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Syed is part of name
Hi there, as your recent edit on Syed Jawad Naqvi, you removed the surname “Syed” ... Syed is name not title... if you want to remove syed from the name then remove “syed” from all article for example Syed Sajid Ali Naqvi, Syed Ali raza rizvi , Syed Aqeel-ul-Gharavi, Syed Sibit Hassan Naqvi and all which contain syed surname.... So kindly moving the page , first discuss on talk page...thank you DrMosaviSyed (talk) 05:57, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hello. Please see WP:CONSENSUS, and discuss the name prior to moving again, to establish consensus on what name the page should reside at. EggRoll97 (talk) 20:24, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
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I am Elizabeth Helgelien and I corrected information ob my wikipedia page and for some reason it keeps getting changed back to incorrect information Getitright2024 (talk) 00:10, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Getitright2024: If you are indeed Elizabeth Helgelien, you should not be editing on a page that you have a conflict of interest with. You can read the relevant policy at WP:COI. EggRoll97 (talk) 00:12, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- why dont you want correct and accurate factual information on Wikipedia? Getitright2024 (talk) 00:14, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Getitright2024: If the information is accurate and correct, you should be able to back up your assertations with reliable sources. Given that you have failed to do so, the changes you made to the page you claim is yours are not acceptable. EggRoll97 (talk) 00:15, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- ok where do I submit the factual information/evidence? Getitright2024 (talk) 00:17, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Getitright2024: You can include it with your edit using the {{Cite}} template, but given that you have a declared conflict of interest with the article subject (by your own claim of being the subject yourself), it may be better to file an edit request. EggRoll97 (talk) 00:24, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- ok I'll have someone else do it so its actually factual for once Getitright2024 (talk) 00:25, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Getitright2024: You can include it with your edit using the {{Cite}} template, but given that you have a declared conflict of interest with the article subject (by your own claim of being the subject yourself), it may be better to file an edit request. EggRoll97 (talk) 00:24, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- ok where do I submit the factual information/evidence? Getitright2024 (talk) 00:17, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Getitright2024: If the information is accurate and correct, you should be able to back up your assertations with reliable sources. Given that you have failed to do so, the changes you made to the page you claim is yours are not acceptable. EggRoll97 (talk) 00:15, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- why dont you want correct and accurate factual information on Wikipedia? Getitright2024 (talk) 00:14, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
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When you moved Chorki to the base name you should have added a hatnote to the other use. I've now done that. Thanks, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:04, 1 September 2023 (UTC) {{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveNow}}
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International Bamboo and Rattan Organisation
Hi, please could you reconsider your close at this page? MOS:RETAIN is very clear that changes in established English variety should not be made without ties to a particular country. I disputed this move already, and this sort of thing just sows division for Jo good reason. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 07:25, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Amakuru: I've taken another look at the closure and MOS:RETAIN, stating in part,
When an English variety's consistent usage has been established in an article, maintain it in the absence of consensus to the contrary.
I don't see any consistent usage for "organisation", and in fact it appears the article and sourcing present in the references section utilizes "organization". In addition, the discussion had unanimous consensus to change the article titling to "organization" from "organisation" with no objections. EggRoll97 (talk) 01:52, 14 September 2023 (UTC)- I see, thank you. — Amakuru (talk) 16:05, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
List of years in Georgia (country)
Would you be willing to consider a relist of this RM? The two late supporters suggest the discussion is continuing, and there may not really be a consensus. They also brought into the discussion a related RM that is still open. Also, one of the opposers invoked me (the nom) as a reason for their oppose, which merits clarification. Cheers, Mdewman6 (talk) 21:42, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Mdewman6: I'm willing to give it another run, I've reversed and relisted. EggRoll97 (talk) 02:15, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! I just think this is a case where making the distinction between whether this is truly a "not moved" or if there is really no consensus is worth the extra time for discussion. Mdewman6 (talk) 17:42, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
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I see you've closed a requested move for Draft:While We're Young (Jhené Aiko song) to pave a way for an article by saying that it can go through AfC approval, my apologies but I don't think that was a way to go and as a NPR I believe you checked the draft's notability and if it is suitable to be in main space or not and even if it wasn't it can be AfDd or draftified. So are you suggesting I submit the draft to AfC approval or...? dxneo (talk) 12:49, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Dxneo: An objection was lodged by a fellow NPR that the article did not meet WP:NSONG, seen here. The article still needs work before being included in mainspace. EggRoll97 (talk) 17:36, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- As I recall, a certified record is a criterion for notability thus can be stubbed, it states here that "a stub should contain enough information for other editors to expand upon it" of which I believe the above mentioned draft have. I have asked an admin about this matter here. I could have created the article directly in mainspace as I'm "autoreviewed" but I obviously could not, also would have expanded the page (a little) but I was held up thus I stubbed it, Robertsky, your thoughts on this? dxneo (talk) 18:12, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Coming back to it again, not opposed to moving (though I still have lingering doubts), but would like to hear Robertsky's opinion prior to doing so unilaterally. EggRoll97 (talk) 00:57, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- I was taking a stricter interpretation of the various NSONG criteria, i.e.
