone fails. If they used more of the material they find then we could argue to get their restriction lifted. I've formed a sort-of-relationship with them, and got them to work with me an creating an article in their field of interest. They seem unwilling to do more than slightly less than the bare minimum a lot of the time. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:03, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your review on Woohllahra Digital Literary Award

Hi, Thank you for your review on my first article. These awards for digital and electronic literature are important, but yes, the awards do stand alone and does not have many multiple references. Would it be ok to draft an article on ALL of the various literary awards, including the Electronic Literature Organization awards, the New Media Prize awards, etc. with a history of these types of awards? LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 19:49, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hi LoveElectronicLiterature there is already the article List of literary awards and normally to be on such lists a subject requires an article or a solid reference. However I note it has an edit notice that "please make certain that Wikipedia already has an article on the award or prize". The trouble is I guess that there are so many awards some are names know to millions all the way down to one that has no impact outside it local area. However I'm not the best editor to ask about list notability, it's still an area I find not clear on what is and what is not notable. There is the List of Australian literary awards which does appear to allow awards with no article but with a good reference. Other than that I would recommend asking at the Wikipedia:Teahouse where among the experienced editors and admins that answer, someone will be more able to give you clear advice. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:04, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello I was the one who made the Wikipedia for snoopy_gamer_2011

Can u please accept the Wikipedia article he is a big star in Portugal in a town. He always said he wanted a wiki article. I provided the twitter of snoopy gamer @snoopy_gamer11 please please consider accepting it he would be thrilled and everyone in the town that he lives in will be happy (I won’t say the town for obvious reasons but it’s in Lisbon) please respond via discord to me since I am new to Wikipedia and on mobile for the moment yayeet13#0070 Wish all the best Jerome Jeromezito69 (talk) 19:34, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

• Er No! Clearly not a "big star" with 2 followers and created this month. KylieTastic (talk) 19:38, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

  no no he created this account when i told him that he should make a twitter account (i didnt tell him about the wikipedia part tho cause i want to suprise him) and by big star i meant famous in a small town in lisbon not like a big star nationally btw he is planning to make a youtube channel so he can make more songs and maybe a music video Jeromezito69 (talk) 14:03, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

sou imaginario

hello kyletastic

I am jerome and i am going to talk to you from the heart and ask you what i would need to get sou imaginario on wikipedia, I wont lie I am quite new to wikipedia but i am willing to take time out of my day to make sou imaginario on wikipedia possible.

Since snoopy is a local singer/rapper he only has a few fans if you want i can send you details of the fans who can confirm everything. Since he is only know starting to try being a good rapper he is going to make better songs with proper beats and all of that in 2023. I understand that you think im wasting your time but i am not trying to waste anyones time, i am just trying to get this beloved local rapper his (although questionable) dream, By making this wikipedia article i am hoping for him to be motivated to follow his dream of being a rapper like his idols (eminem. jay z and kanye)

Please tell me what i need to do to get this page on wikipedia and I will

Jerome

P.S please dont say no just tell me what i need to do to make it work Jeromezito69 (talk) 09:51, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

• Jeromezito69 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So no there is nothing that could get this accepted. KylieTastic (talk) 10:06, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

  ok i will get some reliable sources soon and also write more information about him thank you Jeromezito69 (talk) 14:05, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Civility Barnstar
	For being civil in tough circumstances El Pettymars0193 (talk) 15:14, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks Pettymars0193, we have two guidelines that I believe are good not only for here but most of life - Wikipedia:Assume good faith and Wikipedia:Civility. Also the mistakes you made are perfectly normal for new users and we all make mistakes we just hope we learn and make less as we go along. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:30, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

  ok El Pettymars0193 (talk) 15:59, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Apologies

I did not intend for you to be involved any further with Hathchens and in hindsight a horrible suggestion on my part. S0091 (talk) 15:54, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hey S0091 no worries - I didn't really think what would be involved with checking NPP activity until I looked. I do with they would just take the results of the AfC checks as positive and go to ArbCom. The only thing that will help is if there is reasonable doubt on the off wiki evidence not any more checks. Oh well, it's in their hands now. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:07, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for reviewing my article The Unified Existence Hypothesis, and helping with references and format. That was very kind, really appreciated it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14C:8780:9873:ECE0:7259:D753:F268 (talk) 01:27, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Request on 20:17:13, 20 November 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Ythomas3

• Ythomas3 (talk · contribs)
  • User:Ythomas3/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

hello i dont understand why my article is approved when things i put are true and published i am a television actor thats been on several tv Shows for the past 5 years and im major recurring in television show BMF on starz network? so how are my sources not reliable?

