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That makes perfect sense, thanks for your response. I have tagged it for deletion and when I have time, I can add Turqoise Lake info to the Lake County article in the future. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies19:52, 19 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
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I've been travelling, and missed your comment. I'll see what I can do about single digit weeks. I just concatenate year and week to make the comment, and if they leave off the leading 0 on a single digit week, it screws up.—Kww(talk) 15:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
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I'm going to stick my neck out here, and argue that User:Neptunekh2's addition of the same questions on the talk pages of multiple editors is not vandalism. Rather, I believe that this is a new user with legitimate questions who doesn't understand that they shouldn't just leave the same message at the location of random editors/admins, just because they need help. I think a far better approach is to clearly explain the problem to the editor, which I'm about to do. I reverted your Twinkling at User Talk: Elen of the Roads, but I think you may want to consider undoing the rest yourself, and probably striking out your warnings on User Talk:Neptunekh2. If you have some reason to believe these really are vandalism, please let me know (you can reply here, I'll watch your page). Qwyrxian (talk) 04:47, 31 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
You are absolutely correct. I misread "the signs". Since each of the users had a previous history with Neptunekh2, I managed to convince myself she was trying to make a statement of some sort, instead of seeing it as someone reaching out the "closest" other users she could find. Thanks for your help with this, I appreciate it! Unless it's far more obvious, if something similar should happen in the future, I'll merely ask for clarification. : ) – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies06:38, 31 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
I'm sorry, I didn't realize WP:PRECISION was governed by opinion and who's song was a "bigger hit". I would've appreciated it if you had discussed your plans to revert with me first after I spent half an hour changing every link on every STP article today. Let me point out two observations here. One: "Concise titles are generally preferred." (Excerpted from WP:PRECISION.) Two: Creep (song) is a pointless redirect. Nothing links to it (excluding a very small number of user talk pages). No one is going to do a search for "Creep (song)". So some article should go there, it doesn't matter which. "Bigger hit" or not, which is—no offense—the most ridiculous argument I've heard. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies06:46, 1 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Okay, according to WP:SONG, If there is more than one song article with a title then disambiguate by putting the artist name in the title to make '<song name> (<artist name> song)', for example "Because (The Beatles song)". Boom, solid argument, resolved. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies07:06, 1 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
I'm pretty busy as it is, unfortunately, but you should feel free to make any edits or additions to the article if you think they are necessary. And yes, the reference you provided is reliable. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies07:17, 3 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
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I should let you know that have ADD and Obsessive–compulsive disorder. But my intentions are good. I'm not sure how to add a reference. I'm sorry if I cause trouble. Neptunekh2 (talk) 07:46, 3 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Simple way to add a reference. Use <ref></ref> tags
Elen of the Roads is an administrator on the English Wikipedia.<ref>[http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&limit=1&username=Elen+of+the+Roads Special:List Users entry for Elen of the Roads]</ref> Note the link format [http://mysite.com Elen of the Roads at Mysite.com] - single [ and there must be a space after the end of the website url.
If you were citing a printed magazine, you could use <ref>Hello Magazine, 16.9.2010 Why I love Wikipedia - interview with Elen of the Roads <ref>.
Here's how these would look in the article.
Elen of the Roads is an administrator on the English Wikipedia.[1] She loves Wikipedia.[2] References
I saw this here, so I thought I'd answer. No, you can't upload anything from either site, because you don't hold the copyrights to those photos, and they don't appear to be "free" (that is, public domain, CC-SA-BY, etc.). For living people, only free photos may be used in almost all cases. While it's nice to have photos of people on pages, we can't add them unless we can get ones in public domain. Qwyrxian (talk) 04:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Per your comments at the Help Desk — there are two ways that I'd suggest to get only some versions of a file deleted. You could place a speedy tag with a rationale of something such as {{db|for reasons discussed on the talk page}} and then explain on the talk page what needs to be deleted and why. Alternately, you could post a request at WP:AN, since most of its readers could help you immediately. Nyttend13:39, 8 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Ah, either choice is perfect. I wasn't sure if I could use the speedy tag or not, but I forgot I could explain it clearly in the rationale. Thank you so much! – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies18:40, 8 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
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I am sorry you got no response on the editor assistance noticeboard to your Avril Lavigne inquiry. I try to respond to any otherwise unanswered queries there, but I know nothing about Wikipedia books--did not even know that existed. If you want, I can take a look at the talk page though and see what's going on. Jonathanwallace (talk) 13:07, 10 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Hi Jonathanwallace, thank you for your message. It's really not a problem, though. There're more important things on Wikipedia to worry about; if I run into the same problem in the future, I'll be sure to ask for assistance again : ) – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies18:55, 10 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
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I'm so glad that piece was useful to somebody!