Has been ranked on national or significant music or sales charts. (Note again that this indicates only that a song may be notable, not that it is notable.)
, with emphasis on the may be part. My take is that for the stub to stand, there is at least one other non-database source. Nonetheless, if there are other who thinks it can pass in its current form, sure go ahead and move it. – robertsky (talk) 05:36, 16 October 2023 (UTC)- Hello robertsky and EggRoll97, I believe now the draft meets the minimum requirements listed under WP:NSONG, I was wondering if you could please move it and also make way for Draft:Sativa to Sativa (Jhené Aiko song) while you're at it. Thank you.
dxneo (talk) 12:52, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hello robertsky and EggRoll97, I believe now the draft meets the minimum requirements listed under WP:NSONG, I was wondering if you could please move it and also make way for Draft:Sativa to Sativa (Jhené Aiko song) while you're at it. Thank you.
- I was taking a stricter interpretation of the various NSONG criteria, i.e.
- Coming back to it again, not opposed to moving (though I still have lingering doubts), but would like to hear Robertsky's opinion prior to doing so unilaterally. EggRoll97 (talk) 00:57, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- As I recall, a certified record is a criterion for notability thus can be stubbed, it states here that "a stub should contain enough information for other editors to expand upon it" of which I believe the above mentioned draft have. I have asked an admin about this matter here. I could have created the article directly in mainspace as I'm "autoreviewed" but I obviously could not, also would have expanded the page (a little) but I was held up thus I stubbed it, Robertsky, your thoughts on this? dxneo (talk) 18:12, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Dxneo: @Robertsky: Moved both to mainspace. EggRoll97 (talk) 14:03, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks @Dxneo. I have also given my green ticks, and done some slight clean ups. The chart tables seem funky, and I can't figure what's wrong with the table when comparing to the documentation of {{single chart}}. – robertsky (talk) 14:28, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Robertsky, thanks, I just noticed that when I added the cover art, I also don't see the problem with the template and parameters 'cause when I turn to visual editor it looks fine but it still doesn't stick. dxneo (talk) 14:33, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks @Dxneo. I have also given my green ticks, and done some slight clean ups. The chart tables seem funky, and I can't figure what's wrong with the table when comparing to the documentation of {{single chart}}. – robertsky (talk) 14:28, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The copy patrol has already been reviewed as "no action needed" due to the external site being a wikipedia mirror", and the copyvio template you have put was done against policy due to there not ever being a copyvio. PaulGamerBoy360 (talk) 00:54, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- The copy patrol was reviewed by you, which is problematic given that you clearly have a conflict of interest as the article's creator. EggRoll97 (talk) 01:03, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- except for the fact that i actually reviewed both pages and followed policy, when marking it as no action needed because policy states that if the "copyvio" is for a wikipedia mirror it does not qualify as a copyvio, and the page literally says that the article is from wikipedia. PaulGamerBoy360 (talk) 01:16, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- The copy patrol was reviewed by you, which is problematic given that you clearly have a conflict of interest as the article's creator. EggRoll97 (talk) 01:03, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- The copy patrol has already been reviewed as "no action needed" due to the external site being a wikipedia mirror", and the copyvio template you have put was done against policy due to there not ever being a copyvio. PaulGamerBoy360 (talk) 00:54, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
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I don't think you need to mark the private hits as pinned - the page is patrolled frequently and the bot shouldn't be archiving the sections that are unresolved and have only been open a short period. It just adds a bit of extra (human) processing to see that the note is just saying that the section needs to be addressed, rather than about the filter it itself. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 04:19, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
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I am asking about your move of Cosimo III de' Medici, Grand Duke of Tuscany. Five people objected, some strongly. Four supported, one semi-supported. That seems pretty contested. How would you call that "consensus to move"? The instructions for RM closing are to default to the stable page when no consensus is reached. This page has been stable for 15 years. Where did you find consensus? Walrasiad (talk) 02:58, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
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is explicitly about British peers, not sovereign grand dukes
. EggRoll97 (talk) 04:57, 7 January 2024 (UTC)- Thank you for your reply.
