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- I think I already fixed this? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 08:02, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
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editPlease refrain from introducing inappropriate pages to Wikipedia, as doing so is not in accordance with our policies. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Wikipedia:Your first article; you might also consider using the Article Wizard. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 15:59, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Industrial Metal Brain,
- Please do not create User pages for non-existent editors. They will just be deleted. I saw your explanation but I still do not understand why you think these pages help improve the encyclopedia or help its editors. Do not create any pages that are not beneficial to the project or to the current group of editors who work here. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 16:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, @Liz. Yes I know now I should have checked more carefully before I made that. Are these messages both about the same page?
- I saw something missing and tried to "fix" it, but I will check more carefully before before acting in future. And if it relates to user pages I'll leave a message for the user suggesting an improvement instead of trying to do it myself.
- Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 17:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- I put "fix" in quotes meaning that is what I thought I was doing at the time. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 17:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Liz, is it all fixed properly now? Do I need to do any more clean up or follow up? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 23:59, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
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editHello. I wanted to reach out regarding a number of your recent draftifications and let you know that articles older than 90 days should not be draftified without prior consensus at AfD, per the result of this RfC. Please be mindful of this when moving pages to draft space in the future. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Note that I've reverted your draftifications of the various years in Croatian television as a result. For what it's worth, I agree the articles are problematic and do not belong in main space in their current state. I noticed you did merge a couple, so I wanted to at least mention there's nothing stopping you from redirecting them to a merged and relevant topic. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh. Yes, I was merging them, AfD doesn't sound like the right process? A lot of them were completely empty, just headings, most had one dot point. I moved them to draft space to modify before combining the nearly empty years into decades. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 17:24, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- WP:PROD may have been the best course of action, but AfD would be technically correct. In this case, redirecting to a merged topic does make the most sense. The problem with moving to draft space is that, after 6 months, drafts which have not been edited are deleted. If we redirect them instead it preserves the page history, which is the ideal course of action if your goal is a decades article instead of a yearly one. Again, I agree that they were problematic, but I also work to ensure the draftification rules are followed, even if I sometimes agree that items aren't fit for main space. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:27, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh By "redirecting them" do you mean delete everything on the page and replace it with a redirect? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 20:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, that's fine because the edit history is preserved. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Somebody nominated them for AfD as soon as you put them back in main space. I added the redirects but I left the AfD box above it, I hope that's right. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 08:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, that's fine because the edit history is preserved. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh By "redirecting them" do you mean delete everything on the page and replace it with a redirect? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 20:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh
- By the way, should I call you "Josh" if I am referring to you but I don't need a response? e.g. "as Josh suggested above", or if I have already tagged you in the thread but I want to add another comment or question before you have replied? Or have I misinterpreted your username? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 08:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 08:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- IMB, per his userpage, his name is Josh. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Josh is fine. Also, there's no need to be pinging me in your edit summaries when making these changes. I'll check out the AfD when I get a chance. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:55, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- IMB, per his userpage, his name is Josh. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
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Requested move
editHello User:Industrial Metal Brain. When requesting a move, please include some rational. Otherwise, it's much harder to argue for or against you. I'm specifically talking about this. Esolo5002 (talk) 05:14, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry. It seemed self explanatory, but I'll try to think of something. Is there a page on the other sub-topic that I haven't found? If so, I'll request a merge instead. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 05:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
List of Croatian television presenters moved to draftspace
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- @Significa liberdade, is it a list. The list class isn't supposed to need references because they mostly just link to other articles. Is there a broader topic that would be notable? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 00:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there! Standalone lists still require references and have their own notability guidelines, which I recommend you review. If you're looking for somewhere to just list articles by specific characteristics, categories may be more appropriate ([[Category:Croatian television presenters]] already exists). Let me know if you have any follow-up questions. I'm happy to help! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:20, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Significa liberdade. I built it from the category, I thought it might be helpful to readers who are unfamiliar with the mechanics of Wikipedia. If that's not useful maybe I'll just delete it. How do I do that without needing a consensus debate?
- What are lists supposed to do that categories don't already? The help pages deal with them separately and I've not seen any they differentiate that clearly. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 02:37, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's acceptable to have overlapping categories and lists. In accordance with the notability guidelines for lists, "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources ... The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been". Does that make sense?