However, I'm afraid it won't clarify money in Monte Cristo very much, since that story is set after the Revolution and the introduction of decimal francs.Solicitr (talk) 04:41, 22 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
That's quite all right, I finished Monte Cristo a few days ago and am on T3M right now, but thank you for clarifying the difference! – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies05:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Awesome, thanks Chzz. The template should work, no matter what. I've tagged both redirects and redirects-from-Commons many times in the last couple weeks. : ) – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies20:52, 28 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Hmm, I added a category to this redirect, suggested at the discussion, and that doesn't appear either. A detail that may or may not help solve the bug issue. - Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies22:21, 28 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Changed. Ahh, I get it. Main namespace would exclude files. I'll use G6 and R3 from now on, then (I use R3 for file redirects named, e.g., mountain143118274.jpg—once moved to a proper file name). Thanks for clearing that up for me! – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies00:52, 29 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Hey Chzz, yes! Thank you! That was quite thorough, but everything is completed. I noticed earlier that the original redirect was "deleted" but it still remained (odd), but now everything is situated properly. Should the bug remain in the near future, I'll simply put in an admin request here on my talk page, like we did at the beginning of this discussion. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies02:54, 29 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
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{{help me-helped}} These images transcluded from Commons—[3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]—were tagged G6 by Sfan00 IMG (talk·contribs) without any explanation in the edit summary. On his talk page are several discussions asking why he's doing this, but I have yet to see a solid argument or a mention of an actual guideline (or even policy) stating that transcluded images cannot or should not be categorized. It is in this discussion where he explains that it is because these images are being categorized that he is tagging them for deletion.
I categorized the above six images last night. But I don't see what the point is of tagging these transclusions G6, when one could simply remove the category, either by HotCat or through the edit window. If categorizing these images is wrong, then it's my error, and I will gladly remove the categories. I would simply like to see where on Wikipedia it mentioned this. Am I also wrong in removing the G6 tags? The whole thing seems just a tad overkill. Any advice would be appreciated! – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies20:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Yes, you were wrong in categorizing them and in removing the G6 speedy delete tags. See, the image is hosted on the Commons and should be categorized there (and feel free to add more appropriate categories there if you'd like). It's then transparently displayed over here. It's like an apple sitting on a table. Those of us standing outside can look in through a window and see the apple. You walked up to the window and started writing on the window, when you really want to go inside and write a message next to the real apple. This is because a lot of things are mirrored on the different language Wikipedia's and some of the other Wikimedia sister projects. Hosting image files on the Commons instead of here on Wikipedia allows those images to be uploaded once then used in any of those projects. That being said, we only move really free and available images to the Commons, as the rules for "fair use" vary country by country and just because it's ok here doesn't mean that it's ok everywhere in the world, so fair use images are uploaded here because we know they're ok here. Other projects and languages might upload the fair images themselves, but there isn't a central repository of non-free images. If you'd like any further help, contact me on my user talk page or put a {{help me}} template up on your own user talk page and someone will be along to help you. :) Banaticus (talk) 20:22, 30 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
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{{helpme-helped}} From what I understand from the above discussion, transcluded images should not be categorized within Wikipedia. Along with the six images mentioned above, I went ahead and tagged two more files G6 ([9] and [10]). But then I came across File:Church_Heart_of_the_Andes.jpg, which was already categorized through a DYK template placed by a DYK bot. So what do I do now? Do I merely remove the category I placed last night? Or should I tag the page G6 and then the bot will automatically replace the DYK template in the near future? – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies21:09, 30 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
That's a good question. I believe those types of bot edits for DYK or Featured Articles (things that appear on the Wikipedia main page) are rare exceptions to the general rule, but I could be wrong -- I'll let someone else answer that who knows more about it. :)
Well, according to our discussion on your talk page, the bot created the window. So it was already there. I suppose in that case, I'll simply remove the category, but the history won't be deleted. I'll keep this up should someone else come along and have a better answer. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies21:27, 30 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
I have been working on deleting images under category F8, where a copy exists on the Commons and we are deleting the local copy. In those circumstances, if the item is a featured media, we still delete the local copy, and then re-add the Featured Media template, which then is added even though we no longer have a copy here locally. For example, I deleted the local copy of File:Maple Leaf Rag - played by Scott Joplin 1916 sample.ogg. The instructions in this instance then call for us to re-create the local file with the featured-media template. This kind of sits on top of the Commons copy when we are viewing it from Wikipedia, but the image (or sound file, in this case) is no longer at that location. So if the only thing present on your local copy is a category, the local copy should be deleted. But in the example File:Church_Heart_of_the_Andes.jpg, the local copy needs to stay, but the category should be removed. --Diannaa(Talk)21:39, 30 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
