Knowledge Incarnate

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Serious editing issues and general discussion occurs on this page. Feel free to speak your mind. You can add whatever you like, but I will archive whatever I find totally inappropriate. Below are some sample discussions and the sort of response you can expect from me so you are not caught by surprise.

(Please click here (WP) and click here (W3). — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 06:58, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Example Discussions

But why? Why did you tell the admins about my photo-shopped picture? -Random IP

• Because even though I thought it was funny and got some Lulz, I also have a profound respect for Truth and actual Knowledge. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 23:57, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Jiligualgoogigity bibble babble!

• Ha ha. You just wasted 5 seconds of life. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk)

You are a ___.

• I have deleted / archived the remainder of your discussion. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk)

IC: Perelan dismounts his black steed, brandishing the Sword of Sir Glyph still covered in the blood of a Grue, "Is there a tavern around here?"

• OCC: WIKI-RP has moved. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 23:57, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD

Hi, I noticed that you recently gave your vote on the AfD on List of United States presidents by handedness. The article has since then undergone significant changes. This is not an attempt at canvassing, but I would like to ask you to take a second look at the article, to decide if you wish to reconsider your position. Many thanks! Lampman (talk) 14:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey thanks Lampman. I will go check it out. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 18:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

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WIKI-RP?

Is this still up? What do I need to know? TREKphiler ^{hit me ♠} 10:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I found the elves somewhere & stole 'em. ;D (Wish I could tell you who from; I wasn't really watching.) TREKphiler ^{hit me ♠} 20:44, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

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HELP RAJA1020!

HEY KNOWL, at the first of the month u responded to a guy named shovon on my talk page. what was then a small argument has now turned into a full scale cyber-war that i didnt want to happen. He wont leave me alone so I tried talking to him about it, that didnt work so I tried do NOT talk to him and that hasnt worked i tried reporting him to the administrators but nothing happened. Im seriousy thinking about quitting wikipedia if this is going to happen every time i try to contribute. what should I do??Raja1020 (talk) 15:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

• You should definately start quoting Wiki-rules to him. That always works. Or you can blog about your problems and brood about how unfair the world can be. One of those. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 18:20, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah! Typo Error! "definitely" is the correct spelling!

Join the Typo Team!!! Is ^"zhe_liel" me? 09:24, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Wiki RP

Hi there, I realized about this game of yours while browsing thorugh Wikipedia, and I think that it is a rather good idea. I would be interested in joining in your "great cause for the truth and honour", and hopefully that you, as the DM, would allow me to enter you mini game. All the best, Zheliel (talk) 04:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh and by the way, what should I link Wiki RP to when introducing it to others? Your RP subpage or Your user page? Zheliel (talk) 04:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

• Hail Zheliel! Link to the Your RP subpage please or the all-seeing mods will mercilessly smite down your page.

And, yes. I have two things to tell you.

• Please, put 4 tiles at the end of talk pages. Thanks! :)
• My player's called Knowl Jr.! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zheliel (talk • contribs) 12:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot to ask. I don't really understand the points system. Could you elaborate on it and make it clearer please? Thanks!Zheliel (talk) 14:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)•_•

• • • Ha ha! Cute, Knowl Jr. Allright then. The points work like this: Goto your watch page and add up all the numbers of characters you have either entered or deleted. That is your EXP. The EXP chart linked should give you a good idea about what level of a Wikipedian you are. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 04:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I still don't understand how to count? Why don't you take the total amount of edits and multiply by 99? It would certainly be easier :). 13:45, 6 January 2009 (UTC) Zheliel (talk) 13:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, well. I found out how to find the number of words edited. {{NUMBEROFEDITS}} will be constantly updated. Zhelⁱel 11:08, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to tell you - I'm retiring from wikipedia. I know you all will miss me. Or maybe not. But bye anyway! Zheliel^{Me | you | us | RP} 09:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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• • • Sure, but would that reflect your actual effort? No, it wouldn't.

Erm... SineBot is actually a bot, so it's useless to talk to one. 09:28, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Signature

Hi Knowl, just asking, how do you edit your signaure like the "I am questing for knowledge"? Thanks for the info.Zheliel (talk) 07:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Wait... I got a new signature! Is this me? 09:13, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Richard Spratley

Hi, I've been researching Richard Spratly too and found your article quite helpful. However, I am deeply sceptical about whether the Richard Spratly who was master of the Cyrus is the same Richard Spratly who was a butcher in Chesham. Many of the dates simply don't add up. The crucial one for me would be 1851 where the census records him working as a butcher in Chesham while on 11 April 1851 he writes a letter to the Nautical Magazine from the South Sea. If he was born in 1811, is it likely that he was captain of the Cyrus by 1834 - when he was just 23 years old? I think a much better candidate for our Richard Spratly was one born in 1802 in Poplar who died in Brentwood in 1870. in 1861 the census records him as being master of the Atalante, though not living abroad. What evidence do you have that ties the master of the Cyrus to the butcher's shop in Chesham? --Billthesceptic (talk) 09:23, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

What type of help do you need with the references? ttonyb1 (talk) 23:58, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I just read the rest of your message, see what I did to the 1st and 2nd reference. Now all you have to do is change the rest. Good luck... ttonyb1 (talk) 00:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I think you have a misplaced ">" . ttonyb1 (talk) 00:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I think I have the references in working order now. Much obliged. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 00:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

You are very welcome. Nice intro and I like the way you made the article about the person and not only about the islands. It now matches the title of the article. Enjoy... ttonyb1 (talk) 02:14, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I much enjoyed the article on Richard Spratly and was interested in his connections with Chesham which I have been working on for some time. I had a quick look at the 1841 1851 and 1861 censuses for the town which features at least two if not three generations of Spratleys with the name Richard who are a family of butchers. The most likely contender was a Richard Spratley born in 1811 who was in the town in 1841 and 1851 and in 1861 was married to Fanny. Could this be him as he appears to have been in England on these dates, or was our hero elsewhere being a captain by then?Tmol42 (talk) 18:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

• Many thanks! I'm glad I didn't write this all for nothing, eh? ;-) These dates defiantly match the times he would have been in the area. In 1841 he did return to port. I have no information beyond 1838-1844 on either side. I would venture that there is a 99% chance this is our man! Could you send me a link or scan of your reference?