- They were mistating the criteria misleadingly. There's nothing "exceptional" about British peers. The criteria in WP:NCPEER explicitly refers to European peers: "
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". So I don't see why you consider the assertion that it only applies to British dukes and not Italian dukes to be valid. (And BTW, these are not sovereigns - they are fiefdoms and vassals of the Holy Roman Empire, vested with imperial vicariate decrees, and owing tribute and troop contributions to the Emperor down until 1806. e.g.). - I don't want to re-argue the details here. But if the criteria is questionable or ambivalent, that doesn't seem to be sufficient for deducing "consensus". It was contested, and vigorously so. Even if you don't think there's consensus against the move, clearly there was not a consensus for it. If you found it narrower than usual, as you admit, default should have been to retain the page as is. Walrasiad (talk) 05:53, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Walrasiad: Thank you for the response. I didn't mean to imply that the discussion itself was an overall close call. My meaning was that while I did find that there was consensus to move the pages, strictly counting the !votes would be a close call. However, that doesn't imply a consensus not to move the pages. I of course respect that there were some who were quite passionate in their opposition, but ultimately there were stronger arguments in support of the move. If you found my closure out of process, I encourage you to take it to move review, but I respectfully stand by my closure of the discussion, and my assessment of consensus. EggRoll97 (talk) 08:42, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- You say you didn't find a "consensus not to move". But that's not the criteria. If there is "no consensus", then the page should remain at its most stable title. I am asking where you found a "consensus to move" rather than "no consensus". Walrasiad (talk) 19:13, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Walrasiad: I did not say I "didn't find a consensus not to move". I said I found a consensus to move, based on policy arguments already laid out in the discussion. Once again, if you still believe my closure was out of process, I encourage move review. EggRoll97 (talk) 20:47, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- You say you didn't find a "consensus not to move". But that's not the criteria. If there is "no consensus", then the page should remain at its most stable title. I am asking where you found a "consensus to move" rather than "no consensus". Walrasiad (talk) 19:13, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Walrasiad: Thank you for the response. I didn't mean to imply that the discussion itself was an overall close call. My meaning was that while I did find that there was consensus to move the pages, strictly counting the !votes would be a close call. However, that doesn't imply a consensus not to move the pages. I of course respect that there were some who were quite passionate in their opposition, but ultimately there were stronger arguments in support of the move. If you found my closure out of process, I encourage you to take it to move review, but I respectfully stand by my closure of the discussion, and my assessment of consensus. EggRoll97 (talk) 08:42, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks for fixing the Saguenay mess
My apologies. Looks like it was a fair bit of work. I think I've got it straightened out now, after doing some research in the 1850 statutes. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 01:03, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Sir why you protect Siyal(caste) page this page totally wrong theory.
This source was proved siyal and chamar different caste. (1) Singh, K.S.: People of India: Odisha (2 pts), 1992, by the Anthropological Survey of India (2) Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Research and Training Institute (SCSTRTI), Odisha (3) Orissa (India). Tribal Research Bureau: Adibasi, 1969 (4) The Scheduled Caste Population in Odisha book (5) Alte, I.D.: Rural Employment of Scheduled Castes, 1992 (6) Mishra, P.K.: Harijans in Hindu and Tribal Social Structures, 1992 (7) Hunter, W.: *Orissa: Vol. II (in French)*, 2023 Das, N.K.: Odisha, 2012 (8) Pati, R.N.: Family Planning, 2008 Ramachbehera1 (talk) 04:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Ramachbehera1: I didn't protect the page, only administrators can do that. The page was protected in accordance with general sanctions authorized by the wider community, and any uninvolved administrator is able to enforce page protection, among a list of other page- and user-related sanctions, in accordance with WP:CASTE, enforced on the Siyal page as extended confirmed protection, meaning you will need a tenure of 30 days and at least 500 constructive edits to the encyclopedia in order to edit that page, seen here. EggRoll97 (talk) 20:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sir please help me how to edit this article? Ramachbehera1 (talk) 08:26, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- (by talk reader) @Ramachbehera1: You are not allowed. Clearly, you should not be editing Wikipedia. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:30, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sir please help me how to edit this article? Ramachbehera1 (talk) 08:26, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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Question about abuse of edit filters
I plan to be an edit filter helper next year on February or March of 2025, intending to assist with authoring filters using my basic knowledge of filter syntax. There is one question for me whose answer I might need to know: what is abuse of edit filters
that's listed on WP:EFH?