This one says "create" rather than "edit" so it no longer exists on this wiki. Please use F8 if the actual image is still there, and G6 if there is a semi-empty file that needs removing. --Diannaa(Talk)23:10, 30 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Interesting how deep all this goes. I was using Friendly's tab feature, so I wasn't seeing the "Create this page" tab—I've now removed this part of Friendly. This is case closed, thanks so much for your help. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies00:27, 31 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Yes, that is part of what makes Wikipedia such an engrossing pastime: there is so much to explore. See you around. Regards, --Diannaa(Talk)01:57, 31 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Thanks so much! Still a work in progress. If you have any ideas to better organize it, feel free to change it up. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies20:55, 31 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
And thanks for adding images! This was definitely a sorely missing piece to Church's overall exposure here. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies23:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
You're welcome, happy to help. I knew a fellow who wrote a book on the luminists, and I've always admired Church's work. Really glad you gave it the showcase it deserves. MarmadukePercy (talk) 23:27, 31 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
How would it look with the base? The new image looks great! You missed a spot though, on the left dog. I left the message on the page of the project. Thank you very much for your great work. Gryffindor (talk) 20:18, 9 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for catching that. As for the base, I personally don't like it, but here is a quick rendition of what it would look like: [12]. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies01:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
It became a lower priority, hence the delay, but here's the image with base. I ended up preferring it over the black background because I realized that the reflections and lighting on the actual wine cooler look odd if it's just floating in air. However, the base itself looked strange without the floor. So the end result is a nice fade into black. It looks like it was lit like this when photographed. It's an option! – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies08:06, 11 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
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It's great to see another new face working with us on Photographic Lab tasks. But there's one thing. Could you please try to do something about to improve this photo a bit? The net doesn't look natural now. Thanks. Vearthy (talk) 13:59, 12 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Did you compare the two images by opening them up in separate tabs and flipping between the two (or any other method)? I think it's pretty close. I'll tweak it a little more, though. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies15:06, 12 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
For my records, this discussion would be more appropriate at the Help Desk or WP:MCQ. I'm curious about watermark removal on specific fair-use images as well, but admins are not necessarily the correct people to request help from. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies08:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
Sorry but, as the first CSD was declined (rightly or wrongly - doesn't matter), you need to take it to RfD, I think. If you disagree though, please feel free to just ask again, and see what somebody else thinks - I won't mind at all; I just think that because CSD is only for the clearest cases, that if there is any doubt, it's better to use discussion. Chzz ► 16:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Keraunoscopia,
There is another reason for not deleting the slightly older files that get renamed, is that it messes up the history of the pages that use it. I have particularly noticed this with templates, but the same thing happens with images. I should talk about this in WT:speedy delete, but is is being discussed at WP:RFD. It has now come into prominence because of people with the file mover right. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
With every file move I do, I follow through completely, updating the links in any articles linking to the redirect. My redirects are never linked to anything—except user/user talk pages—within Wikipedia. (Other websites, I don't really know.) Doesn't that invalidate any problems with the history? I'm a bit OSD with housekeeping, I suppose. I'm do get bugged by file movers who don't do the "clean up" after a move. Unless I'm still not comprehending the issue! Perhaps a clarifying sentence should be added to the CSD description for redirects for speedy deletion? – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies21:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
I recall reading somewhere that pages are never truly deleted. If this is the case, then is it possible to see if this redirect used to be a disambiguation page to Hell? I am looking for an old dab page that I believe was deleted and replaced, and the argument to remove it was an argument I need to make elsewhere, but since the page no longer exists, I no longer have proof. Kind of a quandary. If I recall correctly, the "What The Hell" page used to list Hell; What the Hell, the Avril Lavigne song; and a link to an artist who had a similarly titled song (a Google search for this artist proved fruitless). If this isn't possible, just let me know. Thanks! – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies16:15, 16 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
This is what the deletion log says: # (del/undel) 22:54, 14 January 2011 JohnCD (talk | contribs | block) deleted "What the Hell" (G6: this disambiguation page is otiose (not necessary), as discussed at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Pointless_disambiguation_page.3F. Deletion of this page will make way to move What the Hell (song) to this namespace in accordance with [[WP:) (view/restore). You don't need to be an admin to see it (it's here). You just need to be an admin to see the content of the deleted page, which was a dab between a song by Terri Walker on the album L.O.V.E, which had no article, and the song by Avril Lavigne.
