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The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q2 2016

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Re: [23], point taken, although I attempted to soften the tone with "I submit that", rather than presenting my opinion as indisputable fact as is too often done in talk spaces. That said, your comment should have gone to my talk page. I can't/won't respond at VPR, as it would take the thread further down that off-topic path, inviting responses to my response, to which I would respond, and so on until we have an off-topic wall that has to be collapsed. ―Mandruss  10:03, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Of course you're right, I should have kept that off-page. I'm removing my comment hoping that will prevent any possible escalation. Diego (talk) 11:36, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Removed mine too, as your subsequent comment rendered it unnecessary, and per "point taken". We shall now exchange appropriate barnstars. ;) ―Mandruss  12:11, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

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The Order of the Stick

Please note that the IP user has been edit-warring to keep this text in Rich Burlew, and even though it is being discussed on that article's talk page they added it to The Order of the Stick to get around the discussion. 73.168.15.161 (talk) 03:17, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

How is that in any way relevant? We judge content on its own merits, not the behaviour of the editors. Diego (talk) 07:45, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

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Return of the IP editor

The IP editor who was responsible for getting The Order of the Stick protected has returned with an account. Is this person banned or not? I was under the impression that the anonymous IPs were being banned because he didn't have an actual account. I've reverted his edits once - he was "restoring" his section again - but don't plan to do so again unless he actually is supposed to be banned.Eladynnus (talk) 21:57, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Anyone can edit Wikipedia, see WP:WRITERS and WP:BAN. Banning an editor for editing is an extremely severe action that is done as a last resort, requiring several increasingly threatening warnings and a formal discussion.
AFAIK no editor was blocked in this case. The article was semi-protected because several editors including yourself were edit-warring over it. Wanting to block other editors so that you can get your way is a WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality and is extremely frowned upon; in this case you'll have to learn what are the concerns of the other editor and work to reach a consensus. Diego (talk) 19:59, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
@Eladynnus: Contrary to what Diego is saying, the IP editor in case was banned on that IP and others for their disruptive behaviour and block evasion. See here and here. PeterTheFourth (talk) 22:24, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Right, I did not ask for Meelanasah to be banned, I asked for a clarification of his status on the site. It doesn't make sense that the semiprotection was to stop anyone except for Meelanasah from editing, since at the time he was the only IP editor editing the article. Given this, it seems strange that he would be allowed to continue editing after doing the bare minimum to create an autoconfirmed account. Eladynnus (talk) 04:55, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Why would it be strange? The admin who protected the article explicitly stated that it was a valid course of action for the IP editor. Do you find strange that anyone can edit Wikipedia by default? Diego (talk) 06:14, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
The correct version is: the two articles were semi-ed because of edit warring (by myself and both users PeterTheFourth and Eladynnus), as Diego correctly noticed then. After the protection i went to the administrator page (see here) complaining about the fact he did a pretty shallow analysis about what really happened. He claimed that i was an "IP-hopping edit warrior" while i was simply under a dynamic IP and ignoring that the aforementionet users reverted the article 6 times, treating as vandalism. Seeing that my complain was being ignored i've tried to open an incident on the administrator board and THAT's the moment i was blocked. Then i've logged once to write on the talk section of OotS more and i got blocked again. The important thing i feel to address in this, in my opinion, rather pointless argument, is that my ban is expired and i'm free to make an account and edit the article as long as i do not go against Wikipedia policies. That's exactly how Wikipedia works. Meelanasah (talk) 07:41, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
By the way, Diego, being myself a bit new to Wikipdia I'd like to ask you something. I've noticed, right now, that Eladynnus) has even contacted (see here) another previous administrator that was involved in the matter (talk), claiming that i did sockpuppetry (which i didn't, it should be clear right now) and that i wanted to do Edit Warring. Aside from false accusations, he did all of this without notifying me. Is this kind of behaviour punishable? Meelanasah (talk) 09:00, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
I'd say, not at this point. As I explained above, banning an editor is an extremely severe situation that shouldn't happen lightly. Such "false accusations" may instead be open to interpretation or be caused by misunderstandings, so they would be punishable only if they constituted sustained, long-term harassment. That you insulted administrator EdJohnston at his talk page and tried to report him for misbehaviour, doesn't help your case in the slightest.
I recommend that you thoroughly read our WP:CIVILITY policy and related guidelines; a practical principle is, "discuss the content of articles, not the behaviour of editors". You can request that other editors follow it, so that they won't trump your rights as a newcomer, but you must also abide by it at all times. Diego (talk) 20:33, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestions. I must say that i've insulted that moderator because he claimed something that wasn't true, but it was before my ban and before i've registered this account. The fact Eladynnus tried to engage Bbb23 plus the fact that PeterTheForth tried to engage EdJohnston plus the fact both of them and an unknown ip editor tried to say i was sockpuppetting without any kind of proof sounds like a bit "sustained harassment" for me. But, well, it appears the matter is closed now and frankly i got tired about it. If i'll be able to discuss about the section without problems then i'll just forget about all of this. Meelanasah (talk) 20:45, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Harassment would involve the editors following you to other unrelated discussions at other articles and antagonising you there as well. A small squabble over a single topic is par for the course, I'm afraid. Diego (talk) 20:56, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
I'd like to note that Meelanasah has been editing Wikipedia for over a year and is "new" in a very loose sense. Anyone who thinks my accusations of misconduct when it comes to consensus-building are unwarranted can read Talk:The_Order_of_the_Stick#Aggressive_IP_editor, which does not cover more recent edits. Eladynnus (talk) 21:31, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