If this might be a private matter, feel free to email me or simply respond here. Thank you. Codename Noreste 🤔 talk 16:22, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Codename Noreste: Replied via email per WP:BEANS. EggRoll97 (talk) 01:59, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024
Hello EggRoll97,
Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to Schminnte, who led with over 2,300 points.
Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.
Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.
It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated!
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- Responded. EggRoll97 (talk) 02:27, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
EFM
I have closed your request at EFN as successful, congratulations! Please remember to use a strong password, consider enabling 2FA, etc. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 22:59, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! I already have both of these implemented! EggRoll97 (talk) 23:18, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-15
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Web browsers can use tools called extensions. There is now a Chrome extension called Citation Needed which you can use to see if an online statement is supported by a Wikipedia article. This is a small experiment to see if Wikipedia can be used this way. Because it is a small experiment, it can only be used in Chrome in English.
A new Edit Recovery feature has been added to all wikis, available as a user preference. Once you enable it, your in-progress edits will be stored in your web browser, and if you accidentally close an editing window or your browser or computer crashes, you will be prompted to recover the unpublished text. Please leave any feedback on the project talk page. This was the #8 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.- Initial results of Edit check experiments have been published. Edit Check is now deployed as a default feature at the wikis that tested it. Let us know if you want your wiki to be part of the next deployment of Edit check. [1][2]
- Readers using the Minerva skin on mobile will notice there has been an improvement in the line height across all typography settings. [3]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar). [4][5]- New accounts and logged-out users will get the visual editor as their default editor on mobile. This deployment is made at all wikis except for the English Wikipedia. [6]
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On IP 62.31.29.48 talk page
Hello, I'm The Master of Hedgehogs. I noticed you reverted my edit, citing WP:BITE and WP:AGF. I use RedWarn, and if you go to warn a user with RedWarn, it states that level one warnings, like the one I applied, assume good faith. I wasn't intending on BITEing the IP, and they had received a welcome message from another user a long time ago. If you have any concerns, reach out to me on my talk page. The Master of Hedgehogs (converse) (hedgehogs) 18:26, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Feel free to see my response on your talk page. EggRoll97 (talk) 18:33, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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I've sent an update about that proposed private filter accompanied with a message. Codename Noreste 🤔 𝙇𝙖 𝙎𝙪𝙢𝙖 23:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Codename Noreste: That update needs to be sent to the mailing list, please. EggRoll97 (talk) 04:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-16
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Between 2 April and 8 April, on wikis using Flagged Revisions, the "Reverted" tag was not applied to undone edits. In addition, page moves, protections and imports were not autoreviewed. This problem is now fixed. [7][8]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar). [9][10]
- Default category sort keys will now affect categories added by templates placed in footnotes. Previously footnotes used the page title as the default sort key even if a different default sort key was specified (category-specific sort keys already worked). [11]
- A new variable
page_last_edit_agewill be added to abuse filters. It tells how many seconds ago the last edit to a page was made. [12]
Future changes
- Volunteer developers are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle temporary accounts. Learn more.
Four database fields will be removed from database replicas (including Quarry). This affects only the abuse_filterandabuse_filter_historytables. Some queries might need to be updated. [13]
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Tech News: 2024-17
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Starting this week, newcomers editing Wikipedia will be encouraged to try structured tasks. Structured tasks have been shown to improve newcomer activation and retention. [14]
- You can nominate your favorite tools for the fifth edition of the Coolest Tool Award. Nominations will be open until May 10.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 April. It will be on all wikis from 25 April (calendar). [15][16]
Future changes
- This is the last warning that by the end of May 2024 the Vector 2022 skin will no longer share site and user scripts/styles with old Vector. For user-scripts that you want to keep using on Vector 2022, copy the contents of Special:MyPage/vector.js to Special:MyPage/vector-2022.js. There are more technical details available. Interface administrators who foresee this leading to lots of technical support questions may wish to send a mass message to your community, as was done on French Wikipedia. [17]
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I have a quick request regarding an edit filter
Hello,
For the Rcat filter (1298) could you make it add the redirects to a maintenance category through the filter? Would they be removed when rcats are added? 
