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Rhythm, Rhyme, Results

There is no indication that the article follow the process to allow Wikipedia to carry this copyrighted material. Adding a hangon tag does not mean the article will be kept. Take a look at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Also I did use the wrong code when I deleted this, sorry. It failed to show that it was notable in my opinion. However given the issues of copyright it needed to be deleted. If you can rewrite the article without using copyrighted material so that it meets WP:ORG, WP:N, WP:RS and WP:VIO then you can do so. You may also need to look at WP:COI if you are involved in the operation. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:00, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Signature

You have been adding four tildes (~~~~) in your edit summaries. Four tildes are only to be used on discussion pages in order to automatically generate your signature. For example, at the end of this post I will place four tildes. Instead of appearing on the actual page as four tildes, my username will be shown, along with a timestamp showing when I posted this comment: Jujutacular ^talk 18:44, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

2009 class

Hi, I thought I'd let you know about Wikipedia:Music encyclopedia topics, in case you haven't seen it yet. If your students are looking to create articles as part of their assignment, the red-links can provide some ideas of subjects which Wikipedia still hasn't covered. Also, they really have to watch copy-pasting and close-paraphrasing from copyright sources, which includes just about any website. Wikipedia is now really cracking down on this. I only mention this because there were some articles in previous years from the Futureclass group that had copypasted text, and I'd hate to see the students get into trouble. Many editors, especially new ones, don't realize what constitutes a copyright text or that close paraphrasing is also a copyright violation. I've written some guidelines on this issue for WikiProject Opera, but the advice, FAQs etc. basically apply to all articles. You'll find them here. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:19, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Voceditenore! Though I'm still searching for my way on Wikipedia, my students and I find your input immensely inspiring. (Not having visited talk page in too long, I had not seen you kind and helpful message until just now. I appreciate it.) Happy New Year!Ijmusic (talk) 19:31, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Futureclass 2010

Voceditenore (talk) 08:59, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

User:Vision of music's future – a couple of things...

Hi there! I went over to check out User:Vision of music's future. A couple of things...

• I removed the template {{EducationalAssignment}} - this only goes on article talk pages – not user talk pages – as it automatically puts the page in article categories.

• The page has no registered account attached to it, and shouldn't be used for your project page. Actually, User:Futureclass is also problematic as it represents a group rather than a single individual, even if no one actually edits under that account. (I assume you are also registered as this account). See WP:NOSHARE. There are a couple of ways to fix this:

  1. Move User:Vision of music's future and User:Futureclass and their talk pages to new subpages of your main account, e.g. User:Ijmusic/Vision of music's future and User:Ijmusic/Future of classical music. Example here.

  2. Move the pages to new subpages of Wikipedia:School and university projects e.g. Wikipedia:School and university projects/Vision of music's future and Wikipedia:School and university projects/Future of classical music. Example here.

  For either of these options, make sure you move the pages rather than cutting the contents from one pasting them into the other. Otherwise, you lose the edit history. Moving the pages will automatically create a re-direct from the original page, so your students won't get lost. WP:MOVE explains how to do this, or if you like, I'd be happy to do this for you.

I look forward to your new crop of students. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 07:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Arggh! Or should I just *sigh*. One works: <user:Ijmusic/Futureclass>! Unfortunately, I created the new page for <user:Ijmusic/Vision of music's future> before I should have; we both know what happened then. You were more than kind to offer to do the honors--I wanted to be able to do it myself.

Having devised a quick 'n' dirty, I'd prefer not to retain the inelegant <user:Ijmusic/Vision of music's future-Berklee>, but I will you advise me to. With thanks, dear VdT, Ijmusic (talk) 22:37, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Preceding comment copied from here to keep the conversation in one place. Voceditenore (talk) 08:04, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Ooops! I should have reminded you not to create the target page first as you can't move a page to a pre-existing page, you can only redirect it. Here's what I've done. I've redirected both User:Vision of music's future and User:Ijmusic/Vision of music's future-Berklee (and their talk pages) to User:Ijmusic/Vision of music's future (and its talk page). If you click on each link, you'll see that they work. So you can just go ahead and edit User:Ijmusic/Vision of music's future and your class can use it as your main project page. In order to redirect the talk pages, I had to create User talk:Ijmusic/Vision of music's future. I just used a standard tag to have something on the page. The only possible issue would be if in the future someone else wanted to register the user name Vision of music's future. But I think that's highly unlikely, so I'd just let sleeping dogs lie.