Wonderful, thank you. It's actually the content of the disambiguation page that I'm most interested in, but I think this will suffice for now. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies16:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
The content was:
What the Hell may refer to:
==Music==
* "What the Hell", a song by Terri Walker on the album L.O.V.E
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Sorry, I was busy commenting while you were retracting your tagging of the recent file-redirect. From your comment, it looks like you want to withdraw the nomination(s). Since no one else has argued to delete in either case, that is your right. Do you already know the mechanics of the process? Or would you prefer someone else to close the discussion? Rossami(talk)22:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
lol, hi, I'm chasing you around. The RfD beneath mine was using a {{Rfd top}} and bottom template (subst'd) to archive the discussion. Should I just do that? My reasoning would be "withdrawn by nominator" and I think my explanation of having read your discussion reply elsewhere would suffice. –Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies22:05, 18 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hi, I've just reverted your changes to this image. Given that it's been uploaded from the AWM's database under a fair use claim on the grounds that it's a historically significant image, I don't think that modifying the image's appearance is justified. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:38, 20 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
I didn't realise (or check) that the AWM had uploaded a better quality version of this photo. I've just reverted the photo - thanks. Nick-D (talk) 23:25, 20 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
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You caught me in an edit conflict just as I was trying to revert my revert. lol I was trying to edit something else on the page earlier and accidently hit vandalism instead. I closed out the window as soon as I saw my error in hopes the edit wouldn't save, and for a while of refreshing, it didn't so I just left it only to find it DID actually go through (shucks). Anyway, thanks for reverting it back. =D ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~01:23, 23 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
No worries at all! (And I've done the close-window-FAST thing too, only to have it backfire.) I didn't remember his edit history off the top of my head, but I couldn't trace the image to any copyrighted source, so I figured it was all in good faith (the image upload, as well as the inclusion into the article). It makes for a nice change to the top of the article as well. The "daybreak" link was simply a guess on my part, based on the image description, and I requested he change the caption again were I incorrect. I can only say that the current caption is about as safe as its gonna get : ) – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies01:45, 23 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
I did the same thing (trying to find it posted elsewhere)--but even Bandaids turned up nothing, so I think it's a good addition as well. I do think the description is slightly lacking, though. "Avril Lavigne performing in Australia in 2011" is what I was going to edit the text as before I made my error. "What the Hell" seems irrelevant as it's impossible to discern which song is being performed, and location and date might be nice. =D I just sortof did an "Eep! >run away<" after my blunder. lol ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~01:53, 23 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
Good point on the song. I hate to admit it, but I think the shirt performed a Jedi mind trick on me. I say update the caption. It really should be more descriptive (and less assuming), I 100% agree. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies02:13, 23 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
I just have a simple question: File:Dill&CLE.jpg, a free image, was moved to the Commons by a bot last February. I just reviewed the two files and the information seems to match. So I tagged the Wikipedia file {{NowCommons}}. In the past, I've also added {{db-f8}} to delete the current image as a duplicate of the Commons image. But what happens if I don't tag it F8? I would have thought the {{NowCommons}} tag would put the file in a hidden category, where users can see there is a duplicate file that needs to be reviewed before deleting. The tag even addresses admins directly. Does the {{NowCommons}} tag notify anyone of its existence? I'm not seeing any hidden categories. That's all I want to know, really. Barring that, should I go ahead and tag the image F8 or leave the NowCommons tagged file as-is. I would follow a similar pattern in the future, if I should leave it alone. Thank you! : ) – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies17:04, 23 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
Actually I've just noticed you were already working for about 5 minutes on the image before I uploaded my version, so it's completely my fault.--Sisyphos23 (talk) 17:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