Thanks Geardona (talk to me?) 12:10, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Geardona: I don't see any way to have the filter explicitly do that. It seems like a task for a bot though, to just add the category automatically to any page hit by the filter, then remove when an rcat exists. I'll look into it later in a bit more detail, but I'm not seeing any way to do that at the moment, given that the filter generally only affects the edit itself, but can't actually manipulate a page directly. (It can disallow an edit, it can tag an edit, but it can't modify edits or modify pages.) EggRoll97 (talk) 14:04, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, no problem! Geardona (talk to me?) 14:21, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2024-18
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
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- The appearance of talk pages changed for the following wikis: Azerbaijani Wikipedia, Bengali Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, Persian Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Korean Wikipedia, Dutch Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikipedia, Romanian Wikipedia, Thai Wikipedia, Turkish Wikipedia, Ukrainian Wikipedia, Vietnamese Wikipedia. These wikis participated to a test, where 50% of users got the new design, for one year. As this test gave positive results, the new design is deployed on these wikis as the default design. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences ("Show discussion activity"). The deployment will happen at all wikis in the coming weeks. [18]
- Seven new wikis have been created:
- You can now watch message groups/projects on Translatewiki.net. Initially, this feature will notify you of added or deleted messages in these groups. [26]
- Dark mode is now available on all wikis, on mobile web for logged-in users who opt into the advanced mode. This is the early release of the feature. Technical editors are invited to check for accessibility issues on wikis. See more detailed guidelines.
Problems
- Kartographer maps can use an alternative visual style without labels, by using
mapstyle="osm". This wasn't working in previews, creating the wrong impression that it wasn't supported. This has now been fixed. [27]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 May. It will be on all wikis from 2 May (calendar). [28][29]
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Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C
- You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki. Please help translate to other languages.
Dear Wikimedian,
You are receiving this message because you previously participated in the UCoC process.
This is a reminder that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) ends on May 9, 2024. Read the information on the voting page on Meta-wiki to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.
The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.
Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.
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Tech News: 2024-19
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The appearance of talk pages changed for all wikis, except for Commons, Wikidata and most Wikipedias (a few have already received this design change). You can read the detail of the changes on Diff. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences ("Show discussion activity"). The deployment will happen at remaining wikis in the coming weeks. [30][31]
- Interface admins now have greater control over the styling of article components on mobile with the introduction of the
SiteAdminHelper. More information on how styles can be disabled can be found at the extension's page. [32] - Wikimedia Enterprise has added article body sections in JSON format and a curated short description field to the existing parsed Infobox. This expansion to the API is also available via Wikimedia Cloud Services. [33]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 May. It will be on all wikis from 9 May (calendar). [34][35]
- When you look at the Special:Log page, the first view is labelled "All public logs", but it only shows some logs. This label will now say "Main public logs". [36]
Future changes
- A new service will be built to replace Extension:Graph. Details can be found in the latest update regarding this extension.