About my last revert on the Order of the Stick article.

The problem here is that you reverted to peterthefort reduced version and i do not get why you did that. There was any consensus on the talk page aside from peterthefort changing the article ignoring everything i've tried to discuss? As i've stated in the talk page i've modified the article many times in order to accomodate the problems that were presented. Again: i do not have problem if everyone disagrees with me but it appears that peterthefourth did that "reduced version" edit without any consent. If you revert i won't revert it again, but i'd like to understand why that version became the "good one". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meelanasah (talkcontribs)

That is not a problem, and as you can see I did it very consciously (I previously reverted to your version, but then I pushed it back to the one where PeterTheFourth had made some removal, but not of the whole section). Building a full consensus at the talk page is not a hard requirement before trying to improve the article; in many cases, the process to achieve consensus is achieved through careful edits that move the article in your desired direction, while still keeping some parts of what the other editors want.
This is why I reverted to the version - it contained part of your desired content, and part of the desire by Peter to remove everything; in summary, it was a middle ground. Apparently the current version is still too far away from what Peter, Eladynnus and Grayfell will find acceptable given the quality of sources available; that's why I thought the slightly reduced version may be more acceptable to them, and finally accepted. The version you restored to has more probabilities of being further trimmed down, and therefore not final. Diego (talk) 12:30, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