Ah, I just finished it. No worries, it was good practice. If it's okay, I'll compare the two, since we have two versions anyway : ) – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies17:54, 24 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hi again, I was just looking through List of works by Frederic Edwin Church for images that could be put into rotation on Portal:Hudson Valley, and I was wondering if you'd be able to tell me which of Church's paintings depicted settings in New York. The only Church painting in rotation is To the Memory of Cole, though I suspect there may be more because he was a Hudson River School artist. Any Hudson Valley paintings you know of that aren't already in Portal:Hudson Valley/Selected picture would be appreciated. --Gyrobo (talk) 03:54, 27 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
I think eventually, that list may be separated into locations, since Church loved to travel during the summers, and his travels varied by era somewhat. I'm not a scholar on him, I just check out books from the library : ) And unfortunately, my main couple of books have been returned, so the only images I can find on the List that are recognizably New York-based are just the few listed below. As To the Memory of Cole proves (by not being on the List), the List isn't comprehensive. And there are dozens upon dozens more listed at Art Renewal (click on "Museum" and search by artist name) that I have yet to sort through. Here are some images for your portal (great idea, and a great way to expose Church to more people):
I believe this was painted from Olana (see below)
Olana was the house-on-a-hill and farm he built for himself and his wife. The last three images are Olana related, located in Hudson, New York, and which is now a museum (see Olana.org for more information). There may be more New York images over at the Commons... though a quick scan doesn't reveal anything new. A few of his gorgeous Autumn-themed paintings were definitely painted around the New York era, but without a book, I can't be completely sure if they were of New York. Hope this helps at least a little. If I come across a New York painting in the future, I'll leave you a note on your talk page. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies04:43, 27 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! I'm going to add those (and also, a photo of Olana State Historic Site) in the next day or so. You know, if you expanded the prose in the list by about 5x (mostly by adding stuff on Church himself, and his style), you could get the article to WP:DYK. It's always good to have more DYK hooks on the HV portal, and it always draws in people who improve the article in small ways. --Gyrobo (talk) 14:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, I'll delete the category I created and update any documentation and the template that leads to it. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies08:16, 27 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hello, would you mind skipping over to Template_talk:WikiProject_Albums#Needs-infobox and seeing this discussion? Quick exposition: I requested the B-class checklist be added to the fully protected template, but because I had category=no listed in my sandbox template, I never saw the "Infobox" category was missing. unref= and imageneeded= seem to add the category correctly. Should needs-infobox be moved as NOTE_3 at the bottom of the template? – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies07:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
(Non-admin comment) I suspect that this request hasn't been actioned because it is not clear enough. You should spell out, word for word, the edit that you want an admin to make for you. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:41, 29 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
Agreed, I should've waited until it wasn't so late at night. I'll work on this in more detail later. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies21:02, 29 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Thank you so much, I wasn't sure, and was literally just curious. Thank you for clarifying for me. Have a good day. K3vin (talk) 19:37, 6 May 2011 (UTC)ThReply
Thank you, I failed to follow through on those. Thanks for posting the link to the help page, that actually makes the whole thing much easier. I've added my rationale to the You Me at Six talk page and updated all templates to link directly there. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies03:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hi! Thanks for pointing that out - I'm not sure how I let those errors through. :) (I should have made a last pass against the original, but skipped that step - always an error). Anyway, I think they're fixed. If not, just let me know - a second set of eyes tends to pick up things the first missed. I've kept the original and retouched versions as PSD files, so there won't any degradation from more retouching.
I know what you mean about being kind-of enjoyable. This was by no means the hardest I've done, but it was tricky. I grabbed it because of a fear someone would try and handle it by cropping, which isn't a solution I'm comfortable with. - Bilby (talk) 22:49, 8 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
Hmm, it still isn't right. I'm glad you saved the PSD files, though! It looks like you repainted the artwork. I didn't mean for you to go to all that work. Are you familiar with masks in Photoshop? I hope I'm not being presumptuous, but allow me to show you one of the best ways to remove watermarks while refraining from affecting other areas of the image (and it's extremely easy)—and if you already know how to do this, then just ignore my instructions:
When you bring in an image into photoshop, you should duplicate the image layer that you will remove the watermark from.