By the way, I've copied your response from my talk page here, as it's best to keep all the conversation on one topic in one place. I've got your talk page on my watchlist, so I won't miss any messages about the page moves. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:04, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, dear VdT, for your great grace and for your efforts on our, and my, behalf. Thanks also for making our communication more efficient! Tomorrow, the class begins their voyage of discovery on Wikipedia! You've done more than wish us luck: you've helped us to the blueprints of seaworthy crafts. Best, Ijmusic (talk) 23:43, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

You have wrought wonders, VdT, and you're fast to boot! This morning, I sent a concerned e-mail to the Vision of Music's Future class, for none had entered their tildes. Imagine my surprise upon returning this evening: not only have several subscribed, but you have welcomed them as well. Thank you, again, for your prompt and gracious attention to our well-being on Wikipedia. I know how pleased the students will be to have heard from you. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 03:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

You're very welcome.;-) Wow! This is a big class. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 21:09, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

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Personal Info

Something you might want to discuss with your students... several of them have posted their real names and full date of birth. Quite a few Wikipedians edit under their own names, but adding your full date of birth as well can lead to identity theft. It's a small risk, but they should be aware of it. An alternative is to just include the birth year. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 22:19, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I'll alert the class right now.

When class met today, many expressed wonder and pleasure that you would post so quickly to each of our pages. Cautioning them about infractions, I had described you to them last week as our Good Angel; you lived up to your billing! Best, Ijmusic (talk) 23:15, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

About to hit

Hi, VdT. The Berklee students will be posting their articles this week. Should each feature a "Created as an educational assignment" banner? In haste, Ijmusic (talk) 22:28, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi there, sorry I've been so late replying. I've been away all of August. I've checked all the new articles created by your students and bannered their talk pages for relevant projects, as well as being educational assignments, e.g. Talk:Tamia Valmont I notice that some of your students do not appear to have articles or their articles were deleted. If you contact User:DGG (an administrator), he can email a copy of the deleted article or can "userfy" it. That is, restore it to the creator's user page. I'm off again until September 8th. Until then, Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 17:06, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

General feedback page

Hi IJ, I've added some general feedback to this year's class as a whole on the Futureclass talk page. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:26, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Star

Thank you so much for the "Shiny Star". It's been my pleasure to help your class. Each year they get better and better. I've made this suggestion to one of your students. Do emphasise to him that I'm happy to help him get the content into the BSO article. Voceditenore (talk) 17:39, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Ping...

PS. I'm going to add some image advice for the students (and future students) to User talk:Ijmusic/Futureclass. So keep an eye out for it. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:35, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Looking for Wikipedia Ambassadors

Hi! I'm leaving you this message because you are listed as a Wikipedian associated with Harvard. The Wikipedia Ambassador Program is currently looking for Campus Ambassadors to help with Wikipedia assignments at schools in Boston and Cambridge (including Harvard), which will be participating in the Public Policy Initiative for the Spring 2011 semester. The role of Campus Ambassadors will be to provide face-to-face training and support for students on Wikipedia-related skills (how to edit articles, how to add references, etc.). This includes doing in-class presentations, running workshops and labs, possibly holding office hours, and in general providing in-person mentorship for students.

Prior Wikipedia skills are not required for the role, as training will be provided for all Campus Ambassadors (although, of course, being an experienced editor is a plus).

If you live near Boston and you are interested in being a Wikipedia Campus Ambassador, or know someone else from the area who might be, please email me or leave a message on my talk page.