- Starting May 21, English Wikipedia and German Wikipedia will get the possibility to activate "Add a link". This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to all Wikipedias. These communities can activate and configure the feature locally. [37]
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Tech News: 2024-20
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- On Wikisource there is a special page listing pages of works without corresponding scan images. Now you can use the new magic word
__EXPECTWITHOUTSCANS__to exclude certain pages (list of editions or translations of works) from that list. [38] - If you use the user-preference "Show preview without reloading the page", then the template-page feature "Preview page with this template (what's this?)" will now also work without reloading the page. [39]
- Kartographer maps can now specify an alternative text via the
alt=attribute. This is identical in usage to thealt=attribute in the image and gallery syntax. An exception for this feature is wikis like Wikivoyage where the miniature maps are interactive. [40] - The old Guided Tour for the "New Filters for Edit Review" feature has been removed. It was created in 2017 to show people with older accounts how the interface had changed, and has now been seen by most of the intended people. [41]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 May. It will be on all wikis from 16 May (calendar). [42][43]
- The Special:Search results page will now use CSS flex attributes, for better accessibility, instead of a table. If you have a gadget or script that adjusts search results, you should update your script to the new HTML structure. [44]
Future changes
- In the Vector 2022 skin, main pages will be displayed at full width (like special pages). The goal is to keep the number of characters per line large enough. This is related to the coming changes to typography in Vector 2022. Learn more. [45]
- Two columns of the
pagelinksdatabase table (pl_namespaceandpl_title) are being dropped soon. Users must use two columns of the newlinktargettable instead (lt_namespaceandlt_title). In your existing SQL queries:- Replace
JOIN pagelinkswithJOIN linktargetandpl_withlt_in theONstatement - Below that add
JOIN pagelinks ON lt_id = pl_target_id
- See phab:T222224 for technical reasoning. [46][47]
- Replace
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Tech News: 2024-21
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. [48]
- New changes have been made to the UploadWizard in Wikimedia Commons: the overall layout has been improved, by following new styling and spacing for the form and its fields; the headers and helper text for each of the fields was changed; the Caption field is now a required field, and there is an option for users to copy their caption into the media description. [49][50]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 May. It will be on all wikis from 23 May (calendar). [51][52]
- The HTML used to render all headings is being changed to improve accessibility. It will change on 22 May in some skins (Timeless, Modern, CologneBlue, Nostalgia, and Monobook). Please test gadgets on your wiki on these skins and report any related problems so that they can be resolved before this change is made in all other skins. The developers are also considering the introduction of a Gadget API for adding buttons to section titles if that would be helpful to tool creators, and would appreciate any input you have on that.
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Tech News: 2024-22
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Several bugs related to the latest updates to the UploadWizard on Wikimedia Commons have been fixed. For more information, see T365107 and T365119.
- In March 2024 a new addPortlet API was added to allow gadgets to create new portlets (menus) in the skin. In certain skins this can be used to create dropdowns. Gadget developers are invited to try it and give feedback.
- Some CSS in the Minerva skin has been removed to enable easier community configuration. Interface editors should check the rendering on mobile devices for aspects related to the classes:
.collapsible,.multicol,.reflist,.coordinates,.topicon. Further details are available on replacement CSS if it is needed.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 May. It will be on all wikis from 30 May (calendar). [53][54]
- When you visit a wiki where you don't yet have a local account, local rules such as edit filters can sometimes prevent your account from being created. Starting this week, MediaWiki takes your global rights into account when evaluating whether you can override such local rules. [55]
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Tech News: 2024-23
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- It is now possible for local administrators to add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without JavaScript. Documentation is available. [56]
- The message name for the definition of the tracking category of WikiHiero has changed from "
MediaWiki:Wikhiero-usage-tracking-category" to "MediaWiki:Wikihiero-usage-tracking-category". [57] - One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in Kadazandusun (
w:dtp:) [58]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 June. It will be on all wikis from 6 June (calendar). [59][60]
Future changes
- Next week, on wikis with the Vector 2022 skin as the default, logged-out desktop users will be able to choose between different font sizes. The default font size will also be increased for them. This is to make Wikimedia projects easier to read. Learn more.
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- Featured content: We didn't start the wiki
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Tech News: 2024-24
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The software used to render SVG files has been updated to a new version, fixing many longstanding bugs in SVG rendering. [61]
- The HTML used to render all headings is being changed to improve accessibility. It was changed last week in some skins (Vector legacy and Minerva). Please test gadgets on your wiki on these skins and report any related problems so that they can be resolved before this change is made in Vector-2022. The developers are still considering the introduction of a Gadget API for adding buttons to section titles if that would be helpful to tool creators, and would appreciate any input you have on that.
- The HTML markup used for citations by Parsoid changed last week. In places where Parsoid previously added the
mw-reference-textclass, Parsoid now also adds thereference-textclass for better compatibility with the legacy parser. More details are available. [62]
Problems
- There was a bug with the Content Translation interface that caused the tools menus to appear in the wrong location. This has now been fixed. [63]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 June. It will be on all wikis from 13 June (calendar). [64][65]
- The new version of MediaWiki includes another change to the HTML markup used for citations: Parsoid will now generate a
<span class="mw-cite-backlink">wrapper for both named and unnamed references for better compatibility with the legacy parser. Interface administrators should verify that gadgets that interact with citations are compatible with the new markup. More details are available. [66] - On multilingual wikis that use the
<translate>system, there is a feature that shows potentially-outdated translations with a pink background until they are updated or confirmed. From this week, confirming translations will be logged, and there is a new user-right that can be required for confirming translations if the community requests it. [67]
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