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Your edit to Ned Kelly article lead
editHello Jonny Nixon Please note that the lead of the Ned Kelly article accords with MOS in its treatment of commonly used names MOS:NICK.Vis:
"For any kind of alternative name, use formulations like the following (as applicable):
Timothy Alan Dick (born June 13, 1953), known professionally as Tim Allen
Alessandro di Mariano di Vanni Filipepi (c. 1445 – May 17, 1510), better known as Sandro Botticelli
Ariadna Thalía Sodi Miranda (born 26 August 1971), known mononymously as Thalía"
Thank you.--Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 22:38, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Aemilius Adolphin: Disagree. Ned is a nickname, and the hypocorism example used for Bill Gates in MOS:NICKNAME covers it perfectly. The examples you provided do not apply to Kelly, as his common name retains his birth surname, nor is he known by a single name. —Jonny Nixon (talk) 23:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- The example for Bill Gates doesn't apply because it simply states that a common English-language hypocorism should not be placed in quotes within or after the first mention of his full legal name. It doesn't say that the hyoporism must not be mentioned. In fact it says the opposite: any kind of alternative name should be written as per the examples given. Ned Kelly is as kind of alternative name to Edward Kelly. So I rewrote it as per the examples given. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 04:40, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Aemilius Adolphin: Unbelievable. I gave examples of other Neds in the edit summary on Kelly's page, I referred to MOS:NICKNAME and you are still using nonstandard usage. Read: "It is not always necessary to spell out why the article title and lead paragraph give a different name. If a person has a common English-language hypocorism (diminutive or abbreviation) used in lieu of a given name, it is not presented between quotation marks or parentheses within or after their name."
- The example for Bill Gates doesn't apply because it simply states that a common English-language hypocorism should not be placed in quotes within or after the first mention of his full legal name. It doesn't say that the hyoporism must not be mentioned. In fact it says the opposite: any kind of alternative name should be written as per the examples given. Ned Kelly is as kind of alternative name to Edward Kelly. So I rewrote it as per the examples given. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 04:40, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ned = hypocorism for Edward. See Kelly's counterparts Daniel Kelly, Stephen Hart and Joseph Byrne for more hypocorisms in articles. —Jonny Nixon (talk) 17:10, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- "Not always necessary" does not mean "thou shalt not"; "not presented between quotation marks or parentheses within or after their name" does not mean "not to be presented at all". However, "any kind of alternative name should be written as per the examples given" does mean that any kind of alternative (such as Ned instead of Edward) should be written as per the recommendation given. I did just that. What other articles do is a matter for the authors of those articles. MOS allows for choice on the matter. The usage in the article follows MOS guidelines, using a form of words recommended by MOS. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 22:33, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ned = hypocorism for Edward. See Kelly's counterparts Daniel Kelly, Stephen Hart and Joseph Byrne for more hypocorisms in articles. —Jonny Nixon (talk) 17:10, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
@Aemilius Adolphin: Nope, in MOS:NICKNAME, "alternative name" doesn't apply for Kelly, but "common English-language hypocorism" certainly does. —Jonny Nixon (talk) 11:50, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I finally see your point and have made the change. I apologise for having wasted your time.Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 10:00, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- No worries, I'm glad you finally realised. Cheers. —Jonny Nixon (talk) 01:20, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
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edit@Jonny Nixon: Hi mate! I’ve just done a lot of editing on the Paul Green page and I see that you have, too. Do you know, is it appropriate to have a subsection to the Death section called 'Reaction'? It seems that it would be, but I don’t actually know whether this happens in this way. Also, I can’t find anything about when he married Amanda…? All the best. Boscaswell talk 22:47, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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