If you're an experienced and active Wikipedian, you might be interested alternatively in becoming an Online Ambassador. The role of Online Ambassadors is to serve as mentors for students; it doesn't require any in-person outreach. Take a look at the Online Ambassador guidelines; the "mentorship process" describes roughly what will be expected of mentors in the coming term. If that's something you want to do, please apply!

You can find instructions for applying at WP:ONLINE. The main things we're looking for in Online Ambassadors are friendliness, regular activity (since mentorship is a commitment that spans several months), and the ability to give detailed, substantive feedback on articles (both short new articles, and longer, more mature ones).

--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 21:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of August Heckscher II

The article August Heckscher II has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or ask at Wikipedia:Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. –Dream out loud (talk) 19:51, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

New user pages

Hi IJ, I just went to welcome one of your Berklee students, and see that Wikipedia now has now instituted these rather large and clunky automatically created user pages, e.g. this one.

If your students would rather not have all the graphics, giant globes, ghost pictures etc. on their user page, they can get rid of it and just keep their own "about me" section. All they have to do is edit the page, remove the element:

{{New user bar}}

then click "save"

Best, Voceditenore (talk) 13:55, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Summertime

Hi IJ, just a note to say I'm off on Tuesday for most of August. In the meantime have a good summer and best wishes to your students. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:20, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

The new Futureclass

Hi IJ, welcome back! I saw you updated Futureclass today. I'm looking forward to meeting Longy's new Wikipedians soon. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:17, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Comings and goings

Hi IJ. Just a note to say that I'll be away until November 28th with pretty limited computer access. If some of your students are a little unsure about the contributions they're going to make, they probably should work in their personal sandboxes first. When I get back I plan to make their work my first priority here, so help will be at hand. In the meantime, Happy Thanksgiving. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:59, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

You are invited to join WikiProject Stanford University!

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Student contributions

Hi IJ, me again. I took the liberty of adding links to the each student's contributions at User:Ijmusic/Vision of music's future. It helps me keep track of their exploits to have them all on one page. Feel free to remove the links if you'd rather not have them. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:27, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

One of your students may be confused ...

Hi IJ, me again. I notice that one of your students listed his name on the class page as User:Albino. But I think that account belongs to someone else and the student is actually edting as User:Albinombie [1]. I left them a note about it on their talk page. Just a heads-up as this will need to be sorted out. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:06, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and fixed this on the class page. User:Albino is a completely different editor and on top of that has been indefintely blocked from the German Wikipedia [2]. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 06:45, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

The Teahouse

Hi IJ. Me again. I'm shortly leaving for a month in Italy where I'll have very limited internet access. So I've left notes on all your students' talk pages letting them know about Wikipedia's Teahouse. It provides great support for new editors. They can ask questions (no question is too basic) and get helpful answers and advice from experienced editors. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:29, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Note from Voceditenore

Hi IJ, welcome back! I'm sorry to hear you've been out of commission and hope all is well now. I'm off to Italy today, but just wanted to alert you to User talk:Ijmusic/Futureclass. I've added some more information there for the new students, as there have been some changes on Wikipedia in the last few months, especially concerning the Visual Editor and the Article Wizard. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 05:00, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to your latest brood!

Hi IJ, I'll be happy to look out for them, as always. Please tell the students that if they have any articles or drafts they'd like my advice on to feel free to contact me on my talk page. I'll keep an eye on their contributions too, but the direct approach is sometimes faster. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:55, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

2013 tips for FutureClass

Hi IJ! Me again. I've written more about subject choice, sourcing, and writing style and the reasons why new editors have to be increasingly careful about this at User talk:Ijmusic/Futureclass#2013 Tips. I'll leave notes on your students' talk pages with the link, but do encourage them all to have a look at them. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and all that. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:31, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

More from Voceditenore

Hi IJ! Just a note to say that I'm "away from my desk" with much more limited internet access during the Thanksgiving holiday. I'll be back in London on December 2nd when I can give the students more detailed attention. Meanwhile, I have all their current drafts and articles on my watchlist and will try to watch out for any difficulties they may get into. Today I moved one of your student's drafts out of "Articles for Creation" directly into article space at Piano Sonatas (Ustvolskaya). So far, they seem to be getting on very well for beginners. Bravi tutti! Happy Thanksgiving and all the best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:08, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

From London

St. Paul's Cathedral...
Merry Christmas, Isaiah, and a very happy music-filled new year! Voceditenore

Welcome back!