Remove the watermark ( this step is done)
Click the eyeball on the non-watermarked layer so it is no longer visible
On the watermarked (original image) layer (and make sure it's a layer, not a background), add a mask
With a black paintbrush, paint around the text as closely as possible. It will look like you're erasing the image since the mask is essentially making the paint strokes "invisible". Paint as little or as much around the text and even in-between words
Now make the non-watermarked layer visible, and click and drag the mask from the original layer to the non-watermarked layer. The result should be that the watermark is gone, but any and all changes to the artwork around the text-area is also back to its original state.
Does that help any? Would you be able to try again so the artwork isn't "repainted" but is actually back in its original state? – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies23:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
It wasn't repainted, as such, although a couple of bits were - I used a mask (just bringing across the relevant areas) to get the areas that needed to be adjusted, but to rebuild the flow of the lines I had to clone a bit wider than I probably should have. I will finish it off per your suggestions as soon as I get home. I probably should have spent a bit more time masking, but rushed things through as I thought I could do a quick improvement before coming into work, rather than taking the time to finish it off as I should. Possibly a bad choice, but it made sense at the time.
And the advice is much appreciated - I do a lot of photography work, and I have a lot of experience there, but less with artwork. Artwork has less consistent lines, which seems to make things interesting. With photos you tend to have something simpler to work with. - Bilby (talk) 01:31, 9 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
Great. The only two parts left I can see are beneath "Flug" and under "Sphäre" again. But you got the part behind "Flug" (the lighter area) practically dead-on, it looks really nice. Sorry, I didn't realize you were running out to work, there's really no rush. : ) – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies01:56, 9 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
The magic word {{DISPLAYTITLE}} doesn't seem to work at Was_It_Worth_It?_(Pet_Shop_Boys_song). It's not really a big deal, but I think the magic word has trouble "interpreting" caps and lowercaps. (And from what little I gathered, the title being lowercase is subject to constant debate—but I'm curious why DISPLAYTITLE may be having trouble any way.) – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies10:39, 10 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
Hi, I was looking at my global contributions and I noticed that I made 3 edits at de.wiki.x.io... but there are 100 edits on "What the Hell", "Goodbye Lullaby", and strange "Benutzer:..." articles or user pages... something really weird is happening. Is there an explanation for all this? The edit summaries do match my en.wikipedia edits (on Goodbye Lullaby, for example), but the whole thing is very bizarre, especially the Benutzer creepiness. I wasn't sure who to ask... Thanks! – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies10:14, 11 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
I believe that what's going on there is that some one has "imported" pages which you edited here. When they do this, all edits are automaticly attributed to the original author (which is necessary under our licensing), and have the original edit summary and version content. I didn't check the details out myself, but I believe that every one of these edits corresponds to some edit you did on some Wikimedia project (probably, but not necessarily, English Wikipedia). עוד מישהוOd Mishehu11:38, 11 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Keraunoscopia. Whats going on with the deletion of [14]. Are you just taking out a version? The image is used in a lot of articles. Ceoil12:40, 21 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
Hi guys, I was simply following through on the {{non-free frame}} request that someone tagged the image. All previous images with the frame are typically deleted (not permanently, of course) afterwards. My tagging for speedy deletion was a request for the unfree image to be removed only, not the upload history. However, it appears that Johnbod (talk·contribs) left a comment on the image talk page saying the frame is an actual part of the painting. If this is so, then this should be explained in the description of the image; I would have seen it and would have removed the {{non-free frame}} template without editing the image. As it stands (and it's a bit confusing because Commons's image caching is being problematic), the unfree frame image was removed (though I don't know by whom, the history doesn't record it) and Johnbod reverted my CSD request, albeit too late? Either way, if the frame really is part of the painting, then an admin should be asked to restore the deleted image and revert my edit—the description should be updated to keep ignorant people like me out of the way, and all will be well! Let me know if I can be of further assistance. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies16:38, 21 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
Yes, we should have an image including the frame, as well as without. I can edit the description later tonight. Under the circumstances, I suspect the whole image is non-free & should be transferred to individual WPs, & given FU rationales where it is used - a bit of a pain. Or is a section of a non-free image free? Johnbod (talk) 17:57, 21 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