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The main issue is that the current version is ALREADY a middle ground position. It's basically Amatulic initial revision with some rewording to be more neutral. Eladynnus proposed a sandbox version with very few information, petertheforth agreed because he would just like to see the section deleted so a section which contains basically no information is the closer that he can get to accomplish his goal. Neither of them actually addressed real issues, especially now that Grayfell is somewhat agreeing to reduce the weight of the section. There was no actual reason to reduce further the actual 3-rows paragraph other than "i don't like it". Now, of course, if even you decide that the correct "middle ground" position is a "section" which is composed by no actual information then fine, i'll just "surrender" to this system. Meelanasah (talk) 12:41, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
By the way, please do not indicate in the edit summary that i'm "agreeing with you". I'm not. I just said that i won't revert it again because i know i'll get punished if i do that. Meelanasah (talk) 12:43, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
There are many positions between two points :-) The current version is not Eladynnus' extreme version with the whole section trimmed down, and it's not your original version either which contained five paragraphs and six primary references. What you aren't seeing is that your position is actually weak, since neutrality policy requires articles to be based primarily in independent sources; a section based on statements by the author can therefore not be too long (even if it is not true that it can't exist without them). How much content to retain should thus be a balance between what most editor feel comfortable. Diego (talk) 12:54, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
P.S. And for the agreement - you agreed not to revert, which was enough for me to pursue a second edit without feeling that I was edit warring myself. If you stopped because you didn't want to break the rules, good. You can still continue discussing at the talk page if you don't like this version, but remember that the consensus version must also be acceptable by the three editors who want everything removed. Diego (talk) 12:54, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
The current version IS Eladynnus extreme version, just contained in a separate section. My original five paragraphs and six primary reference of the article is not the same version you edited now (which was basically a middle ground version by Amatulic which everyone was fine with some days ago). I agreed not to revert just because i knew that if i did that someone would have reported me. I'm really sorry that you fail to see that the actual version is not a middle ground position. It's nothing. Also, as far as i know, WP:MAJORITY is not an argument in discussion. I do not concur with your last edit, but it appears there's nothing i can do about it. Amen. Meelanasah (talk) 13:01, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Majority is not an argument when the majority don't have good arguments, but the people wanting to reduce the section also have some of those. Apparently not all were fine with Amatulic version, since someone further changed it. Diego (talk) 13:05, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Majority, in fact, had not good arguments. The main issue concerning my section was a WP:WEIGHT issue based on the fact the section was relying on primary sources. This caused the original five paragraphs and six primary section to be reduced by Amatulic version (which almost all were fine except for eladynnus and petertheforth). Then peterthefourt managed to force in the eladynnus extreme version which is basically nothing, without addressing to my questions (blatanty ignored) and acting that consensus was already reached starting edit warring. They initially started to harass me about claiming i was ip hopping and then they just resorted to another, more peaceful, way to bypass my stance. Again, i have to be fine with it, but please do not try to justify this kind of behavior. If i managed to get more people by "my side" the section would be the 3-rows paragraph that you reverted today. Have a good day. Meelanasah (talk) 13:13, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

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New York (state)

Hello Diego. You may have noticed me weighing in to the New York move debate, and I have a more general interest in fixing bad wikilinks. I'm interested in your suggestion of New York (state) as a link target.

Firstly, please let me check that I've understood the problem: we're trying to fix careless links to [[New York]] where the editor hasn't realised that the term is ambiguous. But first we need to distinguish those bad links from the many good links where the editor has deliberately linked to the state. To do this, we need to mark the state links as good, perhaps by diverting them to a different target such as New York (state). Have I got that bit right?

If so, can we do this with the articles remaining at their current titles? Or would well-meaning editors just undo the work (because bypassing a redirect is generally a good thing), requiring New York (state) to be an article rather than just a redirect?

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Introduction article tagging

Is there a reason that you're using the category directly? The category documentation page says to use the {{introduction}} template instead. --Izno (talk) 12:31, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't really read the category instructions so didn't notice the template. I only realized that it was nearly empty, with only one article included (although the related Category:Articles with separate introductions is more populated). As I'm using the WP:HOTCAT category tool, it is much faster to add the category directly so that they appear in the category page. Do you think using the template is still needed? Those instructions date back to 2011, and the category seemed abandoned. If so, I will complete the fix later today. Diego Moya 12:39, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
We have a tendency to use templates rather than categories directly when the need is for a maintenance category, as this one seems to be. I think I would agree that the {{introduction}} template should probably be deprecated as a "hatnote" template, but it should probably be the case that it's used at the bottom of the page as a "maintenance" template. Maybe we should TFD it and see what other people think? --Izno (talk) 12:47, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Yes, let's do that. Diego (talk) 13:08, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Now that I notice, the articles where I've added the category do have the {{introduction}} template at the top, but they didn't appear at the category. Maybe the problem is that the template broke at some point? Diego (talk) 13:11, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
I'll look into it later. A brief review looks fine to me, so it might be the {{main other}} template being problematic. --Izno (talk) 13:19, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Apparently didn't look close-enough. The Template:Main other invocation was incorrect. The category should start populating as a result. --Izno (talk) 20:10, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