Ythomas3 (talk) 20:17, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Ythomas3, all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) but also see WP:NACTOR. Many of the sources did not even appear to mention the subject let alone anything with significant coverage. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:31, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

A message

Hey, KylieTastic. I want to let you know that I have edited your Inanimate Insanity page. Taylor Grodin got fired since 2022. If you see the page. Just let me know. -TheWiki93 TheWiki93 (talk) 21:22, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hi TheWiki93 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Draft:Inanimate Insanity only has one reference and that just shows that the soundtrack exists leaving most unsourced and nothing to show notability. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 21:37, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Seriously?

I already forwarded an article and why dismiss it? I literally changed the name just so that it will be accepted. I know, but it I really made that article and that is UNRELATED to an article you were saying it was related to. Please allow my article, there is nothing wrong with it.

Article: Zadok (Biblical Figure)

Related to (Alleged) Zadok (Priest) Edward Zeke Rivera (talk) 14:13, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Edward Zeke Rivera I'm not sure how just adding "Biblical Figure" is supposed to make it clear that it is not the same as Zadok which is about the "biblically recorded" figure. Draft:Zadok (Biblical Figure) links to the Genealogy of Jesus that lists Zadok as a descendent of Eleazar, which is what Zadok says "biblically recorded to be a descendant from Eleazar". Are there two different Zadok's descendents from two different Eleazar's in the bible? I see there is actually Eleazar and List_of_minor_New_Testament_figures#Eleazar,_son_of_Eliud so maybe. If these are different then mentioning on your article no to be confused with... would be sensible. However a bigger issue is the article is unsourced. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). If there had been sources to verify then maybe the confusion would have been clarified. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:55, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

I will just make another article THAT IS NOT DOPPELGANGER ARTICLE. Edward Zeke Rivera (talk) 18:00, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Formatting

Hello, I was just wondering about the John Doe* formatting. What does it mean? FloridaArmy (talk) 19:16, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hey FloridaArmy took me a momnet to wonder what you meant - I assume you mean on [[27]] - there is a note at the top of the section - it was to differentiate between those actually serving in the reconstruction era and those post up to 1900. Would it be clearer to list the post 1877-1900 after the actual in era legislatures? Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:21, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Well, we've grouped them in there together. I don't think we need to distinguish. We give the dates. The whole concept of a Reconstruction era is historical and a grouping. We could certainly separate out and do post-reconstruction separately but it's all sort of erbitrary. It's definitely interesting that most served post-reconstruction as that runs counter to what most of is were taught. I find the italics and footnotish formatting distracting especially since there is no footnote. Maybe we can post this discussion to talk page for posterity and to see what others think? FloridaArmy (talk) 19:46, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

FloridaArmy that's partly why I added it as I found it odd how many post-era there actually were and as you say it worked in making that information clearer as I had missed it before as well. The Members of the Mississippi House of Representatives was the first one I did - but just italics. If having it as a footnote rather than a top note helps that's an easy change. The reason I choose inline markup was because I thought for those that care its easy to see and for those that don't easy to ignore... but clearly that not how all see it. One issue is the concept of reconstruction does differ from state to state, so it makes more sense for some than others. I did even wonder if these would be better as tables with name, dob-dod, when served, area represented, served in 1865-77 period, other positions & key info? Happy to have a talk page discussion somewhere, not sure where would pick up the most eyes though. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:12, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Hi Kylie, Thanks for your recent visit to submission of an article. Thanks for your spontaneity. Regards, Global Woman12 GlobalWoman12 (talk) 16:08, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you!!

Hey KylieTastic, thank you for hopping to my defense at WT:AFC, but also for helping figure out the issue with the remaining unsigned posts on my talk page. When I've tried to take care of it before, they never seemed to archive, so hopefully I'm on the right track now! Bkissin (talk) 17:00, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Bkissin your welcome. Looking at that editors history it's not the first time they have escalated with one admin comment "you are being unnecessarily inflammatory" or another "a lot of your recent comments (to them, and elsewhere on similar topics) to be heated bordering on inflammatory". They appear to have got in more heated exchanges in five months than I have in my 9+ years. As for the comment archiving, yup it's a pain with those bots sometimes, happy to help and give you a nice clean(er) page. When I became a bit stressed by all the talk page comments I just swapped to a lot of copy-paste answers and reduced by archive time to 7 days, helps keep the crap at bay. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:02, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

  Yeah, I don't know what it is about some people treating this like SRS business or power-tripping about the amount of pull they have. At the end of the day, it's just a website. I think keeping my mouth shut keeps me out of trouble too, lol!