- If you would like to have the page deleted, as the author, you can tag it for G7 speedy deletion. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 15:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there! Standalone lists still require references and have their own notability guidelines, which I recommend you review. If you're looking for somewhere to just list articles by specific characteristics, categories may be more appropriate ([[Category:Croatian television presenters]] already exists). Let me know if you have any follow-up questions. I'm happy to help! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:20, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Thank you for fixing that. The title was in another source that I haven't added yet, but you are correct that it's not part of a "commonly recognizable name". Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 07:06, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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- @Cameron Dewe. Some of those were from when it was in my user space, but mostly I just didn't realize they are needed on every edit. Are they needed for user space pages that I don't plan to move (test pages and drafts and work I plan to copy paste into existing articles)? Or do I only need them if the edit history gets moved to main space? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 07:32, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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- @Cameron Dewe. Is the automated section heading enough? I already have ==draft== on some things. When the automatic summary says "draft" (or similar headings), is that enough? Or do I need to type something? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 23:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- If you are adding a whole new section the automated prompt would give the title of the new section followed by the words "New section" like "/* Draft */ New section", which is probably at least the minimum description that you should provide. But if you are editing within the section you will only get the section title in the summary and you still need to explain your edit further, as all the default text is saying is that you edited within the named section, rather than editing the whole article. If you happen to change the section name, or add sections, that is not reflected in the default text, so you still need to explain what you are doing by editing the edit summary text. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 01:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- I meant for things in my user space where you said it was ok to just say "draft"? If that comes up automatically, does that work? Then if it ever gets moved it will still say "draft" or "sandbox" in the edit notes? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 03:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- You still need to describe or explain your edits. So the first time you draft something, you might say "Draft" or even "First draft about <topic>". If you subsequently notice a spelling mistake and correct it your edit summary could say "sp" to indicate you are fixing spelling or even "cr" to indicate you are making corrections more generally. If you copy-edit an article you might say "c/e". You could also show changes by simply showing what you changed, such as "this -> that". See Wikipedia:Edit summary legend for a list of commonly understood abbreviations used in edit summaries. Also, if you are doing something explained by a particular Wikipedia policy or guideline there are often shortcuts to the WP:GUIDELINE concerned and it might be enough to say "per <policy shortcut>". If your edit summaries simply parrot the same text every time, this implies you are doing the same thing every time. If you are, that is ok, but if you are not then your summary could be flagged as wrong or even considered misleading. I suggest you read Help:Edit summary for additional explanations about edit summaries. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 05:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- I meant for things in my user space where you said it was ok to just say "draft"? If that comes up automatically, does that work? Then if it ever gets moved it will still say "draft" or "sandbox" in the edit notes? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 03:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- If you are adding a whole new section the automated prompt would give the title of the new section followed by the words "New section" like "/* Draft */ New section", which is probably at least the minimum description that you should provide. But if you are editing within the section you will only get the section title in the summary and you still need to explain your edit further, as all the default text is saying is that you edited within the named section, rather than editing the whole article. If you happen to change the section name, or add sections, that is not reflected in the default text, so you still need to explain what you are doing by editing the edit summary text. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 01:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Cameron Dewe. Is the automated section heading enough? I already have ==draft== on some things. When the automatic summary says "draft" (or similar headings), is that enough? Or do I need to type something? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 23:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, every edit should have a summary that describes what you are doing. Having an edit summary helps other readers and editors decide if your contributions are worthy of further attention, or not. Since you do not own the content you contribute to Wikipedia, not even your user pages, anyone could potentially move anything you write into a mainspace article, even if you never intended that to happen. If you are "testing" something out, a summary that says "Test" might be enough. If you are writing something that is only a "draft", you should say so in the edit summary. Not having an edit summary tends to be a red-flag to some people, as they will wonder why you are not explaining your changes, even on your user pages. They may become more suspicious and less tolerant of your editing, especially if they do not understand what you are trying to do. Having an edit summary can help with others understanding what you are trying to achieve with your edits. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 09:56, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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Where you wrote: "
- == A, B, or C ==
- t would be good for the infobox to say area A, B, or C. I came here looking for that, if it's on the page anywhere, it is not easy to find. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 09:11, 12 December 2024 (UTC)"
In fact, it's been in the lede at least since 10 June 2022, when an editor replaced PNA Area A with the current spelled-out version, Palestinian National Authority:
- Jenin came under Israeli occupation in 1967 and was put under the administration of the Palestinian National Authority as Area A of the West Bank in 1993.
If you look at template:infobox settlement, you'll see nothing that supports your suggestion. This infobox is not about Palestine, and references to area are all about, e.g., square kilometers. Larry Koenigsberg (talk) 15:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Larrykoen I replied on the Jenin talk page. Thanks for adding the missing citation. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 04:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- For versatile templates you need to read all the options, because a ctrl+F is unlikely to find the best option. Most of the general infobox templates have flexible blanks, but they are called something different on every template. Searching for "data" or "blank" or "info" will often help, but this time the most suitable were "subdivision2" or "subdivision3" (used now on Jenin) and "type of government" (which I later saw used on Bethlehem), so even searching "blank" etc. doesn't always find the best answer. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 04:17, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
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