In 1841 the three Richard Spratleys were living together in the High St in Chesham. In turn they were recorded as born approx in 1778 (father a Butcher ), 1806(son a Butcher), and 1832( a nephew of 1806 Richard). NB ages were normally rounded to the nearest 5. So in 1807 it would have been the father you found. The source for this was Ancestry.co.uk which is a subscription site but the census record Source Citation is: Class: HO107; Piece 47; Book: 4; Civil Parish: Chesham; County: Buckinghamshire; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 11; Page: 17; Line: 16; In 1851 Richard S born 1811 was living with his brother William a Butcher and mother Martha ( now a widow ) and nephey Richard in the High St. In 1861 Richard is recorded as age 50 and married to Fanny and a butcher in a yard off the High St. NB none of the references to the name spell it as Spratly though. Hope this helpsTmol42 (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I found a death registration entry for Richard Spratley Born 1808 died June qtr 1866 Amersham District ( which would include Chesham). This would tie in with his last appearance in the 1861 censusTmol42 (talk) 00:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

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RP introduction page

Hi Knowl; I have just created a cute page introducing RP.

You can post it by posting {{User:zheliel/Wiki RP}} onto a discussion page.

It looks like this:

) Zhelⁱel 11:46, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Glad to introduce more new people :)

anyway I created a new template. You can edit it if you want.

{{User:Zheliel/Wiki RP2}}

Cheers! ^Sign Zhe^*liel ^Talk 12:11, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

You CANNOT advertise this anywhere except your own page and certainly cannot say MMO RPG. It is NOT an MMO. Its simply for the sake of levity and such.

-Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 19:16, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Bemused and Bewildered

Can't say I don't like this idea of turning ones editing experiences into points and gaining levels through the process... but honestly, I need some help here. I just added my name to the list of players playing Wiki RP. What happens next? How do I keep track of how many experience points I gain?? How do I ascend levels and get to know which level I'm playing in at the moment?? I've never played MMORPG's, by the way.. Please illuminate me..!! La Alquimista 17:56, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

First off, its not serious. Relax. Check the source code. There is a command that calculate exp for you. Also, click the link next to "level" and you'll find a reference sheet. You can set up your user page exactly like mine or do it your own way. Just have fun. There is also a like to the rules if you click on the WIKI-RP box link. Just so you know, I do not spend any serious amount of time on this. Probably like one minute per week.

Source code?? Where? Where? La Alquimista 08:11, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

You know, when you are editing a page. Like this:

Level 24 Wikipedian [http://www.monkeysushi.net/gaming/DnD/XP%20table.html REF] $: 3c 0s 0g Experience Points: '''{{NUMBEROFEDITS}}''' (Based on contribution watch list scoring)

Have fun! -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 08:16, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah... I get it now. Me being stupid as usual. Thanks a ton though. La Alquimista 16:43, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

One Last Question

The number of experience points depends on the number of edits of a user, right?? So, how come you are level 24, given that you've got only 538 edits under your sleeve?? Neck deep in confusion here. Sorry for being such a bother... La Alquimista 06:26, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Its actually based on the number of characters you have either added or removed. Next to each edit in your watchlist is a green or red number indicating removal or addition of information. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 07:17, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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All's Well that Ends Well??

So Wiki RP was a hoax? Or are we still allowed to play it/ maintain our logs as long as we don't take it too seriously or advertise it as a MMO?? Surely the thing isn't going to be over this soon? I was sorta starting to enjoy it..... La Alquimista 11:56, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Its not a REAL game. It was a joke format for the user page. As long as you stick to the pre-made Wiki-RP boxes I think you can still use it.

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Re:Catholic Dispute

Here in the U.K., it's also known by most people as the Roman Catholic Church. But I have recently learned that this term is discouraged by the Church's hierarchy because that prefix only applies to the Diocese of Rome, and also because of the fact that the Latin (or Western) Rite is now found all around the world and not exclusively in former Roman territories. —Preceding unsigned comment added by T.M.M. Dowd (talk • contribs) 21:43, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Really? This is the first I've heard of this. Who is your source? I suppose in that light it does make some sense however. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 21:45, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Well according to the wikipedia article on the Catholic Church, which I suggest is renamed Catholic Church, you can see that it is officially known as the Catholic Church. —Preceding unsigned comment added by T.M.M. Dowd (talk • contribs) 20:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Wow, that is actually a really well referenced defense. Well done! Next time just link to the note. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 02:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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Actually, I was going from a source in old Rabbinic Scriptures, but you're right. I should have referenced that a little better. And whoever deleted the first source should note WHY or it could be mistaken for vandalism. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 16:11, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

If you're referencing the Kabbalah (as seems likely), you probably should specify that. I suspect that's the only old Jewish works which have large specific numbers other than counts. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

And those numbers which I removed were 3-digit numbers, rather than the 4-digit numbers I'm referring to here. In any case, a source for the significance of your source would need to be added. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:22, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah ha! I see what you are referring to now. No, those formulas were not self-published. Those were formulas that someone else discovered and published elsewhere online.

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