  Thanks! I'll have to craft some diplomatically-worded copy-pastes for the users whose articles have no chance of ever being accepted (PAID, UPE, etc.) without casting aspersions. If you have any suggestions about wording, I'd be open to hearing them. Bkissin (talk) 01:21, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

  Hey Bkissin, I have one for all those that ask for a re-review "sorry but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Regards ~~~~" and for those that don't read the notices and just ask "why you decline?" (with no nuance) I have "all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS), Regards ~~~~" - basically the same as the decline notices but oddly still gets a number of thanks. Add a Hi {{u|whoever}} at the front and that covers 80% of questions, and I think the majority of the rest that deserve an answer you already do, and the rest.. well no answer is often the best. I see the archive bot still didn't like the other old messages, must be an odd character or something so usually this is the point to give up and do a manual cut-paste archive. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:31, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Request on 05:30:41, 30 November 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Rajmohanaushik

• Rajmohanaushik (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Panipat Institute of Engineering and Technology- PIET (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Please Tell me How to make a new page on Wikipedia Rajmohanaushik (talk) 05:30, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Rajmohanaushik see Help:Your first article. However also note that all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Lastly you can't copy copyrighted material and use directly like you did on Draft:Panipat Institute of Engineering and Technology- PIET. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 10:19, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

User:Nemanja1984/sandbox

Hi KylieTastic,

I saw You declined publishing request for a page representing my company - can You please share some insight what is wrong? I found number of other companies on wikipedia and did not made any offensive or invalid content.

Thanks in advance,

Nemanja Nemanja1984 (talk) 21:00, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Nemanja1984 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You have no sources just the companies own website. Also phrasing like "Our vision", "Our values" and "Our mission" make it clear this is advertising from a source with a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. KylieTastic (talk) 21:19, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

review

how long does it take to review an article Raqshit (talk) 11:45, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

• Raqshit since you removed the submission template with your last edit it will not be reviewed - also it is unsourced. KylieTastic (talk) 12:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

  i deleted the template by mistake, please help me out, i thought the review will run in the background. Raqshit (talk) 12:14, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

  and the information is unsourced because the content was written in house by my writers. Raqshit (talk) 12:15, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

  Raqshit in that case please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest first. Wikipedia is not a place for subjects to write about themselves, it is an encyclopedia of notable subjects with neutral referenced content. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:49, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Jonathan D. Tan

Hi! I have improved the article. I forgot some important details that should be put there, my bad I immediately submitted it. Please check it again if you would. The requestor really want it be available soon as President Marcos will appoint this person to a certain position on January. I think they want people to know more about Mayor Jonathan. EBPCarpio (talk) 15:49, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

• Hi EBPCarpio from your statement "The requestor really want it" please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and WP:DISCLOSE. Secondly to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Note that facebook is very rarely a reliable source, also being a mayor is also rarely notable on its own so you require significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources to show notability. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 16:07, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks! Hope someone finally approves it. I'll continue improving the article. This is my first time submitting drafts to be reviewed. I often create pages and directly publish it publicly before. EBPCarpio (talk) 16:13, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

• EBPCarpio when you have a link to a subject per WP:COIEDIT going via AfC is the correct thing to do. If you can find replacement sources for the facebook links that would help and any other significant coverage other than the boat incident would so help. Coverage of things they have done/achieved as mayor would be good. Unfortunately the backlog is growing a bit quicker these days as there are not as many reviewers just now for some reason (including myself doing 10% of my normal amount) but while still in day one of submission it's likely to be seen by several reviewers. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:36, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks for the advice. EBPCarpio (talk) 16:41, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

i need help!!

I need help createing an artical for dutton michigan i have done tones of reasherch but it keeps getting rejected please HELP!!! Kenny 1111 (talk) 22:10, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

• Hi Kenny 1111, writing articles from scratch is considered by many the hardest thing you can do so don't stress. You say "keeps getting rejected" but I only see the single decline on your talk page? The main point to know is that all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Per WP:GEOLAND "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable" but you need sources to show that the place exists, is legally recognized, and some basic information with sources. User:Kenny 1111/sandbox currently has one short sentence and no sources. See what sources and other information you can find and add, also note that the Wikipedia:Teahouse is there to help new editors. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 23:08, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Page rejected!! There are not enough sources on the internet itself

For my page "Bhikbali", there are not enough sources from the internet to source. The wiki page itself will be the biggest source of the topic in the future, which I am trying to create. The draft is still being cited and redrafted by me. But the lack of internet sources will be permanent! Indiancitizen221 (talk) 18:28, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Happened to see this: @Indiancitizen221, if there are not enough sources, that might be an indication that the subject does not meet the notability guidelines. Wikipedia is not meant to serve as a primary source, which is what you are describing your draft as. Heavy Water (talk) 18:51, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Indiancitizen221 as Heavy Water said you appear to misundertand the point of Wikipedia. Wikipedia is never the primary source, all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:14, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2023!