So the question remains, is this an unfree frame, or not? Well, in my limited knowledge, an unfree frame is a frame designed by a modern artist whose creation (the frame) is not in the public domain. van Eyck's frame, on the other hand, would have to be, simply because it was created more than 100 years ago. I have brought this question to WP:MCQ at Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions#Painting_with_original_.28three-dimensional.29_frame, and if you or anyone reading this discussion would like to look at it, feel free to swing by. Thanks! – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies10:50, 22 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hi there, thanks for your feedback on Nadia Ali's album Embers. I will get around to making most of the changes you suggested as soon as I have some time. However, I wanted to ask you for your help on another matter. I have worked on the article for Nadia Ali and changed it a fair bit with help from another editor. I have put it up for peer review and I was wondering if you could help out by going through and suggesting what else I can do to improve it and get it to Good Article status. Thanks! Hassan514 (talk) 00:15, 25 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
Hi, I'm currently working on an FAC and a few other projects so I'll give the article a run through probably in a day or two. : ) – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies02:15, 25 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Sorry, I'm an idiot and wrote to you in the archives. I've responded to your comments and made some changes as you suggested. Could you please have a look at the Nadia Ali page and see what I've done is ok? Hassan514 (talk) 20:02, 1 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
No worries, I archive at the end of the month and your discussion was on the cusp. I'll take a look at your comments later in the day. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies20:06, 1 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
Thank you so much, Hassan514. Congratulations for getting the article to up to GA standard and for putting in so much hard work! I'm very happy for you! – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies04:48, 23 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
Hello, it's okay, I was simply wondering. It's really not a big deal, just thought it might help out the page a bit, but then again, it might also be detrimental to the image's nomination. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies18:41, 3 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
On the very top left of this sandbox, User:Keraunoscopia/sandstorm, is a notice of deprecation. It needs to be inserted into Template:Infobox_album/sandbox, specifically in the header11 or data12 fields. Here's why: album reviews are not supposed to be listed in the infobox. If they are, this notice needs to appear directly beneath the "Professional reviews" bar. Please make any necessary changes to the overall width of the table so that it fits within the infobox. Infoboxes, I believe, use ems for widths, and my example simply uses pixels, which probably won't correlate very well. If this is posted in the wrong area, do let me know. Otherwise, thanks so much for any help I can get with this. There is already a consensus to integrate this into the actual template, but I want to make sure everything is in perfect working order before then. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies03:35, 14 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
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I notice that you're changing a lot of the infoboxes in album articles. Could you make sure to also add a References section and {{reflist}} to the articles? Because, otherwise, you're breaking the references system in the article. SilverserenC02:39, 16 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
I'm adding Reference sections to the ones that I notice right off the bat, but my pursuit in this endeavor isn't trying to upkeep articles that should have had References sections in the first place. The majority of these articles could easily be tagged {{merge}} or nominated for deletion as they most likely fail WP:NALBUMS. So I can't waste a lot of time on fixing up other editors' faulty articles. Sorry to be so blunt about it, but there's a hell of a lot of work to be done. But, like I said, if I notice the References sections missing (without wasting time scrolling down), then I'll add it. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies02:42, 16 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hey can you please have a look at the Dresden and Johnston article? I fixed it the other day because the article didn't seem neutral to me and the discography had links to iTunes to buy all the songs. Someone has added those links again and the language doesn't seem neutral to me at all. I'm not too sure how much I should change from that but could you please look at it and tell me what to change and what not to? Hassan514 (talk) 06:47, 17 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
Anyway, this seems like it's full of complex issues, so here's what I would do
If the IP reverts my changes or re-adds the itunes spam links, then take the article to WP:RFP and request semi-protection to block IPs from editing it. This will force the IPs to log in if they want to make any further changes.
You can take the article to WP:COI because it seems apparent persons affiliated with the band are editing the article, which definitely has unsourced non-neutral information in it. I would mention MathewFaust and the most recent IP (the only two users I looked into), but if you think anyone else may be involved with conflict of interest editing, point them out as well.
Take the duo image to WP:MCQ and ask if the image is truly PD (public domain) or copyrighted. There may not even be an answer to this question, but may as well have some knowledgeable people look into it.