Hi Isaiah! Glad to see you back with your Berklee brood. As always, I'll try to keep a motherly eye on them. It should be easier now that the course has been moved to the Fall. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:04, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Privacy

Hi IJ. You might want to discuss privacy issues with this year's students... Several of them have posted their real names in their user page profiles. This is fine—quite a few Wikipedians do edit under their own names and disclose a fair amount of personal information. But this does have privacy implications which they should be aware of. The level of privacy when revealing their real names is dependent on how common the name is and how much other personal information they provide on-wiki. Everything they write here or that others have written to or about them remains accessible (mimimally in page histories). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:42, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Berklee Spring 2015

Hi IJ! Just a note to say that I will be travelling and away from my desk until April 23rd. I won't be able to help the class actively 'til I get back. If the students do get into any last minute difficulties while I'm away, the editors at The Teahouse may be able to help. I'm not sure when the assignment ends, but I've had a look at contributions of all the students in this year's class and so far have seen only three drafts/articles:

• Oberheim ob-1
• Draft:Lai Ying Tong
• User:Ichmusic/sandbox.

I've got those on my watch list. They all look reasonably promising, and when I get back, I'll look at them in more detail. All the best and Happy Easter!, Voceditenore (talk) 09:39, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Berklee Spring 2015 - followup

Hi IJ. Many thanks for your kind message. I've seen a lot of good work this year! I've especially enjoyed it because in the past I've generally been travelling when the Berklee students were nearing the end of their assignments and hadn't been able to help much.

Some of the students ran into copyright problems this year. In one case, the subject was so notable with lots of incoming links that I reworked much of the material myself and moved it into article space. In another, the close-paraphrasing/copying was relatively minor, and I fixed it. In the remaining two cases, I had to vastly truncate the drafts. (Their original versions are still available in their sandbox page histories, though.) The extent of the copyright violation was such that it constituted a legal issue and we are obliged to remove it on sight. Unfortunately for those two students, I only discovered it three days ago, which doesn't leave them much time to re-write before the assignment deadline. But I'm happy to work with them flat out today and tomorrow on their new drafts, if that would help. I've got their talk pages and sandboxes on watch.

Since lots of new editors make the mistake of assuming that anything available on the internet is "free" to copy onto Wikipedia, it might be a good idea to make Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources required reading at the start of the semester and perhaps discuss it in class as well. That page has good clear advice for beginners on how to avoid copyright problems, with lots of links to more detailed copyright guidance pages. Although not a legal issue, another problem with copying verbatim from websites (even when they explicitly grant permission for their text to be freely copied) is that in almost all cases the material is too promotional and/or unencyclopedic in tone and would need a complete re-write to make it suitable for an article here.

Anyhow, please tell your class how much I have enjoyed working with them and wish them all the best from me. I always learn something new from working with your students! Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:26, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi IJ. Me again. Just a note about the remaining student work. Two are still in Draft space and awaiting review from Articles for Creation reviewers. I very much doubt they will be accepted without further work. There simply aren't enough independent sources which confirm the subjects meeting Wikipedia's criteria for an article. I'll keep them on my watch list. The third is a possible addition to an existing article being worked on in the student's sandbox. This also has a way to go for a variety of reasons which I have explained on the student's talk page. I'll keep that one on watch as well along with the target article. All the best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:28, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