Hello KylieTastic, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2023. Happy editing, Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 21:26, 21 December 2022 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Seasons Greetings

Whatever you celebrate at this time of year, whether it's Christmas or some other festival, I hope you and those close to you have a happy, restful time! Have fun, Donner60 (talk) 00:16, 23 December 2022 (UTC)}}

Donner60 (talk) 23:52, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Request to remove harassment links.

Hey Kylie, may I change the Ryuji Sato wiki so that I can remove the external links for the actual person's account? Chongkian is promoting harassment so I want to remove the link 119.56.100.220 (talk) 04:15, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

• Hi 119.56.100.220, Chongkian is correct that is a allowable per WP:INSTAGRAM if they have "no other Web presence". If there is a more suitable external link that is not social please suggest it on the article talk page, or you will have to get consensus to remove it and again best place is probably the article talk page. You could have also approached Chongkian with your concern. Although I don't see that the Instagram account with 2 posts has any Encyclopedic value and considering the vandalism and abuse I personally would have chosen not to include. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:03, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Hi KylieTastic, wishing you a safe and happy New Year! S0091 (talk) 19:46, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

• Hey S0091, thanks and I hope you too have a great 2023! KylieTastic (talk) 19:48, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Sin Gyeongsuk / Shin Kyeongsuk

Hi Kylie!

Can you have a look at the article Sin Gyeongsuk - Wikipedia? @Spacestationtrustfund has been moving Korean authors' pages without previous discussion (as @Adumbrativus ) mentioned in their talk page and actually going against Korean naming conventions . As seen in interviews with the author and the cover of all her books, she does not use that spelling but Shin Kyung-sook (see, for example, interview in the Asia Literary Review). Suzusan (talk) 15:31, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi, again, and sorry to botheryou, I do editings and revisions but this is beyond my expertise. This user @Spacestationtrustfund has been systematically moving Korean author pages to spellings following a certain romanization. These are living authors who publish internationally with a certain name which does not follow that romanization. After a couple of hours, I already have a list of ten or more authors. I have enough references to prove which is their preferred or usual spelling in English, but I don't want to engage in a moving war plus I'm afraid I will still miss other moves for lesser known authors. What can be done? Can all the incorrect moving be undone at the same time? Can a user be blocked from moving? He completely ignored @Adumbrativus advice on this. Suzusan (talk) 16:35, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Hey Suzusan, sorry it's Friday night and I have a drink and dinner cooking so not got much time... also Korean name romanization is not an area I'm familiar with. I would suggest you bring this up in a more global forum to get a consensus such as Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea or the Wikipedia:Help desk. To answer your other points, yes if this is deemed wrong then it can and should be all be undone and yes if there is a wider issue the user may be blocked if they continue against consensus. I would say I would look closer over the weekend but I think it's an area that having some expertise in the area would help. Cheers and have a happy new year KylieTastic (talk) 19:14, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Kylie!

I'll try to follow your advice. Some of it has been up since July, so it will survive another week for sure. I hope the dinner was great. Happy New Year! Suzusan (talk) 12:54, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

User talk:KylieTastic/Archive 2022

I got a notification that a section I was subscribed to was removed from the archive page, which was weird. Then I discovered that, while it is still in the page markup, it (along with some other sections) is not in the rendered page. It looks like the problem is here:

* Hi {{u|Marianampsouza}} I declined [[Draft:Process-based therapy]] back on 23 January 2022‎ as it was blank, it has been changed, re-submitted and reviewed by 4 others since, lastly by {{u|Slywriter} yesterday. They obviously also made a mistake/typo linking to [[Extended Evolutionary Meta Model (EEMM)]] that does not exist, so you may like to ask them what they meant. It's not really my subject area and I'm not editing much at the moment but I do try to answer all questions here. However we have the [[Wikipedia:Teahouse]] which is for new editors to ask such questions, especially any general editing questions, and the benefit of asking there is many experienced editors answer questions so you get lots more help that asking an individual. Regards [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic#top|talk]]) 19:26, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Note the missing closing brace in {{u|Slywriter}; this is also where the rendered page starts displaying gibberish. I don’t know why such an old comment is suddenly causing problems, though. Brianjd (talk) 13:15, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Brianjd, fixed - thanks for pointing that out. Happy New Year, KylieTastic (talk) 13:53, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, KylieTastic!

Happy New Year!

KylieTastic,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Abishe (talk) 20:41, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

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Abishe (talk) 20:41, 31 December 2022 (UTC)