I'm not sure what else to do. They seem notable enough for inclusion, but it's obviously got some insider information going on there. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies07:17, 17 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
Heya, thanks for the reply. I personally suspect it's Mikael Johnston because he is linking the article on his twitter to find collaborators to work with. I agree about the image because it is found on the Beatport article about them. Also, a couple of years ago Mikael Johnston's page was deleted from Wikipedia. I hadn't joined at that time but I do remember reading the discussion and a lot of users just signed up to vote for keeping the article (although I would've done the same, he's notable enough in EDM). I'll do what you have suggested and in case they do revert the edits, I'll ask for semi-protection. Thanks! Hassan514 (talk) 13:50, 17 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
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What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
For your excellent work facilitating the removal of reviews from the albums infobox, particularly by setting up the instruction page and organizing the drive. You brought us out of an 18-month stall, resulting in almost 2,700 articles (so far) being updated in just a few days. Brilliant! IllaZilla (talk) 14:47, 20 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Keraunoscopia.
As someone who contributed to discussion when the issue was raised a little while ago, you may like to have your say in the current RFC on subpages, at WT:MOS.
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{{adminhelp}} Hi, can I request the undeletion of this school logo? It appears the image was removed during a bad faith edit, and it was never restored. The image was therefore deleted for being unused, though i assume its fair-use rationale was okay at the time and that it can be restored and replaced back in the article. Thanks! – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies04:15, 25 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Heya, I just nominated Nadia's discography for Featured list. Do you do any reviews for them by any chance or can you have a look at it please to see if I have missed anything important? Thanks! Hassan514 (talk) 09:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
Hey, no worries I completely understand. It is absolutely boring I must admit myself. It's another thing just listing the singles and albums but finding chart positions, I wanted to shoot myself lol. I just want to do as much as I can since I'm the only one actively involved with the Nadia Ali articles. My next projects are Embers and "Rapture". I want to get them as comprehensive as I can and I might bug you then! ;) You have been incredibly helpful! Hassan514 (talk) 10:59, 1 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hey, I think with Wiki the way to learn something is to try it. I am pretty new to FP (both submitting and voting) as well. I love that you showed us the picture. It is just not an automatic accept.
I don't think having an extra FP is an automatic reject (there are articles with more than one). I do think it's more likely that some summary article (like Fluorine) will have more than one FP. That article, both the ozone gif and the rotating body scane were FPs. But even then, not two pictures of liquid fluorine. Some people think the image should only be looked at in isolation, but I think about its EV, what else is in our bank, etc. That is just my POV. DON'T take my views as policy. If anything, I am sort of a rebel and am different than policy.
On the photo shoot and the like...just not sure how to express it, but it was something that was a vague feeling.
All of this pic evaluating can have some subjective aspects and people differ on what their criteria are.
Please keep submitting and participating. I like aerogel and you!
Haha, thanks for the nice comment! I completely accept people's rejections, and I liked seeing your own opinion progress the way it did. FPC on Commons is different than FPC on the English wiki because the images are going to be used, and they're going to be competing with EV of other images, like you said. I'm still "learning the ropes" over at FPC English, though. Don't worry, I wasn't offended or upset or anything. I probably should have said so, and simply asked what you mean by the photoshoot comment (which only confused me). But thanks again for the nice words, I'll still be there. (I lurk more than participate, currently.) – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies01:50, 1 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
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"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Albums for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Other editors will also have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 00:12, 2 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hey buddy, I know you don't like discographies but could you just do me one tiny favour. Could you please have a look at the lead and see if there's any changes that can be made to the sentencing. I feel like there's something missing or things that can be rephrased but not sure how to do it. I'd really appreciate that! Hassan514 (talk) 06:58, 12 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hello, Keraunoscopia. I brought up the Voice of Rock website on the WikiProject Albums talk page to see whether or not it can be an acceptable addition to WP:ALBUM/REVSIT, and it hasn't received any responses as of this message. Some feedback concerning the website would be welcome. Cheers. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds.21:42, 26 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Good night! Well, i came here for a question and a request, this two files [15] and [16] : I need to climb both for the Spanish wiki-page of Smile ([17]), In the same way you did it . So, I wanted to ask it;
Can you do it or teach me how to climb one of these files to my spanish-wiki?
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