The students' user pages

Hi IJ. One of your students received a speedy deletion notice for their user page. See here. I've removed the speedy deletion tag and explained to the patroller that the user is part of a class getting ready to do their assignments on Wikipedia, and that their user pages were their first steps. Having said that, it would be wise for the students to make their profiles much more concise and more closely related to what their future work here will be. I recommend they also include a section explicitly about what they plan to work on here. A user page consisting solely of an extensive essay-like autobiography and personal musings where the user has made no other contributions to Wikipedia is contrary to Wikipedia's guidelines on user pages and tends to ring alarm bells for patrollers. They patrol all new pages to check that they are within the guidelines, not simply those in article space. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:22, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Ping

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Voceditenore (talk) 07:31, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Buon Natale

May you and all your students have very Happy Holidays

and a New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music!

Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 18:53, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Spring 2016 Longy and Berklee

Hi IJ! Ive got the class pages for both conservatories on watch, but usually by now the students will have started signing up. Are the classes still going ahead? I'll be away April 5–26, so can only be of very limited help during that period, but will be happy to assist both before and after that. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 12:42, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

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Draft:Jonathan Wandag

Hi IJ. After your message on my talk page, I've had a look at the draft and done some editing on it, including adding several references and removing inappropriate ones. Note that LinkedIn and Facebook pages are not considered reliable sources and should not be used as references, and neither they nor any other coverage of the subject which is written by the subject attest to the subject's notability, although their official website can be used to source basic facts, e.g. place of birth, etc. but not self-serving claims. The "appeal process" for a draft is to improve it and then resubmit. However, even with the additional references I added, I wouldn't be comfortable moving this draft into article space. The notability criteria are at WP:MUSICBIO. The problem is, there is no multiple in-depth coverage of Wandag as a person in notable publications, nor is there in-depth coverage of his work. The closest I could find of the latter was "Review: Song of the Deep in High-Def Digest, which devotes two sentences to the music. The others just list him in the credits. The FilAm Creative interview is simply not enough for the former, and I could find nothing else. Had he won a Hollywood Music in Media Award instead of simply being nominated, he might have scraped a pass. The other alternative is for you or any of your other auto-confirmed students to move the draft yourselves into article space by clicking on the "More" tab and then clicking on "Move" and taking your chances. Complete instructions on moving a page are here. If you do that, you might get lucky and it will stay in article space. However, it might well be nominated for deletion fairly quickly instead, and in my view it would probably stand less than a 50/50 chance of being kept.

Another perhaps more realistic possibility is to add a "Score" section to Song of the Deep, using as references the review in High-Def Digest and this source for the Hollywood Music in Media Awards Best Original Video Game Score nomination. A couple of brief sentences about the composer would also be appropriate there using the FilAm Creative interview. A redirect page for his name which redirects to that section can also be created. (I can do that for the student, if he/she decides to go that route). When Wandag's career becomes more established, and he and his music receive more in-depth coverage or he wins a major award, the redirect can always be turned into a stand-alone article, but I agree with the reviewer that now is probably too soon. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:37, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

To you and all your Berklee students...

May you all have very Happy Holidays

and a New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music!

Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 13:12, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Auguri

May you have very Happy Holidays, Isaiah ...

and a New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music for you, your family, and all your students!

Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 07:14, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Berklee Spring 2018

Hi IJ! I see the first one of your brood has arrived. As always, I shall happy to keep an eye on them. You might also want to caution the students about revealing their real names on their user pages. Many Wikipedia editors do, but they may want to consider keeping their privacy. If they do use their real names, they should avoid revealing identifying information such as date of birth, address, etc. Anyhow, looking forward to the new recruits. Some of the Fall 2017 students produced some really good contributions. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

• Hi IJ, me again with some questions and observations about the Spring 2018 assignment. When was the assignment due? I ask because most of the students stopped editing after 8–10 April. Only one reached out to me for advice, which I was unable to give until I returned from a 3 week trip to California at the end of April. See here. But I have had no further communication from the student and he/she has no made further changes to the draft.