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I am seeking independent and neutral viewpoints on the article ThoughtAudio, which is being considered for deletion. If you have a few minutes to review it, I would appreciate your opinion on the decision to retain and improve, or to delete it. I fear that ThoughtAudio may have been targeted by the same editor that made a failed attempt to delete the wikiquote article Michael Scott Gallegos on the grounds "Not sufficiently notable." The majority of my work has been as the wikiquote editor ELApro. I have been a long time editor for Wikipedia, but have not created many articles here. I would much appreciate your advice and/or contributions to this decision. ELApro (talk) 16:34, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

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Editing News #1—2017

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can review your changes visually?

 
When you are finished editing the page, type your edit summary and then choose "Review your changes".

In visual mode, you will see additions, removals, new links, and formatting highlighted. Other changes, such as changing the size of an image, are described in notes on the side.

 

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The wikitext diff is the same diff tool that is used in the wikitext editors and in the page history.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has spent most of their time supporting the 2017 wikitext editor mode which is available inside the visual editor as a Beta Feature, and adding the new visual diff tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, supporting the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving the visual diff tool.

Recent changes

A new wikitext editing mode is available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices. The 2017 wikitext editor has the same toolbar as the visual editor and can use the citoid service and other modern tools. Go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures to enable the ⧼Visualeditor-preference-newwikitexteditor-label⧽.

A new visual diff tool is available in VisualEditor's visual mode. You can toggle between wikitext and visual diffs. More features will be added to this later. In the future, this tool may be integrated into other MediaWiki components. [253]

The team have added multi-column support for lists of footnotes. The <references /> block can automatically display long lists of references in columns on wide screens. This makes footnotes easier to read. You can request multi-column support for your wiki. [254]

Other changes:

  • You can now use your web browser's function to switch typing direction in the new wikitext mode. This is particularly helpful for RTL language users like Urdu or Hebrew who have to write JavaScript or CSS. You can use Command+Shift+X or Control+Shift+X to trigger this. [255]
  • The way to switch between the visual editing mode and the wikitext editing mode is now consistent. There is a drop-down menu that shows the two options. This is now the same in desktop and mobile web editing, and inside things that embed editing, such as Flow. [256]
  • The Categories item has been moved to the top of the Page options menu (from clicking on the   icon) for quicker access. [257] There is also now a "Templates used on this page" feature there. [258]
  • You can now create <chem> tags (sometimes used as <ce>) for chemical formulas inside the visual editor. [259]
  • Tables can be set as collapsed or un-collapsed. [260]
  • The Special character menu now includes characters for Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics and angle quotation marks (‹› and ⟨⟩) . The team thanks the volunteer developer, Tpt. [261]
  • A bug caused some section edit conflicts to blank the rest of the page. This has been fixed. The team are sorry for the disruption. [262]
  • There is a new keyboard shortcut for citations: Control+Shift+K on a PC, or Command+Shift+K on a Mac. It is based on the keyboard shortcut for making links, which is Control+K on a PC or Command+K on a Mac. [263]

