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Re: tranmere

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January 2014

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Please do not add or change content, as you did to Manchester Spartans, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:35, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

I played for them for many years, does that count as a source?Dave006 (talk) 15:36, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

No; content needs to be verifiable by reliable sources. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Wirral wolves. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Mattythewhite (talk) 11:41, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

it is sourced, I have messed up the ref links. I am working on it now, will be sorted today, can you help please? Dave006 (talk) 11:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

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Jonathan King

I'm sure you're editing with the best of intentions, but - given that the other recent editor is highly experienced and respected here, and you are, in comparison, a new editor - it might be prudent to pause for a while, explain what you are doing on the talk page in a bit more detail, and see whether any other editors are supportive of what you are seeking to achieve. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:54, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

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Please stop

Please stop tagging things with A1 when there is clear context present. Most of these have been notable subjects, but Vile Pervert may not be. However, A1 is definitely not appropriate as a tag. A1 is for things like 'Robert is a man with a funny dog' where neither Robert nor the dog can be identified. Peridon (talk) 17:57, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Dave006, I appreciate that you're trying to clean up Wikipedia, but you're going about it the wrong way. Please take a look at this page, which lists the various speedy deletion criteria: WP:CSD. A1 doesn't apply where you've been using it. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 18:11, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

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Peridon (talk) 18:09, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I would also give you a tip - see WP:3RR - continued reversion can lead to blocking for edit-warring. Peridon (talk) 18:12, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

did not know that? Thanks mate, I will follow that from now one, your a good un. Any other articles I should read asap please? (Dave006 (talk) 18:13, 7 January 2014 (UTC))

I'd suggest WP:CSD and WP:RS. I think you're on a hiding to nothing about Hedgehoppers and Terry Dactyl, but Pervert and Egg might not be notable and perhaps should be in the JK article. Neither is an A7, though. A7 is people, groups of people, named animals, web content and organised events (but not spontaneous riots or stage plays/musicals). Films, recordings and shows have to be WP:PROD or WP:AFD. Peridon (talk) 18:19, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I've taken your A1s and two wrong A7s off. Have a read first - there's no real rush. Best to get things right. Peridon (talk) 18:25, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Shaun Tuck

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Hey, Honest-john, as you can see, I've renamed your account, per your request. Please remember to use this as your username when you log in from now on! Also, just so you know, this rename only affects your account on enwiki; if you have accoutns at other Wikimedia sites, their names will not have changed, and if you want them to match, you'll have to request renames on each site individually, as well. Thanks, and happy editing! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 22:23, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't know why, but your last edit came up as being from your old user name rather than your new one. Someone in admin-land needs to advise you how to correct that. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:09, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I'm HitroMilanese. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living person on Fred Talbot, but that you didn’t support your changes with a citation to a reliable source, so I removed it. Wikipedia has a strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Hitro talk 10:05, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Re:Benefits Street

Because I'm in the middle of doing a copyedit. Please wait for me to complete this, then discuss any further changes you wish to make. Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:14, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Once again, kindly read the template I added to the top of the page. I hadn't actually finished copyediting, so it would be helpful if you'd wait a couple of hours for me to work on it. Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:19, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Please remember to be civil to other editors. Accusing someone of pushing an agenda goes against that principle. What I'm actually trying to do is improve the article by reorganising some of the information, and plan to reincorporate some of your changes. You removed some stuff earlier, which I've temporarily restored while I work on it. If you'll give me a couple of hours to edit the thing instead of complaining then it would make life a lot easier. Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:32, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

ok, I've done enough for tonight. As you'll see the changes you made are still included, and I've reorganised the article slightly in an attempt to present the information in a more structured way. More information is needed though. As I've said on the talk page we could do with an episode guide and more on the accusations of poverty porn, etc. I'll look into that tomorrow evening though. Paul MacDermott (talk) 00:14, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

No worries, John. I always intended to keep the changes you'd made as I thought it sounded better, but just to rearrange the text a bit. You're very welcome to review anything I've done though, and to add anything else you feel is relevant. I'd like to see this eventually go forward as a Good Article nominee as it covers an important subject that's generated a much needed debate. So far I've only managed to catch the first episode, but if you've seen more of the series you could perhaps help with the episode summary. I'll see what I can find this evening, but give me a shout if you can help. Thanks Paul MacDermott (talk) 16:19, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

my Mrs is addicted to it, but if i ask her there will be pages and pages!!lol. Agree, the interest in it is unreal, and has many sides. Going to be hard to get all of them over in the article. I will not do anything to the article mate, will wait till you finish and then just list things that I think can be improved and we will go from there. GA status it will be!Honest-john (talk) 16:25, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. I suppose Google seems to be churning out more left-leaning than right-leaning news articles, but that may be because at least two of the papers from the right (The Sun and The Times) are subscription only so don't tend to show up in searches. I don't think the newspaper's politics matters so much for background and general information, but we need both perspectives as regards the reception. If you can find anything from The Telegraph, the Mail, etc, that covers the same information give me a shout and I'll be happy to add them. Paul MacDermott (talk) 19:11, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi again John, I'm just about done with the expansion now, so it's over to you. Hopefully it's as balanced as it can be. One or two things are a bit patchy, for example I couldn't seem to find who originally described it as poverty porn, so more research is needed on that. Ian Burrell's article from 7 January is the earliest I can find, but that seems to suggest others had already used it. Let me know what you think anyway, and feel free to add any information I've overlooked. Cheers. Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:38, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I notice you haven't edited for a few days, so hope you're still keeping up to date with the article. Episode 4 airs tonight so no doubt there'll be a fresh batch of news stories to sift through. I want to apologise for reverting you the other day. The template on your user page set a few alarm bells ringing as someone has suspected your account of being a sockpuppet of a blocked user. You might want to address that in some way, perhaps by removing it or adding a statement somewhere that you're not the sock of Trfc06 (talk · contribs) or something like that. I'll leave it with you anyway, and look forward to reading your thoughts on the article so far. Paul MacDermott (talk) 13:59, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Use of minor edits tick box

Sorry if I'm being a pain, but you've been making a number of edits recently that aren't minor but you are marking them minor. Eg there was one where your edit summary made it clear it wasn't minor when you wrote "important to show how extreme the child images were". Minor edits are correcting grammar, typos, formatting, etc. More or less anything else is not minor. Dougweller (talk) 13:13, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

sorry and understood.Honest-john (talk) 13:21, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated. Dougweller (talk) 15:17, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Protocols

Sorry we got off on the wrong foot, it honestly looked like you were implying the Protocols weren't a hoax. If you've got fresh stuff, either post them to the talk page as an edit request or (favourite) just wade in and add the material to the article, referenced of course. I think you now pass the autoconfirmed criteria for the page. Welcome to Wikipedia. Fiddlersmouth (talk) 22:53, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

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