There are two other student drafts, Draft:Heavy metal music in the Middle East and Draft:Virtual Reality and Music Education in 2018, both of which are on notable subjects and have considerable potential, However, they require some work to make them suitable for article space. I have left substantial comments/suggestions on the drafts themselves and notified the students, but so far there has been no response or further work on the drafts. The first of these (Draft:Heavy metal music in the Middle East) had an additional problem in that a considerable amount of the text had been copy-pasted from other websites. I've had to remove it as a copyright violation. I would encourage those two students to return to work on those drafts if it is feasible. If the drafts go for 6 months without further edits, they will be automatically deleted. That would be a pity, as they do have potential.

Other student work has been quite successful especially the new articles, Indigenous metal music and Guabina, and the substantial additions to several other articles such as Boston Red Sox, Graphic notation (music), etc. Bravo!

Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:15, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Buone Feste!

May you, your family, all your Berklee students have very Happy Holidays ...

and a New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music!

Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 08:48, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

May you have very Happy Holidays, IJ ...

and a New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music.

Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 06:26, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

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AfC rejections

Hi IJ! Re your query about appealing AfC rejections... There's no formal appeal process, apart from re-submitting a draft with improvements or asking an experienced editor for a second opinion, i.e. someone like me. However, I generally do not approve drafts that in my view have less than a 50% chance of surviving an Articles for Deletion discussion. There is another alternative. The students or you can simply move their drafts into article space yourselves and take whatever fate dishes out. Once moved into article space, a draft needs to be cleaned up—all the AfC submission templates etc. removed and categories added. If any of the students do go that route, let me know and I can assist with the clean up, adding banners to the talk page, etc. I've had a look at what appear to be the sole remaining drafts, all of which have been rejected at least once.

• Draft:Parisalexa (musician) This one is unlikely to be accepted. She appears to be very much at the start of her career. If moved into article space it would need much better sourcing than simple links to the lyrics of her songs or brief mentions. If that could be remedied (and the citations properly formatted instead of bare URLs), the student could try moving this herself, but there's more than a 50% chance that it would be nominated for deletion.

• Draft:Rick Beato This is very borderline. If he was the songwriter for two platinum recordings he might pass Wikipedia:COMPOSER. But the referencing at the moment is largely from Beato himself. I'll add some external links to the draft which are a bit more independent. The student could try incorporating those into the draft and then take a chance on moving it into article space.

• Draft:Liuqin's History This is redundant to Liuqin, a much more complete article with a well-developed history section.

• Draft:Valerie Anne Jones Francis I'm not seeing sufficient evidence of notability here at all. The referencing is also quite poor. It would need significant, in-depth coverage of her in completely independent sources. It's also not written from a neutral point of view—great as a magazine article but not as an encyclopedia article. I honestly wouldn't recommend moving this to article space. Also the accompanying photo appears to be a copyright violation from here and not the student's own work.
• Draft:The Archer This is another very borderline one. It does have two reviews now. It only had one when it was submitted and rejected. It might be worth the student taking a chance on moving it herself, but the tone needs work, especially the subjective description of her music and it's very short. Perhaps it would be better to add this material to the article for the artist Alexandra Savior.

Hope that helps. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:18, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Buon Natale!

May you have very Happy Holidays, Isaiah ...

and a safe New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music.

Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 10:31, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia Resource Exchange

Hi there Isaiah. I pinged you earlier, but seeing that you haven't edited since January, figured that it might have gone unnoticed and that a talk-page message might be more noticeable. There's currently a request on the resource exchange for a source that has proven difficult to track down, but that your Berklee library privileges might conquer—all from the comfort of your armchair. If you have a moment and would be able to help out, it would certainly be appreciated (but of course, no worries if not). If you are able, the relevant details for accessing the source are in my 26 February 2021 message at the link above. Cheers, --Usernameunique (talk) 05:52, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi again, I just responded on my talk page. I think you should have received a ping (as described in my talk-page post), but posting here as well in case you didn't. --Usernameunique (talk) 22:31, 22 March 2021 (UTC)