Future changes

  • The VisualEditor team is working with the Community Tech team on a syntax highlighting tool. It will highlight matching pairs of <ref> tags and other types of wikitext syntax. You will be able to turn it on and off. It will first become available in VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode, maybe late in 2017. [264]
  • The kind of button used to Show preview, Show changes, and finish an edit will change in all WMF-supported wikitext editors. The new buttons will use OOjs UI. The buttons will be larger, brighter, and easier to read. The labels will remain the same. You can test the new button by editing a page and adding &ooui=1 to the end of the URL, like this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox?action=edit&ooui=1 The old appearance will no longer be possible, even with local CSS changes. [265]
  • The outdated 2006 wikitext editor will be removed later this year. It is used by approximately 0.03% of active editors. See a list of editing tools on mediawiki.org if you are uncertain which one you use. [266]

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Ways to improve José Antonio Ramírez López

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I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. this article needs expand and more sources to meet WP:GNG and WP:ACADEMIC

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NAC info

I'm not complaining, I'm just offering info. Per {{NAC}} documentation it supposed to be used on XFD closes. RFCs are expected to be closed by any uninvolved editor. (Except IPs.) Labeling it as non-admin is not needed.

In rare cases I have used NAC on regular closes where I felt unusual transparency was appropriate. I have no objection to your adding it to the recent close.[317] Alsee (talk) 11:45, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

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"Worthless"

Quick question: I have no idea what you mean by "tagging it worthless", and I'm pretty Wikipedia-policy savvy. That's the main reason I made the changes. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:34, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


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Your feedback-request-service listing

I was cleaning up the feedback-request-service list a bit, and I noticed you are (sort of) listed in four sections. Your listing in Policies&Guidelines is working, but I think your listings in Maths, Media, and Unsorted are broken. They are set to username "Diego Moya/Recommendations", which the bot apparently rejects as a non-existent or inactive user.

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Bullshit. What you did was canvas, by inviting the most biased group possible to participate without inviting the rest of the community, which I EXPLICITLY asked you NOT to do, and which you should have known already not to do. You've forced me to add the discussion to {{centralized discussion}} before it was ready, to have any hope of a meaningful outcome, but it will probably just be an abortive mess, which I suppose accomplishes your goal. You knew what you were doing was wrong, and you did it anyway. I was originally somewhat sympathetic to your position, but this act has erased all respect I may have had for you as an editor. At least have the decency to not try to defend this.

Pinging @SMcCandlish in case he has anything to add. —swpbT go beyond 13:19, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

I don't think it matters. The thing has been train-wrecked over trivia at this point. Please don't get into personalized hostility over it. If you think the discussion might still produce something useable, just advertise it at WP:VPPOL, which will attract broader input.  — SMcCandlish ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ʌ<  13:24, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
I apologize. I had pinged user DJSasso when I copied the comment from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports, so I thought that I could as well inform all users in that project to the existence of a discussion where their project was being analized with respect to policy. By the time I created the link back to Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not, I remembered "didn't someone say something about not mentioning the actions discussed at the policy page?" - only then I made the connection that this probably should require hiding the existence of the original discussion, not merely having separate discussions.
In my discharge I'll say that notifications in neutral wording to involved Wikiprojects are rarely considered Canvassing, since people with all positions in the inclusionist/deletionist debate may participate in them (i.e. nothing prevents someone who values a strong WP:RAWDATA interpretation to participate in the project and request deletion of these statistics articles).
Had it been a straw poll or formal RfC I would have posted the notice to all mentioned projects and the Village Pump simultaneously; now I see the value that could have been extracted by the projects explaining their criteria for these articles outside an adversarial context - but it is too late. I still think a direct invitation at these projects to explain their criteria at the WP:NOT talk page may prove useful, in addition to the centralized discussion request. Diego (talk) 16:17, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

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Your edits here appear to have duplicated sections. Was that your intent? Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 11:32, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

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Birdo

Ah I see what's going on there with the links at the bottom you've re-inserted. e.g. the Portugese one goes to the section Birdo etc. Iggy (talk) 17:03, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes, those are WP:INTERWIKI links. Most of them have been replaced by Wikidata, but they still come handy when the structure of pages is different at different languages. Diego (talk) 21:08, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

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